Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html en-gb 30 Thu 20 Nov 2014 22:58:21 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html Chryses http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=96#comment25 V Siva, (#24. At 4:43pm on 02 Feb 2011)”... More bad news, loss of life may surface as a result of the US's failure to force unpopular Mubarak to quit the job . . .”Are you recommending that the U.S. intervene in another nation’s political process to serve the U.S.’s interests? Thu 03 Feb 2011 00:55:10 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=92#comment24 24. At 4:43pm on 02 Feb 2011, V Siva wrote:"More bad news, loss of life may surface as a result of the US's failure to force unpopular Mubarak to quit the job."Such "logic!" After criticizing President Obama and previous presidents for interferance in the internal affairs of Egypt [and other countries] you and others now demand that he topple the Egyptian government.After years of criticizing American administrations for interfering in the internal affairs of Latin American cronies the same nonsensical comments were made.When the people of Honduras enforced their constitution against a possible power grab by a friend of Castro and Chavez, they were demanding that the US intervene and put THEIR leftist choice for leader in power. Pres. Obama refused [though he denounced the "irregular" change in government] and was condemned for not interfering to forward the leftist agenda.You are entitled to your opinions, but please be consistent. Or at least open about what you want, which is probably, "Don't interfere if we do not like it, but please interfere, maximally, if we tell you to [in order to further our agenda]!"Personally, I don't think the US, UK, India, China or any other state should interfere in the internal affairs of any other state. Left wing interference is no better than right wing interference, just look at Nazi puppet governments and Soviet puppet governments. When given a chance the people of those countries got rid of both.This my side = good, your side = bad, my interference = good, your interference = bad, in additional to being supremely hypocritical is not taking into account the wishes of the people of the target countries. It is undemocratic, and is precisely what you criticize [when the other side does it, of course!] Wed 02 Feb 2011 18:03:26 GMT+1 JusticeForAll http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=88#comment23 More bad news, loss of life may surface as a result of the US's failure to force unpopular Mubarak to quit the job. Now we hear that Mubarak regime has paid protesters to protest against the popular uprising and it only show how evil Mubarak is and this guy will not go until the final moment. Wed 02 Feb 2011 16:43:25 GMT+1 JusticeForAll http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=84#comment22 I doubt that Obama is a forceful leader who can achieve success and prevent tragedy.Obama was in power when the Rajapakse regime with the collaboration of the Indian regime committed war crimes against Tamils in Sri Lanka. Obama has done vertually nothing to prevent it. I believe that Obama preaches well but fails in action.It is tragedy that the UN could not prevented war crimes as well as unable to investigate it in Sri Lanka. Many believe that UN's failure to save lives, UN Staff Vijay Nambiar, another Indian and his brother was involved in business dealings with the Rajapakse regime.http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=54302The above link article provides the ability of the UN in resolving crisis. Wed 02 Feb 2011 16:39:58 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=80#comment21 At 04:11am on 02 Feb 2011, mabelwhite wrote:Nice I can dance to thatTry and dance to this, and tell me later what its meter is. ;-)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUYtWvavvYg Wed 02 Feb 2011 10:33:00 GMT+1 mabelwhite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=76#comment20 Nice I can dance to that Wed 02 Feb 2011 04:11:35 GMT+1 chronophobe http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=73#comment19 re: 15 mabelwhite Mabel I did enjoy that tune. As for music, I agree ... the more the better. Ya wanna dance? Wed 02 Feb 2011 02:13:22 GMT+1 Chryses http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=69#comment18 BienvenueEnLouisiana, (#9. At 9:51pm on 01 Feb 2011)”... I think Pres. Obama has done a good job so far of walking a very fine line; if this transition to a free democratic republic succeeds in Egypt due to the incredible bravery of the Egyptian people, I think it will be very good for his and Pres. Bush's legacy.”Yes, if the transition from President Mubarak to whatever follows concludes as smoothly as it has progressed to date, I’d say it went rather well, as these things go. Of course, that's a big 'if', but so far so good. Wed 02 Feb 2011 01:07:58 GMT+1 Chryses http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=65#comment17 quietoaktree, (#11. At 10:06pm on 01 Feb 2011)”America is trying to cut its losses ---at the expense of the Egyptian people --nothing more and nothing less ...”Why do you say that? Wed 02 Feb 2011 01:01:06 GMT+1 BienvenueEnLouisiana http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=61#comment16 quietoaktree, go back and read the sentence again for the conditional "if". I will even repost it here for your convenience:"...if this transition to a free democratic republic succeeds in Egypt due to the incredible bravery of the Egyptian people, I think it will be very good for [Pres. Obama's] and Pres. Bush's legacy."And yes, I do believe this. On the other hand, if this goes badly it will stain Pres. Obama's legacy. Remember, this is the N. American blog, not the Middle-East blog, and I am considering the political implications of a successful democratic revolution in Egypt to the President's legacy at home. Wed 02 Feb 2011 00:09:23 GMT+1 quietoaktree http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=57#comment15 Within the last 30 minutes Pro- Mubarak supporters are harassing the Cairo protestors. Tue 01 Feb 2011 22:56:30 GMT+1 mabelwhite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=53#comment14 There were self immolation protests in Algeria too.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/world/africa/18egypt.html?_r=1&ref=algeriaI hope they all get peace and balance in governmentwe need more music 'roun herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqIP5CeEK_c Tue 01 Feb 2011 22:56:26 GMT+1 crash http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=50#comment13 What differance doe's it make which corrupt muslim runs the country until people get tired off them and go into exile in the south of france or monaco. Tue 01 Feb 2011 22:36:51 GMT+1 rodidog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=46#comment12 This could be a hard decision for protestors to accept. Although, IMO, it’s possibly the best one in the long term. Except for Mubarak’s immediate ouster the protestors have achieved their intended goals. He is out and his son will not be taking over and supposedly the people will choose their next President in a free and fair election. By accepting Mubarak as a care taker Egypt can avoid any further economic damage and possibly see a peaceful transition of power. I think if the Egyptian military intended him to be removed earlier they would have done so. Tue 01 Feb 2011 22:32:49 GMT+1 quietoaktree http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=42#comment11 #9 BEL" I think it will be very good for his and Pres. Bush's legacy."WHAT ?--- Even an American would have trouble with that conclusion ! Tue 01 Feb 2011 22:14:02 GMT+1 quietoaktree http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=38#comment10 America is trying to cut its losses ---at the expense of the Egyptian people --nothing more and nothing less.The paymaster is willing to risk another civil war ! Tue 01 Feb 2011 22:06:21 GMT+1 quietoaktree http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=34#comment9 This post has been Removed Tue 01 Feb 2011 21:55:32 GMT+1 BienvenueEnLouisiana http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=30#comment8 So Mubarak has finally announced that he will leave after the next elections in September; his 30 year rule is at an end and the Egyptian Constitution will be amended to include term limits. If he had made this decision earlier, he might have gotten away with it, but it appears that the demonstrators have not rejoiced at this news because they do not trust him. I suppose the only thing left for Mubarak to do is resign as Nixon did and leave the government in the hands of an interim administration. I think Pres. Obama has done a good job so far of walking a very fine line; if this transition to a free democratic republic succeeds in Egypt due to the incredible bravery of the Egyptian people, I think it will be very good for his and Pres. Bush's legacy. Tue 01 Feb 2011 21:51:09 GMT+1 CMS http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=26#comment7 It wouldn't surprise me if this were a solution that was devised with Israel in mind. Israel has been vocal about the potential for Islamists to step in to fill any vacuum left by Mubarak's sudden departure. It is clear that Israel is comfortable with their current peaceful relationship with Egypt. The continuation of this peaceful relationship is in question with anyone other than Mubarak, if for no other reason that it's the devil they know. Keeping Mubarak in, even if in practice just a figurehead while reforms are begun by the new cabinet, would also be an example to other countries in the region (I believe the King of Jordan has just replaced his PM). If it is a successful but orderly transition, any countries in the region which are edging closer to protests, etc., would have an example OTHER than Tunisia to follow.Having said all that, Mubarak staying another week, never mind until September, might not be acceptable to the people protesting, as evidenced by a sign shown on BBC today:"Mubarak - which part of GET OUT you not [sic] understand" Tue 01 Feb 2011 21:45:55 GMT+1 readwriteandblue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=23#comment6 I think that his Decision to tell the protesters that he will stay in spite of the feeling towards him is hopefully only the 1st play here.It seems impossible that he could continue and not have Egypt suffer a complete collapse.The immediate responce by the crowd though expected, is just that immediate, but almost cetainly not the end. The danger perhaps now is how high the stakes have to be pushed by the protesters before he gets the message.I hate to say it but it now seems likely that the military must take over the country, not the best spot for the US Prez to be in.Siding with a foreign military to remove by force that contries President. Tue 01 Feb 2011 21:43:18 GMT+1 quietoaktree http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=19#comment5 After the experience of watching East Germany (DDR) fall, the time until September will be used by the Mubarak regime to erase evidence of the atrocities committed and the involvement of its international supporters and paymaster. Tue 01 Feb 2011 21:35:53 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=15#comment4 Dan Rather (a former liberal anchor of liberal left CBS) on Mubarak on CNNhttp://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/02/01/piers.morgan.dan.rather.cnn?hpt=T1 Tue 01 Feb 2011 21:20:40 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=11#comment3 That might be, perhaps an exciting news in a ME blog.Which this one is certainly not. At least formally.Unless there's a report that Mubarak is going to be replaced by Barack.[now that would at least have an American angle]P.S. Wake me up when there's a regime change in Iran or Syria.Otherwise - don't bother. Tue 01 Feb 2011 21:12:22 GMT+1 quietoaktree http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=7#comment2 If Mubarak stays until September, he, his cronies and America will have enough time to load the dice before the elections and cover up the crimes committed over the 30 years of oppression. Tue 01 Feb 2011 20:51:58 GMT+1 Scott0962 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=3#comment1 Mubarak is still acting as if he were in control, he doesn't seem to have yet grasped the situation or that his ability to influence the outcome of events there is dwindling very rapidly now. He can still choose whether the transition of power is peaceful or violent but he can no longer dictate the terms or the timing, that opportunity is gone. Tue 01 Feb 2011 20:48:31 GMT+1 MagicKirin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/is_the_white_house_expecting_b.html?page=0#comment0 Obama was in a no win situation on this one.If he stood by as he did in Iran he would be criticized by democracy activists.If he publicly urged Murburak to step down, he would be accused of intefering in another country affairs. Tue 01 Feb 2011 20:45:00 GMT+1