Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html en-gb 30 Sun 30 Aug 2015 04:47:32 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html Jayne Smith http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html?page=88#comment8 The 'City of Adelaide' was purpose built to serve the new colony of South Australia and the name 'Adelaide' is not just coincidental with the name of the capital city of South Australia. More than a quarter of a million Australians are the descendants of passengers who travelled on this clipper. This ship carried immigrants and goods needed for the colony's development and brought major Australian export goods wuch as wool, wheat and copper to the London markets. How many people in Sunderland today can claim to have ancestors who travelled on this ship? Other than being built in a Weir shipyard, there is no other connection with Sunderland. On the other hand, this clipper made 23 return journeys from London to Adelaide and Port Augusta (regional town in South Australia). The Australians are right to campaign for this ship - for them it is a lot more than shipbuilding technology. It is their social history as well! I believe that the two Australians shown in the doco are descendants of passengers who sailed on the clipper. Hence, it is very personal for them. I support the campaign for the clipper to go to Australia. Tue 09 Mar 2010 06:58:13 GMT+1 Chris Jackson BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html?page=77#comment7 It's not scientific but the blog comments so far are unanimously in support of Peter Maddison's campaign.I notice that there is also a comment in the letters page of the Northern Echo this morning: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/features/letters/5047055.City_of_Adelaide/I'll obviously update the blog when there's any news of what's going to happen to the ship. Mon 08 Mar 2010 11:19:39 GMT+1 Alan Philpott http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html?page=66#comment6 When it's gone, it's gone. In 20 years time they will be asking "how could they have destroyed it?" It will be too late then as it is almost too late already, so please somebody with either the money to finance it themselves or the political clout to make one of our governments (north or south!)step in and save this irreplaceable part of our heritage. Fri 05 Mar 2010 10:25:49 GMT+1 Angela Hunter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html?page=55#comment5 In the North East, there seems to be a tradition of dismantling that which is a superb investment. The marsden rattler and miners houses at Whitburn could have been made into a type of "Beamish" attraction, but no, they tore them down. Ok, so this isn't the North East asking to dismantle this, but why are our councils so remiss when it comes to bringing back a ship, which would mean so much to the people on the Wear?More training, more jobs, a tourism attraction bringing revenue to an area which desperately needs it for years to come. Is this not worth our investment?I'm afraid the chap on the tape was right, if this had of been in "the magic circle" i.e London, it would have been done in a heartbeat. Frankly, they could not care less about the people and history of anywhere else. If we speak out we are "moaning". I fear this important ship will either be scrapped or lost to Australia. Sat 27 Feb 2010 11:55:21 GMT+1 Liz http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html?page=44#comment4 The City of Adelaide should be brought back to Sunderland . 500 years of shipbuilding and we have so little to show. Peter Maddison is absolutely correct a tourist centre with the rebuild City of Adelaide at its centre could attract many visitors to the city. If it also included the parish church of Sunderland, Holy Trinity, a Grade 1 listed building the whole of the East End could be given a new lease of life. Many people can trace their ancestry back to the industries which once lined the river banks on both sides. I am not suggesting an exercise in looking back, tourism, family research and leisure facilities along a newly clean river. These are the expanding industries of now and the future. A new spirit of enterprise is needed. Wed 24 Feb 2010 18:17:56 GMT+1 Anthony Jukes http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html?page=33#comment3 To lose this ship, either to Australia or worse still, to demolition, would be a travesty. Not only would it serve to be another slap in the face to the people of the North East, but it would strengthen my opinion once more that London (or the magic circle as one man commented) would be more than happy to let the North East rot and languish in as much misery as 'our' precious Adelaide. £46 million to restore the Cutty Sark (half as much to build her from scratch)in time for the 2012 Olympics. "The historic clipper will once again be open to the public, and in pristine condition: yet another jewel for visitors in 2012 to enjoy." Says Gordon Brown. A jewel in the London Crown!!! Adelaide represents much, much more. Yet she is ignored as much as the people who love her and want her home. Tue 23 Feb 2010 12:11:04 GMT+1 DaveC http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html?page=22#comment2 The City of Adelaide ship is often quoted as being of the the same type as the Cutty Sark. She is not. The Cutty Sark was built to Lloyds rules for composite construction issued in 1867, to win tea races from China, which she never did. She was a dissapointment to her owner and bankrupted her designer. The City of Adelaide was labeled "experimental" and was the design of one Sunderland man, William Pile, who distrusted and despised the new science of shipbuilding. She set a record on her first run to Australia which took many years to better.She was built utilising 500 years of shipbuilding knowledge, passed down through apprenticeship, and the intuition of one man; a ship of the working class man.She was built to carry passengers, quickly, in class and comfort.If one regards the reports of her from her time, and the effection to which she is held by Australians, she did so in spades.She is the last ship in the world capable of bieng put back to sea for half of what has been spent on the Cutty Sark.It would be a crime if she were not saved, and a travesty if she were not put back to sea. England could have the oldest ocean going sailing ship in the world. Mon 22 Feb 2010 20:50:01 GMT+1 Mark Horseman http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html?page=11#comment1 To those who ask "Why bother? It's just an old wreck of a ship" I suggest they visit the SS Great Britain in Bristol, or it's website if you're not up to the trip, to see what can be achieved. A lasting monument to Sunderland's all but forgotten ship building heritage is long overdue. It is a shame that Lottery money is not available for as worthy a project as this, too far from London I suspect. Hopefully the people of the region will rally round, as they have so many times in the past, and secure the return of the Adelaide to her birth place on the Wear.Best of luck Peter in your efforts,Mark Horseman. Mon 22 Feb 2010 20:37:24 GMT+1 Kenneth Collins http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisjackson/2010/02/sunderland_campaign_to_rescue.html?page=0#comment0 The City of Adelaide is older than the Cutty Sark which is a Scotish ship, Adelaide is an English ship, or do we not class Sunderland as being English?This is a grade 1 listed ship, it is around 136 years old, built in 1864. If this ship is dismantled, the world will have lost a very important peice of maritime heritage. Sadly, our present government or even Sunderland council cares not one iota about saving this ship.Half a million pounds will bring this ship back to Sunderland, where 100's of thousands would greet it to come back, what an advertisment this could be for someone who could put the money up.Not to mention the revenue it would create by being a tourist attraction for many years to come. Why are millions of pounds still being thrown at the Cutty Sark, which is badly burnt, when this ship is in relatively good condition, and cannot attract even half a million? Shame on us all if we let this ship be lost forever.If this ship is dismantled, there will be no new Labour MP's in Sunderland come the election and I think the whole business stinks to high heaven.Ken Collins. Mon 22 Feb 2010 20:03:52 GMT+1