Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html en-gb 30 Wed 26 Nov 2014 21:49:36 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html This is a colleague announcement http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=99#comment840 801. At 8:39pm on 23 Jan 2011, Redundant Rod wrote:"...I have never voted Labour - perhaps the singlemost thing I am really proud of in my life..."++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Rod, most people who are proud choose it to be about something they have done, rather than not done.I'm sorry if you're redundant but I hope that you didn't list all the things you'd not done at work, if your ex-employer asked you what it was, of which you were most proud in that regard. Tue 25 Jan 2011 11:59:15 GMT+1 In the land of grey and pink http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=99#comment839 As our chancellor follows his new career as a weather forecaster, I am now looking forward to him being treated in a similar way as Mr Johnson, as soon as he resigns or is pushed Tue 25 Jan 2011 10:55:16 GMT+1 One in a million http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=99#comment838 My reaction to the shadow cabinet? I'd probably tell them to own up to all the rubbish they inflicted on us when they were in government, ask them to stop sniping and actually be positive and contribute constructively to getting us out of the mess. Ed Balls! (no comment) I still wouldn't vote for them mind; neither would most of England (is that why we didn't get an English parliament when wales, NI and Scotland did?) Tue 25 Jan 2011 10:34:09 GMT+1 steve http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=99#comment837 After the latest disastrous economic figures it is evident that Ed Balls is unique in actually having a strategy for growth rather than a strategy of cuts with blind hope that growth might happen. Tue 25 Jan 2011 10:32:08 GMT+1 In the land of grey and pink http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=99#comment836 As we plunge headlong and blindfolded onto a double dip recession under the guidance of the “we are all in it together” duo.Ed Balls is going to have a great opportunity to show just how misguided this government is. Tue 25 Jan 2011 10:12:51 GMT+1 Alan Baker http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=99#comment835 • 823. At 1:16pm on 24 Jan 2011, scottieboy56 wrote: Reshuffle the lot of them - right out of the door. Labour is an outdated and unwanted relic. They will never be a fit party to govern this country, all they do is ruin the economy and cause endless problems with their pointless whining. Theirs is the politics of envy and class hatred. Just be rid of them.Well said, but it will never happen until we get an English Parliament in which the Scots have no say and no MPs, so the answer is simple get rid of the Scottish vote and the labour party will cease to be a credible force in England. Tue 25 Jan 2011 09:41:18 GMT+1 Fracking Tories http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=99#comment834 OK children that's enough mucking about on HYS for tonight, how many times do I have to tell you - it's time for bed - you've got school tomorrow.SJ have you finished reading Animal Farm yet, you need to complete it before your exam next week, I'm not having the "special" discussion with your teacher again.VV have you been listening to that Bill again, he's a bad influence on you ever since he discovered his imaginary friend voted Labour at the last election! Tue 25 Jan 2011 08:30:47 GMT+1 MellorSJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=99#comment833 This post has been Removed Tue 25 Jan 2011 02:52:41 GMT+1 vexed voter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=98#comment832 I cant help but visualise Ed Balls as one of the pigs in Animal Farm. Gives a almost plausible reasoning but you cannot quite trust him. Very similar to a 2nd hand car salesman or a Labour MP. Ooooooooooops he's already is one. Tue 25 Jan 2011 01:20:58 GMT+1 vexed voter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=98#comment831 Yawn. Labour will be in the shadows for a few years to come so any reshuffling will not be of any consequence to the electorate.It just affects the Career Labour MPs who feel hard done by because they have not got a safe seat to further their career and waste tax payer money. Tue 25 Jan 2011 00:59:55 GMT+1 Bill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=98#comment830 phill wrote:#797 Well Bill with the way the Coalition are messing up the country by the time the next election comes around they could put a chimp up against Cameron and the chimp would win, the man is a complete incompetent as is his chancellor and it's quite amusing watching them as they have clearly got no idea of what they are doing.It's only been eight months and the coalition have gone back on every pledge they made before the election, this from the same politicians that called for a fresh transparent start to regain the trust in politics. Going back on every promise you make is not the best way of gaining trust.People have now been reminded what you get when you vote Tory, long dole queues the rich thriving the others thrown on the scrap heap. The end of the NHS and there will be a massive increase in crime just like the last time they were in power. Already one of the sleeping giants within the Tory party David Davis has said they are completely out of touch with normal people.As for the Libdums they have proved to be what most people already knew about them full of meaningless promises they couldn't deliver, they are finished many will think twice before waisting a vote on them again.Yep the way the coalition are going all that Labour have to do is sit back and watch them destroy the country and try to come up with a way of rebuilding it like they had to last time. --------------------------------------------------------------------What people don't need reminding about is that every time Labour gets thrown out there's a mess left for the incoming government. Don't take my word take that of the outgoing Labour minister who said the cupboard's bare- we've run out of money!! Choice, even for Labour incompetants, don't you think? Mon 24 Jan 2011 21:58:12 GMT+1 MellorSJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=98#comment829 phill writes ....Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! [gasp] Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Mon 24 Jan 2011 19:43:31 GMT+1 phill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=98#comment828 #797 Well Bill with the way the Coalition are messing up the country by the time the next election comes around they could put a chimp up against Cameron and the chimp would win, the man is a complete incompetent as is his chancellor and it's quite amusing watching them as they have clearly got no idea of what they are doing.It's only been eight months and the coalition have gone back on every pledge they made before the election, this from the same politicians that called for a fresh transparent start to regain the trust in politics. Going back on every promise you make is not the best way of gaining trust.People have now been reminded what you get when you vote Tory, long dole queues the rich thriving the others thrown on the scrap heap. The end of the NHS and there will be a massive increase in crime just like the last time they were in power. Already one of the sleeping giants within the Tory party David Davis has said they are completely out of touch with normal people.As for the Libdums they have proved to be what most people already knew about them full of meaningless promises they couldn't deliver, they are finished many will think twice before waisting a vote on them again.Yep the way the coalition are going all that Labour have to do is sit back and watch them destroy the country and try to come up with a way of rebuilding it like they had to last time. Mon 24 Jan 2011 18:36:37 GMT+1 Localist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=98#comment827 The last two roles Ed Balls has had (Education and Home Secretaries) he's succeeded Alan Johnson, so it was pretty certain he'd follow him in to this one! Only his EST job didn't follow Alan. Mon 24 Jan 2011 17:56:45 GMT+1 Fracking Tories http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=98#comment826 826. At 2:10pm on 24 Jan 2011, mofro wrote:#824. At 1:35pm on 24 Jan 2011, Paul wrote:I have read through all of the comments on this thread and one this is certain, there is some very erratic and heavily biased censoring being undertaken by the moderators.-----------------I quite agree, Paul.BTW moderators I wrote comment #398 on Friday of last week and it is still awaiting moderation.-----------------And still no discussion on the Andy Coulson resignation, very suspicious BBC, is someone intercepting the choice of HYS subject texts and altering them to suit their own agenda perhaps? Mon 24 Jan 2011 17:15:36 GMT+1 mofro http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=98#comment825 #824. At 1:35pm on 24 Jan 2011, Paul wrote:I have read through all of the comments on this thread and one this is certain, there is some very erratic and heavily biased censoring being undertaken by the moderators. -----------------I quite agree, Paul.BTW moderators I wrote comment #398 on Friday of last week and it is still awaiting moderation. Mon 24 Jan 2011 14:10:17 GMT+1 confusus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=97#comment824 Cost that, brothers and hubbies and wives.Nice to see no “nepotism” in NU-Lab.Perhaps looking out side last nights dinner guests, or your entire list of friends on Facebook, might help.This is supposed to be for the country not for cronyism. Mon 24 Jan 2011 13:50:05 GMT+1 Paul http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=97#comment823 I have read through all of the comments on this thread and one this is certain, there is some very erratic and heavily biased censoring being undertaken by the moderators. Mon 24 Jan 2011 13:35:27 GMT+1 scottieboy56 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=97#comment822 Reshuffle the lot of them - right out of the door. Labour is an outdated and unwanted relic. They will never be a fit party to govern this country, all they do is ruin the economy and cause endless problems with their pointless whining. Theirs is the politics of envy and class hatred. Just be rid of them. Mon 24 Jan 2011 13:16:14 GMT+1 Black_And_Proud http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=97#comment821 Egad! My eyes! My eyes! Mon 24 Jan 2011 13:01:04 GMT+1 Duckerama http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=97#comment820 QuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackers795. At 8:06pm on 23 Jan 2011, Bill wrote:I would give up if I were you because, it would appear, you are talking to yourself. Little wonder, with the name-dropping tosh you are trotting out. Most wouldn't know Professor Blanchflower from Adam.---------------------I use my bill to converse with the other ducks and they reply using their bill, so this is not the first instance of bill speaking to bill, but it is a great example of being hoisted on his own petard, Quack Quack!!Who's Adam BTW?QuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackQuackers Mon 24 Jan 2011 12:53:22 GMT+1 perkinwellbeck http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=97#comment819 leave mr coulson alone.he is a sweet working class lad from essex who worked is way up the greasy pole, he did not know what sort of people he was working for.that nasty mr murdoch fooled us all.andy,a sensitive hard working boy was taken in by the morals of an immoral immigrant who had no understanding of british fairplay,after all he is austrailian,he is a caring sort of guy who admired "dave" from afar,he is only intrested in helping the poor and decent people of england to have afair and decent life,you know,like"dave".i say give him a chance and bring him back.peace and love to all... Mon 24 Jan 2011 12:26:44 GMT+1 perkinwellbeck http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=97#comment818 update please Mon 24 Jan 2011 11:46:38 GMT+1 david http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=97#comment817 A quick trawl netted the following words used by posters to describe politicians:fatty mouth, bad rubbish, pantomime, dumb, complete idiot, idiots, circus, nauseating, incompetent, incompetents, bankrupt, gormless, fiddle, joker, lying, cheats, lying cheats.... And that was just on the first page.Assuming the posters who used these words regard themselves as better, why don't they all become politicians themselves? Mon 24 Jan 2011 11:22:58 GMT+1 LardiusMaximus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=97#comment816 So a guy who we all suspected knew nothing about economics has resigned and been replaced by one who has proved it?A shot to the foot I think. Mon 24 Jan 2011 10:46:46 GMT+1 Total Mass Retain http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=96#comment815 801. At 8:39pm on 23 Jan 2011, Redundant Rod wrote:I have never voted Labour - perhaps the singlemost thing I am really proud of in my life.So you have not achieved very much yourself then in your life? If the single most thing in your life that you are proud of is a negative and didn't take any effort on your part and for which you get no recognition from others, then you really can't have done very much with your life. Who do you blame for that? Mon 24 Jan 2011 10:37:11 GMT+1 wvpTV http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=96#comment814 Perhaps the most telling thing is Westminster as a whole still doesn't get it!That is the things we all need to do as a team to mend our sick country.Why is so hard for those at the top to figure out that if you starve a large section of society of a living wage, the economy eventually slows to a crawl.The deliberate policy of excessive credit wasn't a fix, it just delayed the inevitable and gave us a much bigger problem to deal with (near melt down).Alan Johnson in his own words told us he did not know the job of chancellor, his shadow appointment speaks volumes about government.Until Westminster gets a grip and realises and acts to share the rewards in society (that includes business) more fairly, it's a one way trip to a big slump.Is the greed motivator unstoppable? Mon 24 Jan 2011 10:09:12 GMT+1 zzgrark http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=96#comment813 If Labour wanted to give Osborne a hard time they should have put in Mrs Balls, not Mr. Yvette Cooper sounds at least as plausible as EdB to hear her speak, and is not so tainted with the baggage EdB lugs around.Although I think the Coalition will find a way to bring David Laws back into the Treasury team presently. This guy has been in the City at a high level and knows so how it works. Balls & Cooper have never been anything but policy wonks, aside from Balls' spell as an FT scribbler.Besides which, economists are known for being useless forecasters. Hardly any saw the credit crunch coming, and certainly not Balls (he might have told Gordon to cut down on the borrowing if he had).What you need as Chancellor is not an economist but an accountant. At least the books would be balanced. Mon 24 Jan 2011 09:34:32 GMT+1 Monogram http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=96#comment812 So they've promoted the Bobbie and Clyde of the Labour Party. What a lovely Early Christmas for the Coalition! Balls who along with McClown masterminded the biggest boom and bust term of any government in this country, Balls who as education secretary didn't know what day it was, and Balls who was so incemsed that they were out of power, backstabbed everyone in his party, thank you Ed Miliband, your bonus is gratefully received. Mon 24 Jan 2011 08:55:17 GMT+1 AndyC555 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=96#comment811 806 - "Interesting - having just read your enlightened point of view on the education curriculum debate I can see you probably believe that 'Society doesn't exist'."Referencing back to the line from Thatcher?Is this line better?"There is a living tapestry of men and women and people and the beauty of that tapestry and the quality of our lives will depend upon how much each of us is prepared to take responsibility for ourselves and each of us prepared to turn round and help by our own efforts those who are unfortunate."A living tapestry where we not only take responsibility for ourselves but are prepared to help others....Do you think that's a better line?Because it's what Thatcher said IMMEDIATELY after the 'no such thing as society' line in the interview concerned. She was saying 'society' is not some abstract thing we can rely on, it is made up of people with responsibilities to themselves and others around them.See the danger of taking things out of context? Mon 24 Jan 2011 08:49:58 GMT+1 AndyC555 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=96#comment810 "805. At 9:43pm on 23 Jan 2011, billyhano wrote:713. At 4:37pm on 22 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:710. At 4:31pm on 22 Jan 2011, popesicola wrote:Ed Balls has already been "forced" to changes his views on deficit reduction. Now where is my dictionary as I need to look up the word "hypocrite".--------------------------------------------------------------------Hypocrite? Is it a member of the Bullingdon Club who tells the rest of the country not to binge drinking and behave like a lout?"If you had a choice of 2 surgeons, one of whom you knew liked a few beers 20 years ago when he was at Uni and one who you remember getting drunk regularly last year and who denies there's anything wrong with getting drunk and that in any case it wasn't his fault, who would you rather performed an operation on you? Mon 24 Jan 2011 08:41:00 GMT+1 Magi Tatcher http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=96#comment809 805. At 9:43pm on 23 Jan 2011, billyhano wrote:713. At 4:37pm on 22 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:710. At 4:31pm on 22 Jan 2011, popesicola wrote:Ed Balls has already been "forced" to changes his views on deficit reduction. Now where is my dictionary as I need to look up the word "hypocrite".--------------------------------------------------------------------Hypocrite? Is it a member of the Bullingdon Club who tells the rest of the country not to binge drinking and behave like a lout?That works too. So we agree that all politicians are hypocrites. Mon 24 Jan 2011 00:11:41 GMT+1 Bill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=96#comment808 stevegrant wrote:It doesnt matter who is what in the Labour party but for gods sake get a grip because in front of you is the worst government we have ever had and its only just started,these evil politicians are starting to rip out the UK's heart and there are no boundries they will not cross.The so called cuts will destroy the very fabric of our society.Its ok for the rich boys and girls who have no concept of poverty but for the very people who are paying for the criminal bankers follies its like a country running out of options and living on borrowed time.This put upon section of society is at near breaking point and when it happens the rich better get in their planes and boats and go because we are talking serious disorder and I cant see anyone with a grudge taking prisoners.Ed M get it together NOW because if you and your crew havent got the stomach for a fight move over because the people are coming through. ----------------------------------------------------------------------Why should they take notice of you? Who do you represent other than yourself?"The people are coming through"- what is that in plain speak? Sun 23 Jan 2011 23:01:55 GMT+1 stevegrant http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=95#comment807 It doesnt matter who is what in the Labour party but for gods sake get a grip because in front of you is the worst government we have ever had and its only just started,these evil politicians are starting to rip out the UK's heart and there are no boundries they will not cross.The so called cuts will destroy the very fabric of our society.Its ok for the rich boys and girls who have no concept of poverty but for the very people who are paying for the criminal bankers follies its like a country running out of options and living on borrowed time.This put upon section of society is at near breaking point and when it happens the rich better get in their planes and boats and go because we are talking serious disorder and I cant see anyone with a grudge taking prisoners.Ed M get it together NOW because if you and your crew havent got the stomach for a fight move over because the people are coming through. Sun 23 Jan 2011 22:31:04 GMT+1 Bill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=95#comment806 These Labourites love living in the distant past, don't they? I prefer to talk about the last 13 years and how Labour ruined the economy. The last thing we need is the people who were responsible criticising the coalition's attempts at sorting out their mess. Sun 23 Jan 2011 22:14:43 GMT+1 shillo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=95#comment805 Redundant Rod wrote:I have never voted Labour - perhaps the singlemost thing I am really proud of in my life.======================================================.Interesting - having just read your enlightened point of view on the education curriculum debate I can see you probably believe that 'Society doesn't exist'.It's obviously Redundant Rod's world and noone and nothing else matters. Sun 23 Jan 2011 22:11:45 GMT+1 billyhano http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=95#comment804 713. At 4:37pm on 22 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:710. At 4:31pm on 22 Jan 2011, popesicola wrote:Ed Balls has already been "forced" to changes his views on deficit reduction. Now where is my dictionary as I need to look up the word "hypocrite". --------------------------------------------------------------------Hypocrite? Is it a member of the Bullingdon Club who tells the rest of the country not to binge drinking and behave like a lout? Sun 23 Jan 2011 21:43:23 GMT+1 billyhano http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=95#comment803 801. At 8:39pm on 23 Jan 2011, Redundant Rod wrote:"I have never voted Labour - perhaps the singlemost thing I am really proud of in my life."---------------------------------------------------------------------The proudest thing in your life! I think you need to get a life Rod. I have never voted Labour myself, but the day I start taking any political party seriously, is the day before I move into the care home. Sun 23 Jan 2011 21:33:44 GMT+1 Mike http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=95#comment802 As I said last time, and was censored. You can change around the order of a troupe of monkeys and still you end up with a troupe of monkeys! It matters very little the order of these monkeys, the fact that they still are monkeys doesnt alter the situation. :) Sun 23 Jan 2011 20:46:51 GMT+1 Bill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=95#comment801 Two Eds are better than one? I suppose that's a relief. Sun 23 Jan 2011 20:46:18 GMT+1 Robbie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=95#comment800 I have never voted Labour - perhaps the singlemost thing I am really proud of in my life. Sun 23 Jan 2011 20:39:49 GMT+1 Nick Vinehill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=95#comment799 GeofLiberty write: They're all nasty little socialists anyway so what does it matter'OMG. If he thinks this lot in 'New' Labour's shadow cabinet are socialist I dread to think what his definition of fascism is Sun 23 Jan 2011 20:35:14 GMT+1 Bill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=94#comment798 Post 795 was for Phil- not you MellorSJ. I wondered who the much-quoted professor was although he does seem to get quite a showing on the Beeb. As someone once said, you can always find an economist to contradict another one. That's why I'm suspicious when you see the same one so much. Sun 23 Jan 2011 20:32:46 GMT+1 RIGHTONTHERISE http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=94#comment797 Ed Miliband's first big big mistake - Balls has the Brown and Labour Banks debacle legacy all over his CV and he appears synthetic, unconvincing and lightweight on T.V.Should fit in well. Sun 23 Jan 2011 20:31:40 GMT+1 Bill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=94#comment796 phill wrote:#293 well the justification for the money spent is pretty simple as well as bailing out the banks and saving hundreds of thousands of people from losing their savings and homes into the bargain.The money was also spent over 13 years paying off the massive debts and rebuiding the shattered remains of a country left over from the previous Tory government.Training and employing 89.000 nurses, 44.000 doctors building new hospitals for them to practice in.Bringing waiting lists down and giving guarantees on waiting times investing heavily in cancer research especially around breast cancer which have seen fantastic improvements in outcomes leading to the independent Kings fund stating that "the NHS dlivered the second best value for money health service in the world" (all of which is investment now being taken away by this coalition in their rush to privatise our NHS.)17.000 more police than 1997 alongside 16.000 PCSOs all of which helped produce the lowest crime figures on record (Now we are faced with prisoners being let out in their thousands prisons being closed and Police are actually being told to avoid arresting where possible as long as the perpetrator is willing to apologise, fine deterrent?.)We now have our armed forces at the weakest they have been in centuries and are faced with the ridiculous position where we have aircraft carriers with no planes to put on them, basically turning them into big ferries.I have just given a few examples of where the money was spent in the years of the Labour government but have never once been given an answer as to where did all the money that the Tory government raised when they sold off all of our state owned industries go?The Tories sold everything off run our NHS and schools down to the ground and let crime double on their watch and what did we have to show for it other than the massive debts and broken society and country they left behind. ---------------------------------------------------------------------And their only thanks, from the great British public,was to get more than 2.1 million less votes than the Tories. If it weren't for the skewed voting system the Tories would have had an overall majority.Not to worry because that is being rectified by the Parliamentary Boundaries Bill currently going through. The Labour Lordships won't get away with their fillibustering for much longer!! Sun 23 Jan 2011 20:21:14 GMT+1 Bill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=94#comment795 MellorSJ wrote:You mean, Dartmouth/Sterling/writes for the New Statesman David Blanchflower?Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! [gasp] Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! ===============================================================Is he related to Danny Blanchflower the footballer? Sun 23 Jan 2011 20:12:26 GMT+1 Bill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=94#comment794 I would give up if I were you because, it would appear, you are talking to yourself. Little wonder, with the name-dropping tosh you are trotting out. Most wouldn't know Professor Blanchflower from Adam. Sun 23 Jan 2011 20:06:59 GMT+1 MellorSJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=94#comment793 phill writes: "David Blanchflower"David Blanchflower? David Blanchflower!?! DAVID BLANCHFLOWER?!?!?!?!??You mean, Dartmouth/Sterling/writes for the New Statesman David Blanchflower?Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! [gasp] Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! ha ha ha! Sun 23 Jan 2011 20:00:02 GMT+1 phill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=94#comment792 #293 well the justification for the money spent is pretty simple as well as bailing out the banks and saving hundreds of thousands of people from losing their savings and homes into the bargain.The money was also spent over 13 years paying off the massive debts and rebuiding the shattered remains of a country left over from the previous Tory government.Training and employing 89.000 nurses, 44.000 doctors building new hospitals for them to practice in.Bringing waiting lists down and giving guarantees on waiting times investing heavily in cancer research especially around breast cancer which have seen fantastic improvements in outcomes leading to the independent Kings fund stating that "the NHS dlivered the second best value for money health service in the world" (all of which is investment now being taken away by this coalition in their rush to privatise our NHS.)17.000 more police than 1997 alongside 16.000 PCSOs all of which helped produce the lowest crime figures on record (Now we are faced with prisoners being let out in their thousands prisons being closed and Police are actually being told to avoid arresting where possible as long as the perpetrator is willing to apologise, fine deterrent?.)We now have our armed forces at the weakest they have been in centuries and are faced with the ridiculous position where we have aircraft carriers with no planes to put on them, basically turning them into big ferries.I have just given a few examples of where the money was spent in the years of the Labour government but have never once been given an answer as to where did all the money that the Tory government raised when they sold off all of our state owned industries go?The Tories sold everything off run our NHS and schools down to the ground and let crime double on their watch and what did we have to show for it other than the massive debts and broken society and country they left behind. Sun 23 Jan 2011 19:42:17 GMT+1 phill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=94#comment791 #227 You're right Byrne did leave that stupid and irresponsible letter but apparently not an unusual thing for outgoing members of the treasury to do as some sort of ridiculous joke, the fact is that we are no where near in as bad a mess as this coalition would have people believe.Instead of picking a small part of my comment I would like to know the answer to the rest of the comment which was this coalition have managed to find enough money to bail Ireland out, they have found enough money to increase our payments to Europe by around 3% when Cameron said he was going to freeze our payments and they have managed to find at least £1.4 billion just as a start to push through the privatisation of the NHS. How could this be possible if we had no money left?As economics professor David Blanchflower stated in an article today "The UK economy is slowing. Unemployment is up and inflation is rising,house prices falling and trade figures worsening. The recent retail sales figures were bad. All before the public spending cuts and VAT increase take effect. Business and consumer confidence collapsed from the moment this misguided coalition was formed".I'm certainly no expert on economics and that's for sure and in the measures that Osbourne has taken to date he has proved that he isn't either. I would like to think though that as a professor of economics David Blanchflower may have an idea about the subject Ed Balls also unlike Alan Johnson knows this subject like the back of his hand and will tear Osbourne to pieces and show him up to be the complete novice he is. Sun 23 Jan 2011 19:10:58 GMT+1 caretakers http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=93#comment790 The only thing Balls is good at is bullying basically. He learnt it from Brown. Milliband has made a big mistake. Balls and Cooper are far more interested in what politics can do for them than in what they can do for Britain. Sun 23 Jan 2011 18:42:25 GMT+1 ProfPhoenix http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=93#comment789 633. At 09:31am on 22 Jan 2011, Dancin Pagan The Mad Kiltie wrote:This is no longer the story of the week, it ceased to be as soon as Andy Coulsons resignation was announced. Seems like someone in the BBC is after the vacancy left by Andy Coulson.I find it amusing when right wing posters on HYS accuse the BBC of left wing bias, I've never really thought that was the case I've always thought the BBC fairly balanced.But recently I've began to wonder, what were the topics of the meetings between the BBC and the Government shortly after the coalition took power. Was a deal done to protect the license fee?The Coulson resignation is the top story with the highest political fallout & implications for the future of democracy and the privacy of UK citizens. It also has important links into the Murdoch bid for BSkyB and the independence of the Government in all of this.So why hasn't the BBC allowed a HYS for this, as soon as the Alan Johnson story broke we had a HYS although the Tony Blair HYS was probably already planned.This all seems mighty suspicious BBC, avoidance of discussion of the top story of the month, not exactly being a top news channel on top of the top stories of the day is it?-------------------------------------------------------Puzzled? I suggest you start by reading Peter Sissons in yesterday's Mail. Yes I know the Mail is beneath the Eton educated contributors to HYS, but the guy had a bit of experience with the news. Sun 23 Jan 2011 18:35:44 GMT+1 Magi Tatcher http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=93#comment788 788. At 5:57pm on 23 Jan 2011, shillo wrote:Magi Tatcher wrote:425. At 1:31pm on 21 Jan 2011, shillo wrote:Magi Tatcher wrote:174. At 9:31pm on 20 Jan 2011, sixpackerL wrote:Greetings to all supporters of the current slash and burn coalition.Latest YouGov/Sun results 19th Jan CON 37%, LAB 42%, LD 9%The Conservatives have just announced a comprehensive re-organisation of the NHS and Labour can only muster a 5 point lead. Gadzooks, Labour must have upset a lot of people the last time they were in government!========================================================As opposed to Cameron who took a 20% poll lead in to the election campaign and still couldn't win out right.Absolutely correct and that is why we now have a Coalition government. Your point is?================================================I would think the point is obvious. The majority if the population didn't fall for Slick Dave. He should have romped home but was found out.It is a pity that mathematically the LibDems didn't have a choice of parties to broker with.It was POWER with the tories or a tiny majority within a rainbow coalition.The end result is the same though isn't it. Sun 23 Jan 2011 18:07:55 GMT+1 shillo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=93#comment787 Magi Tatcher wrote:425. At 1:31pm on 21 Jan 2011, shillo wrote:Magi Tatcher wrote:174. At 9:31pm on 20 Jan 2011, sixpackerL wrote:Greetings to all supporters of the current slash and burn coalition.Latest YouGov/Sun results 19th Jan CON 37%, LAB 42%, LD 9%The Conservatives have just announced a comprehensive re-organisation of the NHS and Labour can only muster a 5 point lead. Gadzooks, Labour must have upset a lot of people the last time they were in government!========================================================As opposed to Cameron who took a 20% poll lead in to the election campaign and still couldn't win out right.Absolutely correct and that is why we now have a Coalition government. Your point is?================================================I would think the point is obvious. The majority if the population didn't fall for Slick Dave. He should have romped home but was found out. It is a pity that mathematically the LibDems didn't have a choice of parties to broker with.It was POWER with the tories or a tiny majority within a rainbow coalition. Sun 23 Jan 2011 17:57:58 GMT+1 billyhano http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=93#comment786 Who is this Gordon Brown who was advised by the two Ed's?It cannot be the ex-PM. He never listened to anyone. Apparently. Sun 23 Jan 2011 17:34:52 GMT+1 wickedlymale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=93#comment785 Who? is my main reaction. How a party which was in power so recently can be so faceless is astonishing. It is a sign of Ed's niavity that he has employed the massively ambitious Balls twins in such high profile positions. Sun 23 Jan 2011 17:26:34 GMT+1 Billythefirst http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=93#comment784 782. At 1:24pm on 23 Jan 2011, steve wrote:All the nasty, vicious, inaccurate, remarks saying Johnson left because he wasn't up to the job should be removed.Give the guy a break to sort out His personal life.---------------------------------------------------------------------------Echo that Steve : Let's reserve the nasty stuff for someone like Murdoch's Tory Puppet Coulson...now that is a nasty piece of work Sun 23 Jan 2011 16:58:15 GMT+1 Michael Lloyd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=93#comment783 "What is your reaction to Labour's shadow cabinet?"A gesture made famous by one Winston Churchill - well, almost! Sun 23 Jan 2011 14:55:06 GMT+1 Idont Believeit http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=92#comment782 At 10:58am on 23 Jan 2011, GeoffLiberty wrote:Thet're all nasty little socialists anyway, so does it really matter?----------------------------------------------------------------Not at all. Nasty, little Conservatives and nasty, little LibDemss will do just as well when it comes to messing things up, I suppose. Sun 23 Jan 2011 14:05:14 GMT+1 steve http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=92#comment781 All the nasty, vicious, inaccurate, remarks saying Johnson left because he wasn't up to the job should be removed.Give the guy a break to sort out His personal life. Sun 23 Jan 2011 13:24:41 GMT+1 lordbrecon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=92#comment780 The country needs someone fully focussed on the issues as chancellor.I think that Ed will definately be that man. Alan Johnson was a great politician sad that he has his problems at home. Ed Balls has worked well with Ed Milliband in the shadow cabinet I see no reason why he wont continue to do so. Sun 23 Jan 2011 13:11:34 GMT+1 perkinwellbeck http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=92#comment779 those who say that ed is not a credible chancellor.Mmm,are you saying that foggy osbourne is?nah, you cannot be suggesting that for a second.on the point of credibilty, are you,in all honesty offering the three amigo's campo,cleggy and foggy osbourne,as a credible task force to lead our country,is it not any wonder the bankers are not going to play ball over bonuses or loans to business when they see osbourne stood (yes and he will be standing in front of them like a schoolboy asking for pocket money)before them.he is not ecxactly a persona who fills you with dread,his performance at oxbridge was more because of the ownership of money and not the talent to understand the managment of it.Mmm,when we talk of credibility,be aware of what you wish for you might get it????? Sun 23 Jan 2011 12:25:04 GMT+1 perkinwellbeck http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=92#comment778 where are the updates again! employ new staff,this lot are not up yo it!!!!!! Sun 23 Jan 2011 12:04:25 GMT+1 Paul http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=92#comment777 3. At 5:53pm on 20 Jan 2011, Dorfkcots wrote:He was PUSHED...No doubt about it.YOU ARE 100% RIGHT ABOUT THAT! Sun 23 Jan 2011 11:28:20 GMT+1 GeoffLiberty http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=92#comment776 Thet're all nasty little socialists anyway, so does it really matter? Sun 23 Jan 2011 10:58:08 GMT+1 doilookthatsilly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=92#comment775 When I play Pontoon It often happens that I "twist" once too often and go "Bust" -it looks as if Mr. Milliband is going down the same route ! Sun 23 Jan 2011 10:30:49 GMT+1 wiserthanyou http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=92#comment774 Starting with Miliband, putting aside knowing who he and David Cameron are. If they came to your door selling goods which one would be the most convincing, certainly not Miliband as he just comes across as a charcater who plays games with other peoples choices or decisions. As for the shadow cabinet reshuffle, won't make the blindest bit of difference as the vast majority of them come across again as characters without their own agenda, just playing with words about the governments decisions. I never have been able to take labour seriously and even less reason to do so now. Sun 23 Jan 2011 10:01:55 GMT+1 paulmerhaba http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=91#comment773 746. At 8:31pm on 22 Jan 2011, hypocracyrules wrote:Regarding the costs of the Olympics.The Treasury and the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) are discussing a price of £9bn - up from an initial figure of £2.35bn.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6391075.stmDoes that surprise anyone, when the woman (Culture secretary) in charge of the budget, doesn't even know how many personal mortgages she has.Unbelievable.-------------------------------------------------------------------There is another loan of £40 million from local council to West Ham United if their bid for the stadium is successfull.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12242831 Sun 23 Jan 2011 10:00:03 GMT+1 Nick Vinehill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=91#comment772 All this hype and nonsense over personalities in the Labour shadow cabinet is just another exercise in how the corporate media and the economic establishment are taming the Labour Opposition for when it has to take over from the Tories again. Balls is just as right-wing and pro-market as Brown, Blair, Osborne and Cameron! Sun 23 Jan 2011 09:54:47 GMT+1 W Fletcher http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=91#comment771 What do you think will be the impact of the reshuffle on Ed Miliband's shadow cabinet?........errrrrrrrrr my cat will eat fewer treats? Otherwise zilch, naff all, not a lot, ****** all......let's face it Ball-up & co are PERSONALLY responsible for the mess the UK is. They sat like there like fat toads watching the banks play fast & loose & their matey boys in the FSA aided & abetted them! So for Balls-up & Millipede to come along riding a white charger, and promise they'll save us all (again?) stinks of rank hypocrisy! Balls-up has as much financial acumen as his chum Capt. Darling, the ex solicitor -- funny how NewLieMore try & foist individuals from failed careers on us! I think a certain dwarf Austrian tried that - using a failed chicken farmer & postman! Sun 23 Jan 2011 08:34:48 GMT+1 Trevor http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=91#comment770 With two balls (Mr & Mrs)Ed M has a lot to crow about, but since Ed B is still in denial about the deficit, he has little to offer. Sun 23 Jan 2011 08:00:26 GMT+1 Dave666 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=91#comment769 Oh joy another self centred MP. Sun 23 Jan 2011 05:28:08 GMT+1 Andy Kadir-Buxton http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=91#comment768 As an ex- New Labour Party Member I feel that the duty of the Cabinet should be for the poor. Build more council houses and bring in Betty Boothroyd to run the humanitarian side of Socialism. Love and Peace Man Sun 23 Jan 2011 03:45:52 GMT+1 MellorSJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=91#comment767 hypocracyrules writes: "I know many that started with nothing and have built their businesses up to a point were they have arrived at the 50% tax threshold, trust me, these people despise this tax rate more than the ultra rich."In my experience this is very true.The typical entrepreneur (if there is such a thing) works more than full time to meet the needs of his customers and clients. THEN he works another full-time job working for the government--filling in forms, paying taxes, and meeting various environmental/social/health/general bs requirements.Then, if the entrepreneur survives all this, he is expected to hand over better than 50% of his income to the government! Sun 23 Jan 2011 03:31:30 GMT+1 gee4444 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=91#comment766 743. At 8:04pm on 22 Jan 2011, hypocracyrules wrote:The UK public deserve everything they get from Politicians of all colours.I believe we live in a country were people only become interested in politics & policies when it could affect them. The majority don't even know when they've been affected until after a period of time.And I don't want to see Coulson replaced at No.10 because I'm sick of the spin, I'm sick of Politicians never answering a direct question and I'm sick of the UK electorate basically not giving a flying unless they are directly affected.As far as Alan Johnson is concerned, at least he appeared human and not some machine. He was never shadow chancellor material and I think he knew that, but at least he had the moral values to step down. I wish him well.I'm also sick of the media with their biased opinions, what happened to real jounalism. I've had a couple of drinks now and I'm looking forward to having a few more. Don't be surprised if you see my comments being removed forthwith, when you do, just imagine that I've really lost the plot and the profanity is too disturbing for the mods to post.------------------------------------Good points. Especially the last paragraph :) Sun 23 Jan 2011 01:39:16 GMT+1 gee4444 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=90#comment765 764. At 00:50am on 23 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:762. At 00:43am on 23 Jan 2011, gee4444 wrote:744. At 8:08pm on 22 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:736. At 7:12pm on 22 Jan 2011, gee4444 wrote:733. At 6:58pm on 22 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:If that is your interpretation of what I have said in my conversation with Common Mortal Man then so be it.Did you say this?:"Unfortunately the outcome of this strike appears to be that the staffing levels on long haul flights have been reduced anyway and a number of the cabin staff have lost their cheap flight concessions. Hardly a great example of the union looking after it's members is it?"If you did then, yes, that's my view.So you dispute the facts then. Well, that is your choice.------------------------------Thanks You are very welcome. I'm surprised you haven't ventured onto the "Should high street banks be broken up?" thread as I know you have a soft spot for our financial institutions.------------------------------I couldn't resist, I've been :) Sun 23 Jan 2011 01:27:11 GMT+1 Bradfordbelle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=90#comment764 I am still so disgusted with Labour's performance during the Brown years, that I have not a clue as to who is doing what, with what! It will take a very long time before they will be trusted again! Sun 23 Jan 2011 00:57:38 GMT+1 Magi Tatcher http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=90#comment763 762. At 00:43am on 23 Jan 2011, gee4444 wrote:744. At 8:08pm on 22 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:736. At 7:12pm on 22 Jan 2011, gee4444 wrote:733. At 6:58pm on 22 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:If that is your interpretation of what I have said in my conversation with Common Mortal Man then so be it.Did you say this?:"Unfortunately the outcome of this strike appears to be that the staffing levels on long haul flights have been reduced anyway and a number of the cabin staff have lost their cheap flight concessions. Hardly a great example of the union looking after it's members is it?"If you did then, yes, that's my view.So you dispute the facts then. Well, that is your choice.------------------------------Thanks You are very welcome. I'm surprised you haven't ventured onto the "Should high street banks be broken up?" thread as I know you have a soft spot for our financial institutions. Sun 23 Jan 2011 00:50:59 GMT+1 moreram http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=90#comment762 This post has been Removed Sun 23 Jan 2011 00:48:49 GMT+1 gee4444 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=90#comment761 744. At 8:08pm on 22 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:736. At 7:12pm on 22 Jan 2011, gee4444 wrote:733. At 6:58pm on 22 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:If that is your interpretation of what I have said in my conversation with Common Mortal Man then so be it.Did you say this?:"Unfortunately the outcome of this strike appears to be that the staffing levels on long haul flights have been reduced anyway and a number of the cabin staff have lost their cheap flight concessions. Hardly a great example of the union looking after it's members is it?"If you did then, yes, that's my view.So you dispute the facts then. Well, that is your choice.------------------------------Thanks Sun 23 Jan 2011 00:43:08 GMT+1 gee4444 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=90#comment760 737. At 7:23pm on 22 Jan 2011, John_Bull wrote:734. At 7:01pm on 22 Jan 2011, gee4444 wrote:So we should discard all the knowledge gained by our forefathers and simply accept this society because it's what we've got regardless of it's failures? That doesn't sound like very good reasoning to me, in fact, thats one of the craziest ideas I've ever heard. On that basis why don't we abandon democracy because this was devised by the ancient Greeks!This current system is how capatalism has been manipulated by our ruling elites to maximise it's benefits to them and to the detriment of us (the majority). If something is wrong then it needs to be corrected. -----------------Feisty lady!Gee, you're just raging against the machine again! There is absolutely zero chance of you achieving the change that you seek.Where does this anti-establishment antipathy come from?And, I must point out, that all ideas are subject to modification. Without that, Science would still be Natural Philosophy and the Earth would still be at the centre of Aristotle’s universe. Plus, I think you’ll find that Greek democracy was somewhat different to our own.------------------------------- Mademoiselle Bull, Unfortunately your estimation of change is probably a realistic one, but I live in hope. My anti-establishment antipathy, (your choice of phrase, a bit of a double negative by the way, I'd prefer moral re-adjustment), comes from existing within and tolerating an obviously disfunctional social system, where ignorance is bliss and greed is the norm. Modification of any system is both natural and desirable. But I prefer positive modifications rather than abusive and corruptive ones, which is what has happened with the current capatalist system. I'd argue that our democratic system, whilst not perfect, has changed for the better. Sun 23 Jan 2011 00:35:58 GMT+1 hypocracyrules http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=90#comment759 756. At 10:36pm on 22 Jan 2011, Common Mortal Man wrote:· 755. At 10:26pm on 22 Jan 2011, MellorSJ wrote: CMM writes: "Happy ever after"Further evidence--if any were needed--that the lefties will never be happy until we are all as impoverished, financially and in spirit, as they are.Ah well.Good on yer, grumpy! Oi! Oi! Oi! ################ Just glad to be rid of the Parasites and that includes you+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++You need to be careful what you wish for CMM, whether you like it or not, the high earners in this country do pay a hell of a lot of tax.I know many that started with nothing and have built their businesses up to a point were they have arrived at the 50% tax threshold, trust me, these people despise this tax rate more than the ultra rich. Sun 23 Jan 2011 00:15:14 GMT+1 hypocracyrules http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=90#comment758 This post has been Removed Sun 23 Jan 2011 00:00:13 GMT+1 Camerwrong http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=90#comment757 I dont know why he has resigned and why is the pc being investegated?here in ordinary world we have to continue throgh things like this and the person who is caught covorting with your wife dosent get dragged in any office let alone investigated.MR Johnson please just get a devorce like the rest of the country stop making a big issue of it,grow up. Sat 22 Jan 2011 23:47:39 GMT+1 Z1A900 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=89#comment756 Very happy that Ed Balls is Shadow Chancellor, George Osborne will take him apart ! Sat 22 Jan 2011 23:35:19 GMT+1 In the land of grey and pink http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=89#comment755 · 755. At 10:26pm on 22 Jan 2011, MellorSJ wrote: CMM writes: "Happy ever after"Further evidence--if any were needed--that the lefties will never be happy until we are all as impoverished, financially and in spirit, as they are.Ah well.Good on yer, grumpy! Oi! Oi! Oi! ################ Just glad to be rid of the Parasites and that includes you Sat 22 Jan 2011 22:36:13 GMT+1 MellorSJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=89#comment754 CMM writes: "Happy ever after"Further evidence--if any were needed--that the lefties will never be happy until we are all as impoverished, financially and in spirit, as they are.Ah well.Good on yer, grumpy! Oi! Oi! Oi! Sat 22 Jan 2011 22:26:33 GMT+1 KotDivuar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=89#comment753 Bank news, Politics bla-bla-bla, people-are we really interested in this rubbish? Sat 22 Jan 2011 22:25:22 GMT+1 kevin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=89#comment752 Most of the labour front bench were connected to blair and browm.Iraqi blood on their hands.A housing boom that caused a bust and banks unregulated.Maggie thatcher called some of her cabinet"wet".The whole labour front bench is more wet than a bad salad.I find the idea that a leader can`t pick his own cabinet as something out of the dark days of communism. Sat 22 Jan 2011 22:07:00 GMT+1 In the land of grey and pink http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=89#comment751 · 748. At 8:55pm on 22 Jan 2011, MellorSJ wrote: PaxWax wrote: "Someone who uses "I" so many times in so few words must be one of the self centred products of a previous Tory administration."And let's notice that this particular go-getter has left the UK, leaving the dross behind.What happens when this continues? The country is populated by taxeaters, and the only taxpayers left are the banks. Then you drive the bankers away and ...###################### Happy ever after Sat 22 Jan 2011 21:53:44 GMT+1 This is a colleague announcement http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=89#comment750 748. At 8:55pm on 22 Jan 2011, MellorSJ wrote:"...And let's notice that this particular go-getter has left the UK..."++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Don't worry. Plenty have come here to replace him, from Poland.The shadow cabinet doesn't seem to deter them. Sat 22 Jan 2011 21:35:56 GMT+1 W Fletcher http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=89#comment749 708. At 4:28pm on 22 Jan 2011, wind-blown wrote:Pity not to be able to say "Hello darling", again. Darling and Brown set up the conditions for the recovery from the global banking crisis and the global slump. We are still benefiting from what they did with some growth still happening. Unfortunately the scale of the recovery has had to be revised down under this government's mishandling. Bring Darling back please to add some real authority to the shadow cabinet....I presume you mean Capt Darling? With General "Brown" Mellchett? Sat 22 Jan 2011 21:32:33 GMT+1 RON HUTCH http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=88#comment748 Could some tell me if most of the media live on anoter planet from us ordinary folk.BALLS is supposed to be some sort of financial wizard.As they kept on telling us during BROWNS reign of bent figures moving the goal post and funny money period.The BBC and most of the rest of the leftie media hailed him and BALLS manic actions as sheer genious.As facts show they did not have a clue.We who are left to pay of their stupidity are ask to believe that his bag carrier.The destroyer of our pensions will sort it out.Along with the most incompetent out of touch useless media in the world.Is it any wonder the state this country is in. Sat 22 Jan 2011 21:18:04 GMT+1 MellorSJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=88#comment747 PaxWax wrote: "Someone who uses "I" so many times in so few words must be one of the self centred products of a previous Tory administration."And let's notice that this particular go-getter has left the UK, leaving the dross behind.What happens when this continues? The country is populated by taxeaters, and the only taxpayers left are the banks. Then you drive the bankers away and ... Sat 22 Jan 2011 20:55:37 GMT+1 MellorSJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=88#comment746 grumpy wrote: "I bid you a fond farewell."Good luck, grumpy!And the weather is better too! Sat 22 Jan 2011 20:37:20 GMT+1 hypocracyrules http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=88#comment745 Regarding the costs of the Olympics.The Treasury and the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) are discussing a price of £9bn - up from an initial figure of £2.35bn.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6391075.stmDoes that surprise anyone, when the woman (Culture secretary) in charge of the budget, doesn't even know how many personal mortgages she has.Unbelievable. Sat 22 Jan 2011 20:31:52 GMT+1 Davesaid http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=88#comment744 Now that Ed Balls & his wife are back in power in the Labour party we can look forward to at least 10 years of Tory rule. This couple along with a few other shadow ministers were everything that brought this country to its financial knees. Ed Milliband has dug his own grave. Sat 22 Jan 2011 20:22:17 GMT+1 Magi Tatcher http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=88#comment743 736. At 7:12pm on 22 Jan 2011, gee4444 wrote:733. At 6:58pm on 22 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:If that is your interpretation of what I have said in my conversation with Common Mortal Man then so be it.Did you say this?:"Unfortunately the outcome of this strike appears to be that the staffing levels on long haul flights have been reduced anyway and a number of the cabin staff have lost their cheap flight concessions. Hardly a great example of the union looking after it's members is it?"If you did then, yes, that's my view.So you dispute the facts then. Well, that is your choice. Sat 22 Jan 2011 20:08:26 GMT+1 hypocracyrules http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=88#comment742 The UK public deserve everything they get from Politicians of all colours.I believe we live in a country were people only become interested in politics & policies when it could affect them. The majority don't even know when they've been affected until after a period of time.And I don't want to see Coulson replaced at No.10 because I'm sick of the spin, I'm sick of Politicians never answering a direct question and I'm sick of the UK electorate basically not giving a flying unless they are directly affected.As far as Alan Johnson is concerned, at least he appeared human and not some machine. He was never shadow chancellor material and I think he knew that, but at least he had the moral values to step down. I wish him well.I'm also sick of the media with their biased opinions, what happened to real jounalism. I've had a couple of drinks now and I'm looking forward to having a few more. Don't be surprised if you see my comments being removed forthwith, when you do, just imagine that I've really lost the plot and the profanity is too disturbing for the mods to post. Sat 22 Jan 2011 20:04:20 GMT+1 PaxWax http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/what_is_you_reaction_to_alan_j.html?page=88#comment741 705. At 4:00pm on 22 Jan 2011, grumpy wrote:I'm moving to Australia, away from all the rubbish piled upon me by the politicians (of any shade) in this declining country.In Australia I will be judged by my own efforts and rewarded by hard work.In this country hard work means the left will try to grab my money for the feckless, and the right will try to grab my money for themselves.I will watch the decline of the UK from afar, with a mixture of sadness and dispair at the decline of a once great country.However I will also enjoy the fruits of my own efforts without having to support the reckless,feckless and bone idle who's sole aim in life is to live off others.I bid you a fond farewell.////////////////////////////Someone who uses "I" so many times in so few words must be one of the self centred products of a previous Tory administration. Sat 22 Jan 2011 19:54:53 GMT+1