Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html en-gb 30 Wed 27 Aug 2014 09:56:07 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html U14309841 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=99#comment205 Cheers Jmm. clears it up. I'm with you in many ways though on education no. I don't think there should eb any restrictions on LOANS. which is what they do. I know someone who unlike our resident charlie felt strong enough to not register for the draft. and he had to drop collage dreams until he can afford it. (highly unlikely considering the over emphasis on degrees in the USA(ie they think a university degree is more important than trade knowledge (which despite some peoples thoughts can include quite a varied syllabus . especially in a country who's manufacturing skills are in the hole.lets hope the draft requirement is dropped. and good on Obama for ensuring that not only those military that served get an education choice but if they so choose the daughters or wives or sons or husbands get the right to go to collage. Sun 31 Jan 2010 21:02:39 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=99#comment204 203. At 5:59pm on 31 Jan 2010, personanongrata wrote:"Jmm I personally don't think holding peoples access to collage hostage because of their refusal to sign up for the illegal sexist draft is OK.And they do get refused even state funds for collage."Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. At least part of America's current problems is a culture of self-centeredness, sometimes blatant selfishness. You hear "Gimme, because I want it," not because I have earned it or deserve it[in objective terms].Even these anti-government nutcases want to keep getting social security, medicare, free roads, free public libraries, fire department, police department, postal service, etc. What they object to is paying for it with taxes or with other contributions to the society.A friend of my brother was a real shirker of this type. He had a fake drivers licence and fake plates on his car. He said it was a matter of principle because the right to drive, which is a necessity, should not be taxed. He did not want to consider that he was just avoiding paying for the roads and services that he was using; and of course the rest of us were paying his share.I would make at least the first years of college [all of junior college] free, but expect the recipients to perform some kind of community service in lieu paying for it. Native Americans and veterans of the Police, fire, EMS and military should not have to pay nor perform any such service.I hope this makes my opinion clearer. We have too many entitlements as it is, we do not need more. As I said, I think I benefited more from my voluntary service than the people I was helping; so it is not as if I am suggesting that people be required to do something not at all in their own interest. I actually agree that a draft is not a good idea, especially if spoiled rich kids get a pass and immunity from service. Women should not get a pass either. I hope that clears things up a bit. Sun 31 Jan 2010 20:49:32 GMT+1 U14309841 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=98#comment203 PS Jmm thanks for the answer. reasonable;) Stu I'm with Jmm. I said this before though. americans will reject the MA, Adreinnys and get angry. especially those that I have met that did go fight in these wars. a few of them seem angry at the old folk who keep throwing the baby out.the" corporatist-GOP-FOX-Blue Dog-specials "(*like that) are on the wrong end of a generational divide.when they seek care who will be there for them and their selfish politics.or politics of selfishness. Sun 31 Jan 2010 18:03:43 GMT+1 U14309841 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=98#comment202 Jmm I personally don't think holding peoples access to collage hostage because of their refusal to sign up for the illegal sexist draft is OK. And they do get refused even state funds for collage.I think that if a girl doesn't have to sign up for the draft (active or not) no boy should have to.Simple.we had a very few people say there should be a draft for these wars today. WHY. it was a war that was decided by old people. Not those asked to fight.The draft registration should be abolished. Sun 31 Jan 2010 17:59:16 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=97#comment201 201. At 1:41pm on 31 Jan 2010, RomeStu wrote:"Has anyone else noticed how the really anti-Obama crowd have re-written themselves as "anti-government" as if they secretly hated all the previous govts and are just now saying so?"Yes, but it's the same tactic whichever party happens to be in control at the moment. This is the reason so many Americans seem to hate the government, both parties tell them, in turn, that it is the problem, not the solution to problems.Americans have been suspicious of government since before the American Revolution, after all. Massachusetts' dissolved parliament refused dissolution and instituted itself as the de facto if not de jure government of the colony in 1774. In the previous century they arrested and deposed a royal governor. So it doesn't take mutch to push that button.I believe, and hope, the corporatist-GOP-FOX-Blue Dog-special interests have gone too far this time, and that the people will turn on them when they realize that they have been fooled. Sun 31 Jan 2010 15:45:33 GMT+1 RomeStu http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=97#comment200 Has anyone else noticed how the really anti-Obama crowd have re-written themselves as "anti-government" as if they secretly hated all the previous govts and are just now saying so?Seems to me like just more spin, and a clever way to get around the fact that Obama is trying to clean up the mess made by their ex-poster boy "W". Sun 31 Jan 2010 13:41:35 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=96#comment199 199. At 10:24pm on 30 Jan 2010, personanongrata wrote:“…the other question. I have been asking about registering for the draft. something not required in the UK if males (sexist) refuse in the USA they can be denied access to educational opportunities (grants/loans).”There is no draft now, though I think males have to register in case one is ever enacted again. I was called up during the Vietnam War, and was given an odd status 2Y [I think] one can be called up only in case of invasion. Registration was only necessary between 18 and 35 [I think].I agree with you that it is sexist for only males to be required to have such service. I believe there should be compulsory national service for most young people [many schools already require some kind of “volunteer” public service]. The voluntary part of public service is that you can choose what you do rather than being put into the military. Germany is actually allowing their young men to choose other than military service, or so I’ve heard.I am not sure if there is any punishment, since there is no actual draft. And there is conscientions objector status. I don’t have a problem with denying refusers government jobs and handouts. There are hiring preferences for those who have served, my Peace corps benefit was short lived and minor compared to soldiers, as it should be. I didn’t have to do anything except wait for the Russian invasion, but I joined the Peace Corps, and it was the best decision of my life. I have lived and worked in six countries and have visited another 37 or so. I am sure I got more out of it than what my service contributed. I wasn’t ignoring your question, just waiting to see if someone younger with more current knowledge would answer you.The US needed such things as the oath because we are not a single people with a single ethnicity, common religion, etc. Without such things we would have become a mostly English speaking version of the Balkans. Sun 31 Jan 2010 02:01:32 GMT+1 U14309841 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=96#comment198 197 jmm no one is asked to say an oath to the queen in the UK unless they want to serve the Queen. never. the national anthem, sure people generally stand still (unless they are marching I suppose don't know. never had to think about it. but you miss the other question. I have been asking about registering for the draft. something not required in the UK if males (sexist) refuse in the USA they can be denied access to educational opportunities(grants/loans).Both sexist and against our freedom right? I accept that the oath if one is allowed to not say it is OK if not a little brainwashy;) Sat 30 Jan 2010 22:24:21 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=95#comment197 178. At 10:14am on 23 Jan 2010, zaphodian wrote: RE: 174. At 01:16am on 23 Jan 2010, JMM“If there's a general theme to be picked out from the US/UK differences it would be that the UK tends to be cynical about all of its' politicians where many in the US are only cynical about those politicians they don't support. This unfortunately means that some slogans & soundbites aren't questioned enough which isn't good because all politicians need to be held accountable for their words & deeds.”There is an old [or at least not recent] saying about that, “He may be an SOB but he’s our SOB.” This is why they are so Piranha-like in their hunger for pork. When they bring home the bacon, they secure the votes of their selfish and/or parochial constituents.Apologies for the non-Kosher, non-Halal post.RE: 184. At 1:50pm on 24 Jan 2010, squirrelistWas the “Rump Parliament” really legitimate as it was not the whole parliament, much less “The King in Parliament?” Some really dodgy things have gone down in Britain from time to time. Of course with the Bush years fresh in memory, I’m not flinging rocks at your glass house for fear of my own windows; I’m just saying. Both countries are united in Anglo-Saxonhood [at least in French Eyes]. Fri 29 Jan 2010 23:42:49 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=95#comment196 196. At 5:32pm on 29 Jan 2010, personanongrata wrote:"so what would happen at school if one left and refused to say the oath?curiosity."Some people have religious objections to saying it [Amish, Quakers, 7th Day Advent [not sure], conscientious objectors, and others] and no one bothers them. This is a very large country, if you want to know how ordinary people would react, I couldn't possibly speak for more than a few of the 300,000,000+ inhabitants. We are diverse on this as on other subjects as well. Refusal would undoubtedly be more tolerated or criticized in different places.Personally, I was so disgusted by the unconstitutional Xtofascist behaviour of the Bush Regime that I made a promise to myself that if requested or required I would hapily use the version I learned in school, without the additional "under God."I don't think anybody not on the Faux "news" network would be too critical, nor would I fear for my safety, because of government or citizen action.My turn. Is standing at attention during and/or singing "God save the Queen/King," or toasting His/Her Majesty no longer observed in the UK and the Commonwealth? Would anyone be looked askance at for not participating in the tribal ritual? Fri 29 Jan 2010 23:00:08 GMT+1 U14309841 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=94#comment195 so what would happen at school if one left and refused to say the oath? curiosity. and still that draft issue(sexist only applies to men, not Hillary's daughter;)15-35 or 45, what is the age that you have to be to register for the draft.that registration that if you do not do it, will prevent you from getting financial assistance for collage. Fri 29 Jan 2010 17:32:41 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=94#comment194 192. At 4:41pm on 27 Jan 2010, personanongrata wrote:"So what happens to an american that refuses to swear the oath of allegiance?Not something required of those "subjects" of the UK."There is no legal requirement to do so except as part of the naturalization swearing in ceremony [and that has been watered down considerably, new Americans were formerly required to renounce their previuous allegiance, now some can keep dual or even triple allegiance].Or, of course, upon entering the military or government service. Is it logical to not require it of those people or to not be sure that they mean it?The shooting at Ft. Hood seems to support a need to be sure that those who take that oath do so in good faith [which 99.99% do]. Fri 29 Jan 2010 17:00:06 GMT+1 Sara Linder http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=93#comment193 This post has been Removed Wed 27 Jan 2010 22:21:38 GMT+1 Sara Linder http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=93#comment192 This post has been Removed Wed 27 Jan 2010 22:20:44 GMT+1 U14309841 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=92#comment191 So what happens to an american that refuses to swear the oath of allegiance? Not something required of those "subjects" of the UK. PS what happens to an american male that does not sign up for the draft. They are not allowed state funding for collage and a few other issues.Freedom? Wed 27 Jan 2010 16:41:51 GMT+1 GH1618 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=92#comment190 "Anyway, we abolished the death penalty long ago." (from squirrelist at #188)Not so very long ago. The death penalty for treason was ended in 1998:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7288516.stm Wed 27 Jan 2010 16:31:12 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=91#comment189 Re #188 squirrelist. thanks.BTW I've been to St. Helena (quite a nice place)Although I haven't been exactly 'sent' there. Wed 27 Jan 2010 12:12:45 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=91#comment188 188. At 11:31pm on 25 Jan 2010, squirrelist wrote something that gave me quite a start. I thought you wrote that your parliament had impeached Warren Harding while sitting as a court. I must get some new glasses, and read more slowly. Although he might have deserved impeachment, the reaper got him first. Tue 26 Jan 2010 00:28:06 GMT+1 squirrelist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=90#comment187 187. At 4:21pm on 25 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote: But what happens if a monarch REFUSES to sign it into law and retire? What happens then, (both: formally and technically)?Haven't a clue. Can't imagine it. It's been a very long time since a monarch refused to sign any bill passed by Parliament. Must be getting on for 200 years at least, if not 300. (Sorry the course and exam I took at school on the History of the British Constitution's a bit hazy now.) The last one signed the Instrument of Abdication OK without too much argument.I suppose that in practice we'd have to have elected a President or Doge or Gonfaloniere or whatever in advance ready for the takeover anyway, so I suppose in that case the cops would arrest the monarch and put them on a boat to St Helena or somewhere. . .Can't see us doing a Ceausescu thing in the courtyard of Buck House, really, or sharpening any axes in the Tower Armoury. Anyway, we abolished the death penalty long ago.Parliament could actually order the arrest, I think, because constitutionally it's still 'The High Court of Parliament'* though I don't think it's actually acted as a court since, er, not sure . . . the impeachment of Warren Hastings in 1780 something, maybe.*You really are asking me to remember a lot I've not thought about for ages. I think it's technically "The High Court of Parliament in Westminster Assembled" if it's to do that sort of thing. And I suppose then the Speaker of the House would tell the Sergeant-at-Arms to actually do the feeling the collar and the "Are you coming quietly or do we have to put the cuffs on?" bit. Mon 25 Jan 2010 23:31:30 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=90#comment186 Re #184squirrelist, thank you for your explanation.However, in view of it I have an additional question:You write:"It's quite easy. A party stands in a General Election with a proposal to abolish the monarchy and establish a republic (or oligarchy, or whatever) they get voted in with a big majority, they pass an Act of Parliament, Monarch signs it into law and retires. That's it."Fine. But what happens if a monarch REFUSES to sign it into law and retire?What happens then, (both: formally and technically)? Mon 25 Jan 2010 16:21:26 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=89#comment185 184. At 1:50pm on 24 Jan 2010, squirrelist wrote an informative and humorous post.The thing about it is that once the Sovereign has executed the legislation, who signs the next piece of legislation? Clearly Parliament can pass legislation requiring the Sovereign to abdicate in favour of another. But the larger question of abolition of the Monarchy, generally, would leave a hole in the center of the doughnut. That certainly would require a Constitutional change. Ah, the delightfully quirky and so very English nature of it all: sophisticated Constitutional law, for a country that has no specifically defined Constitution.That, cricket, and Morris dancing. Sun 24 Jan 2010 16:37:04 GMT+1 squirrelist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=89#comment184 182. zaphodian wrote:"How far north? :) "Same latitude as Moscow, I think, from what I remember of Geography at school :- D Sun 24 Jan 2010 13:53:10 GMT+1 squirrelist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=88#comment183 183. At 07:02am on 24 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:"So, am I to understand that as a citizen of a parliamentarian democracy (please, correct me if I'm wrong) you can vote a royal family out? . . .Would it entail changing British Constitution? And how could that be accomplished?"It's quite easy. A party stands in a General Election with a proposal to abolish the monarchy and establish a republic (or oligarchy, or whatever) they get voted in with a big majority, they pass an Act of Parliament, Monarch signs it into law and retires. That's it.There wouldn't be any problem, because it wouldn't get overturned in any court, because it wouldn't contradict any other of the Acts of Parliament or law.(Though for a change that important we'd expect to have a referendum on just that single issue after the election, and we'd probably expect the change to need a substantial majority vote, I think. There is a curious constitutional oddity, because the British monarch is also titular head of state of quite a few other countries too; and not long ago, someone pointed out that their citizens would probably have to vote as well as us for it to be properly constitutional for them as well as us. But then, they'd probably accept what we wanted, I imagine.)I don't actually know whether we could 'impeach' a monarch like you can impeach presidents;I suppose we could, but they'd have to do something pretty drastic, like starting a civil war or something, there's not a lot they can actually do. It's Prime Ministers that have the power of your president, and yes, Parliament can impeach a PM.We did try a King and execute him and had a go at a republic (more than 100 years before your revolution btw) but we've given that sort of thing up; bit too uncivilised, really. Last couple of times we got rid of one it was basically an elected Parliament making them feel unwelcome, so they just left. (They like settling in Paris for some odd reason.) Sun 24 Jan 2010 13:50:50 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=88#comment182 squirrelist point out: "My passport makes no mention of either [being a British subject" or a "subject to"]: I am a 'British citizen'.So, am I to understand that as a citizen of a parliamentarian democracy (please, correct me if I'm wrong) you can vote a royal family out?I'am not being sarcastic. Just genuinely curious how British 'citizens' would go about throwing C-Gs out;, if they wanted to, of course.[and I'm not suggesting for a moment that they would want to do that]Would it entail changing British Constitution? And how could that be accomplished?P.S. Can your royals be impeached, like, e.g. U.S. presidents? Sun 24 Jan 2010 07:02:38 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=87#comment181 181. At 1:53pm on 23 Jan 2010, squirrelist wrote:Hmm. Find it a bit overwhelming myself, sometimes. . ."Everybody's mad except thee an' me. . . An' ah'm not too sure about thee!"(Well known saying from where I was brought up.)How far north? :) Sat 23 Jan 2010 21:13:02 GMT+1 squirrelist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=87#comment180 179. At 10:18am on 23 Jan 2010, zaphodian wrote: "There's room for all opinions, even the odious ones. . ."And don't some take up an awful lot of room?"besides, it's always nice to read what some genuinely mad people believe that they think:) "Hmm. Find it a bit overwhelming myself, sometimes. . ."Everybody's mad except thee an' me. . . An' ah'm not too sure about thee!"(Well known saying from where I was brought up.) Sat 23 Jan 2010 13:53:02 GMT+1 squirrelist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=86#comment179 176. powermeerkat:Let's try and get this sorted for once and for all:We are, constitutionally, 'subjects of' Her Majesty, not subject to. There's a profound difference. And outside a textbook on the British constitution, you'll virtually never read the phrase.My passport makes no mention of either: I am a 'British citizen'. Sat 23 Jan 2010 13:27:02 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=86#comment178 176. At 09:11am on 23 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:Not that, as you can see from some lunatic/hysterical knee-jerk posts above, some Islamist 'comrades' with a huge inferiority complex wouldn't love to see United States becoming another Mexico.There's room for all opinions, even the odious ones, the important thing is to come to your own conclusions & not have them hard wired in by a third party, besides, it's always nice to read what some genuinely mad people believe that they think:) Sat 23 Jan 2010 10:18:02 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=85#comment177 174. At 01:16am on 23 Jan 2010, JMM wrote:And I know what YOU mean, especially the distortions and outright lies circulated by the insurance industry, and the credible public here, concerning the NHC, "socialized medicine," etc.If there's a general theme to be picked out from the US/UK differences it would be that the UK tends to be cynical about all of its' politicians where many in the US are only cynical about those politicians they don't support. This unfortunately means that some slogans & soundbites aren't questioned enough which isn't good because all politicians need to be held accountable for their words & deeds. Sat 23 Jan 2010 10:14:39 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=85#comment176 Re #176Have I mentioned Cubans as well? Sat 23 Jan 2010 09:12:47 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=84#comment175 Re #171 161. At 1:22pm on 22 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:Check in another 200 wheter U.S. has indeed collapsed disappeared.If EUSSR is still around by then, that is. :-)zaphodian replied:I have no doubts that the US will survive, the EU I can take or leave (okay so we're not allowed to vote on it).Not that, as you can see from some lunatic/hysterical knee-jerk posts above, some Islamist 'comrades' with a huge inferiority complex wouldn't love to see United States becoming another Mexico.Interestingly, however, that's the last thing millions of Mexicans immigrating by hook and by crook to El Norte would like to see happen. P.S. That, incidentally, seems to be true also in case of more&more Venezuelans. And Nicaraguans. And Bolivians. Although I wonder why? :-))) Sat 23 Jan 2010 09:11:41 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=84#comment174 RE: 174. At 01:16am on 23 Jan 2010To correct myself I meant to say credulous, though INcredible might have worked. Sat 23 Jan 2010 02:38:51 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=83#comment173 173. At 11:30pm on 22 Jan 2010, zaphodian wrote RE:172. At 11:01pm on 22 Jan 2010, JMM."It's possibly bumph but I know what you mean & assure you that it's not a one way street :)"And I know what YOU mean, especially the distortions and outright lies circulated by the insurance industry, and the credible public here, concerning the NHC, "socialized medicine," etc.Having lived overseas [though not in the EU/UK areas] and been covered [sometimes by private insurance] in a number of countries, I have to say the reports were ludicrously self serving. So few Americans have overseas experience, though that they have no way to know and judge fairly. Sat 23 Jan 2010 01:16:41 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=83#comment172 172. At 11:01pm on 22 Jan 2010, JMM wrote:If you must criticize the US, you could at least use real world information not made up "bumpf" [I do hope that's the correct British, I've been quite puzzled by some of the dialectal variations here. No offense intended, it is a British site, and quite educational, especially linguistically, for us polylinguistically challenged Americans.]It's possibly bumph but I know what you mean & assure you that it's not a one way street :) Fri 22 Jan 2010 23:30:40 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=83#comment171 167. At 5:48pm on 22 Jan 2010, Simon21 wrote RE:133. At 7:59pm on 21 Jan 2010, powermeerkat"Even the ridiculously elaborate dress uniforms of the US military look more like a Bolivian junta then a Western European military."Have you seen what Prince Philip looks like in full military regalia, or the French Guarde Republicaine?If you must criticize the US, you could at least use real world information not made up "bumpf" [I do hope that's the correct British, I've been quite puzzled by some of the dialectal variations here. No offense intended, it is a British site, and quite educational, especially linguistically, for us polylinguistically challenged Americans.] Fri 22 Jan 2010 23:01:43 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=82#comment170 161. At 1:22pm on 22 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:Check in another 200 wheter U.S. has indeed collapsed disappeared.If EUSSR is still around by then, that is. :-)I have no doubts that the US will survive, the EU I can take or leave (okay so we're not allowed to vote on it), but so long as a corporation with its' vast resources can be equated to a single person with limited resources you have some interesting times coming up. Since the corporation is required by law to act only in its' own interests but a person is required to limit their actions to within the law this cannot equate, but good luck with that :) Fri 22 Jan 2010 22:45:44 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=82#comment169 Ref #169"Vote early, vote often" Daley even manged to persuade many stiffs in Windy City's cemeteries to vote for JFK.[who's finest hour was, of course, the Bay of Pigs fiasco]P.S. I also seem to remember JFK involving us militarily in Vietnam.And Tricky Dicky ending that involvment."How soon they forget!" :-) Fri 22 Jan 2010 20:51:56 GMT+1 MagicKirin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=81#comment168 ref #166Kennedy also stole the 1960 election with help from chicago mayor Richard Daley Fri 22 Jan 2010 20:36:09 GMT+1 ranter22 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=81#comment167 155. At 08:34am on 22 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:Re #140 ranter wrote:Tricky used that already " Let me make one thing perfectly CLEAR" "I am not a CROOK" HUH?Are you refering to Dems denying C-SPAN an access to health "reform" proceeding?P.S. I don't think Mr. Obama is a crook; he's simply just another lawyer.------------------------------------------------- 'Just''another''Lawyer!' Say no More. Fri 22 Jan 2010 17:55:27 GMT+1 Simon21 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=80#comment166 133. At 7:59pm on 21 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:Re#129got to go now, zaphodian, sorry.But if you bother to find one of my earlier posts somewhere in this blog addressing specifically an issue Russian military 'might' and Russian military industry, and try to do some research yourself, I'm sure you'll realize that all Russian army is good for these days is FOR attacking a midget like Georgia."Which the brave US defended so stoutly. Cowardly or what."Besides population ratio of PRC vs Russian Federation is 10:1 andNOBODY EVER DEFEATED DEMOGRAPHY."Numbers don't cut it old son since the BLR invented over 100 years ago.BTW. Peaceful reconquista of Manchuria by the Chinese has already began many years ago.And the peaceful reoccupation of the US from Latin America (1 million a year) is progressing even faster.You can already see the effects.1. The visceral politics2. The obsession with guns (just ask the Virginians)3. The deeply corrupt and falwed political system.Even the ridiculously elaborate dress uniforms of the US military look more like a Bolivian junta then a Western European military. Fri 22 Jan 2010 17:48:35 GMT+1 Simon21 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=80#comment165 138. At 9:10pm on 21 Jan 2010, MarcusAureliusII wrote:"Who did Kennedy beat? Oh yes tricky (I did nuddin, I tell ya ****xxxx nuddin") NixonWhat a relief!""You must be a fool, you don't know anything about history. Less than two years after the election, Kennedy's weakness and stupidity resulted in a crisis that brought the human race to within hours of total extinction. Not a joke or an exaggeration, study the Cuban missile crisis and find out just how close the US came to total thermonuclear war with the USSR in October 1962. "Kennedy's greatest triumph.Keep to Roumanian history marcus, you are out of your depth.Anyway you think thermonuclear war is a good thing don't you? Fri 22 Jan 2010 17:41:47 GMT+1 Simon21 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=79#comment164 143. At 10:28pm on 21 Jan 2010, MagicKirin wrote:Oh for those who believe Keith Obermann's lie about Brown being a right wing conservative tea bagger. Brown is supporting McCain in Arizona not J D Haworth."Good Mr McCain will need to be supported, especially when getting into his car. Fri 22 Jan 2010 17:38:07 GMT+1 Simon21 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=79#comment163 154. At 08:00am on 22 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:133. At 7:59pm on 21 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:NOBODY EVER DEFEATED DEMOGRAPHY.BTW. Peaceful reconquista of Manchuria by the Chinese has already began many years ago.Like the peacefull reoccupation of the US South by Latin America.-------------------------------------------------------------------------No, it's worth it. Chinese (mostly Manchurians with strong emotional attachment to their ancestral land) are not exactly looking for riches (although there's plenty of gas off Sakhalin and gold in Kolyma); they are simply looking for a living S P A C E.Ah your only problem is most Chinese are not Manchurians, Han Chinese consider Manchurians to be a minority.opps!!!!------------------------------------------------------------------------And believe me: there's plenty of almost empty space in both, Primorski and Khabarovski Krai, particularly since local Russians are moving (or even are being moved, for economic reasons) west.That would be because (hint theres lot of empty space in the Sahara and Antartic too!)--------------------------------------------------------------------------In 20 years PRC won't even have to use its huge, and quite modern (unlike in 1969) armed forces much:Chinese Peoples Liberation Army will 'liberate' Manchuria without any real effort; although, considering vastness of the territory, it'll be aLong March.In 20 years the latinisation of the US will be very advanced. California etc will be Mexican without a reconquista!!!!!!!!Hasta la vista!!!!!!! Fri 22 Jan 2010 17:35:45 GMT+1 Simon21 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=78#comment162 161. At 1:22pm on 22 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:Re#160Predictions that the former British colony in America will not make it and eventually will fall upart have been floating aroound for over 200 years.Check in another 200 wheter U.S. has indeed collapsed disappeared."Didn't that happen when the US elected a black liberal as president? Fri 22 Jan 2010 17:29:45 GMT+1 Peter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=78#comment161 " I realize that the opposition to healthcare reform in the USA must be baffling to people in other developed countries, it is for some of us as well, but regardless of reason it is apparent that most Americans are not in favor of significant reform to our healthcare system. From what I can discern from listening to speeches and reading articles on the subject what people want and expect are minor changes to the system, rather than a major makeover. If they just get rid of the pre-existing condition clause, coverage caps, rejection due to chronic illness, limit ever rising premiums, and reduce the amount of co-pays and out-of-pocket expenses most people will welcome the change."I'm bloody sure they would. I recently googled terms like co-pay and out-of-pocket expenses to find out what they were. It's appalling that people put up with this state of affairs.... but ... (and it's a big one)You have identified most of the problems with the US healthcare system that are apparent to the rest of the word, and they are not minor, nor are they easily fixed, and you definitely can't dom it without detailed legislation controlling what the insurance companies can and cannot do. By definition, this would be a significant reform to your healthcare system. It's not even a case of wanting to have your cake and eat it. You seem to want to eat the cake without ever going to the cake shop. > It will be a long time, if ever, before socialized healthcare is accepted in the USA, and the sooner the Democrats understand that the better off they will be.Socialised health care, whether it's Single Provider like the NHS or Single Payer like Canada, has the advantage of being simple and easy to explain. Everybody contributes. Everybody is covered. It's also cheaper. If you don't want to go that route, and the US public seems reluctant to even think about it, then you are left with some sort of complex balancing act, like the HCR bills that the Senate and House have passed so far, which are opposed (depending who you ask) for going too far and/or not far enough. Or the status quo, which is, as you explained, dreadful. Fri 22 Jan 2010 15:51:40 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=77#comment160 Re#160Predictions that the former British colony in America will not make it and eventually will fall upart have been floating aroound for over 200 years.Check in another 200 wheter U.S. has indeed collapsed disappeared.If EUSSR is still around by then, that is. :-) Fri 22 Jan 2010 13:22:40 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=77#comment159 158. At 08:52am on 22 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:zaphoadian observes (#156): at the moment they [Chinese] are attempting to run a communist state along capitalist lines.'Some people would call is an oxymoron. Although some communist oxes might have a difficulty of understanding a 'moron' part.'We say Urals, they say Ulars, once the average Chinese peasants realise that they're responsible for their economic boom they're going to want their share of the pie, & they're not going to want to walk a long way to get it either :)America may just have sold its' political system (or perhaps ensured that it now comes with a reciept) but at least it sold it, it didn't just run away with it & ordered everyone to shut their brains down. Fri 22 Jan 2010 09:20:25 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=76#comment158 157. At 08:40am on 22 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:'Please, repeat your inquiry in Zulu times. :)':) We shouldn't laugh, perhaps pretending that you live somewhere else gives your online persona a greater depth, although for that to work you'd have to be fairly shallow to begin with. Fri 22 Jan 2010 09:15:13 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=76#comment157 zaphoadian observes (#156): at the moment they [Chinese] are attempting to run a communist state along capitalist lines.Some people would call is an oxymoron. Although some communist oxes might have a difficulty of understanding a 'moron' part.BTW. During my conversations with the Chinese I've found out that they pronounce "Ural" - Ular.So let me correct myself: By 2050 at the latest they'll start a Long March toward Ular Mts. :) Fri 22 Jan 2010 08:52:29 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=75#comment156 Re #152 zaphodian asks (not me): Do you know if it will be am or pm? :)Please, repeat your inquiry in Zulu times. :) Fri 22 Jan 2010 08:40:02 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=75#comment155 154. At 08:00am on 22 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:Chinese Peoples Liberation Army will 'liberate' Manchuria without any real effort; although, considering vastness of the territory, it'll be aLong March.[Not that the Chinese won't start marching toward Ural Mts by 2050 :)]Maybe, but at the moment they're attempting to run a communist state along capitalist lines, over the next few years that may just keep them busier than expected. Fri 22 Jan 2010 08:36:18 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=74#comment154 Re #140 ranter wrote:Tricky used that already " Let me make one thing perfectly CLEAR" "I am not a CROOK" HUH?Are you refering to Dems denying C-SPAN an access to health "reform" proceeding?P.S. I don't think Mr. Obama is a crook; he's simply just another lawyer. Fri 22 Jan 2010 08:34:45 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=74#comment153 133. At 7:59pm on 21 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:NOBODY EVER DEFEATED DEMOGRAPHY.BTW. Peaceful reconquista of Manchuria by the Chinese has already began many years ago.zapohoadian remarks: They're sneaky aren't they? It'll still take them years though, it hardly seems worth it.No, it's worth it. Chinese (mostly Manchurians with strong emotional attachment to their ancestral land) are not exactly looking for riches (although there's plenty of gas off Sakhalin and gold in Kolyma); they are simply looking for a living S P A C E.And believe me: there's plenty of almost empty space in both, Primorski and Khabarovski Krai, particularly since local Russians are moving (or even are being moved, for economic reasons) west.In 20 years PRC won't even have to use its huge, and quite modern (unlike in 1969) armed forces much:Chinese Peoples Liberation Army will 'liberate' Manchuria without any real effort; although, considering vastness of the territory, it'll be aLong March. [Not that the Chinese won't start marching toward Ural Mts by 2050 :)] Fri 22 Jan 2010 08:00:18 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=73#comment152 Ref 128, powermeerkat"And she may still become our Commander-in-Chief!"SaintDominick: So does Sarah...Can I chose Angelina? [high motivating skills]Or Julia?[Julia Roberts at least knew what had to be done to end Soviet occupation of Afghanistan - if you recall the movie, at least;)] Fri 22 Jan 2010 07:29:43 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=73#comment151 147. At 00:03am on 22 Jan 2010, JMM wrote:You are in big trouble my friend. The Shyster family have just taken out a hit on you. Guido will be paying you a call in the near future. Don’t mess with that “family!”Do you know if it will be am or pm? :) Fri 22 Jan 2010 06:48:15 GMT+1 ranter22 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=72#comment150 Read it here:http://www.ft.com/indepth/g20 Fri 22 Jan 2010 06:17:23 GMT+1 CuriousAmerican http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=72#comment149 to all the lib "true belivers" out there, I have one very important message for you.....nanana...nananana..........(sticking both thumbs in my ears and wiggling all my fingers while making goofy eyeballs and sticking out my tongue)I hope Obama keeps up the "good work". He is doing a great job of representing how great libs and democrats are when they have absolute power...If I new he was going to be this great of an epic failure I would have voted for him myself...It's looking alot like Jimmy Carter part 2 around here lately... Fri 22 Jan 2010 05:28:08 GMT+1 ranter22 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=71#comment148 Isn't life in America wonderful. One thing we are is resilient Other countries may be crumbling and falling into a different type of chaos, but we have the patent on the democratic right to self implode if we choose to.Not too long ago and with so many safety rules in place, one of our bridges in Boston went dark.It wasn't a power outage though, it was a deliberate shutting off. All because the funds to keep a public byway lit weren't available. That people might have been hurt or killed as a result became irrelevant, no money? totally relevant.So some came to the rescue from private sources and kept it lit for a while. They must have gotten an infusion from somewhere because it hasn't gone dark since b4 Christmas, oohh, I said a bad word, sorry. I meant holidays. Yet some others would have abandoned City Hall and move to a new location, costing , I don't know how much money. This hasn't happened though thanks to G_d, yeah that works. We are disposable citizens. Paying taxes, city, state, federal, S.S., HMO's, and into retirement funds among others essential things. For what it seems to be a lifetime, and then we get old. Right about then we become a burden to the Governments. They took the money and now they want us to go out peacefully, with dignity, like civilized people. What is so civilized about signing out? What other country has this over civilized requisite. To my knowledge no government anywhere else seeks to control an age group's existence. If you know one please tell me. People themselves may elect to end their time on earth, but as an individual choice.No pressure. Anyone who wants to exit this world anywhere on earth can do so. You can't throw them in jail afterward can you. The insurance companies would perhaps not be amenable to suicide because they would have to pay out if it became a law. Maybe staying alive is more expensive, but not to the insurance or life insurance I should point out. Could be that together with the medical establishments, the health insurance companies have struck a deal on this. I can't tell yet.What i do know now is that if any of you need any money, like a big big loan, then all you need to do is move to a participating g20 country or a newly accepted developing one, and establish contact with the g8--soon to be g12 or 10-- then tell them you are helping to develop that particular federation place and hitch an agreement with its leader. Soon you will come to possess what you would have never ever dreamed of, if you had stayed in the USA. Billions of dollars to help develop (franchise) Partners in federation of continents and willing participants to oust poverty from the face of the world. Not that there will no longer be poor people there, but that there will be more poor people here. Are you poor now? Just wait a little longer, once those four pillars of the plan start to vertically hold the horizon in place. But truly I love this country. Heck I even like the people sometimes. It would be better if we could just stop being first at everything though. One thing we can't ever be first at anymore is telling a lie. Now Scott goes in driving a truck, Patrick came in driving a dodge or Chrysler, I lived right next door to the gilded domed governor's place and have met The governor a few times--not as friends- as he walked by with his body guards. But that was when he was first elected and since then a big Black Cadillac strolls by with him in it. Scott, don't turn your truck in. It is a symbol now. Besides we probably would have to pay for a new one anyway. So go get rich; Be that American in a third world country with the privilege to be a direct liaison and serve, knowing that all of us a home nave unknowingly financed, the reconstruction at the expense of our own destruction, the building of a first federation, of the new intercontinental world order. Fri 22 Jan 2010 04:59:02 GMT+1 Markorion http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=71#comment147 Massachusetts was a disaster, Coakley ran a fairly useless campaign. And now the US will be stuck with it's seriously awful healthcare system for the forseeable future. It's amazing that a country as rich as the US cannot have a functional healthcare system with insurance for all. Fri 22 Jan 2010 02:40:41 GMT+1 McJakome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=70#comment146 271. At 10:58am on 21 Jan 2010, zaphodian wrote: RE: 265. At 09:10am on 21 Jan 2010, squirrelist “Also instead of tort reform why don't they just cap lawyer fees?”You are in big trouble my friend. The Shyster family have just taken out a hit on you. Guido will be paying you a call in the near future. Don’t mess with that “family!”275. At 12:21pm on 21 Jan 2010, charlieatlantic wrote to @DavidMurrell"I am viscerally opposed to Blackwater, and to any private military contractors being employed by a government in place of a traditional state-run army. It is bad policy, it is unconstitutional and it makes accountability almost impossible. None of the examples you cited will find any defense from my corner. I'm in complete agreement."Ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!3. At 01:59am on 21 Jan 2010, wcorey wrote: “Concern about what's in the massive health care reform legislation is the tip of the iceberg in terms of why people voted for Brown….Yet, it happened, and the political ripples are being felt all over the U.S.A. The popular ire was aimed at Democrats who have the power, and the Democrats had better understand this.”In my case it was also aimed at Republicans [the other end of the corrupt catdog party]. This so-called reform, full of pork and unrestrained spending, as well as more money for the insurance companies, was not good. Give us a single-payer, less expensive, optional [but available to anyone who wants it] national insurance plan [or regional or state-by-state]; or at least stop the abuses of the insurance companies and give us a workable universal private insurance plan that some countries like Switzerland have.Mostly, I am not angry at Obama, I am angry at the corrupt government of Massachusetts that cut the jobs of fire and police while handing out $150,000 jobs to unnecessary political hacks. Our legislators, politicos and government job holders receive far too much in their “pay packets” and much too generous bonuses [free parking in Boston when the public pays $20 per hour, Cadillac Health Insurance, etc.]!Reign them in or give them what the royal governor got!Where is Daniel Shays when we need him? Fri 22 Jan 2010 00:03:20 GMT+1 ranter22 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=70#comment145 She will have my vote then. But in the meantime it would make for an interesting game. B.Ball isn't one of my very favorite sports, but I wouldn't want to miss that one.Should the winner be Pelosi-N- O. well then I'll wait and see.I give McCain Props Because he served with distinction. Thu 21 Jan 2010 23:31:11 GMT+1 MagicKirin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=69#comment144 ranter22 wrote:Just in case Brown really meant the challenge to Obama, Lets see if we can set the tone early on. This would have Brown, Ayla, McCain, palin, against Obama, Michelle, Biden Pelosi.The winner takes 2012._________________________Well even though McCain can lift his arms above a certain leval, Sarah Barcuda and Ayla played college ball. If they plays 80 style Palin will knock Obama down a few times in the lane. Thu 21 Jan 2010 23:10:07 GMT+1 ranter22 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=69#comment143 Just in case Brown really meant the challenge to Obama, Lets see if we can set the tone early on. This would have Brown, Ayla, McCain, palin, against Obama, Michelle, Biden Pelosi.The winner takes 2012. Thu 21 Jan 2010 22:57:17 GMT+1 MagicKirin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=68#comment142 Next Mass Democratic target Bill Delahunt, Joe Malone is going to run against him.I hope that the 10th district will rid itself of Hugo the Dictators second biggest stooge.Oh for those who believe Keith Obermann's lie about Brown being a right wing conservative tea bagger. Brown is supporting McCain in Arizona not J D Haworth. Thu 21 Jan 2010 22:28:39 GMT+1 Pass Torian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=68#comment141 Come on! Obama's got beating in Massachusetts? Such faulty assessment may lead only to faulty, meaningless conclusions. The right probe of what happened in Massachusetts ought to concentrate on why people of that state rejected Ms. Coakley in favor of Mr. Brown. People of Massachusetts have no problem with identifying Ms.Coakley worthiness for their state so why should the rest of us be kept in dark? Moreover, why the rest of us should be led astray? It has nothing to do with Obama; it is simply a local election with people expressing their sentiments through voting booths. It is obvious that Obama administration disappointed many people, on many fronts, but to connect this, in essence, with failure of Ms. Coakley has no valid basis. Thu 21 Jan 2010 22:10:04 GMT+1 ranter22 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=67#comment140 Only a small amount though, just to set this right, enough to tell the truth. Thu 21 Jan 2010 21:54:42 GMT+1 ranter22 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=67#comment139 It nay be true that many already are dying, some related to lack of proper medical cure or treatment. 'Health CARE' among others buzz words seems to take on a newly taken for granted meaning. The proper title if that's what is truly intended then ought to be "Medical Treatment Unlimited For All." But that's not proper. The trade off then is the inclusion of those without proper access to those who do and should die as well. The death camps scenario has been downplayed, the language has been re- scripted. All the same, Peddling faulty wares to the beloved citizens, way to go!Lets try not putting too much money into the International Monetary Fund and not draining any from the existing systems. Because all of the currency available to so many other countries is coming from your tax dollars and from your programs, Programs and collections diverted so conveniently with earmarks for on thing and then go elsewhere. Giving money up in times of economic chaos is not unlike treason. Who is letting who down now. While the still living have to go without, the dead and not any longer needful get memorials. Save the Memorials for when the economy is good, there was no rush. Besides the person TK had if not over 100 million, the pretty close. Money in store for national defense and the military funding.It really does not make a big difference though because if not from that fund then from screwthe taxpayer pledge fund. Somewhere we lost track of transparency, Oh, that's right we can't see transparent, another buzz word. Tricky used that already " Let me make one thing perfectly CLEAR" "I am not a CROOK" HUH?They all need a shot of Pentothal. Thu 21 Jan 2010 21:52:14 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=66#comment138 138. At 9:10pm on 21 Jan 2010, MarcusAureliusII wrote:It would likely bankurpt China and Europe which I view as an added benefit.We don't need you to bankrupt us thank you very much, we're doing fine on our own :) Thu 21 Jan 2010 21:26:48 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=66#comment137 Simple Simian;"Who did Kennedy beat? Oh yes tricky (I did nuddin, I tell ya ****xxxx nuddin") NixonWhat a relief!"You must be a fool, you don't know anything about history. Less than two years after the election, Kennedy's weakness and stupidity resulted in a crisis that brought the human race to within hours of total extinction. Not a joke or an exaggeration, study the Cuban missile crisis and find out just how close the US came to total thermonuclear war with the USSR in October 1962. Szechuan Chicken;If you'd read my other postings, you'd know I've advocated massive printing of money by the United States Treasury and distributing it to American citizens to rekindle the economy, devalue the currency and debt making payback to China in very cheap 80% discounted dollars possible, and very high import tarrifs to keep the money inside the US and imports out. This would stimulate investment inside the US, repatriate entire industries exported abroad to evade American wages, building codes, workplace safety codes, and polution laws. It would likely bankurpt China and Europe which I view as an added benefit. Thu 21 Jan 2010 21:10:13 GMT+1 squirrelist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=66#comment136 135. At 8:20pm on 21 Jan 2010, zaphodian wrote:132. At 7:56pm on 21 Jan 2010, squirrelist wrote: (Look, we're not supposed to do funny on this blog. People complain.)Drat, still learning the rules, I loathe complaints :) Well, actually, to be strictly accurate, it's the Yanks who usually complain ; p Thu 21 Jan 2010 20:50:01 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=65#comment135 133. At 7:59pm on 21 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:NOBODY EVER DEFEATED DEMOGRAPHY.BTW. Peaceful reconquista of Manchuria by the Chinese has already began many years ago.They're sneaky aren't they? It'll still take them years though, it hardly seems worth it. Thu 21 Jan 2010 20:24:56 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=65#comment134 132. At 7:56pm on 21 Jan 2010, squirrelist wrote:(Look, we're not supposed to do funny on this blog. People complain.)Drat, still learning the rules, I loathe complaints :) Thu 21 Jan 2010 20:20:33 GMT+1 SaintDominick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=64#comment133 Ref 128, powermeerkat"And she may still become our Commander-in-Chief!"So does Sarah... Thu 21 Jan 2010 20:15:20 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=64#comment132 Re#129got to go now, zaphodian, sorry. But if you bother to find one of my earlier posts somewhere in this blog addressing specifically an issue Russian military 'might' and Russian military industry, and try to do some research yourself, I'm sure you'll realize that all Russian army is good for these days is FOR attacking a midget like Georgia.[Nay, it can't even pacify tiny Chechnya and Dagestan]Besides population ratio of PRC vs Russian Federation is 10:1 andNOBODY EVER DEFEATED DEMOGRAPHY.BTW. Peaceful reconquista of Manchuria by the Chinese has already began many years ago.Check for example what's been going on in so called Khabarovski Krai.regards, Thu 21 Jan 2010 19:59:47 GMT+1 squirrelist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=63#comment131 130. zaphodianROTFLOL(Look, we're not supposed to do funny on this blog. People complain.) Thu 21 Jan 2010 19:56:23 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=63#comment130 No, David Murrell (#127)You don't have a slightest idea what GULAG is. Just as you don't have an idea what tRud is. You don't even have a clue.Of course you don't remember 50's, or even 60s: that's patently obvious.["Don't know much about history"] That's why you make references to ideas and ideologies which have been dead not for years, but for decades. [such as socialism]But remember also that people who don't remember past are bound to repeat it.P.S. By "your" funds in Iceland I meant BRITISH funds in Iceland.Where people are going to decide whether to pay their debts or not. Thu 21 Jan 2010 19:41:53 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=62#comment129 123. At 6:48pm on 21 Jan 2010, SaintDominick wrote:Unfortunately, education, intellect, honesty and a vision often take a backseat to charisma and looks and, in that regard, Sarah is definitely a political tsunami and someone to keep an eye on...and I don't mean just politically!Okay but you really don't mean politically do you? I mean, if Sarah Palin was a political animal she'd be the first to hunt it down :) Thu 21 Jan 2010 19:37:14 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=62#comment128 25. At 6:51pm on 21 Jan 2010, David Murrell wrote:'GH1618 - But the Haitian capital port has been destroyed, so you have to transport people either by air or land to get to the ship. As I said I don't have an issue with using the US Navy or their Cuban base, just offering an alternative, one which I understand a number of Haitians are already using.'What you're saying makes sense but it also kind of makes sense for the Americans to use Guantanamo, there's no problems with deciding who's in charge, the place is huge & already equipped to cope with the demands of a lot of tired, injured & hungry people. It also puts it in the news for better reasons than the usual ones as well, the Dominican Republic is close at hand but poor itself, if the burden falls upon it to cope then we'll have two countries to support & not just one. I think that the US is doing sterling work in Haiti but the confusion over who's in charge of who between them & the UN should never have arisen. Thu 21 Jan 2010 19:15:20 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=61#comment127 Saint Dominick opines: Sarah is definitely a political tsunami and someone to keep an eye on...and I don't mean just politically!Now, now, what's wrong Hillary's looks?["It Takes a Village"]And she may still become our Commander-in-Chief! Thu 21 Jan 2010 19:13:44 GMT+1 David Murrell http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=61#comment126 Powermeerkat - Sorry I am actually correct Gulag is exactly the description I gave.Look I am not the one who keeps giving the dodgy quotes (dodgy because it seems at least some of them are rubbish) or references to people who have been dead for years. Oh and the 1950's thing smarts, yes I really do want to go back to the 1950's, but there is one small issue I wasn't born until the '70's so my recollection might be off, a bit like some of your quotes!Iceland? Fine, thanks for asking I have gotten all the money back I invested, which equals the relevance of your question.... None. Thu 21 Jan 2010 19:07:10 GMT+1 zaphodian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=60#comment125 117. At 6:13pm on 21 Jan 2010, powermeerkat wrote:but China's only hope to acquire more Lebensraum is to regain an almost empty now, currently Russian-occupied Manchuria.China can't afford to annexe any more territory surely? They have more than enough people in China itself to monitor without getting involved with anyone who's been reading unsupervised, imagine if some of them had seen a magazine? What if someone smuggled another comic in? It just doesn't bear thinking about, besides, apart from the gas van all Russia has left is the army these days, they'd probably object. Thu 21 Jan 2010 19:06:19 GMT+1 David Murrell http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=60#comment124 GH1618 - But the Haitian capital port has been destroyed, so you have to transport people either by air or land to get to the ship. As I said I don't have an issue with using the US Navy or their Cuban base, just offering an alternative, one which I understand a number of Haitians are already using. Thu 21 Jan 2010 18:51:28 GMT+1 hms_shannon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=59#comment123 post76 Yanked Around,Man that was a sobering post,America must spend time & money on its self.The fear of imagined threats,causing that massive military complex to drainfinances,so that looking after your own is neglected,can not be right.Fromthe perspective of over here,the soviets broke by arms spending on a reducing industrial base,do not follow them.You do not need F22s & trident systems to sort out the BenGun look alike party... Thu 21 Jan 2010 18:49:28 GMT+1 SaintDominick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=59#comment122 Ref 100, Magic"I can't see any edidence that Sarah Palin could do worse than Obama."Sarah's intellectual acumen makes Martha look like a genius.Unfortunately, education, intellect, honesty and a vision often take a backseat to charisma and looks and, in that regard, Sarah is definitely a political tsunami and someone to keep an eye on...and I don't mean just politically!Sorry, this old man is 100% heterosexual and very appreciative of the wonderments of mother nature. Thu 21 Jan 2010 18:48:43 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=58#comment121 Re #115 Squirrelist : "If you want things to stay the same, you just have to make it look as though they're changing". [Lampedusa]Meerkat:"The more things change, the more they stay the same" Thu 21 Jan 2010 18:44:39 GMT+1 PartTimeDon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=58#comment120 104. "I think his constituents might disagree (though quietly )"Quiet disagreements are rare in Kirkaldy. Thu 21 Jan 2010 18:43:39 GMT+1 SaintDominick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=57#comment119 Ref 90, arclightt"It may also mean that we need to take this to a different level (e.g. a balanced-budget amendment)."Absolutely, but judging by our track record on the subject of fiscal responsibility it will take a miracle to pass legislation that forces our government - and by default us - to live within our means.I would love to see an Administration with the courage to tell us that if we want the services we currently enjoy we will have to pay for them or accept reductions to ensure revenues and outlays are balanced. Can you imagine what will happen to whomever suggests such a preposterous notion?The problems is that neither the "conservatives" nor liberals have any interest in cutting back their pet projects, and the public is content charging and signing IOU's that we have no intention of honoring. A society that worships and survives on credit cards is not about to forego B2 bombers, crusades, or getting everything they see without worrying about how to pay for it. We often boast about our sense of fiscal, personal and social responsibility, but in practical terms we don't even know how to spell those concepts. Thu 21 Jan 2010 18:42:00 GMT+1 squirrelist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=57#comment118 95. GH1618:I take your point. After the last eight years, I'm positive, were I to be 'captured' from the sea after suffering the worst earthquake in 200 years and told I was being taken to Guantanamo Bay, the first thing that would come into my head would be the need to practice a few nautical expressions. Like 'Splice the mainbrace!' or 'I see the sun's over the yardarm, Cap'n.'(I wonder why I bother, sometimes, I really do.) Thu 21 Jan 2010 18:39:05 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=56#comment117 Re #105 GULAGThat's tRudovykh, David [ please, check what 'trud' means in Russian]And if Castro Bros' Cuba is a Gulag due to U.S., how come that Cubans have been desperately escaping for decades (whenever they can) to.. ehmm...U.S.? :-)))P.S. Hate to tell you that, but IMHO, it's people who still believe in socialism and a socialist system who are living in the 80s.Or perhaps in even in 1950s. "Das Kapital" without a capital won't succeed.And socialism has always been able to generate only one thing: MISERY!BTW. How are your funds in Iceland doing? Thu 21 Jan 2010 18:38:57 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=56#comment116 Re#104Zaphodian observes:Innovation requires freedom to think, that's going to really annoy China.You don't have to 'Google" in China to know that. ;)But it's much more serious that that.PRS is running out ot arable acreage. Which has been shrinking.Due to uncontrolled industrialisation, desertification (cf. Gobi's encroachment), incredible (and growing) contamination of its soil and water, air pollution, etc.Having 1.4 billion mouths to feed sure doesn't help.Neither do growing independence movements in Tibet, and more importantly, in East Turkestan (which Beijing calls 'Xingjiang').[While Tibetans are Buddhists, Uighurs are Muslims and Turkic and they're not going to roll over and play dead, current repressions notwithstanding]I hate to tell you this almost exactly on the 40th anniversary of Ussuri clashes- which almost resulted in nuclear exchange between USSR and PRC -but China's only hope to acquire more Lebensraum is to regain an almost empty now, currently Russian-occupied Manchuria.Sapienti sat.Please stand by for further developments. Thu 21 Jan 2010 18:13:00 GMT+1 GH1618 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=55#comment115 David Murrell (#107) "why not the Dominican Republic after all that’s even closer?"Actually, it's not closer, by sea, to a port of entry. More to the point is that Dominican Republic is a sovereign country. It's up to them to provide whatever assistance they will. Thu 21 Jan 2010 17:58:32 GMT+1 squirrelist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=55#comment114 "If you want things to stay the same, you just have to make it look as though they're changing". [Lampedusa](Might not be perfect, I'm quoting from memory, but you get the idea . . .) Thu 21 Jan 2010 17:48:17 GMT+1 MagicKirin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=54#comment113 ref #96I am not from California but Boxer has a lot of negatives.Her lack of respect for the military during congressional hearings.Her history of obstructionalismHer abrasive personalityI think with Harry Reid she is the most threatened Democratic leader in the senate. Thu 21 Jan 2010 17:38:39 GMT+1 U14284230 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=54#comment112 the voice of an independant;)" can't see any edidence that Sarah Palin could do worse than Obama."hardly surprising really. Thu 21 Jan 2010 17:31:34 GMT+1 GH1618 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=53#comment111 One aspect of this election which hasn't been discussed is why Massachusetts Democrats chose Coakley over Capuano (a Congressman) in the primary. Primary voters in both major parties sometimes choose the weaker candidate for the general election, but that's how democracy works. Thu 21 Jan 2010 17:30:51 GMT+1 U14284230 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=53#comment110 97 right on.86 right on. (sorry you are not stupid ) but many are. 89 assumptions or tell more of the truth? lol I am amazed at how many of the republicans that were republicans before Obama ran, became independents who just happen to dislike obama.78most independents still think Republicans are lower than whale excrement -lol made me think of whale vomithttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4642722.stm76 Yanked around. and in the 76 slot. the posting oof a true patriot. I'm with you. except I left the UK to come here.It was n ot the healthcare that made it so.OR charlie if you turn up. where do you live and what sort of healthcare do you have. as a poor musician. Thu 21 Jan 2010 17:30:12 GMT+1 powermeerkat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=52#comment109 meerkat asksed: have I mentioned that KGB gen. Oleg Kalugin has been living quite happily in Washington Metropolitan Area? :-)))))))))))))))))))Simon21 replied: No you haven't, but here's the thing, you can keep him in the Washington metropolitan area ;-0.The rest of us really don't mind at all.Meerkat: Well, that's good to know. Because you seemed to awfully mind KGB Colonel Alex Litvinenko living in London, didn't ya? Thu 21 Jan 2010 17:25:45 GMT+1 ranter22 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=52#comment108 # 92 Simon21Yep, sometimes if they capture the heart the mind will follow suit.If they capture the mind the may heart may still follow Capture both:And it is either, Affectionate devotion or Ruthless conquering. Thu 21 Jan 2010 17:25:34 GMT+1 John_From_Dublin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=51#comment107 # 73 powermeerkat "[I fully realise that many aficionados of a certain major IRA fundraiser from the great state of Massachusetts my take offense]"You've said this at least once before - I assume it is a reference to Ted Kennedy?If so - any actual proof of this allegation? Since as I recall he worked closely with both the Irish government and the SDLP, neither of whom were fans of the IRA Thu 21 Jan 2010 17:25:07 GMT+1 David Murrell http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/dfssss.html?page=51#comment106 GH1618 – While I have no issue with the refugees going to the naval base, why not the Dominican Republic after all that’s even closer? I am sure the US and others wouldn’t begrudge giving the necessary supplies. Thu 21 Jan 2010 17:22:57 GMT+1