Comments for en-gb 30 Sun 25 Jan 2015 18:24:10 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at lifeofriley I felt totally depressed by the tone of most of the contributors to this programme, from the Panel and the floor. The extremes of Left and Right represented by Mehdi Hasdan and Melanie Phillips demonstrated to me how bankrupt are the 'old' tribal politics I had hoped we were leaving behind. I thought both were in danger of dissolving in their own bile. Michael Heseltine's smug smirk when the point was made that the Tories had conceded very little and would swallow the Lib-Dems whole did him little credit. Lord Falconer looked tired and bored by the whole proceedings, Simon Hughes did his best to defend the Lib-Con coalition but in the face of such general hostility seemed unconvincing. Only the applause of the apparent 'silent majority' in the audience when, rarely, more balanced, if qualified, support was expressed, served to reassure me slightly. The cynicism from most quarters and the failure even at this early stage, to suspend judgment on the undoubtedly courageous politicians who forged this coalition, I found completely unacceptable.As a floating voter who found making up my mind very difficult I went into the polling booth on May 6th feeling that some form of coalition would be preferable if only our creaking system could produce it, and I am sure many felt the same. In the largely partisan audience, few views reflected this. Fri 14 May 2010 10:39:57 GMT+1 Reg I get the feeling that last nights QT was the opportunity for the old guard and the slightly disenfranchised to mourn the loss of 'What was never going to be'.the far left and far right of the political spectrum were waving off their tub thumping scare tactic politics, the labour voters were mourning their 'wasted chances to be the party they wanted to be' and lib-dem supporters that voted labour to keep the conservatives out are sad/angry that their poor attempts to manipulate the voting outcome didn't work and only have themselves to blame for their 'wasted vote'The rest of us got most of what we wanted, you don't see to many Conservatives whining about wasting a vote on the lib-dems in lib-dem/labour marginals.The rest of us got something a lot closer to what we wanted. I wanted the liberal-democrats out of my safe LD constituency and Conservatives in, I didn't get it but I do have the Bonuses of No more Gordon Brown and Labour pushing their social engineering policies on us, eroding our civil liberties, giving our money away without thinking about the consequences, raiding pension funds, the list goes on.I also got a Conservative Prime Minister with a cross party cabinet in some key positions which will give some good checks and balances to the whole process, something we've never had in my lifetime.Despite how the disenfranchised are now, they ultimately have hope, not hope that new labour will sweep to power to once again push their pseudo-socialist agenda, but hope that they will, in the next election with PR, be represented in cabinet no matter who 'wins'. Fri 14 May 2010 10:38:08 GMT+1 john Towards the end of the show Simon Hughes looked sick, I think it is suddenly dawning on the Lib Dems that they have signaled the end of the party they will dissapear into oblivion after 5 years - that is if last that long. Very craft move by Labour, they will live to fight another day. Fri 14 May 2010 10:19:56 GMT+1 SAB55 I really can't believe how bitter and irrelevant columnist Melanie Phillips is, would she have the same opinion if Labour had agreed a deal, somehow I think not! and Mehdi Hasan is simply a ranting, boring, idiot, playing up to the audience, a complete show off who adds no value to this debate at all showing total immaturity! Betrayed that is simply pathetic and short sighted, the public voted, we are now dealing with the result of this. This is not a betrayal, are you voting for a colour or what is right for the country via policy ? I think these people really need to grow up, call themselves journalists!!This coalition will be tough, but I think it will work and it is an opportunity for politicians to put their money where their mouths are and "work together" as so many quote and lead by example, in reference to policy's frankly as the stones said "you can't always get what you want" but frankly give them a break, the deal is done, compromise is inevitable, let's support them as they try to get us out of the large hole Labour have left us in!.... and to some Journalists, stop taking the same old negative approach, you should also start doing something for the public and start reporting on the positives instead of point scoring! I have to make this comment as a Woman you should only get a job/position because you have earn't it not because we need to please stats on minority's! Fri 14 May 2010 10:09:24 GMT+1 dismalswamp No more Melanie Phillips nor Medhi 'completely' Hatstand. Lazy BBC - recurrent negative idiot and jumped up ignorant no-mark. Fri 14 May 2010 10:03:08 GMT+1 dismalswamp I know the BBC like a good spread of opinion but please no more Melanie Phillips, she has nothing to say and is just a waste of guest time and time again.As for Medhi Hasan, well I have never known a more obnoxious guest. Pure arrogance, the old saying "there is none so blind as those who cannot see" comes to mind. His views are not and will never be representative of the british people so he can come down off of that pedestal, atleast Michael Hessletine eventually ran out of patience and knocked him off it. The BBC are becoming a parody of themselves - wide spread of views does not mean left wing and or ethnic nutcases week after week. Put Hasan on with Griffin and let them both slug it out if you must (to be honest both are equally as reviling as each other). Fri 14 May 2010 09:57:35 GMT+1 JBM Most of Question Time's discussion centred on the motives of the politicians involved in the resulting coalition. Melanie Phillips' claim that it was all concerned with the desire for "power" was perhaps the most extreme, expressed in the possibility of her puking if she heard the "national interest" phrase repeated once again within her hearing. Little evidence,however, was forthcoming to substantiate her "power" claim. Perhaps the only comment is "time will tell" . Fri 14 May 2010 09:56:34 GMT+1 Prakash Kachhala I was a little disappointed by the show yesterday. Yes there has really only been one big single issue this week - the coalition, but pretty much every question and comment was about each audience member feeling betrayed and how each party has got the bad end of the deal. Did anyone actually discuss policies/economy or challenges the country faces?As far as I can see it, I vote for an MP/party in my constituency. So does everyone else. I don't demand taht party governs because I understand if others disagree, we have to compromise. The public have been indecisive and have given us a hung parliament, and so a deal has been done - not ideal, but what would others have done? Minority government and repeat election end of year?And to Lib Dem voters - I think you should be happy, even if it only 10-20% of your policies being implemented, at least that is something - they're no use if your not in government and you have a good deal. Fri 14 May 2010 09:43:47 GMT+1 Marcus JayDarko - I completely agree with what you have written. I don't think I have ever seen Question Time with such a pair of bitter panelists as Mehdi Hasam & Melanie Phillips. BBC - please do not invite them back, they have nothing constructive to say from either side of the argument!As for the question if Lib Dem voters have been betrayed...for goodness sake, don't Lib Dem voters want PR??? Are we not seeing PR in action where parties with different opinions have to come together. Didn't Lib Dem voters want to see a new politics of being responsible and talking to each other? Well that's exactly what we have got...time people started losing this ridiculous tribal attitude.Its time people started to realise that there isn't a majority view in this country and to start respecting the decision made by the British public. Fri 14 May 2010 09:22:11 GMT+1 Fluvia Sabrina I seldom watch QuestionTime - I find it too irritating - and when I do I turn it off before the end. Yesterday was no exception to that, but it was different. Last night I found that the politicians were behaving relatively sanely but was put off by the histrionic diatribes by the members of the Press. This has been an unfortunate feature of this election campaign - unelected, rude, arrogant newspaper proprietors and their staff have sought to tell the rest of us how to think and be. Maybe it's time to curtail the media - certainly time to call a halt to the practice of journalists interviewing journalists to be mistaken for news.I voted LibDem and am content with the Coalition - indeed I have even thought of joining the party. I recognise that it is a compromise for me to vote for any political party - none of them accurately reflects my views. I also recognise that a coalition is important for the country - indeed it may become the normal way of doing parliamentary business in the future. In that process the political parties will have to make the sort of compromises that I did in voting for one of them. I can see that there would be irritation amongst the small number of people whose only agreement with the LibDems was with the policies hat have been subjected to compromise, but that is democracy - being ruled by journalists is not. Fri 14 May 2010 09:20:33 GMT+1 cjp1979 I enjoyed the lively exchanges between Michael Heseltine/Simon Hughes and Mehdi Hasan and felt that Hughes and Heseltine clearly won the argument. Interestingly, this was an almost complete role reversal of the usual Question Time. The journalists were shown up as being embarrassingly out of touch and the politicians were the voices of reason. Melanie Philips and Mehdi Hasan frankly embarrassed themselves with their bitterly entrenched views. They need to take the blinkers off and realise that the political landscape has shifted. Fri 14 May 2010 09:15:25 GMT+1 Dan_Dover What is QT coming to when the three politicians make infinitely more sense than the two non-politicians? Not just any politicians but a Tory dinosaur, a LibDem windbag, and an unelected New labour bureaucrat.We've known Melanie Phillips can't construct a logical argument and refuses to listen to any counter-argument for ages: she's an embarrassment to reason. Now the beeb have found a diametrically opposed left-wing ranter. Great.Is this balance? On FOX news maybe, but the BBC should be beyond this kind of populist nonsense. Fri 14 May 2010 08:54:51 GMT+1 emerald333 I'm fed up with QT (and other media) looking for the negative all the time. The panelists they select are often deliberately chosen to cause as much aggression and controversy as possible (there were three in this particular programme). Why not use panelists who will conduct a useful and informative debate? Why use these tactics to brainwash the gullible British public? What's in it for the BBC? Certainly not more viewers – I switched off in disgust and won't be watching QT again.Personally, I wish the new Con/LibDem coalition well, and hope it succeeds in unravelling the terrible mess Labour have created in this country in so many ways (relevant to the economy, education, immigration, their social engineering to make themselves more popular, morality, etc). People need to be encouraged to work together, not to be aggressive adversaries. Fri 14 May 2010 08:49:16 GMT+1 JohnH 33. At 10:59pm on 13 May 2010, RWinLeeds wrote:Are Simon Hughes and Michael Heseltine trying to convince us that it is the interest of the country? It isn't working!Both are happy, because both are in power!------------------------------------------------------------------------Agree completely. Heseltine keeps banging on about 'the national interest'. Well he should know. Margrot Thatcher stuffed him in the 'national interest' when he was Defence Secretary, so he quit.To paraprase the film 'the godfather' "do not deny that you are working together in your own interest and not in the national interest as it insults my intelligence" I feel insulted by this argument. Fri 14 May 2010 08:33:58 GMT+1 Bruce Wayne Firstly I should say as a Lib Dem voter I have concerns about a coalition with the Tories. However we had to go in with one party or another. I was disgusted with some on the panel last night who totally rubbished the coalition before it had started. I think it will be a case of looking at it 6 or 12 months and then commenting.I felt that Mehdi Hasam & Melanie Phillips were frankly absymal. They had nothing constructive to add to the debate and just went out of their way to be antagonistic. I personally felt that Medhi Hasam is just a rude arrogant bully, if you didn't agree with him you just got shouted down.He might reflect on the fact that there was little of or no chance of a coalition with Labour as the numbers didn't add up! In fact the Scots & Welsh Nat's would have held the country to ransome.The facts are simple 'We are where we are' everyone accepts it's not ideal but the country does need a government.However I certainly won't be watch Question Time again if either of these two are on again, a very poor choice of panellist. Fri 14 May 2010 08:27:35 GMT+1 JayDarko I'll never watch a Question Time again that includes Melanie Phillips and/or Mehdi Hasan on the panel.The producers may think that inviting them on stirs it up and provides entertainment (and perhaps it does for the clap-on-demand audience), but it completely undermines the integrity of the programme.I can just about handle Jon Gaunt, Richard Littlejohn and Kelvin MacKenzie, but this was something else entirely.Any valid points they made were lost in a constant stream of bile and venom. What a thoroughly bitter pair they are. Even Michael Heseltine seemed aghast at their performance!From someone hoping for a little insightful political dialogue, this was utterly depressing. Fri 14 May 2010 08:25:03 GMT+1 Reflectionseeker 218. At 11:31pm on 13 May 2010, fiasco wrote: "As for there being a problem with the Cabinet being made up of Oxbridge candidates, Seriously? We don't want the most intelligent people in charge?"The problem is that only a small minority of Oxford and Cambridge graduates have not benefited from the distinct advantages of inherited wealth. Oxbridge graduation is therefore much more a reflection of elitism than intelligence. Despite our attempts to widen elite university education, about 50 per cent of students at both universities come from a small number of independent or fee-paying schools. More than half the annual recruits to the higher civil service are graduates of these two universities.Therefore the new government simply continues our tradition of public administration as aristocratic, and not representative of the majority of the people.Unfortunately the myth that intelligence is something to which the wealthy are genetically predisposed has yet to be completely negated.Plenty of poor people qualify for "the most intelligent", but lack the resources to gain access to positions of influence and have their voices heard.It can even be argued that the experience of those who lack resources amounts to a greater intelligence than people who know of very little but the cosseted channels of academia and privilege. Fri 14 May 2010 08:16:18 GMT+1 David The reality is that given the result of the election, this coalition is the only realistic option. Times are hard, and if the steps necessary to resolve the situation are to be taken, they will be unpopular. As a nation and as individuals we have been paying ourselves too much and spending too much in a way which was clearly and inevitably unsustainable. We have got used to a standard of living we can not afford, but human nature is such that any attempts to rdress this will be extremely unpopular. Any attempt to introduce the necessary measures in the absence of a secure majority would have been unsuccessful, and not in the best interests of the country.The difficult move is in achieving these savings whilst protecting those in GENUINE need and caring for those who REALLY need it.We should be supporting this, irrespective of individual political views. Fri 14 May 2010 08:07:09 GMT+1 lightining 265. At 00:01am on 14 May 2010, Amanda Jane wrote:The Lib-Dims lose 5 seats, lose a million or so votes and yet somehow end up with the Deputy Prime Minister and 5 seats in the Cabinet....I call that Disproportionate Representation..!-------------------------------------------------------------------------A sad reflection of the state of the education system in this country under Labour that you cannot understand big figures. The Liberal Democrats actually gained votes but lost seats, a vivid representation of the unfairness of the current voting system. Fri 14 May 2010 08:01:15 GMT+1 Ally Gory Mehdi Hasan is, of course, entitled to his opinion , but his boorish delivery made him a less than constructive commentator on the current political scene.I was surprised Lord Heseltine represented the voice of reason and not at all that Simon Hughes didn't. This compromised government is only acceptable as a short-term solution to the fiscal problem, but it has no mandate for social policy. Someone has to take charge of cutting the cost of government and balancing the books, but not enough voters supported either Conservative or Liberal Democrat manifestos to give them any entitlement to implement their more contentious policies. We need basic, competent government and no self-indulgence to allow the deficit of trust in politics to be reduced. I remain sceptical Cameron and Clegg will be aware of that. The media must offer a more mature and objective assessment of policy and action too, so we, the paying public, may decide for ourselves how well the job is being done. Fri 14 May 2010 07:57:29 GMT+1 give-me-strenghth Amazing, perplexing !!!!!!!!People argue for PR, yet think a coallitiongovernment will never work.This must make them hypocrytes as you rarely get one without the other. I for one am getting sick of tribal rants and on the evidence of the last 3 months and last night labour supporters are the worst. Certainly they do a very good job of pushing a floating voter like myself in the opposite direction.I welcome the fact that the cabinet is filled with a diverse range of opinions, democracy is about debate, you need opposing opinions to achieve this. I feel there is a really good chance that good descisions can be made. What is wrong with compromises based onthe facts.I have to say also the idea of left and right co governing is appealing as maybe we will end up in the centre. Because we have had a party for the last 13 years whose rhetoric told us centre but whose crushing of civil liberty was way to the left.So cut the rant and bring on reasoned debate. Love him or hate Heseltine came over as having an exprienced wise old head. Fri 14 May 2010 07:47:03 GMT+1 John Wood I love the scots complaining they voted labour and got a 'westminster tory' government.a) They have their own government for many purposes andb) Many English voted conservative in 2005 only to get a 'scottish labour' government.What comes around, goes around.BTW - the Tories only got 4% less of the vote in scotland than the SNP! Fri 14 May 2010 07:35:37 GMT+1 rhisiart I have to say this was one of the worst Question Times I have seen in recent years. The audience certainly wasn't representative of the population at large, and seemed to be largely made up of radical students - and the panel wasn't much better. David Dimbleby, for whom I have the greatest respect, failed to control the rabid rantings of Mehdi Hasan, who obviously loves the sound of his own voice and virtually turned it into a one-man show. On the other political extreme, Melanie Phillips was equally rabid, though at least she kept her comments reasonably brief. Why does the BBC invite such cynics onto Question Time? I thought they were trying to broaden the panel by bringing in non-politicos, yet such balance was sadly lacking last night. At a time when the country is facing such a stark future, it is refreshing that politicians are actually trying to work together, rather than indulging in their usual partisan approach - and judging from the people I have talked to, across a wide spectrum of society, that seems to be the general feeling 'out there' (as opposed to whatever student campus the BBC recruited last night's audience.) Fri 14 May 2010 07:29:02 GMT+1 lightining 286. At 00:24am on 14 May 2010, PhilJ wrote:6. At 10:14pm on 13 May 2010, butti1 wrote:Because the Lib Dems came third in the election and are now in power, does this mean that if England come third in the world cup, they will still be considered the winners of the World Cup ??? This is a question from my thirteen year old daughter.Nice One - Did you know that Chelsea have also lost the premiership because the bottom five have agreed to share their points with each other.-------------------------------------------------------------------------No Phil, the correlation from the Premier League is that the 1st and 2nd Teams got the same number of points and the same goal difference etc. Rather than toss a coin, the 3rd team agreed to give the 1st team their points in return for a small share of the cup. Fri 14 May 2010 07:25:47 GMT+1 Ristac I thoroughly enjoyed last nights show. I am not one of those dedicated voters who follow a party blindly. I vote for the one who's manifesto I most agree with at the time of an election. I quite respect Lord Heseltine and I do listen to what he has to say but I thought both himself and Simon Hughes looked very uncomfortable with proceedings.We can all argue back and forth, who is right, who is wrong, who got the most seats, who got the most percentage votes but one thing that is a fact no matter how it is glossed over; Nick Clegg did what was right for himself and his party, please STOP saying your party did what it did for the right of the Country.Right for the country would have been a Conservative party in power with a minority government. Then when the Conservatives put forward a bill that required a vote from the other MPs the Liberal Democrats could have voted FOR if they thought it was right for the country and AGAINST if they thought it was wrong - simple as..Nick Clegg - You are a fake, you knew that without joining the Conservatives you would have been forced to stand down, you lost seats and you have sold the Liberal Democrats into oblivion for the sake of 5 years in the limelight.In 5 years I will vote either Conservative or Labour, I will NEVER consider the Liberal Democrats again. One other point... Our teenage children have shown an interest in politics for the first time during this election. I heard them speaking yesterday, "Why does the leader of the Lib Dems not come out and be honest and just say that he loved being in front of a TV debate, the power went to his head".It is not just the adults who see through Nick Clegg, it is the younger generation as well!! Fri 14 May 2010 07:25:45 GMT+1 pol Both Melanie Philips and Mehdi Hasan were a disgrace for proper debate last night. Attacking both Conservatives and LibDems for what they are supposed to do anyway, trying to form a government which represents and implements the view of the majority of the people. The program really is devalued by getting people on the panel who, although intelligent, think it is necessary to bully the whole discussion into a shouting match without sound arguments. It will be a very hard task for LibDems to make people understand that politics is not always black and white, and that compromise does not mean weakness. After all, at last 25 % of the voters are now for the first time in many many years represented in the government. Would that not be an enormous fact to enjoy instead of the ranting and raving of two soap box fanatics who do the public no service at all. Journalism at its worst, and hopefully the BBC will be more careful in selecting who will be on the panel, so we have some proper debate about this new and potentially very positive political situation. Fri 14 May 2010 07:24:37 GMT+1 LudwigSatie Anyone who tries to make sense of the situation we find ourselves in by blithely suggesting that 40/60/80% of people didn't vote for Tory/Labour/Lib Dem/coalition has a poor grasp of the mechanics of our democracy. Whatever people may give as the reason for giving their vote to a particular party is (almost) irrelevant: what counts is how we have all voted collectively, and only Heseltine seemed to grasp this fully.I didn't get what I voted for, but I did get one of the lesser evils I am prepared to contemplate. But what chance had I of getting what I wanted, where I vote LibDem in the safest Tory seat in the country.As for the editor of the New Statesman, if he really takes seriously what politicians say as they posture in an election campaign, he cannot be considered a serious political commentator. Fri 14 May 2010 07:21:58 GMT+1 The Ghosts of John Galt 22. At 10:54pm on 13 May 2010, robcan wrote://For a political editor, Mehdi Hasan seems hugely biased.//For a political editor, Mehdi Hasan, lacks a rational approach and quite frankly appeared to be deprived of any intellectual rigour! 27. At 10:57pm on 13 May 2010, zin wrote://heseltine blaming you the voter!//What the voter is witnessing their is the typical strategy of just another preacher of the Doctrine of Sacrifice! Blaming the victim as guilty is always the simplest method! Fri 14 May 2010 07:21:23 GMT+1 lightining It was very appropriate that Mehdi Hasan and Melanie Phillips were sat together on the panel. A pair of political dinosaurs. When I first switched on and heard Mehdi Hasan, I was wondering whether he was a member of Respect or the Socialist Workers Party. After then hearing Melanie Phillips views, I then came to the conclusion that they should form a Fascist dictatorship party as they clearly have in common that any view but their own is irrelevant. Please get real! After we voted for a balanced parliament, the options were: 1. Con-Lib coalition2. Lab-Lib coalition3. Minority Conservative government.(2) was a non-starter as Labour MPs would not support it.(3) would have given a weak right-wing Conservative government in hock to its Eurosceptics and nutters. It would have constantly been defeated and triggered another election which it would have won with an overall majority. (with the Liberal Democrats marginalised). While this was going on, the economy would have collapsed even further and the ordinary people would have suffered more than they will.(2) at least has the chance of stability. Additionally, it provides several chances of parliamentary reform as well as the abolition of ID cards, changes to the DNA database and abandonment of the third runway at Heathrow. Already it has shown itself to be more progressive than New Labour.The truth is, through this coalition, people like Melanie Phillips are marginalised and they do not like it. Fri 14 May 2010 07:12:27 GMT+1 Rene Descartes I thought Mehdi Hasan was quite irresponsible. His basic message was "I don't care about good governnace; I don't care about having a stable government at this time. The Tories should have been allowed to set up a minority governmnet, to become unpopular as fast as possible and then to call an election as soon as possible to get Labour re-elected." Never mind if the economy, Sterling and equity prices collapse whilst that's going on, so long as the Tories fail. He apparently does not want the LibDem/Con coalition to succeed.Charlie Falconer at least appeared to hope it will succeed but does not think it will. Fri 14 May 2010 06:52:03 GMT+1 Ax0l0tl 31. At 10:58pm on 13 May 2010, daviecooper1 wrote:A Melanie Phillips is an embarrassment - she has nothing useful or constructive to contribute. A sore leftie loser.-------------------------------------------------Crumbs, the only blogger who thinks Melanie Phillips is left wing. On this basis Cameron is a Marxist. Fri 14 May 2010 06:51:24 GMT+1 Ever_Hopeful_Again_2 Last night there was a lot of discontent over the outcome of the last election. But I’m surprised that nobody mentioned that our voting system, although appropriate in the days of just Whigs and Tories, can not cope with a parliament that now represents over 10 parties. Under a modern proportional scheme, the 3 main parties would have had similar number of seats and therefore any 2 could combine into a strong coalition – probably a Labour / Liberal in this case. What would ‘but it was our turn Melanie’ say then. This is now an excellent time to raise the level of political discussion to include much needed political reform, can we have some more enlightened panel members please. Fri 14 May 2010 06:39:59 GMT+1 Jane The journalist from the New Statesman reminded me of a recalcitrant teenager and the journalist from the Daily Mail reminded me of a grumpy old granny. If the result of the coalition is to marginalise these two extremes of the political spectrum, then I'm all for it. They were awful, please don't invite them back again, BBC. Fri 14 May 2010 01:50:14 GMT+1 peters 2 pence worth Notwithstanding the irritation of the New Statesman editor, 59.1% of the votes cast for the 649 seats have resulted in 55% of them being in the hands of the governing coalition. It seems pretty close to PR to me, and I have to admit to be fairly pleased with the result. I might not be at some time in the future, but then at least the responsiblity will be shared, and the buck will stop. Perhaps the editor of the New Statesman does not like democracy when it runs counter to his own philosophy. Fri 14 May 2010 01:14:35 GMT+1 Chris 305. At 01:23am on 14 May 2010, BartiDdu wrote:#265. Amanda Jane wrote:"The Lib-Dims lose 5 seats, lose a million or so votes and yet somehow end up with the Deputy Prime Minister and 5 seats in the Cabinet....I call that Disproportionate Representation..!"=============================================================Factual error there Amanda, Lib-Dem vote in fact increased by 842,524. Not a huge amount but a slight increase in percentage too (21%-23%). And the only reason that resulted in fewer seats is that the current FPTP electoral system disproportionate system.I get that the power they hold is disproportionate to the number of Lib-Dem MPs but all things considered 1st and 3rd joining with 2nd in opposition seems about right to me looking at what the numbers represent in terms of what voters wanted.BDdBecause of the oddities of FPTP the Tories have a disproportionate number of seats compared to their third of the votes. The extent of seats that went to Labour are even more out of step with the poll share. LibDem seats are below proportion. It seems to me that the disproportionate power to the LibDems,won through negotiation and playing of power games, goes some way to balancing the scewing effect of our system. What a shame the LibDems won't be able to use that power to correct the system though. Fri 14 May 2010 00:55:56 GMT+1 Gorgeous Nicko This coalition was my dream outcome for the election, though I hardly imagined it would come to pass. Had the polling slip allowed me to vote for it, I would have done so enthusiastically. I wanted an end to the cycle of relatively untrammeled government by representatives of one set of vested interests, followed by a lurch to an opposite extreme. This may not bring that pattern to an end but it gives something different a chance - the economic circumstances are daunting and we can only wait to see how well it all works (and wish it the luck it will undoubtedly need).I was struck by the hostility to recent developments apparently displayed in the audience reaction. Mehdi Hassan is entitled to his views but he expressed them intemperately and aggressively; his input detracted from the quality of the discussion. Melanie Phillips often seems to speak good sense - not so tonight, though I do not criticize her conduct. Lord Falconer has always been difficult to take seriously as a representative of Labour, or maybe Labour is difficult to take seriously insofar as it is run by white middle-class Oxbridge educated males of the Blair generation (like me) ... the historical constituency of the Labour party badly needs representing, but not by the Blairs and Falconers please.Simon Hughes seemed in difficulty tonight: I do not know how fully on board he himself is for the coalition, but it would have been good to see a more powerful spokesman for his position (maybe once they have brought the backlogs in their red boxes under better control) ... and Heseltine was, well, Heseltine - a safe(ish) pair or hands, so long there isn't a mace in the room!After a week like this, it was always going to be a challenge to put together a panel capable of doing justice to the momentous changes of the election and its aftermath. I felt QT only scored 4/10 this time out, against a more usual 8 or thereabouts. That said, tonight's issues and those underlying them are likely to be around for a while to come!! Fri 14 May 2010 00:55:33 GMT+1 snowmandyj Melanie Phillips and Mehdi Hassan confirmed my suspicions that the publications they represent are unlikely to offer me balanced informed views or have any belief that their readership might be able to think for themselves.If Mr Hassan believes he represents "progressive thinking" then he clearly has no sense of irony at all.Gratuitously rude, arrogant and aggressive and totally illiberal - Ms Phillips was slightly less aggressive, but hardly better in other respects.Surely you don't need to scrape down to the very dregs of the barrel for your panellists, BBC? Fri 14 May 2010 00:55:19 GMT+1 Reg This post has been Removed Fri 14 May 2010 00:51:20 GMT+1 Tony "303. At 01:11am on 14 May 2010, PattyR wrote:I wonder? Did any of those who feel 'betrayed' by Nick Clegg actually listen to him speak before they voted? He clearly stated on more than one occasion that, in the event of a hung Parliament, he would, if necessary, begin a dialogue with the party that had the highest number of seats. He also said in the PM debates that he would be in favour of co-operation between parties. He at least has kept his word. "________________________________________________________I voted Lib dem based on electoral reform and not making the £6bn cuts this year to try and avoid a double dip recession. I heard what the Lib Dems said on these issues.However actions speak louder than words and the Lib dems have caved, this isn't a coalition, it's a merger and you could tell by Simon Hughes face that he knows it, he scored well on getting rid of id cards, which the Lib Dems have long been against, but yes, the Lib Dems have betrayed people who voted for them whereas the Tories have reached sensible compromise regarding their policies. Fri 14 May 2010 00:46:48 GMT+1 Reg 194. At 11:26pm on 13 May 2010, Alan C wrote:The truth is that our economic situation is formed by three factors, the global credit issue, domestic debt and EU member states debt. All the panel have ignored the issue of EU and Greece and the proposed membership of Turkey. The UK government is little more than a branch office of the EU commission post Lisbon treaty which all parties failed to acknowledge.-----------------------------------------------------------I think you'll find that the Conservative clauses of no attempt to join the euro through this parliament and no more devolvement of power to brussels are the first steps to resolving some of these issues. Given that we are to have a referendum on PR it would be an ideal time to have the referendum on europe that the labour party promised us? It would save a lot of time and money merging the two. Fri 14 May 2010 00:38:52 GMT+1 Reg I think labour are making a mistake in thinking that the conservatives and liberal democrats will get the blame for any cuts and thus won't be re-elected, the easiest way for them to do this is to remind the country who made the mistakes that left us in the current state we're in.WE ALL KNOW THE CUTS ARE COMING AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ITS LABOUR POLICIES OVER THE LAST 13 YEARS THAT HAVE FAILED TO OVERTURN ANY MISTAKES BY THE PREVIOUS CONSERVATIVE ADMINISTRATION. In case labour didn't realise that is entirely why they were given the mandate to run the country for so long and they really failed to produce the goods on so many levels. Fri 14 May 2010 00:37:16 GMT+1 BartiDdu Pleasantly surprised, running through many of these comments, that although the impression from the programme was that much of the audience (or at least the louder contingent) were as cynical and pessimistic as Hasan and Phillips were (and for that reason I disagree with those who are saying they shouldn't have been there), on this forum there seems to be much more of an acceptance that the result was a consequence of our votes, there was not really much of a choice as to how to move forward and that there's nothing to lose by at least giving the coalition and its leaders a chance. Fri 14 May 2010 00:34:52 GMT+1 Reg 165. At 11:21pm on 13 May 2010, Robert Brown wrote:Of course there has been a betrayal by the Lib Dems, a betrayal of the worse kind. Nowhere in their left of centre manifesto does it mention supporting a right of centre party, nowhere in the election campaign did they say vote for us and we will ensure a Tory government.The Lib Dems sold their policies for individual prestige, 18 Junior Ministers and 5 Cabinet Ministers was the price of that betrayal.The problem now is the Lib Dems have no idea they have been stitched up by the Tories ridden roughshot with the 55% no confidence requiremnet.Does anybody believe that these nice Tories gave up 18 out of the 22 Junior Ministerial positions, risking the wrath of their backbenchers, just to sweeten the deal with Lib Dems.These 23 Ministerial position were created for one purpose only, this was a nunbers game, giving the Lib Dems this number means they all now handcuffed into collective resposibility, the now have to vote with the government on every single issue. If you add these 23 lib Dem Ministers to the 307 Tory seats then you have 330 guaranteed seats or 52% of the commons votes. This ensures that the Tories can never have the 55% adainst them in a no confidence vote as any Lib Dem Minister voting against would have to resignand give up their prestigeous position.Even if all the 32 Lib Dem backbenchers join with every other party and vote against the government the government with the Lib Dem Ministers will alawys win. WHAT A STITCH UP!-------------------------------------------------There has been no stitch up or betrayal, would you have screamed the same thing if it had turned out that the liberal-democrats had gone with labour?The fact is, Nick Clegg clearly stated that it would be wrong for gordon brown to stay on as prime minister in the result of them being the lower of the 2 larger parties votes, he also stated that he would offer the first opportunity to whoever gained the larger share of the votes, that could've been labour, it could've at that point been conservative, as it turned out it was the conservatives.This all happened before the election and was well reported on television/newspapers and the question was asked repeatedly, if as a liberal-democrat supporter you didn't understand what he was trying to say you really should've asked for clarity.Of course its ultimately a numbers game of sorts, the jobs are valid positions, we don't have a conservative heading up banking reform, so it will be Vince Cable overseeing that, something that GB as chancellor then PM couldn't quite deal with. So no accusations of Conservatives cosying up to the banks.We also have a lib-dem heading up climate change, again, another area where the conservatives can't be accused of cosying up to business friends, no chance of a hinduja brothers/ecclestone incident then?I believe part of Nick Cleggs role will be overseeing electoral reform, not bad then? being in charge of one of the major issues your party actively campaigns for.I guess it depends whether you are a glass half full or a glass half empty person as to whether you see it as 'locking in' or 'giving firm commitment' to collective responsibility, although, would you really want to form a cabinet that wasn't going to be responsible for its actions.There are also have a number of abstention clauses for the liberal-democrats, so they still get to voice their opinions without bringing down the government, although its academic at that point that if enough Conservative MPs turn up for a vote they will win. There is nothing clandestine in having it this way, they are a majority coalition afterall, now I'm not for one moment suggesting that the Conservatives and Liberal-Democrats should/will merge, just that David Cameron has done exactly what any single party leader with a majority would have done, give jobs to all parts of the spectrum within his party, the only difference here is that David Cameron has to consider both parties so a much broader spectrum to choose from.Lastly, not specifically to you Robert, Anyone that thinks the rainbow coalition would have been a better choice really needs to stop being naive, how would you have appeased the snp and plaid cymru? or the DUP for that matter, offered them money that we haven't got to spend? Even if you could have offered that it would be a very, very unstable government, if you don't think 2 parties can manage to talk to each other, try the 6 or so parties that labour would have had to try and contain(although PR points to that exact scenario happening anyway if not done correctly), with most of those having less than 1-2% of the popular vote, no wonder GB, err, I mean Mandy and Alistair, didn't go near that deal with a barge pole.Of course representation in parliament of the nationalist parties is an entirely different matter and one that really needs looking at, so despite not sitting at the big table this time around the nationalist parties might be slightly happier, the Conservative/Liberal-Democrats are to setup a commission to address 'The West Lothian Question' which seems to me to be a more progressive way to look at things rather than the old labour way of throwing money at scotland for small projects such as TV news stations and hoping that will be enough to placate them instead of either addressing the long known about transport link issue or looking at the whole picture. Fri 14 May 2010 00:25:35 GMT+1 BartiDdu #265. Amanda Jane wrote:"The Lib-Dims lose 5 seats, lose a million or so votes and yet somehow end up with the Deputy Prime Minister and 5 seats in the Cabinet....I call that Disproportionate Representation..!"=============================================================Factual error there Amanda, Lib-Dem vote in fact increased by 842,524. Not a huge amount but a slight increase in percentage too (21%-23%). And the only reason that resulted in fewer seats is that the current FPTP electoral system disproportionate system.I get that the power they hold is disproportionate to the number of Lib-Dem MPs but all things considered 1st and 3rd joining with 2nd in opposition seems about right to me looking at what the numbers represent in terms of what voters wanted.BDd Fri 14 May 2010 00:23:14 GMT+1 Chris Please do not give into the calls to limit the coalition to one panel member. It is worth it seeing Simon pig sick at having to say I agree with Michael. Now that's entertainment. Perhaps we can have a swingometer to show which MP has swung the furthest since the day before!! Fri 14 May 2010 00:16:33 GMT+1 PattyR I wonder? Did any of those who feel 'betrayed' by Nick Clegg actually listen to him speak before they voted? He clearly stated on more than one occasion that, in the event of a hung Parliament, he would, if necessary, begin a dialogue with the party that had the highest number of seats. He also said in the PM debates that he would be in favour of co-operation between parties. He at least has kept his word. Melanie Phillips, Mehdi Hasan and Lord Falconer all displayed the kind of immature playground behaviour we would all like to see disappear from politics. I have supported first the Liberals and then the LibDems for almost 40 years and I feel proud of this commitment to the coalition. Fri 14 May 2010 00:11:26 GMT+1 manchesterborn1941 Please no more of Mehdi Hasan on QT. He has to be the rudest, socialist bully I've seen on QT for a long time. He is a disgrace to his profession, if he can't put forward his views without behaving so badly, then his views don't deserve to be heard. I'm afraid that for the first time ever, I stopped watching the programme, because I couldn't stand him any more. If you have to have this man on the programme, please ask David Dimbleby to be much firmer and maintain some control over him.It was a pleasure to switch back for This Week and here Billy Bragg's interesting, well thought out comments. Can we have him back on QT please - and I have not previously been a fan of his. Fri 14 May 2010 00:06:35 GMT+1 Steve B Fact: The Conservatives won 2 million more votes than labour. If the situation were reversed, we are told that the Labour party would have had a comfortable majority of around 60 seats. This shows that the current electoral system is biased towards Labour.So, do we need to reform the voting system? Absolutely! It should, at least, be fair and unbiased.Fact: The Lib Dems were never going to win a majority, so, surely, the coalition between them and the Conservatives must be a far better result than any Lib Dem voter could have, realistically, hoped for.For anyone who voted tactically to try and block one of the other parties there is a valuable lesson to be learned; Have the courage of your convictions. Vote for who you want and don't play silly games. If you do play silly games, stop moaning about the result.Fact: Individuals have a tendency to vote from a purely personal perspective, judging everything from how it affects them, directly, rather than looking at things from a 'global' perspective.We need a government that looks at the situation, globally, and is prepared to deal with the very real problems we face as a nation. They need to be doing the right thing for the country, not the popular things that appeal to the majority of people. It sounds to me like this coalition is prepared to do that.Fact: Whilst no-one, specifically, voted for a coalition, the Conservative/Lib Dem coalition actually represents the votes af a significant majority of the population - effectively, we did vote for this.The news and media coverage, Question Time included, seems to be driven by the B.M.W's - the bitchers, moaners and wingers. Imagine what they would be saying if any other outcome had resulted? They'd have had even more reason to moan and we would have had far less chance of stability within the government.Let's stop being so negative. Let's stop looking for all the reasons why this can't work and look for all the great reasons why it can - and, probably, will.As for the journalists on this evening, between them they truly define what a B.M.W. is! Please don't invite them back. Fri 14 May 2010 00:05:18 GMT+1 manfredo I'm afraid I could only watch the first 10 minutes of the programme before I had to switch off in disgust. Thank heavens it's politicians that run the country and not journalists! At a time when we're actually taking the idea of working together for the common good seriously for the first time in far too long, the unapologetically aggressive and confrontational point-scoring squabbles of Melanie Phillips and Mehdi Hasan are of no interest at all to me. Well done to Michael Heseltine and Simon Hughes for keeping their composure in the face of such an ugly barrage of bile. Fri 14 May 2010 00:00:32 GMT+1 NJ72 To those LibDem voters wringing their hands, and Labour-supporting critics of the coalition: Were you actually listening to what Nick Clegg said during the election campaign? In the press, in interviews, during the TV debates?He openly said - all along - that in the event of a Hung Parliament, first dibs on forming a minority govt would go to the party which finished 1st in terms of votes/seats. I.e. the LibDems wouldn't get into bed with the 2nd party at that stage.But if the 1st party didn't want to try a minority govt., the LibDems would listen to them - including considering a formal coalition (he said this explicitly, many times). But that coalition would only be acceptable to the LibDems if the 1st party agreed to 4 dealbreaker points: on tax, on education, on a greener economy, on voting reform.The 1st party did agree to that, so the Coalition went ahead.Which part of that didn't you understand? Don't criticize the LibDems for the crime of doing precisely what they said they would do all along. Thu 13 May 2010 23:58:00 GMT+1 jim We should all vote for who we believe in. Labour, Tory, LibDem, Green, whoever, maybe even BNP (sigh).The government should reflect in its constitution and policy that broad church of opinion.Blair/Brown complained and campaigned againt "boom and bust" economics. What we have had, until now, is "boom and bust politics". "Winner takes all" but on only 40% of the vote. So 60% against.Not great really, is it? Maybe we should try to do better? Thu 13 May 2010 23:44:30 GMT+1 Pat from Norwich I thought Michael Hesaltine shone out as a voice of reason on this panel and didn't Simon Hughes put the guy from the new statesman in his place. Such attacks on what is a genuine attempt to govern with around 60% of the votes cast seem like whinging from Melanie Philips. Get over it Melanie!. The people have spoken and this is a brave attempt by this coalition to pull our country out of a situation not of their making. To those who say they feel betrayed by the Libs or indeed the Tories, just remember, they now share power and therefore decision making. This means that you did not waste your vote but now have representatives from your chosen party in Government. You may not get your own way on all the issues, but this alliance is the next best thing to achieving some of your parties pledges during the election campaign. As for having a go at those within this administration's background, it seems beneath contempt to refer to them as "Posh". It is also quite childish. What matters to us all is whether they have the skills to do what will be a difficult job. I for one wish them well and hope that the full term of 5 years proves to be a deserved outcome. Thu 13 May 2010 23:39:21 GMT+1 charles lim This is is the most balanced programme I have seen for weeks.Mehdi Hasan was quite fantastic infact all the panels were great!I will prefer a rainbow partnership or even bolder "party-less" parlaiment where MP vote for what they think and not along party whip.Poor scottish and welsh has been sadly left behind due to this this Conservative-Liberal pack. We definitely need a new way to elect our MP and also vote for issues though our new technology...not just begging for the referendum that our leader promise us! Thu 13 May 2010 23:36:44 GMT+1 Alex Mehdi Hasan was abrasive and rude and in my opinion ignorant. There is a way of being forceful yet respectful with your opinions which he is clearly yet to master. Thu 13 May 2010 23:34:05 GMT+1 U13667051 If that Mehdi fellow is ever invited back, he should be told to tone it down. His confrontational posture reminded me of chavs on the street squaring up to each other.Heseltine destroyed him, as did Huhne.Disappointed with Melanie this evening. I usually agree with her, but surely she could see that the options for the Conservatives weren't very attractive. Go it alone as a minority, or try and form a stable coalition, get through the economic difficulties and hopefully fight the 2015 election from a strong popular position with a stronger economy as an example of their success.A lot of people are confusing a merger with a coalition.This is a coalition whereby the Libs will be trying to influence government with their agenda, and the Conservatives will be trying to push theirs. They'll have to haggle. It has nothing to do with suddenly loving each other and all that media nonsense that the BBC is feeding us. Thu 13 May 2010 23:32:52 GMT+1 Jawed from Edgware Labour have just proven today that they are just bitter losers... It's quite embarrassing to watch especially since I have been a Labour supporter. Both Melanie Philips and Mehdi Hasan clearly showed that they haven't a constructive and sensible argument to put forward... Just negative and annoying opinions which have no basis.This ridiculous argument of the social background of the new leadership - it's just complete nonsense. Yes it would be nice to have a better mix of ministers - BUT, it would be even better to have competent & qualified individuals who want to help all types of people. Give them a chance to prove that going to Cambridge doesn't automatically make you inconsiderate and out of tune!I'm glad I voted Conservative this time - In sharp contrast Michael Heseltine came across as totally dignified and made complete sense in what he was saying. The government we have now is the best we could have given the result of the election. It's true that many policies I voted for have been lost in negotiation... but let's make the best out of what we have. I hope the public just gives this government a chance. It's almost as if people like Mehdi are wishing it to fail - but those who are forget that it's our country that will lose if it does. Thu 13 May 2010 23:30:04 GMT+1 Chris 270. At 00:08am on 14 May 2010, PhilJ wrote:Yet again it seems that the Question Time table is dominated by journalists. 3-3 with David Dimbleby constantly interupting every time Simon Hughes tried to answer a question. Why are the cynics in the BBC so determined to bring the Government down by lining panels with their own kind. If I hear one more grey haired journo tell me that Coalitions never worked in history!!! Get out of the past and give the future a chance. It seems that we've got more BBC cronies next week with Piers Morgan - journo turned presenter - whatever hapenned to panelists from the real world??~~~???~~~But didn't all the journos turn out for either Cameron or Clegg. Are you saying the Daily Mail is Socialist? The Sun may have been alleged to glow somewhere in the proximity of Tony Blair, but last time i looked Murdoch was as right wing as ever.It seems, more like dear Mr Boulton, the journos are more upset that the natural party of government is being polluted by 'sandel wearing dogooders' as they see the LibDems.Please have a little pity on the jounos, they do not know quite who to attack or how yet so they are temporarily turning on thier masters. Thu 13 May 2010 23:28:38 GMT+1 SparklingSilver The naked vitriolic resentment of the audience this evening, including the panellist Mehdi Hasan, in this post election London audience is of little surprise since the election results reflected a predominance of Labour voters in the capitol. However, since this is also the party claiming to want to stamp our bullying they did a very good job of being ‘hoisted with their own petard’. Lord Heseltine gave a very good response to who should replace Gordon Brown as leader of the Labour Party. I did not vote Labour because of its leader! I did not do so because I dislike what this party has done to the traditional way of life of my country over the past thirteen years. I applaud the coalition and I am pleased that David Cameron has had the wisdom to include much needed experience in the make up of his cabinet. Melanie Philips is right, the only criteria for appointing any one to a responsible post is merit. Their age, gender, religion or ethnicity is of no consequence whatsoever. Sparklingsilver Thu 13 May 2010 23:27:45 GMT+1 Tony From the look of Simon Hughes he needs to cross the floor for his own sanity, he was trying to defend the indefensible, the Lib Dems caved on the economy and he knows it. Thu 13 May 2010 23:25:29 GMT+1 harrietbarman 268. At 00:04am on 14 May 2010, AngryStudent wrote:whoa onevoicepolitics chill out i realise i made a mistake and believe me its labour all the way now. Lib Dems had some incredibly attractive policies especially for young first time voters like myself (especially with the everlooming fate of tuition fees) I know alot of younge poeple like myself who felt a vote for the lib dems would gain them enough support to gain more power in future years.__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Angry Student. You really do miss the point or live in a bubble handing out socialist worker. I graduated last year. Tuition Fees are a necessity. Many of my peers could definitely afford the fees and as long as they are means tested they will safe our unis from slipping into the lower leagues. I#d like to see your view if you realise the idelogy will only carry you so far. Practicalities have a horrible habit of getting in the way! Thu 13 May 2010 23:25:12 GMT+1 jowa Just wanted to say what a breath of fresh air Mehdi Hasan was on tonight’s Question Time. After weeks of disingenuous politicians telling us anything they think we want to hear to get our vote here is someone telling it like it is from the heart but with evidence to back it up. He certainly had Heseltine rattled and that is no mean achievement. Just think what Labour could achieve with him as Party leader! Thu 13 May 2010 23:25:02 GMT+1 jim Britain needs this coalition government right now, the politicians made constructive cases for the future of this country. M Hasan of the new statesman, who does he think he is? Another jumped up, self absorbed commentator with nothing to add. Please David, never again, i start shouting at the telly... Thu 13 May 2010 23:24:30 GMT+1 PhilJ 6. At 10:14pm on 13 May 2010, butti1 wrote:Because the Lib Dems came third in the election and are now in power, does this mean that if England come third in the world cup, they will still be considered the winners of the World Cup ??? This is a question from my thirteen year old daughter.Nice One - Did you know that Chelsea have also lost the premiership because the bottom five have agreed to share their points with each other. Thu 13 May 2010 23:24:26 GMT+1 StrangeP If I wanted to hear what the Daily Mail or New Statesman is moaning about - I'd buy their papers. Why do you keep putting their journalists on the panel? I don't think I'll bother watching the programme much more, it's becoming painfully irritating. The politicians at least try to explain themselves, I would prefer people on the panel who are capable of providing or at least try to provide answers however lame, to audience questions. Journalists don't answer questions or provide opinions or justify anything in this regard. You have dumbed the programme down to such an extent you should call it 'Tabloid Time' and air it on TV mid morning or maybe early afternoon and get an anonymous member of the audience dressed in a telly-tubby outfit to facilitate it - put it on at 3 or 4 in the morning and it would become cult viewing. Thu 13 May 2010 23:23:49 GMT+1 Amanda Jane I agree that Melanie Phillips was very good tonight. I also completely agree that Labour has lost its way. The Lib-Dims now have the historic opportunity to spend the next 5 years to be prepared to take on and slaughter Labour at the next election. Lib-Dims need to push Labour into permanent third place once and for all. It is all that they deserve! Thu 13 May 2010 23:23:09 GMT+1 satyarthi Why should the British people tolerate disproportionate representation any longer, when it is clearly not a truly democratic mirror of our diverse population. The Lib/Dems have discarded an historic opportunity to deliver proportional representation to a disenfranchised population, in exchange for a brief moment of power. Every Lib/Dem seat cost 119,788 votes (a Con servative seat only costs 34,989 votes) and Clegg betrayed their trust. Throw away the gold tie Deputy Clegg, cos your true colour looks yellow. This matter is not finished. Thu 13 May 2010 23:22:06 GMT+1 panchopablo The BBC is not biased?.That QT was on par with ambush of Nick Griffin.Hopefully are new coalition government will freeze the enforced tax(AKA the TV licence) or better still....get rid of the BBC altogether. Thu 13 May 2010 23:18:32 GMT+1 PhilJ Listening to all the Lib Dems in the audience whinging about PR. DOn't they realise that their party got a pretty small share of the vote whichever way you look at it. The way they carried on, you'd have thought that 100% of the electorate had voted for them. I suspect that most ordinary voters who went for the L-D's never gave PR a second thought. We vote for people not statistics! Thu 13 May 2010 23:18:07 GMT+1 DISILLUSIONED Who invited the obnoxious guy from the New Statesman on to the programme his constant ranting and trying to score points was enought to turn off the tv.If he had been on the programme pre-election Labour would have done even worse.For the sake of this country let's all hope this coalition works out well and this country can feel proud once again. Thu 13 May 2010 23:15:46 GMT+1 PhilJ 237. At 11:39pm on 13 May 2010, foxunichakilo wrote:I don't recognise this country that is being discussed by both the panel and the audience.But then again in my country the Tories have 1 MP and the Libs came 3rd.Yip, vote labour in Scotland and get a Tory westminster goverment with no mandate to rule in Scotland.Ironic thing this democracy.========================================================================You really are starting to sound like broken records north of the border. You have a party that stood for separation from the UK and it got pretty well rejected by your people. Look at it from our side - England elected a conservative Government and just about escaped with a Con-Lib thanks to the out of touch scots returning a crop of labour mp's again. We even had to put up with a Scotsman who has trashed our ecomony and then tried everything he could to keep his grubby hands on power. You're in the Union - SNP got hardly a show - get over it!! Thu 13 May 2010 23:14:56 GMT+1 jim Agreed on the racism, sexism comments at the end on this board.It would be nice to have full and broad representation however it's very much chicken and egg. Ultimately it comes from ensuring full equality of opportunity - education and employment - for all. By defintion, representation should be by votes and shouldn't be "coloured" by creed or race or sex.Give it a few more years - and no disrespect but an admitted small amount of hypocrisy - for the older folks who were brought up to worry about race, creed, sexuality, whatever to leave the voting pool, and probably all will be well. At the end of the day, for a true democracy, it shouldn't actually matter who our representatives are as long as they actually represent us. Nice thought. Sigh.~I hope :-/ Thu 13 May 2010 23:14:41 GMT+1 harrietbarman I voted Tory, but also had a lot of sympathy for some of the LD policies (10k especially) I hope the media can stop trying to tear them apart and also pull in the right direction. Also I repeat quit the oxbridge bashing. Fair enough there ought to be a better mix of gender and social backgorund. But Oxbridge discriminates on ability NOT on gender or social background. Thu 13 May 2010 23:13:57 GMT+1 Rob Do save us from the rantings of journalists who seem to believe that, just because they spend years writing about something, that they could actually run the country. The two on the panel tonight were the worst example of loud, bigoted panelists I have had the unfortunate experience to be preached at by for a long time. Thu 13 May 2010 23:13:36 GMT+1 raymond Think it was a good programe tonight, for one we didnt keep hearing gorden brown did that or gorden brown did this or what normally passes for a question but is in fact recycled propaganda from the red top papers , the programe showed the lib dems as the power hungry group they are . The chairman kept quite for once and didnt keep interupting with his own question its quite refreshing to agree with M phillips , i dont know how the BBC will solve the problem of balance with the two bedfellows , its going to show up lots of problems in parliment in the parlimentry question time and i think its a brownie point to the BBC that it has this programe in its stable, keep up the good work Thu 13 May 2010 23:13:12 GMT+1 mchester I never went to Ox-bridge. I went to a top 5 university however back in 1998.I've seen the legacy of Labour, flooded with immigrants that the country didn't need because of political correctness.An economy created on an illusion of wealth and public sector spending ballooning.Wars - without the right equipment and funding and support.Crime up, despite what the stats are published.Yet the same old same old from London based media (BBC) and audience. More concerned with narrow politics and ideologies and the oft-used labour tactic, politics of spite and envy..... its ALL about where you're from.... rather than THE JOB you're doing!Its ridiculous. Its symptomatic of why this country is like it is in 2010.Roll on the Coalition, and I'm a Conservative supporter.Libs will curb the excesses of the Tories and the Libs will get some credible policies.We'll finally get a grip back on immigration, the economy etcWhilst Labour has become irrelevant - because they are ONLY about "class", immigrants and public sector spending.Totally discredited Labour. I hope they crawl down that hole and never reemerge Thu 13 May 2010 23:13:10 GMT+1 lesbud the leaders have sold their souls to the devil......their so called principles that were so right, according to each of them, for this country......and the only ones to they seem to have thrown them out in favour for their own least we know what their true agenda is.....nothing to do with a greater good for the country but true greed of, me, me! we should have had another general election and if we do at least we will know much more about their agendas! Thu 13 May 2010 23:13:05 GMT+1 rosie I felt that Melanie Phillips and Mehdi Hasan were unnecessarily aggressive on the show tonight almost to the point of them being very rude and very bitter. People voted for all 3 parties and it was inevitable after the count that there was going to be a coalition and that compromises were going to be made by whoever took up power.It is impossible to please everyone and there are going to be many who feel let down by their parties but this Government has been formed and instead of slatting a government that has only been in office a day why not take a breath and suck it and see. This aggressiveness is part of the old dinosaur system and will no way help us to get back on our feet Thu 13 May 2010 23:13:02 GMT+1 Jeff Martin Daily Mail columnist Melanie Phillips and Mehdi Hasan of the New Statesman.I've never seen such a lot of vitriolic tripe. These people are so unhappy that "their" party never won. GET OVER IT Thu 13 May 2010 23:10:29 GMT+1 PhilJ Yet again it seems that the Question Time table is dominated by journalists. 3-3 with David Dimbleby constantly interupting every time Simon Hughes tried to answer a question. Why are the cynics in the BBC so determined to bring the Government down by lining panels with their own kind. If I hear one more grey haired journo tell me that Coalitions never worked in history!!! Get out of the past and give the future a chance. It seems that we've got more BBC cronies next week with Piers Morgan - journo turned presenter - whatever hapenned to panelists from the real world?? Thu 13 May 2010 23:08:53 GMT+1 martin Amusing that there was much bleating about Oxbridge being strongly represented in cabinet, government and parliament... given that all five panellists, plus the chairman, were Oxbridge. Thu 13 May 2010 23:07:18 GMT+1 AngryStudent whoa onevoicepolitics chill out i realise i made a mistake and believe me its labour all the way now. Lib Dems had some incredibly attractive policies especially for young first time voters like myself (especially with the everlooming fate of tuition fees) I know alot of younge poeple like myself who felt a vote for the lib dems would gain them enough support to gain more power in future years. Thu 13 May 2010 23:04:25 GMT+1 mchester Catherine: "Melanie Phillips and Mehdi Hasan are both rude, obnoxious, vitriolic, argumentative, patronising and full of sour grapes! SORE LOSERS!! Please BBC do not have them back on Question Time again when there are so many informed, non-confrontational potential panellists available.......Stop all the doom-mongering and grow up . . . give the coalition a chance."I agree Catherine.Far too many student lobbiests and wantabee politicians and career politicians and media people on QUESTION TIME as per.Try doing a real job.The political correctness of London and Question Time is reflecting is nauseating. The country was going bankrupt..... two political parties are trying to work together to reverse this ... and you get these vested groups venting bile.I'm thankful that we've seen the back of Labour and political correctness has gone out the window. It needed to.Every issue Cameron's addressing is something many of your audience tonight couldn't grasp because they were brought up in this "political correct" environment Labour created.Made me sick watching the programme today. Thu 13 May 2010 23:02:39 GMT+1 Dave What a sad state of affairs we are in, After all of the main parties claimimg they were going to "clean up politics",we all witnessed four days of the start of a five year lie!!If this is what Mr Clegg and Mr Cameron expects us to believe to be clean politics then god help us all.This short time of the new government already has started with nothing but back handers, deals and lies.Such a shame when they all promised so much!Mr Cameron who should of tried his luck for a minority government,with Brown stepping down he didn't need the liberal party.Mr Nick Clegg who promised he would not play the "king maker" lied and jumped on the back of the best deal going, for he knew without the help of any of the main party leaders he would never have so much as even sniffed the wet paint on Gordon Browns childrens pictures, let alone walked through the door of number ten Downing street.I live in Cheltenham which is a very close fought seat between the Liberals and Conservatives, I really hope that the Liberals suffer for what they have done and never make it back in at Cheltenham. The Liberals sold us out,"clean politics" you decide!! Thu 13 May 2010 23:02:11 GMT+1 Amanda Jane The Lib-Dims lose 5 seats, lose a million or so votes and yet somehow end up with the Deputy Prime Minister and 5 seats in the Cabinet....I call that Disproportionate Representation..! Thu 13 May 2010 23:01:47 GMT+1 rosie Here we are again worrying only about ourselves getting our knickers in a twist over what policies will affect us. We helped cause the global recession with being greedy and living beyond our means and the banks caused the worst of our misery under Labours rules.So are we that stupid to believe that just voting for a new party will make it all go away? We are going to pay hard to get this Country back on its feet and it will take time. We have a new Government and we can either support it to help the Country or we can keep throwing our toys out of the pram. Its time to wake up to our responsibilities. I am not enamoured the way things have gone but I do hope that things will get better and I will even try to support this new coalition as I believe fighting against it we will be only fighting ourselves Thu 13 May 2010 23:01:38 GMT+1 Ian Metcalf bells 25: sorry, but your party (and until very recently mine)is largely responsible for the state the country is now in. They made things worse than they needed to be. Coalition, Lib Dem, or Conservative government, it doesn't matter, all are better than Labour have been, the last 13 years have taken us backwards as a nation and must represent a missed opportunity to improve Britain and contribute to improving the rest of the world. None of the parties currently resemble the traditional versions of 30 years ago. Britons need to look at policies not party names when voting. That's why I think the coalition will work - the two parties will moderate and veto the worse policies of their coalition partners Thu 13 May 2010 23:00:59 GMT+1 Eli Re:Women and Minorities: The vast majority of British people don't care where your grandparents came from, what school you went to or what colour your nursery was painted. What we want to be sure of is that if you're an MP you act with honour and integrity. We also want you to demonstrate that you listen to the people who voted for you and can stop stealing from us. Thu 13 May 2010 22:59:52 GMT+1 Chris An interesting selection for the first Question time of the 'New Era'.I enjoyed the more robust debate. The previous line ups seemed to disagree after the taking of lots, but there was good separation of view.I think it was the youngest audience for quite sometime. If this indicates wider engagement then good news.It was great to see Hughes buckle under the weight of criticism for abandoned principles.It was even greater to see Heseltine, after all these years, admit that his first instinct was for party not nation. I think that is the closest we have ever come to an apology for the Thatcher years.Down side - not much depth, but then unlikely given the events of the week. DD, must get some decent rest and return in more robust control to ensure the programme is not so raucus. Thu 13 May 2010 22:57:43 GMT+1 SanaJ I can't help but believe that some of the audience, and definatley the panel in the case of the new statesman columnist and the daily mail writer are very selfish if they dont get their way and very negative. Im really excited for this new coalition, The lib dem voters should be happy not feel betrayed, now not only can they keep an eye on the tories because the tories need them, they are finally getting a real say in the governments policy making and have cabinet positions, they are actually going to get some (and I think the best bits, the 10k tax bracket in particular) implemented that they never otherwise would have got. If they are whining that the tories got so much more out of it, of course they were always going to, as a larger percent of the population voted for them it means more people agree with their manifesto so more of it should get implemented. And to the tories that are moaning that david cameron joined with the lib dems, if he hadn't there is no way a minority government would have survived longer then a few months, and then it would be even later to start trying to sort out the economy so that would have been irresponsible if he hadnt had compromised and made a deal just because he wanted everything his own way. This coalition is a perfect example of new politics because now a larger percent then usual of the population are getting a say because there are two parties in.Before people complain it is same old politics they should look at the remarkable sacrifices both parties have already made and the maturity it must have taken to do that, and judge them on that, even if they arent getting their own way they are getting in part what they want, as are the other partys voters, and we dont have to worry our goverment will colapse at any moment and sterling will go down the drain. Thu 13 May 2010 22:57:07 GMT+1 mchester I've just had the misfortune to watch the most "politically correct" load of rubbish from the BBC on QuestionTime, again.Where do you dig these audiences up from. Because they certainly aren't representative of the UK, as your panel repeatedly implies.The question about the new cabinet and the obvious looney left on there.Fact of the matter is Cameron and Clegg have picked the people they think can do the job, to right the mess that Labour have created, particularly the economic hole they dug us.I never went to Ox-bridge, but what the hell is wrong with having the best and the brightest, and a close nit group doing what we the electorate - have appointed them to do????The BBC wants to get less student lobbiests on the audience and get more people who have actually worked for a living.And the other thing. Lets have less of the political correctness too.Frankly I wish I never watched it. Its full of self opinionated student politicians Thu 13 May 2010 22:56:02 GMT+1 onevoicepolitics angrystudent - no. you got what you voted for. Did you really think that by voting Lib Dems they would get enough seats to form a government on their own. Of course you didnt. You voted for a party that ensured there would be a hung parliamnent which there was and now they have joined with the conservatives in trying to do whats best for the country. Get over yourself and next time vote for who you actually want to run the country and be more realistic. Thu 13 May 2010 22:55:40 GMT+1 narine question time, once again brillant... but that mr. hussan had nothing positive to say.... {sour grapes much} Thu 13 May 2010 22:52:54 GMT+1 antiracism Fed up with anti white men comments at the end of the programe. Racist and sexist comments like that should not be allowed, am sure its against the law ummmmmmmmm. People need to grow up and put into power the best PERSON for the job, not on creed or sex. I am a Buddist yet i not asking for more buddists in the goverment. i am not white but does this really matter. When will people see WE ALL THE SAME Thu 13 May 2010 22:52:30 GMT+1 onevoicepolitics risky1 cannot agree more. The BBC have a long history of bringing people on just to stir things up. Neither of the two journalists made any intelligent contributions to the debate tonight, in fact both were happy to come across as agressive, biased and stupid and they succeeded. I was disappointed with QT tonight, although it probably had a lot to live up to with pre election debates, however bringing on them two idiots from the paper did not help. (Have I said that before) Thu 13 May 2010 22:51:56 GMT+1 bells25 I really think we are heading for trouble. I am just glad i did not vote lib dems (which i was thinking about doing) because if i knew it was going to lead to the country getting in bed with the torys i would have run a mile. I even forced my father to vote because i thought a none vote would get the torys into power(clearly did not matter in the end) I dont think this new "coalition government" is going to work, it is just like sleeping with the enemy and no matter how much that say it is going to work it is going to ruin britain Thu 13 May 2010 22:49:52 GMT+1 AngryStudent I voted Lib Dem, can i have my vote back? Thu 13 May 2010 22:49:51 GMT+1 ruth4truth Oh dear! M Hasan and M Phillips bashing the coalition government. Predictable yes but how insulting to the electorate of which I am one. Look, a poisoned challice which the electorate handed to the coalition is diluted by the LibDem/Tory arrangement. No matter which way the LibDems went they were always going to be lambasted. Of course difficulties lie ahead but that's always been the case for any newly elected government - hasn't it? Thu 13 May 2010 22:48:46 GMT+1 BartiDdu I don't know if this 'new politics' will last or will work - but neither does anybody else! Those who don't like it, who are protesting so loudly that it should not have happened (Hasan going on about the LibDem voters' betrayal, Phillips likewise that the Conservatives have betrayed their values) are also saying with such conviction and determination that it can't last and won't work. Hey, we don't know! The votes were cast and like it or loath it we have to let them get on with it - as we have since this time last week.My preference - and this is totally new for me - is to give the new Government the benefit of the doubt until they show me otherwise.BDd Thu 13 May 2010 22:48:45 GMT+1 Robert Brown I listen to the audience and their concerns on policies that Lib Dems have betrayed them on yet they scorn Alex Salmond at every opportunity.A man whose party not just wants an alternative to Trident but wishes to dismantle it with no replacement. A party that has refused planning permission for any new nuclear power stations but has given permission for thousands of wind and wave generators, a party that not only wants an immigration amnesty but wishes a positive immigration policy welcoming immigrants to Scotland and a commitment to PR.A party with a progressive agenda which has seen free university for students, free prescriptions, free personal care for the elderly yet has also ensured that small business rates have been set at zero for two years and has held no increase in council tax for any Scottish electorate for the past 3 years.This has all been done by a left of centre progressive party who has used its proportional share of its devolved policy budget to far better use than that of a failed Labour Government in England who wasted English taxpayers money on Quangos and beaurocracy. Thu 13 May 2010 22:47:30 GMT+1 harrietbarman As an Oxford Alumni, what on this Earth is wrong with our Cabinet being made up of Oxbridge alumni? Worldwide they are regarded as centres of excellence. If this were the US we would not be complaining that our senators were Ivy League! If the chap in the audience thinks he can run for Parliament then ***** do it! Instead of sitting on a sanctimonious behind complaining. As for being from public school, I agree that our state schools need to be better so that more state pupils(Like my Conservative candidate, Chris, beaten by 42 votes by Glenda Jackson. He went to South Liondon State and then Oxford)can attend Oxbridge. However this ought not to be through positive quotas. But PLEASE less bleating about our senior public sevants attending two of the best universities in the world. Thu 13 May 2010 22:46:44 GMT+1