Comments for en-gb 30 Thu 03 Sep 2015 07:14:31 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at rkeen Wish I had seen this last week!For all those who support the hunting act, PLEASE get your names on the R.O.A.R. (Register Online Against Repeal),an 'all party' list at: Fri 18 Dec 2009 18:46:17 GMT+1 TerryS At the top of this blog is the question: "Should the ban on hunting with dogs be lifted?"My answer is most definitely NO. Not only should the ban remain in place, but it should be strengthened to remove all loopholes and allow easier prosecution of those who are currently ignoring or abusing the law.I thought the item on 'The One Show' was very biased in support of hunting, especially in the way in which it portrayed this issue as one of 'town versus country'. I was born, brought up and live in foxhunting country and I detest hunting. As a child/teenager/youth I was ambivalent towards hunting (it was just a local feature that most people didn't seriously question), but the more I learnt of both the hunt and their quarry the more I came to realise that it is a vile, cruel and unnecessary anachronism. Anyone who believes that it has anything to do with 'controlling fox numbers' is badly deluded - hunting is totally ineffective in this respect, as was confirmed to me by some (non-hunting) farmers I knew. However, for those (relatively few) foxes that are killed by hunts, hunting is very cruel - especially the autumn cub hunting and the use of terriers to dig out those foxes that find a safe haven underground if the hunt servants failed to block a bolt hole the night before.I live in a marginal (West Country) Lib Dem/Conservative constituency and although I have no great love for either the Lib Dems or the present Labour government there is no way I could bring myself to vote Conservative in the knowledge that my vote would help to legalise the cruel barbarity of fox, deer and hare hunting and hare coursing. Years ago I used to vote Conservative but switched to the Lib Dems primarily because I wanted to see an end to hunting and my then Conservative MP was not even prepared to listen to any arguments against hunting. The sitting Conservative MP was defeated and the Lib Dems have held the seat with a narrow majority ever since. It is the Conservative's support for hunting that makes them the 'Nasty Party' as far as I am concerned. I really cannot understand why David Cameron wants to associate his supposedly modernised and progressive form of Conservatism with the out-dated cruelty of hunting and coursing. There are even some misguided people who want to bring back otter hunting! Mon 14 Dec 2009 16:00:24 GMT+1 Richard Trevelyan Len, one thing I forgot to mention (I told you I was new at this)My issue with Yosuf Islam is not whether he is a good or a bad man, but that he is in a position - because of his music and former 'star status' - and not through any percieved qualities of an intellectual or spiritual nature; to influence people and events in ways that 'ordinary mortals' cannot. In simple language he is able to 'punch well above his weight'.Assuming that Muslim clerics cannot claim moral superiority over any other politico/religious groups, and also assuming that at least some of them would not be above using such an asset (why should they not? professional politicians do it all the time.) Well, there is not much point in chipping away at this,but perhaps your research can support or refute something else I seem to remember reading or watching: I have an idea that Mr Stevens, when asked by an interviewer a year or so ago, why he was resiling (political buzzword of the moment!) on a previous commitment to turn his back on fame and celebrity by making a new album; he indicated that he would not personally benefit but that all the proceeds from the sales of his records would go to the Muslim community or whatever.Richard Sun 13 Dec 2009 20:12:31 GMT+1 Richard Trevelyan Len, thanks for your blog, I am new to this form of commnication and, in fact, have never before now become involved in one. I think perhaps that we are singing from the same hymn sheet but from different perspectives.I would certainly eradicate the BNP but it is, in my view,the widely held perception that positive discrimination against the indigenous population by dishonest politicians who, these days, seem to have eyes only for the main chance, that plays into the hands of the likes of Nick Griffin. Sun 13 Dec 2009 19:34:06 GMT+1 Len West # 172Richard, I have to take you to task - your post #162 could have been taken straight out of the BNP handbook.I would like to believe that an open mind doesn't group people but accepts the characters of individuals. There is good and bad in all races, creeds and religions. The point I have is that because Cat Stevens is a Muslim doesn't make him a terrorist. I too get anoyed at 'positive' discrimination - which to anyone not P.C. equates to 'negative' discrimination. I am 'English' but I dont want to be marginalised into a group purely by my place of birth.Before today I was neither for or against Cat Stevens. What I have done is investigated and tried to look past the biases and stereotypes, and overall I am now of the belief that he is a good man.Some of the previous blogs seem unfounded and probably are stereotypicable of the policies that I, and your latest blog suggests, and you would strive to eradicate - The BNP for starters Fri 11 Dec 2009 23:08:05 GMT+1 Larry Seabrook The hunting story was poorly investigated your reporter made a good representative for the hunt. His statement that hunts routinely lay trails for the hounds to follow is completely wrong. We have two hunts operating in my area neither lay trails. Every farmer in our valley shoots foxes any time of the year. They do not call the hunt to control any fox causing problems. The same comments are made every time the subject comes up. Always slight sneer when mentioning townies as the only opposition---rubbish. Where do farmers sell their produce to country dwellers only?? Hunting is a cruel scene which should be totally banned as unacceptable in the 21 century Fri 11 Dec 2009 22:19:43 GMT+1 watchingone 133 - jadedoldie, I was obviously a bit confused by your post because I thought you were responding to the previous post that day which was about Adrian drawing attention to Ms Midler's language faux pas by apologising for it, and I was wondering why that made him obsequious in your opinion. So with your clarification, now I understand. And all this happened about 3 blogs ago, so no doubt everyone else is now confused. Fri 11 Dec 2009 20:22:36 GMT+1 Richard Trevelyan Len whilst I respect your view, words are cheap; in fact there is nothing cheaper. ( you've only to look at our own politicians)Whilst I have the greatest respect for the followers of Islam that I met in various parts of the world 40 odd years ago; they were indeed men of honour and I'm sure they would condemn much of what is being done in the name of Islam now. Saladin, arguably the most formidable of Islamic warriors since Islam was created would almost certainly have condemned it, and I think that your quote from Leviticus is a cheap shot and lets you down intellectually. What you are, in effect, saying is that it would be perfectly acceptable for Christians (we are still, just about a Christian country!) to expel, kill, or in any otherwise rid ouselves of Muslims and any other minorities who don't fit in with our life style. I think you would find that such a view would gain lots of support in a country that feels itself discriminated against in favour of minorities, and people have lots of anger (justifiably) about this. Politicians of all colours seem to think that the electorate is pretty dumb, but most people, surprisingly, seem to be aware of such facts that: Christians would not be allowed to build churches in muslim countries except at risk of death, but muslims, are outraged by any such perceived prejudice in our country.It would, however, be a mistake to lay such inequalities at the door of the muslim community: The blame lies squarely with the gutless politicians who presently, supposedly run our country, and it is high time we stood up for OUR rights in our own country. Otherwise such deeply repugnant parties as the BNP will rapidly make ground, and who knows where that would end? Fri 11 Dec 2009 18:51:26 GMT+1 hunter2 in reply about my spelling and grammer i am dislexik if thats how u spell it and i may not off been using the right grammer in my argument about fox hunting all i no is that one day i hope it comes back so the fox HOUNDS of the BRITISH isles can hunt freely again Fri 11 Dec 2009 17:50:39 GMT+1 Richard Trevelyan Fri 11 Dec 2009 17:47:04 GMT+1 Len West # 162 In response to your question What kind of 'peacful' religion reckons that even criticism of their 'prophet' warrants a death sentence? I'm pleased to relplyFrom the Holy Bible Leviticus 24:16 (King James Version) And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death. Fri 11 Dec 2009 17:33:16 GMT+1 sky_viewer Re 164/166: thank you both. Fri 11 Dec 2009 17:21:29 GMT+1 Rinty Salmon Rushdie:I was living in Bombay at the time of the Salmon Rushdie incident that led to the fatwah. I had a good friend, Shaffi. Shaffi was a Muslim. He had two grown up and well educated sons. They came to their father very agitated and hurling abuse an threats against Rushdie's book the 'Satanic Verses'. His sons were angry. They wanted to go out on to the streets and protest vehemently. Their father asked them if they had read the book. They said they hadn't. So Shaffi told them that Prophet taught that you should not talk of things about which you know nothing. He told them to go away and read Rushdie's book. They calmed down and lost interest in demonstrating. Shaffi presented Islam to me as a perceptive and gentle religion. Nowadays I cannot help wondering if it was just the singer and not the song. Fri 11 Dec 2009 16:43:36 GMT+1 scuzzy983 sky_viewer, Host_Ryan: thank you very much for your help in finding the name of that wonderful piece of music. :-) Fri 11 Dec 2009 16:16:39 GMT+1 Len West # 161 Do I detect sarcasm in your last sentance? Again from Google - 'In October 2004 the British newspapers The Sun and The Sunday Times voiced their support for Yusuf's deportation by the US government, claiming that he had supported terrorism. Yusuf successfully sued for libel and received a substantial out-of-court financial settlement and apologies from the newspapers stating that he had never supported terrorism and acknowledging that he had recently been given a Man of Peace award from the private Nobel Peace Prize Laureates Committee.'# 162 Immediately following the 11 September 2001, attacks on the United States, he said:(Google to the rescue again}I wish to express my heartfelt horror at the indiscriminate terrorist attacks committed against innocent people of the United States yesterday. While it is still not clear who carried out the attack, it must be stated that no right-thinking follower of Islam could possibly condone such an action. The Qur'an equates the murder of one innocent person with the murder of the whole of humanity. We pray for the families of all those who lost their lives in this unthinkable act of violence as well as all those injured; I hope to reflect the feelings of all Muslims and people around the world whose sympathies go out to the victims of this sorrowful moment.Richard - guilty by association? perhaps YOU might name a few names... Fri 11 Dec 2009 16:14:55 GMT+1 Ryan - One Show team Thanks to you sky_viewer for often supplying music details on the blog, too. I'll pass on your congratulations. Best wishes. Fri 11 Dec 2009 15:41:09 GMT+1 sky_viewer Re 48, 122, 132, 144, 157-159: scuzzy183 - so it WAS the bit I originally thought... and the bit I particularly loved. One of our light music friends again, Robert Farnon.Host Ryan - many thanks. Pass on my congratulations to whoever chose it to accompany the film - it was perfect: haunting, atmospheric & so evocative. Fri 11 Dec 2009 15:31:28 GMT+1 Richard Trevelyan #160 I am pushing 70 and I clearly remember the book-burning near riots and public calls by muslims for Rusdie to be put to death. Stevens was shown on national TV supporting these odious people. What kind of 'peacful' religion reckons that even criticism of their 'prophet' warrants a death sentence? Any non-muslim Englishman spouting the kind of stuff that these fanatics spout in this country wouldn't just be routinely arrested and then quietly let go, as seems to happen in the majority of cases involving muslims as perpetrators.They would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and have the 'book thrown at them', and rightly so. If Josuf Islam is, as you say, a man who believes in peacful solutions to all conflicts, why does he not come out and publicly condemn - by name - all his religious compratriots who seemingly believe exactly the opposite? Fri 11 Dec 2009 15:26:43 GMT+1 oneeyedjack Len WestHappy for you that you have to tell us that you don't read the Sun.I am clearly mistaken if your facts are right and given that he took up Islam, then of course he will be a man of peace. Fri 11 Dec 2009 15:03:02 GMT+1 Len West # 153 I am not 100% au fait with the Salmon Rushdie incident, apart from vague recolections some years ago.So Google to the rescue and in every search it would seem that Cat Stevens fervently denies the allegations. Again not having been there (Kingston Univrsity London) I can't say it's factual, but it would appear that Cat Stevens was asked by a reporter (different from soap boxing in Hyde Park) what his views were on the fatawa. This is taken from Wikipedia ' The media interpreted his response ' not as oneeyedjack's proposition 'shame he wanted Salman Rushdie killed.'Not being a reader of the Sun et al, and their somewhat dubious' interpretations', I am of a more open mind.What Google reveals is a person dedicated to peace and numerous charitable foundations.And his music is pretty darn good too.... Fri 11 Dec 2009 14:53:56 GMT+1 Ryan - One Show team Hello again scuzzy983, I have an answer for you sooner than I thought. I've been told that these are the details for that piece of music:TRACK TITLE: MIST ON THE MOORS ARTIST: NFI COMPOSER: FARNON, ROBERT PUBLISHER: MARROWLYN LTD ALBUM TITLE: THE VINTAGE COLLECTION 1 RECORD LABEL: BRUTON MUSIC =======Thanks for visiting The One Show website. Fri 11 Dec 2009 14:40:13 GMT+1 Ryan - One Show team Hi scuzzy983 - I'll look through the film paperwork and post an answer on this blog for you. But I won't get a chance to reply 'til Monday. Best wishes Fri 11 Dec 2009 14:18:14 GMT+1 scuzzy983 #144 sky_viewer: thanks for trying. Maybe someone else knows what the piece of music used in Angelica Bell's piece on the London smog of 1952 is called? (It's used from 11.48-12.30 on the iPlayer if anyone's interested). Fri 11 Dec 2009 13:16:32 GMT+1 bordeauxmalc Must go, have a busy day today and may not get back on the blog until late in the evening your time, but will definitely will log on whatever! Fri 11 Dec 2009 12:44:57 GMT+1 bordeauxmalc It would have been an even earlier 'Good Morning" but I couldn't get internet connection this morning for sometime, the second time it has happened this week and this in the land of technology and internet devotion? Fri 11 Dec 2009 12:41:11 GMT+1 bordeauxmalc I still have the suspicion that hunter2's spelling and grammar are somewhat deliberate and that also his comments are provocative rather than necessarily what he believes. Whatever, the response came didn't it? Any hunting enthusiast reading the blog would surely get the message that there is not a groundswell of public opinion ready to bring it back!A very good early morning (for me anyway) to all our bloggers. Hope to see you back kazibeth! Fri 11 Dec 2009 12:38:30 GMT+1 oneeyedjack Gerald Abrahams 147You are right, not intellectual at all. Yusuf Islam - nice music, shame he wanted Salman Rushdie killed. Fri 11 Dec 2009 10:23:42 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex hunter2............he did not chicken out,,,if he was a chicken someone would set a fox on him. Fri 11 Dec 2009 09:42:31 GMT+1 Rinty re #150: I knew someone was going to say that. I resisted the urge to do so. Fri 11 Dec 2009 08:59:23 GMT+1 hunter2 at the end off the day if the fox did not enjoy it he/she would not take part simples eeekkk Fri 11 Dec 2009 08:38:24 GMT+1 gerald abrahams Not a very intellectual comment to add , but Christine B. looked the hottest I 've ever seen her last night. Something about the hair and make up. Anyway- good live music from Yusuf Islam Fri 11 Dec 2009 07:02:45 GMT+1 hunter2 146 yes we did say all off those things but we as the hunting fraternity have worked very hard to getting our fox hounds to hunt a false trail and that was not your idea it was ours so poke your comment. as for 147 the hunting come back as the best british sport there is hay at least the ozy s wont beat us at it nor ze germans lol whoooop tally hooo Fri 11 Dec 2009 06:41:50 GMT+1 bordeauxmalc 11 highlandflingNot a great deal of socialising this afternoon evening! My wife's daughter and her husband moved houses today and we were unpacking boxes. However there is much going on here this month.On the main subject of tonight's blog. Let's keep hunting where it is now - BANNED. It really cannot be defended! Fri 11 Dec 2009 01:36:48 GMT+1 Howard Wright Before the Labour Party brought in the law against hunting the pro lobby said how it would devastate the equestrian sports scene , that stables would close, horses shot, huntsmen would be turned out of their tied homes,National Hunt racing would suffer, the British Cross Country Eventing team would go down hill etc etc. The anti lobby predicted exactly the opposite. That greater numbers would turn out to drag hunts etc when it was seen to be humane. The latter has happened and the Pro-hunt lobby is now trying to say all these extra folks are turning out to be counted in their favour !!! What a pack of liers!!!! If the law is repealed who will be the losers? THE HUNTING FRATERNITY !!! Fri 11 Dec 2009 01:19:58 GMT+1 bordeauxmalc Only just got back in (it's only 8 00 p.m. here)Seems I have missed lively debate! On the subject of hunter2 I wonder if his English and spelling is as really bad as he wants us to believe? Fri 11 Dec 2009 01:04:11 GMT+1 sky_viewer Re 116: Len, you are right to be concerned for the weekend - I fear these reprobates are to be found all over the country as I too have recently become a victim of this reprehensible act. It did not happen often at first, but the frequency escalated dramatically and, furthermore, I fear my local stores may be running low on wallets. Punitive action such as sitting in a both (copyright 2009 hunter2) with hunter2 to watch fox hunting may provide a suitable deterrent. Re 48, 122 & 132: I listened again - I thought you meant the orchestral piece used in the background later in the film but I now see that you probably meant the jazzy bit that was easier to hear. Unfortunately, I don't know what either of them are, but I've certainly heard the piece you refer to before. Fri 11 Dec 2009 00:04:10 GMT+1 hunter2 117 kazibethnever chikend out back on line keep hunting i love it lol any one 4 a scone and jam Thu 10 Dec 2009 23:52:48 GMT+1 jadedoldie Post 135, John Holyer, if my body still worked I would be aboard my boy in a heartbeat, old as I am! Surely the hell of it was wondering whether you would both arrive in the same place at the same time,lol. Post 138 John Holyer, Len West is turning into a little treasure isn't he! Thu 10 Dec 2009 23:43:44 GMT+1 oneeyedjack Re 140excuse my grammar, should have read "BBC is" not "BBC are" Thu 10 Dec 2009 23:16:22 GMT+1 oneeyedjack 137 bignumptyAgree with your sentiments, however remember that the BBC are a PC outfit and the odd fatwa now and then would not dissuade. They are not on our side! Thu 10 Dec 2009 23:15:02 GMT+1 Jaysee I don't understand why a repeal on hunting is even an issue. Are the tories so desperate for votes they'll lift anything to get them? We're talking about animal's lives, foxes being ripped to pieces, not just a cut in taxes or slapped wrists for burglars, this is about our wildlife, our foxes (and badgers etc) being destroyed for 'FUN??' They do not have a chance in hell to escape death by exhaustion, hounds, spades and bullets by people that despise them so much. I don't think there's any fun in it for the animal, do you? Why is animal abuse and torture even being considered again by a government that is fooling us into believing they will get this country back on it's feet?? I know, let's begin by letting people with half a brain and no compassion torment, torture and kill foxes. We all know it's barbaric and cruel and the excuses hunter's make for their sick pasttime is almost as amusing as their ridiculous 16th cetury uniform! 100% NO, THE BAN ON FOXES MUST NOT BE LIFTED. We shouldn't even be having to debate this evil torture in this day and age. Thu 10 Dec 2009 22:46:03 GMT+1 Rinty re #116: Len West,Thank you for that. You genuinely made me laugh out loud. You have added a touch of class to this blog. I shall chuckle at your joke all night. Thu 10 Dec 2009 22:38:57 GMT+1 Bignumpty This post has been Removed Thu 10 Dec 2009 22:27:24 GMT+1 Rinty re #107: kazibeth,Surely, clay pigeons have rights too. Thu 10 Dec 2009 22:23:57 GMT+1 Rinty re #124: jadedoldie,I used to ride a lot in the past. I loved it. I too would like to drag hunt. I never have. But I believe that I can no longer ride that well. It is very dangerous. Sitting on half a ton of horse, galloping at a fence and hoping that you both go across together. Thu 10 Dec 2009 22:21:02 GMT+1 Rinty re #88: alfresco2can,I am not making myself clear. I would not go fox hunting because I have empathy with the fox. But, unlike you, I do not despise those who hunt. Do not associate me with your politics or venom. What on earth has specsavers got to do with it. Unless it's joke which. I suppose it is meant to be. As a joke it's about as erudite as your poetry. Thu 10 Dec 2009 22:14:46 GMT+1 jadedoldie Post 119, watchingone, by the way I have to point out that short of prostrating himself at her feet, AC could not have fawned more over Bette Midler. Obsequious meaning fawning, I thought it the correct word to use. Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:58:35 GMT+1 scuzzy983 #122 sky_viewer: your help would be much appreciated. :-) Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:53:20 GMT+1 jadedoldie 128, I hadn't thought of that dutchblog, but I appreciate the humour! 129, night HKA. Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:29:39 GMT+1 jadedoldie HHHHHMMMMMM, not if it was you dear, for I realise you cannot help it, lol. Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:27:29 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex got to go.ta ta.... Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:27:13 GMT+1 dutchblog # 124 jadedoldie – with yesterday’s remark from guest Rob in mind hope nobody suggests "drag hunt" is something to do in The Netherlands! Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:27:10 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex jadedoldie.....would you shoot tellers of bad jokes? Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:23:00 GMT+1 dutchblog bordeauxmalcLen Westhokeykokeyalex - #5 – good attempt, already in the mid 120’s .Enjoyable showing this evening, lets see how they pad out the longer show Friday.Totziens ! Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:22:52 GMT+1 jadedoldie Watchingone I was about to mention that I made that statement, which I also stand by. Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:20:17 GMT+1 jadedoldie Len West. perhaps you could teach HKA some jokes. In the interest of being honest, I have shot foxes, I have shot foxes dying a painful and lingering death from mange and I have shot a fox who was tearing a lamb limb from limb, so I am no shrinking violet, but on the other hand I have also offered to shoot the pink coated oaf who attempted to ride across my fields after having been refused permission to hunt there! I would love to drag hunt, but I have serious issues with the arrogance of the majority of hunt members and supporters! Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:18:05 GMT+1 watchingone re my post 119 - apologies to John Holyer, it was jadedoldie who called Adrian obsequious. Jadedoldie isnt his biggest fan either mind you. I stand by the rest of my post though. Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:07:26 GMT+1 sky_viewer Re 48: scuzzy183 - I must listen to it again as I was in and out of the room at the time, but it seemed perfect for the accompanying film. Hopefully we can succeed in tracking it down as with Edward White's Puffin' Billy. Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:03:22 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex Len West...116...superb...put a smile on both of my face's. Thu 10 Dec 2009 21:01:05 GMT+1 sky_viewer hunter2 - the hound is a type of dog.Fox hunting is a barbaric activity. Listening to all the supporters of it at the time when it was in the news so much, it very much came across as a blood-hungry pastime (with much misguided rejoicing) and anything such as keeping fox numbers down (see also post 71) was never used in the argument by these people. All we had was that a ban would take away their freedom, while conveniently never mentioning the defenceless fox.Good posts by kazibeth on the subject tonight. Welcome to the One Show blog.Enjoyed post 5 on religion and Santa. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:58:38 GMT+1 watchingone post 11 Highland Fling, just googled out of interest to find out about this swearing thing you mentioned, surprise surprise its the daily wail again, they seem to have it in for A & C at the moment. Personally, I dont think they could have heard/registered what Bette had said, as both apologised immediately when Ozzy swore the other day. Then, as you say, Adrian was probably told to apologise and consequently got it in the neck from the bloggers - one in particular said he was "obsequious" - but then I think that was John Holyer, who isnt known for being A's biggest fan. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:58:18 GMT+1 Jacko @ 116Oh my God! Love your joke, I'm laughing!! That's a good one.You'd better start stocking up on wallets I think, dib dib dib....Be Prepared!!!!!!!!! Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:58:05 GMT+1 kazibeth Have never participated in this sort of blog before - it is good fun! I might come back and have another go!However, now that Hunter 2 has chickened out, I have some surfing to do. Good night, nice talking to you all. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:57:17 GMT+1 Len West #112 HKA signing off now I'll leave you with this oneOne for the men folk to be aware of?!?Over the last couple of months this guy became a victim of a clever 'EasternEuropean' scam while out shopping.Simply dropping into Asda for a bit of shopping has turned out to be quitetraumatic. Don't be naive enough to think it couldn't happen to you or yourfriends.Here's how the scam works:Two seriously good-looking voluptuous 20-21 year-old girls come over to yourcar as you are packing your shopping into the boot. They both start cleaningyour windscreen. Their large firm young breasts almost falling out of theirskimpy T-shirts. It's impossible not to look especially with all the rain wehave been having. When you thank them and offer them a tip, they'll say'No' and instead ask you for a lift to another store, in my case, Morrisonsat the other side of town.You agree (well it would be rude to refuse) and they both get in thebackseat.On the way, they start undressing, and both get completely naked. Then, whenyou pull over to remonstrate, one of them climbs over into the front seatand starts crawling all over your lap, kissing you, touching you intimately,and thrusting herself against you, while the other one steals your wallet! I had my wallet stolen on July 4th, 9th, 10th, twice on the 15th, 17th and29th. Also Aug 1st and 4th, twice on the 6th, three times last Saturday andvery likely again this coming weekend.So Be Warned!P.S. Lidl have wallets on sale for £1.99 each, Aldi are £1.75 and looknicer. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:56:04 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex goodnight to all bloggers,,,even if we agree or not i enjoy your input....orf for cream tea ,don't ya know... Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:55:08 GMT+1 Jacko @ 112Thanks for our chat tonight Hokey, Len and Dutchblog. Nice to see that some people acknowledge your presence isn't it? Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:53:03 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex Jacko ....yes time to go...goodnight my friend.johnholyer,please be gentle with them all.they do not understand. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:52:44 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex Jacko..i have a big nose,,,len west tells good's growing again. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:50:47 GMT+1 Jacko @ you're just being silly..............go and have a lie down. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:49:37 GMT+1 hunter2 not a wind up artist just stiking up 4 wot i belive in and haveing a joke along the way nothing wrong with that is there not my fault i have the fastest mouth in the south as my mates say or as some off u said hanger ons bye bye Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:48:46 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex Jacko,,,,,who is Shakespeare ?is he shakspaer brother? Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:48:38 GMT+1 Jacko @ 106I think you knew what I meant by my remark, which had no bearing whatsoever on what you have just you well know!!!!!!! Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:48:38 GMT+1 kazibeth Foxhunting certainly isn't a case of class war.We have Hunter 2 (who obviously isn't posh) working towards the return of the barbaric practice (mind you, I don't think he really understands the ethical argument)And on other side, you have many rural residents who are very posh (like me. LOL! ) I have told local hunters "The next time any of you set foot on my land, I will SET MY DOGS ON YOU and see how you like it!) I also have a shotgun (for clay pigeon shooting, I hasten to add), which I would love to wave in their direction, but unfortunately, because I obey the law, it is locked up so securely that the hunt is long gone by the time I get it out from it's extremely secure and hidden triple-locked box.Now that would make an interesting debate - Hunter 2 who is clearly not posh, on the Pro side, and me (who can do very posh very well) on the Anti side. That might change people's perception, and get down to the nitty gritty of what this is REALLY all about -----KILLING! Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:48:20 GMT+1 Len West ~103 Totally agree - Shakespeare was left footed!!! Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:46:25 GMT+1 Jacko @ 101Shaking my head in wonderment at it all.......................... Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:46:24 GMT+1 hunter2 100 loved every min off it one day might try to be pm wot do u think but must go to work will join in more often take care all and remembre keep hunting Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:45:16 GMT+1 Jacko @ 96I hardly think 'Beckham's right foot' can be mentioned alongside Shakespeare........oh dear.......... Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:45:05 GMT+1 Len West # I'm beginning to think that Hunter 2 is a bit of a wind up artist (it's not you Melanie, is it?) If not can I sit in the both with you - but only to watch The One Show? Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:45:04 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex Jacko he say's..."keep hunting keep fighting". Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:44:49 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex hunter2. you have been brilliant,,,please do blog highlight...shakspaer beckhams right foot cream teas and many other things".fantastic shakspaer himself could not better. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:43:22 GMT+1 Jacko @ 93Hokey, he would be the executioner, never mind selling the tickets!! Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:43:19 GMT+1 hunter2 93 will only sell the tickets if i get one off those boths to sit in with tv so i can watch hunting lol Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:41:14 GMT+1 RJ No. 12 "I have just witnessed by husbands bird of prey being attacked in our back garden this afternoon by a fox I can have no sympathy for these creatures."So, your husband's bird of prey (i.e., bird used to hunt other defenseless creatures, but at the bidding of a human) was attacked by a fox who saw a something that would help it survive? What part of what you said makes the fox the baddie? Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:40:37 GMT+1 hunter2 88 two fat ladies i dont care wot u think to be honest hunting is part off our great island like shakspaer beckhams right foot cream teas and many other things. x Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:38:35 GMT+1 Len West # Sorry Dutcblog - not got a book, DVD, or tour to promote - therefore no chance - I do however do a good line in quick fire jokes and have a few available dates for hunt balls etc. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:37:41 GMT+1 stuart nuttall Hi I was driving along from 1 appointment to another , when the local hunt appeared excercising their hounds. I was abused when I said it was a road a public right of way. I explained I was only working ad would they get out of my way. They bacame really abusive and said I better hadnt hurt their animals. I then explained as a vegeterian I will not harm any animals They said would I like to get out and discuss this. I said I was vegetarian not stupid. They were really threatening and to be truthfull I was afraid to get out of my car as I was outnumbered by people and50 or 60 dogs. Its still a class thing and really sadistic and only entertainment( not for the foxes and deer. Stuart Nuttall Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:36:28 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex day they might bring back hanging,you can sell the tickets. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:34:45 GMT+1 dutchblog #89 – hokeykokeyalex – isn’t this what you do on the blog? Signed Joe King. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:33:59 GMT+1 hunter2 yea i cant spell u see i aint a toff lol well any way must go got work tonight o and 72 they are hounds and thanks 4 the spelling lesson too lovely talking to u all hope one day hunting with hounds is legal agen and u can all come and see wot its all about and u never no u may enjoy it its quiet socail to tally hoo Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:33:12 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex Alfresco2can.. yes- let us not forget johnholyer really agree's with you. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:32:53 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex dutchblog ,,,,,,,,,,i would be a terrible guest,telling them they are londoncentric every 4 minutes. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:31:02 GMT+1 RJ No. 65 You enjoy being accepted by a minority of other weak people who cling to each other. Making something suffer, but especially because you get off on it, is obscene. A bit like Dickens observations of the slavering crowd enjoying the party-like atmosphere of the execution. It's not right and not acceptable, especially if you are supposed to be civilisedNo. 68 I only sound political about it because it is. You have to answer those who have the power to stop it and I was only stating the obvious. That you don't feel I care about the fox is a bit of a daft thing to suppose in light of my post and I respectfully suggest you go to Specsavers. I'm very pleased you don't agree with the hunting of foxes Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:30:10 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex kazibeth.... and my point is that everytime i see someone on tv supporting the hunt they have a posh voice and tell us it is a class war.i am not saying they are posh...or it is a class war.i am saying it is a smoke screen to hide a terrible "pastime". Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:29:18 GMT+1 dutchblog O’K then, apart from hokeykokeyalex, Jacko , maybe Len West and myself who would be the ultimate guest on the One Show?Which has been the best show?What is the best blog to date?pax vobiscum(#5 hokeykokeyalex = you goona make it?) Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:28:36 GMT+1 kazibeth *62 Hunter 2 Every anti i have met has called us posh **** or toffs witch we are notI haven't noticed anyone here calling you either "posh" or a "toff", which you clearly are not. I would certainly never do such a thing - I would just call you ver misguided, and unable to accept the democratic process! Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:25:54 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex Len West..but i picked it myself. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:23:52 GMT+1 hokeykokeyalex John Holyer .what i am saying is that whenever the subject is brought up the supporters of the hunt say it is a class war thing.i have said that if they want to call it a class war thing then let them.i am not saying it is or is you think it is a class war?or do you think that is just a smoke screen as i am possibly saying.or are you just wanting to argue again? Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:23:00 GMT+1 Len West #70 Kazibeth, I bet you've got a lovely nose - unlike HKA's which keeps growing and growing.. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:21:54 GMT+1 Jacko @ 74I am laughing at your comments. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:21:31 GMT+1 oneeyedjack Len West 31If you paid £15.99 for that take it back for a refund and as for red lipstick - no! - makes her look Betty Davis on a bad day. Thu 10 Dec 2009 20:21:25 GMT+1