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Thu 23 Sep 2010 17:31:09 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=98#comment129 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise...and speaks for 1.7 billion moslems;"I like to leave in installments..You buy houses in installments I leave in installments...And I was refering to the experts and not the 1.7 billion muslims I speak for.."It seems to me you like to come back and live in a house after you've sold it to someone else. You'd be lucky if they don't charge you rent...or call the cops for you being in their house without their permission....unless they are among the 1.7 billion moslems you speak for. I'm sure they wouldn't object, after all you speak for them...and for a family so large and so many friends I can't dream of it.BTW, just the other day, didn't you say you spoke for 1.6 billion moslems? I must say I admire you having found another hundred million more of them to speak for in so short a time.I'm surprised to see you also recognized the state of Israel. I wasn't aware they'd fixed their borders yet. Wed 22 Sep 2010 17:23:25 GMT+1 qmrfc67 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=97#comment128 CADisagreeing with a lib (is that short for liberal or libertarian) does not make you a Nazi. Indiscriminately blowing the hell out of millions of people so you can steal their natural resources does.On a practical level if you blow the hell out of the place who's going to pump the oil? Do intend to occupy Iran with boots on the ground? Its as big as France and Germany combined and has 80 million people. We just don't have enough troops to do it. Don't take my word, ask the Pentagon,they will tell you a conventional invasion of Iran is not an option.What do you think China will do, they get a lot of oil from Iran and they own a lot of US Treasury bonds, or are you planning to drop the 82nd into Beijing and run China too? What happens to the world economy when the chaos sends oil prices to double or triple their present levels?What happens to Al Quaida recruiting among the 1.5 billion muslims you haven't bombed to hell?You think I'M the one not in touch with reality. You need to stop watching John Wayne movies. (I watch em all the time. Love em! bu I do realze they're Hollywood!) Wed 22 Sep 2010 15:05:56 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=96#comment127 I count 6 more of your postings on this thread since that one and I'm only up to #120. I'm not going to ask. Being as you are from the Middle East I would not understand.-------------------------------------------------------------------------I like to leave in installments..You buy houses in installments I leave in installments...And I was refering to the experts and not the 1.7 billion muslims I speak for.. Wed 22 Sep 2010 14:59:30 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=96#comment126 "It's bad enough that half the word thinks we're as bad as the Nazis, Let's not prove them right!"Why? They (European 'fellow travelers' ) are not going to change their opinion anyway.So we my just as well do it right.Once and for all. Wed 22 Sep 2010 11:02:57 GMT+1 CuriousAmerican http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=95#comment125 UN? blah....nothing Obama? blah...nothing there either...You want effective, real solutions....? That will take decades of hard work by dedicated and honest people with a mutual respect for each other that are willing to put their country's best interest ahead of their own personal agenda and power.....Translation......NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN....Lets get back to the reality of the human tragic comedy we call history can we?...The man with the biggest stick who is willing to use it will enforce his will as long as he can to his own advantage...Only after victory can their be "peace"...until someone else builds a bigger stick...repeat cycle.......Don't like this observation of the history of man?...Deal with it..."The truth will set you free...but first it's going to piss you off". Wed 22 Sep 2010 04:16:50 GMT+1 CuriousAmerican http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=94#comment124 124. At 03:58am on 22 Sep 2010, qmrfc67 wrote:MA11 "When it comes to Iran, why don't we just blow the whole place up and steal the oil for ourselves? The whole world blames us for things like that anyway, we might as well be guilty :-)"---------------It's bad enough that half the word thinks we're as bad as the Nazis, Let's not prove them right!----------------------------....oohhhh plllleeeeasseeeee.....If you disagree with a lib you are a NAZI mass-murdering spawn of satan....and ugly too..You libs are worse than children...grow up and be a part of the adult conversation...Is it just me or has anyone else notice this? Wed 22 Sep 2010 04:01:22 GMT+1 qmrfc67 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=93#comment123 MA11 "When it comes to Iran, why don't we just blow the whole place up and steal the oil for ourselves? The whole world blames us for things like that anyway, we might as well be guilty :-)"---------------It's bad enough that half the word thinks we're as bad as the Nazis, Let's not prove them right! Wed 22 Sep 2010 02:58:40 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=93#comment122 When it comes to Iran, why don't we just blow the whole place up and steal the oil for ourselves? The whole world blames us for things like that anyway, we might as well be guilty :-) Wed 22 Sep 2010 01:46:08 GMT+1 Josiah http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=92#comment121 I'm afraid that tougher sanctions and internal destabilization might lead to the very war between Iran and Israel most of us hope would never happen. Destabilizing a government, by any means, is a risky proposition. There was a time when the U.S. manipulated other countries like old men move chess pieces on their boards in the park. Our international policy cannot be run like that anymore, even through the guise of U.N. support. As an American, I worry that we are spreading ourselves too thin diplomatically and militarily. Sanctions are ineffective, but they buy time that war does not. I suppose all we can do as citizens of the world is hope, and pray, for the best. Wed 22 Sep 2010 01:29:21 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=91#comment120 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;Your Posting #105;"Now that I have hit a comfortable century on this thread, I will generously retreat and let the usual posters to post the usual posts to discuss upside down and downside up the usual lies until Mark Mardell opens a new thread..."I count 6 more of your postings on this thread since that one and I'm only up to #120. I'm not going to ask. Being as you are from the Middle East I would not understand.You said in #67;"Its for your own good that things which seems irrational to you about islam, should remain irrational...otherwise chances are when you start to make sense, you will over do."I accept that expanding that principle I should not try to understand why after saying you would withdraw from this blog thread you continued posting. If I try I might 'over do" and injure myself :-)BTW, in posting #48 you referred to the amorphous entity as "Israel" yourself not ascribing the name to soomeone else's posting;"Thats an easy questions..the experts pet answer is that Israel has not signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty therefore..."Since you told us the other day you speak for 1.4 billion Moslems, does that mean all of them now recognize Israel or was that just a slip? Aren't you worried that there might be reprecussions if you misrepresent them? Sometimes they can get angry if you say or write the wrong thing. Just ask Salman Rushdie if it isn't so. Tue 21 Sep 2010 23:52:53 GMT+1 LucyJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=90#comment119 Exactly the opposite, the world is just, the unjust obama wants to control the world and turn it into unjust like his own country..where laws are upheld and justice becomes Just-is..----------------------------------------------------------------------They don't call us the "Wild, wild west for nothing!!! :)Country crooners and cowboys and even Will Smith wrote a song about it... Tue 21 Sep 2010 23:12:13 GMT+1 LucyJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=90#comment118 colonel artist wrote: "Having not seen the Truth, they speak nonsense".------------------------------------------------------------------------Ignorance is bliss. Tue 21 Sep 2010 23:08:05 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=89#comment117 Where are you O Wild Deer?I have known you for a while, here.Both loners, both lost, both forsakenThe wild beast, for ambush, have all wakenLet us inquire of each other's stateIf we can, each other's wishes consummateI can see this chaotic fieldJoy and peace sometimes won't yieldO friends, tell me who braves the dangerTo befriend the forsaken, behold the strangerUnless blessed Elias may come one dayAnd with his good office open the wayThe english translations of hafiz kills the whole poems...The original persian version has its own joy.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 23:05:43 GMT+1 LucyJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=88#comment116 colonial wrote: It was one of my old ancestor who wanted to know exactly what is so good about it that the west was going nuts..----------------------------------------------------------------------The West is always going wild over something...and then something else...a continual cycle. It is amazing how many inventions- gidgets and gadgets that keep coming out, one right after the other. First it was the ipod, now it is ipod nano. First it is cell phone. Now it is super cell phones with gazillions of deluxe qualities. First it was the Internet. Now it is Facebook and so on. First there were books. Now there are Kindle and so on. ALthough personally when I read I love to feel the book in my hand. But all the inventions are really awesome. And something tells me there are many, many more USA inventions to come. I have heard some say USA is slowing down invention wise. Not true. USA is accelerating into the future and we continue to expand every day. :)Anyway, colonelartist, that's when the old phrase comes in, "Don't judge a book by its cover."Its like the movies nominated for Oscars and so on are supposed to be the very best, yet when it comes to that time, usually only half are really that good. It is up to every person to sift through it all.I love renting movies at the video store the old fashioned way. Have to admit that the description is sometimes better than the movie and vice versa. Love that there are so many different movies to choose from. That is USA- variety mixed with tradition and core values. Tue 21 Sep 2010 23:05:28 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=87#comment115 No, I have servants who read them for me...Ofcourse I read them..and your point is what? The rubbish book I had no intention of reading...It was one of my old ancestor who wanted to know exactly what is so good about it that the west was going nuts..I travel longitudenally and latitudenly across earth, was asked to bring the book for him, I did, and was again asked to read it and summerize it for him, i did that, and when I started to tell him, he said he flipped through it, it was rubbish, and he had no intention of reading the rubbish in his old age.. and that I didnt have to tell him...as he had no time to listen to rubbish in his old age..------------------------------------------------------------------------I must say I had a lot of fun, "discussing the book" with the westerners..I would let them talk about it, at first giving them the kind of answers they expected from a muslim, then, they would always fall in the trap of "how can you comment when you havent read the book" or something like that, and then I used to say that i have, and then ask them what exactly did the like about it and why, and to make long story short, it wasnt me who ended up being upset or verbally violent or stoop to the low levels... Tue 21 Sep 2010 22:59:31 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=87#comment114 Kind of thought that'd be your answer - the textural equivalent of hiding behind women and children.-------------------------------------------------------------------------So, you knew I was going to say, ask Mracus? that I get tired of repeating myself...Allow me to salute to your amazing ability to predict my posts, not even I know what the final shape of my posts would be,when I start writing them..and here you are, knower of my mind...Next time, dont ask and I will not tell...Will save a lot of blog place.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 22:53:41 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=86#comment113 President Obama has made the mistake of seeking justice in an unjust world lead by people controlled by those who benefit from injustice.-------------------------------------------------------------------------Exactly the opposite, the world is just, the unjust obama wants to control the world and turn it into unjust like his own country..where laws are upheld and justice becomes Just-is.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 22:48:58 GMT+1 LucyJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=85#comment112 60 MAII wrote: What does convincing a girl to become a nun tell us...unless this is some oblique joke that is not relevant to the discussion. Oh wait, maybe this does give us insight into the Islamic mind after all :-)-------------------------------------------------------------------------I guess she would rather become a nun than the other alternative...I can't blame her. I would rather be a nun than marry into slavery, as well. That grrrl made a smart choice. Tue 21 Sep 2010 22:43:06 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=84#comment111 Yet you read his books.-------------------------------------------------------------------------No, I have servants who read them for me...Ofcourse I read them..and your point is what? The rubbish book I had no intention of reading...It was one of my old ancestor who wanted to know exactly what is so good about it that the west was going nuts..I travel longitudenally and latitudenly across earth, was asked to bring the book for him, I did, and was again asked to read it and summerize it for him, i did that, and when I started to tell him, he said he flipped through it, it was rubbish, and he had no intention of reading the rubbish in his old age.. and that I didnt have to tell him...as he had no time to listen to rubbish in his old age.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 22:37:27 GMT+1 filthy macnasty http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=83#comment110 "75. At 8:38pm on 21 Sep 2010, Philly-Mom wrote:Some odd thoughts:About Nuclear ArmsNuclear power seems to be a practical energy source in a world that is sucking more and more energy with each passing computer. And, if a nation has nuclear power, they'll have 'nuclear weapon' capabilities. Right?So... how long can any "WE" (no matter who you are) keep 'nuclear power' away from any particular "THEM" (no matter who they are)? Really?"Thorium reactors work just fine and you can't use them to make nuclear weapons. Period."About American HikersThey are bargaining chips. It's sad, but it's true. I don't care where they were hiking or how Iran captured them, but Iran has a great opportunity to work towards amicable relations with the west by handing over those two dudes."Poking known nut-cases in the eye is usually a bad idea. I don't buy their innocent tourists line. Neither do I buy the nut-cases' hysterical 'spys' nonsense. I see a trio of kumbayah singers who thought they'd make a point. I see it as backfiring on them and making the whole situation worse."Rough YearIn some ways, Iran may have picked a rough year to pick on the USA. Sure, Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize (Commander In Peace??? Right.), but his domestic approval scores aren't the greatest right now, and playing hard ball with Iran might look good for his re-election. I'm not saying he's going to incite WWIII, but I imagine he'd be okay with applying some gentle... pressure."Personally - and I'm sure the moderator will bounce it - I think the answer is simple and sure. The nutters can build whatever they want.We announce that if one of their toys gets used on us or a friend - BY ANYONE - we respond in kind to the party who built the toy and to whoever used it.Then we sit back and wait. Eventually someone is going to get glow in the dark glass bottom swimming pools."So... Meh.Once again, I'm glad I don't run the country.I have a hard enough time keeping the family running on schedule without someone forgetting their homework or loosing a lunch box. Dealing with Iran is waaaaaaay out of my league."I wish someone was running the country. All I see are people dead set on destroying whatever is left. Tue 21 Sep 2010 22:22:22 GMT+1 ghostofsichuan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=83#comment109 What are the options...a nuclear Iran? There are factions in every government and the internal politics of Iran remain a mystery and it is difficult to know who to trust. What has been witnessed is that most governments fear terrorism but are unwilling to stand up in a public way and put resources toward combating the threat. This weakness has been an encouragement to terrorist. Other countries are very willing to let the U.S. appear to be going it alone. The Iranian people will ultimately decide the matter but it would certainly be helpful if the rest of the world was to encourage some transition and not let this appear to be a U.S. versus Iran.We live in a time of weak world leadership, corrupt bankers and business interests over-riding democratic ideals. People will require changes or suffer the consequences..it is the way of the world. Problems are encountered and resolved or they don't go away. Concession is not the same as compromise. President Obama has made the mistake of seeking justice in an unjust world lead by people controlled by those who benefit from injustice. The Western world stands by with their torches like bishops ready to burn Joan D'Arc. Tue 21 Sep 2010 22:20:38 GMT+1 LucyJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=82#comment108 Finally, some good news, thanks to the Republicans...Good job, Repubs! Way to stay strong and please keep up the good work!!!http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gays_militaryThis is a very positive sign for the future of USA overall... Tue 21 Sep 2010 22:20:17 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=81#comment107 And since its Iran and so it should be Hafiz,Yet since the earliest time that man has sought To comb the locks of Speech, his goodly bride, Not one, like Hafiz, from the face of Thought Has torn the veil of Ignorance aside. This verse alone is enough as a reply to all anti irans, from top to bottom.."Having not seen the Truth, they speak nonsense". Tue 21 Sep 2010 22:16:54 GMT+1 filthy macnasty http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=80#comment106 "71. At 8:23pm on 21 Sep 2010, colonelartist wrote:What do you think the response would be if any of the people you defend actually managed to detonate a nuclear weapon in an American or European city? Or released a Bio Weapon or launched a Chemical Weapons attack and killed hundreds of thousands or millions of our civilians - and then Celebrated those deaths all across the Islamic world - like they did last time?That's a serious question Colonel and I'd like you to answer it honestly if you can.------------------------------------------------------------------------I dont answer the make believe scenarios,because I dont indulge in this pass time..If and would be , could be, dont exist in my mind...That which is reality is what I focus on..I dont create a problem where there is no problem, I dont like anxiety and I dont paranoia..I have already justified Kurd and their gassing...Repeating it will be quite boring..Ask Marcus.."Kind of thought that'd be your answer - the textural equivalent of hiding behind women and children. Tue 21 Sep 2010 22:11:15 GMT+1 SaintDominick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=80#comment105 Ref 95, BluesBerryOur presidents don't have to engage in open or close debates with leaders of other countries to discuss American policy, particularly when the person calling for an open engagement is irrelevant to world affairs.British, French and Spanish monarchs did not engage in debates to justify or explain their policies or actions, they defended their interests by setting policies and taking actions designed to protect them and, whenever possible, expand them. The Romans, Greek and everyone else did the same during their golden years, why should we be any different? Yes, we do not have a totalitarian form of government, which is why we debate foreign policy extensively at home before we implement it, but that doesn't mean we have to roll over every time an insignificant minion doesn't like what we are doing. We support freedom and democracy and often intervene in the internal affairs of other nations to stop tyranny, in addition to the considerations cited above, but we do that when WE decide that it is the right thing to do or when WE decide such action is in our best interest, not when people like Mr. Ahmadinejad want.I am in favor of withdrawing from all Muslim countries, from Western Europe, Japan and every other country where we have military bases, in part because I do not believe we should be the policemen of the world, because I believe such withdrawal would help restore harmony or at least tolerance, but also because the deployment of US troops throughout the world is economiacally unsustainable. Quite frankly, we could achieve the same geopolitical goals by strategically deploying our NAVY and long range aircraft to areas of interest, and by using satellite intelligence to gather information and use it when necessary, preferably with long range robotic systems. Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:58:55 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=79#comment104 Now that I have hit a comfortable century on this thread, I will generously retreat and let the usual posters to post the usual posts to discuss upside down and downside up the usual lies until Mark Mardell opens a new thread... Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:56:51 GMT+1 filthy macnasty http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=78#comment103 "70. At 8:18pm on 21 Sep 2010, colonelartist wrote:Edward R. Murrow died when I was a kid. Can't think of any famous journalists since then. Lots of hacks pretending...-------------------------------------------------------------------------Are you a few yrs old? In that case, you shouldnt interefere in the adult's conversation..."(laughter) Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:49:21 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=77#comment102 If that is your idea of a democratic form of government, please make sure you keep it in your neck of the woods and away from ours. ------------------------------------------------------------------------And this comes from someone whose country forced a lame democracy on afghanistan...Talk about making mockery of your own system in broad day light all the way across the globe...leading ordinary and under ordinary people in afghanistan to make fun of your system and over ordinary people also make fun of it by commiting fraud right under your noses...You didnt find ben laden, but you made a mockery of your system.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:47:58 GMT+1 filthy macnasty http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=77#comment101 "59. At 7:44pm on 21 Sep 2010, colonelartist wrote:Who shall we bring into the discussion? Salman Rushdie?-------------------------------------------------------------------------Can you name, and without doing the google, his first novel which hardly anyone knows because it was a total flop? He is just a writer, who writes that which sells...Living in england, his first book a total flop, he gets a idea to write something that catered the market, the british market, so he writes a book on india from the point of view of the british raaj, the book got banned in india, as it should have been, the guy got famous, next he expands to islam, again the market's demand, because of what was happening in iran...I didnt like his first book, didnt like his book on india and didnt like his most nortious book, didnt like the next book he wrote, and then learnt from expearnce that he is just a ruggish writer...outside his adopted country..Didnt actually like a few things he said about another jamaican born indian writer who won nobel price...unfortunately didnt like that author either, not because of his writings but because of something he said and did, before he wrote the book he got noble prize for..."Yet you read his books. Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:44:07 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=76#comment100 American nuclear weapons are very safe. They only go off when we want them to. -------------------------------------------------------------------------USS Hampton Failed to do Daily Safety Checks onShip's Nuclear Reactor for Month and Falsified Recordshttp://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2007/USS-Hampton-Nuclear22oct07.htmhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSWAT00960720080606Gates said two incidents -- the shipment of nuclear missile fuses to Taiwan and the cross-country flight by an Air Force bomber wrongly armed with nuclear weapons -- exposed a systemic problem in the Air Force and an erosion of nuclear standards."Both the ... nuclear weapons transfer incident and the Taiwan misshipment, while different in specifics, have a common origin -- the gradual erosion of nuclear standards and a lack of effective oversight by Air Force leadership," he told reporters. Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:42:52 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=75#comment99 With our weapons on board SSBN`s Al-Qaeda had better recruit their bestswimmers for that job,How long can one hold your breath whilst sportinga turban???.Getting your hash wet will be the least of your problems... -------------------------------------------------------------------------And you really think that it would be some alqaida member? a terrorist could be anyone... Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:38:11 GMT+1 filthy macnasty http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=74#comment98 "44. At 6:38pm on 21 Sep 2010, Englishmaninvegas wrote:""We need to take a step back here ..."I'm sitting down."Why is it OK for US (both Brits and Americans) to have nuclear weapons - and PLEASE don't insult my intelligence by saying we are the good-guys"Because we're the Good-Guys."Events over the past 10 years in particular clearly show that we are not"Your opinion."Any whilst we are on this subject - why is it OK for Israel to have nuclear weapons without threatening to bomb them into oblivion ?"Because without the threat the Moslem's would finish the job Hitler started. "Don't get me wrong here - I have NO desire at all to see ANY new country with a capability of using such terrible weapons - but the stink of hypocrisy here is almost unbearable....."Hold your nose. Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:37:31 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=74#comment97 Yes, those green flags waved by Iranian protesters stand for something different than what many Westerners believe, but what is evident to even the most obtuse or ambivalent human being on planet Earth is that the people that were murdered, arrested, and abused during the demonstrations that took place a few months ago were not supporting the current regime as you would like us to believe, they were condemning it and its abuses of power and they paid dearly for their audacity. ------------------------------------------------------------------------Ahmedinijad won, the opposition lost..they tried to topple the elected government through unfair and undemocratic ways, you liked it, therefore you still sympathsize with them...Next time, if your party loses in elections, you can try the same tactic and see if your police dont react the same way, especially if you start breaking the government property and both public and private transportation...Look at yourselves, afghanistan again had elections under your watch, again fraud, and so far silence on your part... Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:36:21 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=73#comment96 ukawailee;"With our weapons on board SSBN`s"As I recall somone posting, Britain's nuclear weapons are safely stored sound and secure in Georgia USA. That leaves the French nuclear weapons to worry about. If they are designed like their cars, they just might zig when they are supposed to zag. What an explosion that could cause. Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:21:41 GMT+1 crash http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=72#comment95 Sanctions will never work against Iran for 2 reasons,1, Russia and some of our western allies and other arab countries will continue to trade with Iran.2,This is not a real democracy with an armed population we are talking about here,these people have no way to fight back against tyranny.B.O. i am sure will give some kind of two faced half apologetic speech saying he's sorry we are so mean. Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:12:32 GMT+1 BluesBerry http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=71#comment94 No, I don't believe that the US Government really believes its economic sanctions are working in Iran.If President Obama uses his speech on Thursday to stress that it's not America that has a quarrel with Iran; it's the whole international community that has a quarrel with Iran, I for one would like a list of those international communities. If the door is open to engagement, why doesn't Obama - a great orator - accept the Iranian President's invitation to debate the issues openly - even before the General Assembly?No, the door is not open unless the Americans get their way. A better relationship with America means a more subservient relationship with America.How come Iran has to demonstrate its commitment to show peaceful intent around its nuclear program and to meet its obligations to the international community whereas no such obligations are placed on Israel? Does Obama not see this injustice? Does he think that the international community does not see this injustice?The liklihood of the Iranian president walking through that door to engage the United States of America is about as certain that Obama will agree to an open debate. I sure would like to see that!The US ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice is mistaken; the cost of the sanctions to Iran are significant, but not concrete and certainly not meaningful. As for her expectation that these measures will increasingly influence the course that the Iranian decision-makers pursue, who is she referring to? Who does she think has all this decision-making power within Iran? Is she hoping for a green revolution built around Twitter?Haul Ahmadinejad into line? off the stage??Dream on!American intelligence on this iussue is about as good as its intelligence on 9/11 or Mumbai, or Iraq (having weapons of mass destruction). Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:10:43 GMT+1 hms_shannon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=70#comment93 Allow me to broaden your horizon of anxiety...if terrorists are future nuclear threats then the next question is where will these terrorists get the nuclear weapons from...Its unlikely and impossible that they will smuggle such weapons into the country..the only option is to get nuclear thingies from the country itself...You should be as scared of your own nuclear weapons as you are with irans...------------------With our weapons on board SSBN`s Al-Qaeda had better recruit their bestswimmers for that job,How long can one hold your breath whilst sportinga turban???.Getting your hash wet will be the least of your problems... Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:06:29 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=70#comment92 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"It is democratic...People vote every fifth yr..from bottom to top, You have your own dealing and wealing of the candidates with both parties before they can stand as candidates within their parties, iran has its own system.Before Iran can become a democratic country, it will have to become far more skillful at rigging elections. Last year's brutality spoke of a system which is so barbaric and primitive it was the joke of the world. Even Thailand handled theirs better than Iran. Perhaps they'd be better off if they had a Supreme Court like we did in 2000. That way elections can be stolen fair and square."You should be as scared of your own nuclear weapons as you are with irans."Your ZPD zone not withstanding I'll try to educate you. American nuclear weapons are very safe. They only go off when we want them to. You must know exactly what you are doing. If you get it wrong even once, the weapon is designed to never be able to be detonated again. Fortunately Moslem psychiatrists in the military in Texas do not have access to or knowledge of detonating American nucleaer weapons. At least they don't get them from us. I wonder if the US military is smart enough to thoroughly investigate those who do. You never know. Tue 21 Sep 2010 21:02:42 GMT+1 MagicKirin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=69#comment91 ref #90 colonelartist wrote:Many people think that the most likely source of any future nuclear attack would be from terrorists of some kind. As witnessed by the events of 9/11 - these people WANT to die. The UK having its own nuclear weapons would have no effect at all.....Agreed.------------------------------------------------------------------------Allow me to broaden your horizon of anxiety...if terrorists are future nuclear threats then the next question is where will these terrorists get the nuclear weapons from...Its unlikely and impossible that they will smuggle such weapons into the country..the only option is to get nuclear thingies from the country itself...You should be as scared of your own nuclear weapons as you are with irans..._____________-Then let an unveiled lesbian atheist run. See if that works. Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:59:10 GMT+1 SaintDominick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=68#comment90 Ref 85, colonelartist"You dont like their system, too bad, but its none of your bussiness.."You are absolutely right, the Iranian form of government is none of my business and to be perfectly candid with you I could care less whether ir collapses or remains in place. My post referred strictly to the comment you made insinuated that the Iranian form of government is democratic.Yes, those green flags waved by Iranian protesters stand for something different than what many Westerners believe, but what is evident to even the most obtuse or ambivalent human being on planet Earth is that the people that were murdered, arrested, and abused during the demonstrations that took place a few months ago were not supporting the current regime as you would like us to believe, they were condemning it and its abuses of power and they paid dearly for their audacity. If that is your idea of a democratic form of government, please make sure you keep it in your neck of the woods and away from ours. Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:58:53 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=67#comment89 Many people think that the most likely source of any future nuclear attack would be from terrorists of some kind. As witnessed by the events of 9/11 - these people WANT to die. The UK having its own nuclear weapons would have no effect at all.....Agreed.------------------------------------------------------------------------Allow me to broaden your horizon of anxiety...if terrorists are future nuclear threats then the next question is where will these terrorists get the nuclear weapons from...Its unlikely and impossible that they will smuggle such weapons into the country..the only option is to get nuclear thingies from the country itself...You should be as scared of your own nuclear weapons as you are with irans... Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:36:41 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=67#comment88 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"I am getting tired of doing vgotsky's zone of proximal development with you..."Well how about Zeno's paradox then? He's the Greek who became famous when he said; you can't get there from here.From Wikipedia;The zone of proximal development, often abbreviated ZPD, is the difference between what a learner can do without help and what he or she can do with help. It is a concept developed by Soviet psychologist and social constructivist Lev Vygotsky (1896 – 1934)."the distance between the actual developmental level as determined by independent problem solving and the level of potential development as determined through problem solving under adult guidance, or in collaboration with more capable peers"Yes this is a waste of time. I can't "larn ya nothin' :-)" Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:32:13 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=66#comment87 What your obamas and the rest dont tell you is that the opposition in iran the green party or green revolutionists whose green color you generaously assume to be envirnomentalists...(clever of them) may oppose the government due to difference in how to deal internal matters, their position on nuclear power plants is the same as that of "ayatollahs" and the government...that iran has a right to use nuclear energy as a source because it doesnt want to be only dependent on its natural resources.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:31:24 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=65#comment86 Allow me to remind you what your leaders also say about about iraq and afghanistan..that the democracies practiced over there will be and are different than democracy in usa...You and your leaders should start practising say this for iranian democracy as well...with time, they will have no problem accepting it... Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:26:32 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=64#comment85 Englishmaninvegas;"Most of us who live here aren't gamblers"Oh really? Noel Coward wrote that only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the noonday sun. In Las Vegas, the Noonday sun is sometimes 120 degrees and that is BEFORE global warming. If that isn't a gamble then what about the risk that one day you'll wake up and there won't be any water there? Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:23:04 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=64#comment84 Insinuating that the Iranian form of government is democratic is one of the most bizarre statements you have made since you joined this blog. The Islamic form of government that is in place in Iran today is the anti-thesis of the democratic principles advocated by Solon, Cleisthenes, Aristotle and Plato over two millennia ago. -------------------------------------------------------------------------It is democratic...People vote every fifth yr..from bottom to top, You have your own dealing and wealing of the candidates with both parties before they can stand as candidates within their parties, iran has its own system...If you go into details, even your democracy is antithesis of democracies advocated by these philosophers and as proved by socrates..You dont like their system, too bad, but its none of your bussiness.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:22:43 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=63#comment83 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"Its for your own good that things which seems irrational to you about islam, should remain irrational...otherwise chances are when you start to make sense, you will over do.."And they say the orientals are inscrutable. Whoever said that never met an Middle Easterner. Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:20:15 GMT+1 ann arbor http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=62#comment82 I do hope Imam Obama says something significant. Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:18:11 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=61#comment81 but Iran has a great opportunity to work towards amicable relations with the west by handing over those two dudes.-------------------------------------------------------------------------Did usa ever apologized and paid compensation to the families of victims who died in a plane crash hit by american navy? Or does it still blame the iranian pilot for making the navy hit the plane... Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:17:28 GMT+1 hms_shannon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=61#comment80 69. At 8:17pm on 21 Sep 2010, Englishmaninvegas wrote:A lady panelist hit the nail squarely on the head by saying that the UK having such weapons was really all about us going around the world with a big willie ! (her words....)That did make me smile,I think her words say more about her than the problem of N/weapons,some people are never happy with the way they are.----------------------- The real issue is - deterring who ???With the greatest respect,that is not the issue.The real issue is how do we get shot of them all.Its cowardly to leave all dis-ions to the Americans by uni laterally disarming.------------------It is probably also a desperate attempt to retain our place as a permenant member of the UN Security Council, despite our relative place in the world of 2010There are some very talented & knowledgeable people in the UK.With usgone would it really enhance that place ?.. ------------------Many people think that the most likely source of any future nuclear attack would be from terrorists of some kind. As witnessed by the events of 9/11 - these people WANT to die. The UK having its own nuclear weapons would have no effect at all..... Agreed. Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:15:33 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=60#comment79 I'm not saying he's going to incite WWIII, but I imagine he'd be okay with applying some gentle... pressure. -------------------------------------------------------------------------The world is at war for the third time..call it that or give it another name, but its a world war...If you are thinking a rerun of ww1 or ww2 then, let me assure you, its not going to happen...the gound reality has changed and so should the naratives as well...Its an age of controlled world wars.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:08:56 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=59#comment78 About American HikersThey are bargaining chips. It's sad, but it's true. I don't care where they were hiking or how Iran captured them, but Iran has a great opportunity to work towards amicable relations with the west by handing over those two dudes.-------------------------------------------------------------------------America has made them into bargaining chips..Now, tell me, how many humans are rotting in your jails for illegally entering your country? To you it may seem as iran has this opportunity of greatness, to iran its just a matter of non iranians entering the country illegally...Atleast it doesnt have a special guantanamobay facilities for the kidnapped people rounded up from all over the country.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:03:20 GMT+1 SaintDominick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=58#comment77 Ref 43, colonelartistInsinuating that the Iranian form of government is democratic is one of the most bizarre statements you have made since you joined this blog. The Islamic form of government that is in place in Iran today is the anti-thesis of the democratic principles advocated by Solon, Cleisthenes, Aristotle and Plato over two millennia ago. In fact, Iran's form of government is more in line with a classic oligarchy where powerful men and their supporters elect their rulers and make policy without input from the populace or a constitution to set the structure needed to governm in a democratic society.Calling a country governed by a Supreme Ayatollah, Mullahs and Imams a democracy is an insult to Western civilization, democracy, constitutional rights and everything that is of value in a free society. Tue 21 Sep 2010 20:00:04 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=58#comment76 But Jesus didn't speak to me and you must admit that except for a very small percentage of the population, most of the people who live in the Middle East are Moslem. My mistake to confuse them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------This sort of will writing is older than jesus..BCs yrs old...Practice however only in the area where people decided to go back in history...A backward migration..Genius..you should understand now..I am getting tired of doing vgotsky's zone of proximal development with you... Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:46:28 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=57#comment75 BTW, you never did answer my question about the Fatwa on Rushdie ------------------------------------------------------------------------When he was writing the book, he knew exactly what that would lead to..including the fatwa as well..By the way, the book was pure rubbish..it was distasteful and degrading..he in his mind tried to do a monty pyton or whatever you call that, but ended up making a mockery of himself....A complete waste of abilities..His book on india was even more pathetic...The guy never could and will probably never get rid of the inferiorty complex that many like him, in brtian go through...In india, such people are called, the brown sahebs..to fit in the english, they mock their own culture the way british used to do...the guy is like a crow, who tries to walk like a flamingo and in trying to do so, forgets his own gait.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:38:48 GMT+1 Philly-Mom http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=56#comment74 Some odd thoughts:About Nuclear ArmsNuclear power seems to be a practical energy source in a world that is sucking more and more energy with each passing computer. And, if a nation has nuclear power, they'll have 'nuclear weapon' capabilities. Right? So... how long can any "WE" (no matter who you are) keep 'nuclear power' away from any particular "THEM" (no matter who they are)? Really?About American HikersThey are bargaining chips. It's sad, but it's true. I don't care where they were hiking or how Iran captured them, but Iran has a great opportunity to work towards amicable relations with the west by handing over those two dudes.Rough YearIn some ways, Iran may have picked a rough year to pick on the USA. Sure, Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize (Commander In Peace??? Right.), but his domestic approval scores aren't the greatest right now, and playing hard ball with Iran might look good for his re-election. I'm not saying he's going to incite WWIII, but I imagine he'd be okay with applying some gentle... pressure. So... Meh.Once again, I'm glad I don't run the country. I have a hard enough time keeping the family running on schedule without someone forgetting their homework or loosing a lunch box. Dealing with Iran is waaaaaaay out of my league. Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:38:16 GMT+1 Englishmanininvegas http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=55#comment73 Marcus - your responses remind me of an old Monty Python skitEric Idle was a game show contestant who introduced himself as 'Mr Smoke-Too-Much'Michael Palin played the host and laughingly said - 'well you'd better cut down a little', as if this had never been said beforeYes I live in Vegas - and this make come as a real shock to you so stand-by:Most of us who live here aren't gamblersOn the substance of this debate - I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:31:19 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=54#comment72 I don't know about violence but for me you are inciting a lot of laughter. -------------------------------------------------------------------------Exactly....and before they know what really is happening, they get all incitefull towards violance... Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:30:13 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=54#comment71 66. At 8:05pm on 21 Sep 2010, MarcusAureliusIIYou confuse the entity and usa with Iran...Its the entity who goes into international seas, attack a so called free gaza, cuts down trees from other side of border...usa which snatches people from here and there...Projecting all this on to iran, is not the solution... Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:27:06 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=53#comment70 What do you think the response would be if any of the people you defend actually managed to detonate a nuclear weapon in an American or European city? Or released a Bio Weapon or launched a Chemical Weapons attack and killed hundreds of thousands or millions of our civilians - and then Celebrated those deaths all across the Islamic world - like they did last time?That's a serious question Colonel and I'd like you to answer it honestly if you can.------------------------------------------------------------------------I dont answer the make believe scenarios,because I dont indulge in this pass time..If and would be , could be, dont exist in my mind...That which is reality is what I focus on..I dont create a problem where there is no problem, I dont like anxiety and I dont paranoia..I have already justified Kurd and their gassing...Repeating it will be quite boring..Ask Marcus.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:23:46 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=52#comment69 Edward R. Murrow died when I was a kid. Can't think of any famous journalists since then. Lots of hacks pretending...-------------------------------------------------------------------------Are you a few yrs old? In that case, you shouldnt interefere in the adult's conversation... Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:18:00 GMT+1 Englishmanininvegas http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=51#comment68 To ukwales (#57) - there was a very interesting discussion topic on last week's R4 Any Questions program on the UK and nuclear weapons, when the question was posed as to whether we should upgrade our deterrentA lady panelist hit the nail squarely on the head by saying that the UK having such weapons was really all about us going around the world with a big willie ! (her words....)It is probably also a desperate attempt to retain our place as a permenant member of the UN Security Council, despite our relative place in the world of 2010The real issue is - deterring who ???Many people think that the most likely source of any future nuclear attack would be from terrorists of some kind. As witnessed by the events of 9/11 - these people WANT to die. The UK having its own nuclear weapons would have no effect at all..... Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:17:12 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=51#comment67 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"Dont worry, First they will have to try to speak hatefully so that I incite the violance...I can easily incite others to incite violance without them even knowing what really happen.."I don't know about violence but for me you are inciting a lot of laughter. "I said, it was middle eastern, and I gave you the hint that Jesus would have understood exactly what I meant"And so you did, that is exactly what you said. But Jesus didn't speak to me and you must admit that except for a very small percentage of the population, most of the people who live in the Middle East are Moslem. My mistake to confuse them. BTW, you never did answer my question about the Fatwa on Rushdie and you probably haven't read my question about the hikers yet. I hope you can give us some insight into it. Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:16:09 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=50#comment66 The lesson of the story is, sometimes some people should be left with their own beliefs, otherwise, they over do it....Its for your own good that things which seems irrational to you about islam, should remain irrational...otherwise chances are when you start to make sense, you will over do..Remember, not every one can be like the one particular emperor of ethiopia who lived during the times of Mohammad... Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:14:29 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=49#comment65 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"He is just a writer, who writes that which sells...Living in england"There was another guy who did the same thing, I think his name was Willie. Yeah, that was it, Willie Shakespeare. He also wrote what he thought would sell. (A lot of writers do BTW. How very mercenary of them, dontcha think?) So what about the Fatwa? Ooops, that's off limits. We can only talk about how Iran treats the US and Rushdie was not an American. Do you think the American hikers they took prisoner were just lost or were spies? According to one report I think on BBC, Iraqis who were there, Kurds as I recall said that the Iranians crossed the border and went into Iraqi territory to capture them. The woman who was freed would never make that accusation so long as her friends are still being held in captivity. Do you think the UK Royal Marines who were captured in 2007 were in Iraqi waters as they claimes or in Iranian territory? Seems to happen a lot. Perhaps Iran should put up a sign to show spies where the border is so they will know where to cross. Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:05:29 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=48#comment64 If you can't explain the Islamic thought process to us, could you explain your own insofar as it pertains to your will you spoke of? -------------------------------------------------------------------------Who said it was an islamic thought process, I said, it was middle eastern, and I gave you the hint that Jesus would have understood exactly what I meant...People who dont know A and B of middle eastern culture or any other culture, would think that rushdies books are worth reading and liking is something I have problems in understanding since the day his publishers published his book on indian culture.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 19:02:55 GMT+1 filthy macnasty http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=48#comment63 "25. At 3:35pm on 21 Sep 2010, colonelartist wrote:filthy macnasty wrote:(snipped)"Tell me, is it true that everytime americans lie they get increased two pints of blood in their circulation, and everytime americans believe in lies, they get one pint increase in their blood?"Yes. (what the heck, the Red Cross would like it...)"Now, prove that iranian government has ever said that they are going for atom bomb?"They can say they're making glow-in-the-dark tea cozies and I still won't believe them."And now I generously refer you to prove where saddam said after gulf war that he was making wmds?"Check with the Syrian's, they've probably got an inventory you can get a copy of to read."Explore that whole internet, from 91 to 2003 and if you come up with anything that supports your rubbish claim then post it"Um, my time machine seems to have packed up, can I borrow yours?"..If not, then keep quiet..atleast on internantional blogs and forums"Pay for my internet access and I'll agree you have some say over how I use it. Until then..."..Because spreading lies amongst yourself is one thing, but spreading lies on an international blogs is quite a different"(Holds up large mirror for CA's use.)"..This is not a UN where obama and the rest can stand poker faced and spread lies"(big grin) Nah, it's BBC where anti-Americanism rules and Danging all Americans to Heck is SOP."..Here your lies will be challanged and disected"'challenged' and 'dissected' 'eh? Hmm. When?"...And you will have to prove and explain everything you claim"After you, dear Colonel. After you. I shan't hold my breath... "..Utter nonsense maybe accepted as full of sense in usa, but outside it, the nonsense remains a nonsense..until otherwise proved"Null data. Try again?"..Saddam was asked directly in an interview by one of your famous journalist, and he directly denied such rumors"Edward R. Murrow died when I was a kid. Can't think of any famous journalists since then. Lots of hacks pretending..."...At that time, your standpoint was that he lied...and you insisted that he had wmd"Thousands of Kurds died of Pixie Dust Poisoning? News to me. (and someone really needs to get a hold of Disney and get those darn pixies under control...)"..You all acted like blair, wrong in the belief, but still insist that belief was correct.."I'll be serious here Colonel.What do you think the response would be if any of the people you defend actually managed to detonate a nuclear weapon in an American or European city? Or released a Bio Weapon or launched a Chemical Weapons attack and killed hundreds of thousands or millions of our civilians - and then Celebrated those deaths all across the Islamic world - like they did last time?That's a serious question Colonel and I'd like you to answer it honestly if you can. Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:58:21 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=47#comment62 BTW, speaking hatefully about religions including Islam is not a crime in the USA either so if you are easily incited to violence by such talk, I'd avoid visithing here. You never know what you might hear. We say you are free to swing your arm as far as you want just short of your fist touching someone else's nose.------------------------------------------------------------------------Dont worry, First they will have to try to speak hatefully so that I incite the violance...I can easily incite others to incite violance without them even knowing what really happen.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:58:01 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=46#comment61 Brit at the gaming tables;"Marcus - do you regard the states of both the UK and USA as "law abiding citizens" then ?The embarking upon a pre-emptive attack on another country based upon the flimsiest evidence....yada yada yada...."I'm not getting into a discussion with you over Iraq and the US did not use nuclear weapons in Iraq so the entire discussion was a non sequitur, I will not fall for your ruse. You'd have a better shot at it on the roulette wheel than you will with me. Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:56:06 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=45#comment60 Wrong. Used in self defense as the atomic bombs were,-------------------------------------------------------------------------Self defence or self offense, the operative words are "it used"-a felony... Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:53:07 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=45#comment59 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;#54" "THAT'S THE TROUBLE," said Nasrudin. LAST NIGHT SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS SO CONVINCED THAT SHE IS GOING TO STUDY TO BE A NUN.""Your story leaves me baffled. I assmue that neither Mulla Nasrudin nor the girl were Moslems because if they were, she would have been guilty of aposticy, nuns being strictly Roman Catholic. Surely a Moslem would not have persuaded his love to become a Catholic. And had they both been Moslem, surely he would have persuaded her to believe in Allah. But I don't see what insight this gives us into the Islamic mind or thinking process. What does convincing a girl to become a nun tell us...unless this is some oblique joke that is not relevant to the discussion. Oh wait, maybe this does give us insight into the Islamic mind after all :-) Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:52:46 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=44#comment58 Who shall we bring into the discussion? Salman Rushdie? -------------------------------------------------------------------------Can you name, and without doing the google, his first novel which hardly anyone knows because it was a total flop? He is just a writer, who writes that which sells...Living in england, his first book a total flop, he gets a idea to write something that catered the market, the british market, so he writes a book on india from the point of view of the british raaj, the book got banned in india, as it should have been, the guy got famous, next he expands to islam, again the market's demand, because of what was happening in iran...I didnt like his first book, didnt like his book on india and didnt like his most nortious book, didnt like the next book he wrote, and then learnt from expearnce that he is just a ruggish writer...outside his adopted country..Didnt actually like a few things he said about another jamaican born indian writer who won nobel price...unfortunately didnt like that author either, not because of his writings but because of something he said and did, before he wrote the book he got noble prize for... Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:44:01 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=43#comment57 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"At least some of us feel it is so irrational that only someone who understands it from the other side could make any sense out of it for us."I am still trying to understand why someone would write out a will that becomes null and void at the moment they die. Clearly you must have told those named in the will what they should expect to inherit or there would have been no purpose in writing it. Is it to make them think more highly of you for your generosity while you are alive or to wish you would die in anticipation of obtaining their part of your estate and then disappinting them? If you can't explain the Islamic thought process to us, could you explain your own insofar as it pertains to your will you spoke of? Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:43:47 GMT+1 hms_shannon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=42#comment56 44. At 6:38pm on 21 Sep 2010, Englishmaninvegas wrote:We need to take a step back here ...Why is it OK for US (both Brits and Americans) to have nuclear weapons - and PLEASE don't insult my intelligence by saying we are the good-guysEvents over the past 10 years in particular clearly show that we are notAny whilst we are on this subject - why is it OK for Israel to have nuclear weapons without threatening to bomb them into oblivion ?Don't get me wrong here - I have NO desire at all to see ANY new country with a capability of using such terrible weapons - but the stink of hypocrisy here is almost unbearable.....--------------------------------The stink of hypocrisy is preferable to the smell caused by megaton devise lobed at us by those who know we could not reply in kind.For the purpose of a deterrent & that is their only purpose,only a few are needed,saving billions. I will agree that this world would be a better place with out these obscenity`s that can never be used,sheep in north wales are still radio active re Chernobyl. Until that day! only a fool would disarm alone,with out a hard bargain being struck,with the desired effect of them all going..http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/may/12/farmers-restricted-chernobyl-disaster Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:40:02 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=41#comment55 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"Incase of nuclear weapon, usa has committed the felony twice...Your above sentence, null and void."Wrong. Used in self defense as the atomic bombs were, that was not a crime just as shooting and killing someone who attacks you first with the intent to kill you is not a crime in the USA. If you decide to visit the USA, I'd learn that law in case you ever get the urge to attack somone. BTW, speaking hatefully about religions including Islam is not a crime in the USA either so if you are easily incited to violence by such talk, I'd avoid visithing here. You never know what you might hear. We say you are free to swing your arm as far as you want just short of your fist touching someone else's nose. Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:33:44 GMT+1 Englishmanininvegas http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=41#comment54 Marcus - do you regard the states of both the UK and USA as "law abiding citizens" then ?The embarking upon a pre-emptive attack on another country based upon the flimsiest evidence that was later proved to be utterly false means we have no right at all to be included within this groupNone at all - your analogy simply isn't appropriate Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:31:37 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=40#comment53 At least some of us feel it is so irrational that only someone who understands it from the other side could make any sense out of it for us. I guess we will just have to live with the view that much of the Islamic world will not make any sense to us ever. Your one chance to "enlighten" us and you blew it.-------------------------------------------------------------------------Trust me its for the sake of your own belief that sometihngs should remain irrational to you..Once you start to make sense, then I am afraid, you will not remain a die hard believer of your beliefs..Mulla Nasrudin's family was upset because the girl he was planning to marry was an atheist. "We'll not have you marrying an atheist," his mother said. "What can I do? I love her," the young Nasrudin said. "Well," said his mother, "if she loves you, she will do anything you ask. You should talk religion to her. If you are persistent, you can win her over." Several weeks went by, then one morning at breakfast the young Mulla seemed absolutely brokenhearted. "What's the matter?" his mother asked. "I thought you were making such good progress in your talks about religion to your young girlfriend." "THAT'S THE TROUBLE," said Nasrudin. LAST NIGHT SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS SO CONVINCED THAT SHE IS GOING TO STUDY TO BE A NUN." Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:31:09 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=39#comment52 Why is it okay for a policeman or a law abiding citizen (in the US) to own a firearm but for a convicted felon it is not. Use your common sense.-----------------------------------------------------------------------And so shall I use...Incase of nuclear weapon, usa has committed the felony twice...Your above sentence, null and void..Try a better argument and dont tell others to use common sense next time..it does backfire.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:18:44 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=38#comment51 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"Allow me to burst your bubble, we dont talk day and night about things happening in usa, your laws and rules..or whose done what over there...Its not at all interesting..neither to us nor to our leaders"I'm glad you told me. From the number of your postings I've seen here I would have drawn exactly the opposite conclusion."And as far as your last sentence is concerned, ask the non muslims why think that way...I dont reside inside their minds, neither am I interested in finding out why they think..their minds, their thoughts.."How disappointing. And here I thought you were going to give us insight into the Islamic mind. And after you told us the other day that not being in Islamic countries we couldn't understand that world. Aren't you going to explain it to us? At least some of us feel it is so irrational that only someone who understands it from the other side could make any sense out of it for us. I guess we will just have to live with the view that much of the Islamic world will not make any sense to us ever. Your one chance to "enlighten" us and you blew it. Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:18:22 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=38#comment50 "Why is it OK for US (both Brits and Americans) to have nuclear weapons - and PLEASE don't insult my intelligence by saying we are the good-guys"------------------------------------------------------------------------The pet argument of the experts is that when NNPT came into existance in 70s, the permenent members the veto memembers, had already built nuclear weapons, ergo this treaty's basic intention to not spread nuclear weapons, and the treaty wasnt concerned with banning of nuclear weapons.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:12:05 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=37#comment49 So it is okay for you to spout off endlessly about America's laws, policies, culture, but neither Americans nor non Moslems around the world may talk about policies, laws, culture in Islamic countries like Iran. So since we can't talk about that, how about we talk about the double standard many Moslems seem to have, one for the Islamic world and another for the rest of the world. Shall we start with why some Moslems feel it is okay to go on a jihad and kill non moslems or why many non moslems think it says in the Koran that Moslems will go to paradise if they kill non moslems? -------------------------------------------------------------------------You can talk all you like, if that makes you gain some weight and happy..But, then you should make sure that it remains on the "talk level" that these arguments do not become part of your war propoganda..Allow me to burst your bubble, we dont talk day and night about things happening in usa, your laws and rules..or whose done what over there...Its not at all interesting..neither to us nor to our leaders..Talking about us, muslims, islam, and our countries is your obbession..Why do many americans want to go to war? the same with those many muslims wanting to go to jihad..No rocket science here, that all of a sudden, muslims wanting to go to war/jihad becomes so complicated that its beyonf human comprehension..And as far as your last sentence is concerned, ask the non muslims why think that way...I dont reside inside their minds, neither am I interested in finding out why they think..their minds, their thoughts.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:08:17 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=36#comment48 Okay, let's try it another way and test the system.Someone who wants to find out about a suicide bomber who wore a burka as a disguise to kill 3 Ministers of the Somali government's Cabinet can google;muhammad disguised as a womanThere you will find many entries. One in particular which on my search was the second unindented entry [Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator] Tue 21 Sep 2010 18:04:56 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=35#comment47 Any whilst we are on this subject - why is it OK for Israel to have nuclear weapons without threatening to bomb them into oblivion ?-------------------------------------------------------------------------Thats an easy questions..the experts pet answer is that Israel has not signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty therefore it can build the nuclear weapons, india,pakistan and north korea are also the non signers to the treaty..ergo, they can expand..Iran had signed to it...and therefore an easy target whether it builds or not is not important..Now, if you can argue with this non-sensical argument, then all the best wishes...the experts wont let you let them deviate from this point.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 17:59:27 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=35#comment46 Brit at the gaming tables;"Why is it OK for US (both Brits and Americans) to have nuclear weapons - and PLEASE don't insult my intelligence by saying we are the good-guys"Why is it okay for a policeman or a law abiding citizen (in the US) to own a firearm but for a convicted felon it is not. Use your common sense. Tue 21 Sep 2010 17:57:06 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=34#comment45 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"Its none of your bussiness. Your bussiness with Iran should be based on how iran treats you and how you treat iran...Thus far and no more..If you dont like iranian laws, there is no need for you to even talk to it..."So it is okay for you to spout off endlessly about America's laws, policies, culture, but neither Americans nor non Moslems around the world may talk about policies, laws, culture in Islamic countries like Iran. So since we can't talk about that, how about we talk about the double standard many Moslems seem to have, one for the Islamic world and another for the rest of the world. Shall we start with why some Moslems feel it is okay to go on a jihad and kill non moslems or why many non moslems think it says in the Koran that Moslems will go to paradise if they kill non moslems? BTW, the link you don't want to see has after wwww. [Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator]But don't look at it, it might be anti-islamic. Tue 21 Sep 2010 17:53:58 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=33#comment44 Whats so pathetically funny is none among you know the background of ahmedinjad...that he was the student leader in 79, and the only one who opposed the american embassy hijack idea....because he thought that it would harm his country's interest and the relations with usa...He is not your knee-jerk kind of a leader you are used to in the west.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 17:39:26 GMT+1 Englishmanininvegas http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=32#comment43 We need to take a step back here ...Why is it OK for US (both Brits and Americans) to have nuclear weapons - and PLEASE don't insult my intelligence by saying we are the good-guysEvents over the past 10 years in particular clearly show that we are notAny whilst we are on this subject - why is it OK for Israel to have nuclear weapons without threatening to bomb them into oblivion ?Don't get me wrong here - I have NO desire at all to see ANY new country with a capability of using such terrible weapons - but the stink of hypocrisy here is almost unbearable..... Tue 21 Sep 2010 17:38:36 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=32#comment42 I think it is important to point out that Ahmadinejad, the man we love to hate, is actually under a lot of pressure from the Ayatollahs, Mullahs, and the Revolutionary Guard because of his efforts to improve women's rights and introduce democratic concepts that are anathema to the views of the radical elements that control Iranian policy making. As incredible as it may seem to most Americans, he may be a voice of moderation compared to potential successors. -------------------------------------------------------------------------Rubbish..In a country where even imams are elected, you so generously accuse them of being non-democratic..They have their own system of democracy which is far better than the two lame democracies the west has produced in recent years...For 30 yrs west especially usa has been trying to make iran pro-western while the west has created problem for iran at every step of the way...now, its time that west tries itself to be pro-iranian... Tue 21 Sep 2010 17:35:37 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=31#comment41 Who shall we bring into the discussion? Salman Rushdie? Victims of the Taleban and al Qaeda? Victims in Sudan? How about women who are forced to wear nikabs, hijabs or burkhas? What about the women in Saudi Arabia who are not allowed to drive or vote or run for political office? The women who protested the election in Iran? We can't ask Neda Agha-Soltan, she died doing it. What about the woman sentenced to be stoned to death for adultery? Oh I know what you are going to say, that is their culture, not their religion. Yeah right and the tooth fairy puts money under your pillow just the way the Easter bunny brings Easter eggs.-------------------------------------------------------------------------Wrong. I will say, and was going to say and always say to such things is...Its none of your bussiness. Your bussiness with Iran should be based on how iran treats you and how you treat iran...Thus far and no more..If you dont like iranian laws, there is no need for you to even talk to it...If you dont like the way your friend treats his family inside his home, you dont start a hate movement against him, you just accept him or you reject him.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 17:29:49 GMT+1 SaintDominick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=30#comment40 Ref 24, Philly Mom"Is there an 'All of the above' option?"I doubt President Obama expects any new sanctions to work. They have not worked in the past and they will not work now. The reason they have been ineffective is because Iran is a self-sufficient nation and one that is willing to do without luxuries if doing so means preserving their sovereignty and their values.The best approach we could take is diplomacy and compromise, normalize relations, and quietly support the pro-Western movement that exists in Iran. I think it is important to point out that Ahmadinejad, the man we love to hate, is actually under a lot of pressure from the Ayatollahs, Mullahs, and the Revolutionary Guard because of his efforts to improve women's rights and introduce democratic concepts that are anathema to the views of the radical elements that control Iranian policy making. As incredible as it may seem to most Americans, he may be a voice of moderation compared to potential successors. Tue 21 Sep 2010 17:24:04 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=29#comment39 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"The rule of thumb is whatever the western media says, just believe the opposite, whatever they omit, just believe it exists"Then I suppose you would not believe the reports from that other amorphous entity which has no fixed borders about an Islamic terrorist suicide bomber disguised as a woman to assassinate 3 Somali cabinet Ministers. In fact I'll bet you won't even click on the link below to see what they say. Perhaps reading a report from the amorphous entity is anti-Islamic or even talking to them the way Mahmoud Abbas does is anti-Islamic. Would a true Moslem man lower himself by dressing up as a woman just to get to paradise;[Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator]Hey, I saw that. You peeked. Better say 100 our fathers or hail marys or whatever the islamic equivalent is or you may not get to take your Amani shoes to paradise with you. Tue 21 Sep 2010 17:22:46 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=29#comment38 Jeeze Colon, do you just disagree with everyone without thinking? Like most people I choose to ignore your rantings, but when Philly-Mom basically says something that you should understand and sympathize with you go off at a tangent. I'm just gonna sit back and watch you and MA slug it out. Man!-------------------------------------------------------------------------Read my post...My sympathies are not for free that I distribute them here and there..If americans want to do something constructive this time, and if they genuinely want to negotiate with iran, then they should make up their minds, either they are for the desctruction or against it...Not hmm, err, or No, but....The ambvilance of americans have already destroyed millions..You are free to ignore my rants...But remember this curse, which the americans seem to cursed with, the ignore the enemy or whoever says something that they are not tuned to hear, has already made you believe in lies, Most of you generously believe that somehow saddam led you to believe he had wmd, therefore you attacked iraq, derfore its his fault for you attacking iraq..it led you to believe that taliban didnt make offer on ben laden, and that blair actually was not interested in religon, while all the yrs he sat as prime minister he was into religon neck deep.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 17:07:01 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=28#comment37 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"Now, carry on discussing lies...and rumors.."OK, let's discuss what some might consider a lie, that Islam is a religion of peace and treats women as equal to men.Who shall we bring into the discussion? Salman Rushdie? Victims of the Taleban and al Qaeda? Victims in Sudan? How about women who are forced to wear nikabs, hijabs or burkhas? What about the women in Saudi Arabia who are not allowed to drive or vote or run for political office? The women who protested the election in Iran? We can't ask Neda Agha-Soltan, she died doing it. What about the woman sentenced to be stoned to death for adultery? Oh I know what you are going to say, that is their culture, not their religion. Yeah right and the tooth fairy puts money under your pillow just the way the Easter bunny brings Easter eggs. Tue 21 Sep 2010 16:57:08 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=27#comment36 Reports in the Western press and of dire concerns by Western governments are based on expert evaluation of intelligence gathered information about Iranian purchase of equipment that can only be used for developing and manufacturing nuclear weapons. -------------------------------------------------------------------------Yes, like it was with regard to iraq's wmd....All the expert evaluation of intellingence gathered and it turned out to be just empty drums..The rule of thumb is whatever the western media says, just believe the opposite, whatever they omit, just believe it exists..Whatever they dicuss is just lies..they would even wear burka to enter the country illegally in an effort to show the world how difficult its to enter, instead of travelling through proper channels by having proper documenters, and when they can travel into a country because their forces occupy that country, most of them pack up and leave, others embed with the forces... Tue 21 Sep 2010 16:56:12 GMT+1 No Worries http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=26#comment35 29. At 4:04pm on 21 Sep 2010, colonelartist wrote:Jeeze Colon, do you just disagree with everyone without thinking? Like most people I choose to ignore your rantings, but when Philly-Mom basically says something that you should understand and sympathize with you go off at a tangent. I'm just gonna sit back and watch you and MA slug it out. Man! Tue 21 Sep 2010 16:28:23 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=25#comment34 In an era of WMDs, all we have to do is find out who appears to be a threat to us or might become one and eliminate that threat before it materializes with whatever means we have at our disposal. That is what everyone who works for the United States Federal government from the President on down has sworn to do, that is what the United States government has failed to do. When will the American people start holding its government to account for failing to give the welfare of Americans its exclusive priority?-------------------------------------------------------------------------Yes.. But one drawback of such policy is that one has to lie and accept lies...And you have already said that americans have no qualms against being lied to and lying...Case closed...Obama will lie..and his lies will be accepted...Now, carry on discussing lies...and rumors.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 16:24:55 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=25#comment33 I wonder what our reaction would be if Iran and China negotiate a new trade agreement and China increases their purchases of Iranian petroleum? -------------------------------------------------------------------------Your leaders reaction will be to sabotage the deal, just as they have done it with iranian gas deal with india and pakistan..and your reaction will be zero, as it was when your leaders sabotaged the iranian, indian and pakistani deal... Tue 21 Sep 2010 16:19:21 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=24#comment32 To the amorphous entity who has such a large family and so many friends I can't dream of it and has expensive sandals and Armani shoes in his will which will become null and void at his demise;"Western journalists are westerners..the product of their societies which prefer to believe that iran will develop nuclear weapons"Reports in the Western press and of dire concerns by Western governments are based on expert evaluation of intelligence gathered information about Iranian purchase of equipment that can only be used for developing and manufacturing nuclear weapons. This evidence and other behavior is now so convincing that even Russia has changed its stance and is willing to go along with sanctions. Perhaps credible reports of Russian nuclear scientists working for Iran the Russian government didn't know about convinced them. Iran is on a collision course with destiny and it seems it cannot be deterred. At the moment the West including the US and Israel lack the political will even though they have the means. Tue 21 Sep 2010 16:18:54 GMT+1 colonelartist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/09/whats_obama_going_to_tell_the.html?page=23#comment31 You can't trust people who keep stoning their own people to death... and you don't want them having nukes whatever their 'rights' or 'wrongs'------------------------------------------------------------------------Yes. You can, However you shouldt trust people who are chronic liars..and who occupy countries based on lies and are all set to do exactly the same thing all over again..Between iran and usa, Iran is the lesser of two evils.. Tue 21 Sep 2010 16:14:47 GMT+1