Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html en-gb 30 Fri 01 Aug 2014 02:30:03 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html AlfretonRSC_77 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=98#comment56 Good luck to Notts, hope the fans enjoy the ride!However, I predict Notts getting to the premier league in about 5 - 7 years time and doing a Wigan. i.e. when the investors realise what it actually takes to sign decent players (in the prem) they will back off. Also good players only want to play for the best clubs, thats why Wigan/Fulham etc arent able to sign the better players. When it comes to the prem, it takes more than just money. Man City vs John Terry/Kaka.Then there is the attendences issue. There just isnt the backing there for Notts. Just like Wigan FC and Wigan Rugby League FC, Notts have Forest who take by far the biggets share of football going support in Nottingham. That wont change either. You cant buy fans. Sure a few thousand extra might turn up but ther is no way you will ever turn 4500 average into 30,000! 6000 magpies bothered to turn out on Saturday for Notts' first game at Meadow Lane under Munto Finance and Sven. Pitiful. The other half of the 12,000 gate came from accross the Trent. That said, I hope the Notts fans enjoy the ride. Tue 28 Jul 2009 15:38:32 GMT+1 bigdirtyjames http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=96#comment55 FAO Konvictz: # Göteborg * Svenska Cupen Winners 1979, 1982 * Allsvenskan Champions 1981, 1982 * UEFA Cup Winners 1982# Benfica * Portuguese Liga Champions 1983, 1984, 1991 * Cup of Portugal Winners 1983 * SuperCup Cândido de Oliveira Champions 1989 * European Cup Runners Up 1990 * UEFA Cup Runners Up 1983# Roma * Coppa Italia Winners 1986# Sampdoria * Coppa Italia Winners 1994# Lazio * Coppa Italia Winners 1998, 2000 * Italian Super Cup Winners 1998, 2000 * UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Winners 1999 * UEFA Super Cup Winners 1999 * Serie A Champions 2000This says he is a good manager in my eyes. He didn't do well at England, but International management is different to club management. Mon 27 Jul 2009 12:47:31 GMT+1 avinamoan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=94#comment54 I think good luck to Notts County. It would be great to have another nottingham club climbing the divisions instead of the other way around. As for the money? Of course it buys success, look at Blackburn Rovers for instance. Not only did it buy success but it has led to them becoming a stable premiership club. Notts can do the same but only if the money is invested wisely and time is given because they are starting from a very flat position. Building up support will take years but potentially they could hit 20-30k in the premiership. Forest have been the dominant club in the city but this was no always the case historically. 50% of football fans are fickle and would rather watch premiership than championship football. Its going to be very interesting times in Nottingham. Mon 27 Jul 2009 06:08:42 GMT+1 Simon Austin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=92#comment53 #34...DANINPBORO: What are the names of the backers you allude to? Would certainly be very interested to know their names and how you found out.... Sun 26 Jul 2009 20:05:07 GMT+1 Jammie Dodger http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=91#comment52 Will Counteh enjoy the money in the same way Sven enjoyed Ulrika? Sun 26 Jul 2009 15:28:58 GMT+1 Webbo™ 3-2 to the Famous team http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=89#comment51 It's alright saying the catchment area has 800,000 people in it, but not everyone is a football fan. We have cricket, Ice hockey and Forest plus the Rugby club whose fans would deffinately steer clear of Meadow Lane after their disgraceful treatment.Notts may add a couple of more thousand to their gate but the people of Nottingham will not flood there in thousands. Before shooting me down... Look at Wigan, Fulham etc etc.... big crowds?I don't think so Sun 26 Jul 2009 11:17:34 GMT+1 Forestjeff http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=87#comment50 Just want to say good luck to County although im glad its them and not us (forest). Their new owners seem to be quite ruthless, ie kicking nottingham rugby club out of meadow lane within minutes. And lets be honest, they dont really care about Notts County do they? Its just another money/publicity making scheme for them (which I dont blame them for either). Im glad we've (forest) got an owner who is actually a fan, and got a few quid too. He's invested in the club, but in a sustainable way and in the right areas for growth. I hope this happens at County too but it has to be in a way which allows the club to grow over a period of time - a long period of time. To many times have we seen the boom and bust of football club investment.I do hope it proves good for County, although if the owners get bored or the venture proves fruitless, I wonder what will happen then?? Big money spent can easily turn into big money taken away. And if that happens it could prove disasterous!Money in football can change things massively and this could prove to be fantastic for the County faithful, alternatively it could prove fatal. I hope, for County fans, its the first. Sun 26 Jul 2009 09:59:36 GMT+1 simeywimey http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=85#comment49 notts county in europe-haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! yeah right see you in the blue square premier!! only way you'll get into europe is on holiday! Sun 26 Jul 2009 08:45:59 GMT+1 cyprussamo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=84#comment48 I look at the area and think there is a wider picture. Forest have long planned a move from the city ground and the current owner interational financier Nigel Doughty has proposed plans for a site a mile down the River Trent. This site is also promoted as a possible World Cup Stadium.County's Stadium is good but also in a prime city centre location close to the river waterfront and has long been a site for redevelopment.It would make sense for the forest and county owners to have discussed the possibilty of a joint stadium development for the benefit of the clubs and the city. Munto Finance? Specialised Investment Fund? Property Developers I think. And no bad thing all round as Forest will need a spanking new stadium for Premium league football! Sun 26 Jul 2009 08:37:43 GMT+1 Phanson83 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=82#comment47 I actually think this is a good appointment, Sven isnt the manager at all, he is simply in charge of youth development and overseaing the purchasing of new players, and a man like Sven with his rep in the game is surely going to attract better players than say if it was John Smith, or Billy Bob from down the road. Also lets not forget that as a manager Sven is used to the lower leagues already, thats where he started his managerial career with Degerfors where he won promotion. And as for him being a failure i dont see that at all, he took an England team to two World Cups and a Euro, with an over hyped England squad, and at Man City he did very well, i remember everyone before the season started had tipped them for relagation scrap. Sun 26 Jul 2009 08:19:39 GMT+1 Peter D http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=80#comment46 Name brand is important, Notts Co were around when what is now Manchester United were Newton Heath. History in football matters. I would not be surprised if Notts County sees some success, these owners would put a Museum or Hall of Fame near the ground. You can only do that with a unique property and Notts County has that as the first Football League team, they are where it all began. It is also of note the investors interest in Sheffield teams, Sheffield Rules preceded Football Association, I would hazard a guess they are buying up football history to make some huge marketing move.. Sun 26 Jul 2009 02:01:08 GMT+1 wtawhelan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=78#comment45 Sven at Notts Count!! If anybody cannot see the magnitude of this statement, has no real appreciation for the growth of the English game... I state 'English game', as we always hear of people complaining about all the foreigners coming in and ruining the game, well i tell you, if an arab/indian/asian/American etc walks up to you and hands you ten grand, are you going to stand by your short-sighted, patriotic views... didnt think so sunshine.... Somebody of Sven's wealth and life-long appreciation of the game, is not going to accept a job like this due to money... I can almost guarantee he has extensively researched the long term aspirations and perceived competitve advantages that can be gained by being 'the oldest club' in the game... that is a MASSIVE selling point, and has got me interested. I have never watched a Notts County game, nor really known of them, but i will be making more time to watch their progress. For a neutral that just loves the sport, i applaud Notts County, and hope to see them playing for places in Europe not before too long...In short, it is about time that teams other than top-flight received some recognition.... and why is it so absurd that a league 2 team have a world-class manager like sven... i just hope it starts a trend.....Will (a liverpool fan, angry with so-called football fans that always complain about foreign investment.... you wourldn't be complaining if your workplace was being closed down and some investment came from Japan etc.... nah, people are too short-sighted in their patriotic beliefs that they miss the whole concept of an economy..) Sun 26 Jul 2009 00:23:29 GMT+1 cliveeta http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=77#comment44 If I were a Notts Co. fan I would be really excited right now! A world class ( well nearly) manager and a cash infusion will get them into the Championship in no time. Achieving the Prem might take a few years but then if everyone realizes this is a long term project then it should go well. Getting training facilities and an academy upo to scratch shows they have the right attitude too. County in Europe in 5 years- it might happen. Sat 25 Jul 2009 21:56:28 GMT+1 snidey http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=75#comment43 33. At 01:00am on 25 Jul 2009, blackley90 wrote:These new owners have kicked us out leaving nottingham rugby with out a home to play , basicaly killing the club leaving us with no ground no money to play for the next season . I dont no if any one cares but not you're right. I don't. Sat 25 Jul 2009 21:22:02 GMT+1 G_K___ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=73#comment42 "They are very, very private people and want to keep a very low profile"So... erm... they bought a football club, and signed one of the highest-profile managers in the game.Good one!They're either telling porkies, or very, very stupid. : ) Sat 25 Jul 2009 20:01:41 GMT+1 simeywimey http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=71#comment41 right here goes my thinking is what has erikson acheived in english football,no doubt there are loads of county fans wetting themselves thinking they are going to win this league-you need to take a reality check one man and some money doesn't change you suddenly to league champions a lot of media interest will be on county this season now.there a lot of better teams in this league before this happened who were better equiped to win this league,other teams will want to turn county over because of who they are now and who manages them.you were on of the favourites to go down now suddenly joint favourites for the league!!!i personally can't wait for it to go pear shaped and you end up trying to win relegation as usual and hopefully achieve it this season and drop out the league completely! Sat 25 Jul 2009 18:07:52 GMT+1 Barca London http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=70#comment40 Man From Milan wrote:Sven reminds me of one of those new age gurus, an absolute quack but somehow he always manages to convince someone with loads of money that he knows what he's doing. How does he do that!Anyway, good move by Notts County, they wanted to generate some press interest and here we are, talking about them. So far it's working.-------------------------------------------------------------------------Agree with what the above wrote.When will anyone see through Eriksson for what he is.An overrated hack.The only reason why he is at Notts County is because nobody else wanted him. Sat 25 Jul 2009 16:36:17 GMT+1 Tony Geo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=68#comment39 Funny how the Premier League made a great issue about Portsmouth's new owner and whether he was a fit and proper person and where his money came from. Funny because it seems the owners of Notts County are not known and the League do not seem to care Sat 25 Jul 2009 16:30:25 GMT+1 yunga-SWFC-GERS (ALAN IRVINE'S BARMY ARMY) http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=66#comment38 This just all sounds like men with too much money want a bit of fun.The financial impact of the new owners at County will see them favourites for the League Two title this season, but ask any Leeds/Sheffield Wednesday/Forest fan that the pressure playing at home in these bottom leagues under big crowds back fires. I don't think County will go straight up this season, there is always an immense sense or unnecessary pressure on these players before a ball has been kicked.Money does buy you success because Blackburn, Wigan & Fulham have done it before. But, was there this much media coverage when their Millionaires came to the helm?I think there is too much pressure on this football club for instant success. 3 year plan to the Championship. No chance. Sat 25 Jul 2009 13:51:07 GMT+1 Were Ngoging to Ibiza http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=64#comment37 post 4 is a pretty poorly thought out comment being honest, leeds were a club that dropped down divisions then lost their best players, were massively in debt and had a chairman who couldnt care less because he had managed to embezzle some nice funds for himself, it was a completely different situation, not least because until recently they had absolutely no money so it wasnt buying their way out, theyre still feeling the repercussions of the financial problems to this date. most of the time buying success in these divisions works, up until the championship then it is a bit harder as there are many more financially competitive teams. i think if they work on the club youth system and improve the infrastructure and give sven the time and the right staff, they are going to get at least as far as the championship within 4 years, as long as they make sure they put as much effort into bringing through good young players as the problem with a lot of new money clubs is they dont run the club in a sustainable fashion so when the money goes, the players leave and the club is in trouble, if they get the good youth system in place it will be a lasting legacy which will help the club compete for years to come Sat 25 Jul 2009 10:14:39 GMT+1 andyrobKIA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=63#comment36 reply to 33not a massive rugby fan but was very disappointed to see this move by the new owners. I understand the damage caused to the pitch is bad, but it seems like a ruthless decision to terminate the deal so early in their ownership. Is this a sign of things to come? I hope the rugby club can continue elsewhere and wish them all the bestall the best to county too Sat 25 Jul 2009 09:42:33 GMT+1 U11846789 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=61#comment35 "Is sven a good football manager, does he understand the game?"Go read Wikipedia."Buying a club because they are the oldest club in the world does not really make sense".If I was a multi-millionaire, interested in getting into football, I'd certainly consider a club like County. The potential and the history make it a sure-fire long term prospect.Buy it for a few million, invest. Take it up to a decent Championship level or lower PL level. Then get an even richer family to buy it out. PROFIT made.There's precious little profit to be made in buying off-the-shelf PL teams. Sat 25 Jul 2009 09:38:41 GMT+1 translucentman http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=59#comment34 money has nearly always bought success.. just look at the top of the premier league.. that said Hull, Stoke, Burnley have shown in recent years that hard work and a good team spirit can get you to the promised land.. but speaking as a Hull City fan be warned if and when you get there all that glitters isn't gold... you'll soon find your ground full of happy clappers and corporate types, you might not even be able to get a ticket sometimes and the community spirit will be lost... also don't expect to get many ref's decisions against the 'big' clubs.. i for one would like to see county have some success for the genuine long suffering supporters. i just hope they don't end up like QPR with 5 different managers in 18 months.. whatever happens i'm sure Sven will get by on his modest salary........ Sat 25 Jul 2009 07:22:35 GMT+1 JoDan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=57#comment33 At 4:33pm on 24 Jul 2009, Gerrardswhiskers wrote:The Al-Thani family aren't like Thaksin. They are the royal family of Qatar. The same family that owns half of the top London hotels and also the Chelsea barracks site that was going to be redeveloped recently until Prince Charles objected to the plans. This is also the same family, different family member, that tried to buy Sainsbury's a year or so ago which was all about property that Sainsbury's hold which is seen as a very stable long term investment. If they are backing Sheff Utd then they are in it for the long term and part of this arrangement will probably involve taking young Qatari players into the reserves and/or having tours over to the Middle East. There is probably also some kind of plan related to the World Cup in I think it is 2018 where they are bidding for the rights to hold it which probably has quite a lot to do with why they are remaining out of the spotlight here. They don't want the publicity that Abu Dhabi have had with Man City and would prefer to do things the old fashioned way. It will be very interesting to watch Sheff Utd's progress and some of the snap reactions on here show how pertient it is for the owners not to have had a big press conference. It is not the middle Eastern Arab way to be completely over the top. -----------------------------------------------------------------------Spot on. As someone that has lived and does 90% of their business in the Gulf and mainly Qatar, you are right. They are here for the long term.It is to aid the 2018 and 2022 bids as well as aiding the 2011 Asian Cup they will hold. The 2006 Asian Games shows what Qatar can achieve.It is not difficult to find out which members of the royal family are involved, amazed the writer could not find this out. This has been separated from Qatar Diar that was behind Sainsbury etc and 2 of the 8 most powerful Al Thani's are involved heavily. Notts County fans, enjoy the times ahead, you deserve some success and the Qatari's will help you deliver it. Sat 25 Jul 2009 00:39:26 GMT+1 blackley90 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=56#comment32 I am a young person who lives in nottingham and i am a keen rugby fan and play for the nottingham rugby club who have shared grounds with notts county for the last two seasons. These new owners have kicked us out leaving nottingham rugby with out a home to play , basicaly killing the club leaving us with no ground no money to play for the next season . I dont no if any one cares but not just as a rugby fan as a sports fan i call for opinions can any one think this is right? it is frankly disgusting Sat 25 Jul 2009 00:00:58 GMT+1 Barrymore http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=54#comment31 Does anyone yet know what the symbol in the centre of County's new badge represents? Or the colour purple?The first rumours were that both were associated with the new owners, but since the new owners are apparently publicity shy that seems unlikely now. Any clues?I wish the County fans luck and hope that the new lot in charge don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Fri 24 Jul 2009 19:01:59 GMT+1 dunnyboycheese http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=52#comment30 Middle Easterners in the Eastern Mids...genius.The thought of Sven freezing his little Swedish meatballs off on a chilly Wednesday January evening as the wind blows off the Trent between the stands is one of many delightful images that this inspired move conjures up. Not to mention Sven and Nancy meeting for a romantic night out by The Left Lion, then popping for a pint of Mild on Slab Sqaure and finishing the night off in Hooters - 'how are your chicken wings, me duck?'. Seriously, moves like this are why I love football. This is the most intriguing and potentially heart-warming story of the summer. Yes, I acknowledge that there are daft sums of money involved but that's the name of the game these days. I dearly hope that Sven, Tord and their 'mystery backers' turn out to be everything a fantastic club like County deserve. Fri 24 Jul 2009 18:40:02 GMT+1 Glen Haig http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=50#comment29 Up here in Scotland, we all remember what happened when Brooks Mileston bought Gretna and ploughed £6M of his own fortune into the club. It was fun while it lasted, but when Brooks became terminally ill and stopped funding the club, it folded.A club with a relatively small support compared to a large wage bill is a disaster waiting to happen once the owners get bored or run out of cash.On the other hand, football would be a much more dull game without this sort of thing, I hope it works out for County. Fri 24 Jul 2009 18:39:26 GMT+1 yorkiemonsterr http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=49#comment28 i think hes a bit old now and as you can see from his pervious jobs he's getting fired a lot Fri 24 Jul 2009 18:35:23 GMT+1 debatable http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=47#comment27 @WADEALGood post from a proper football fan. Much luck to both County and Forest but I cringe when sides get bought up like this. Fri 24 Jul 2009 18:07:36 GMT+1 pen2epaper http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=45#comment26 Mystery money = mystery future. It could mean an injection of cash and long term good management, but it could all end in tears. I'm glad I'm not a Notts County fan. Fri 24 Jul 2009 16:13:32 GMT+1 WADEAL http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=43#comment25 I accept that the owners want to guard their privacy. However, I want to know that my football club isn't going to be left high and dry by someone who has bought them for an idle bit of fun (if it is a business move, surely the only thing of value is the ground, which could be developed, but I'm guessing that's all the club has of any value). For the oldest league club in the world, despite the fact that we are told that due diligence tests have been carried out, the secrecy still whiffs like a bit of a dodgy deal done under a pub table, especially when the owners probably won't even pay a vist to Meadow Lane. The thought of seeing my side in the Premiership is appealing, but as a lifelong fan, it somehow feels cheap. Under Jimmy Sirrel and Howard Wilkinson the team did things despite the lack of funds, in much the same way dear old BC did with Forest at the start. Football allowed even the lowly to have a dream and gave the likes of Norwich the chance to play in the San Siro and Wimbledon and Coventry to win the cup.The biggest turn off about modern football is that the fairytales like those of Ipswich, Forest and Wimbledon coming from nowhere will only happen with silly money coming from billionaires. It is all about money rather than about the ability to spot stars and build a great team. I guess I am an old romantic, but what a sad day when you can already predict the Premier League's top three or four and know who will be in for a relegation scrap before a ball has been kicked - how throughly unexciting! As for the comments about Notts being unlikely to be bigger than Forest, this is an irrelevance. Too many Forest fans seem to forget that Forest WERE a great side over 30 years ago (I know, because I watched both teams in those days because in those days I could afford to), but they aren't a big club now and never were in terms of support and financial clout. If Notts can afford £2M a year for a manager they won't be giving him 25p to buy players (he surely wouldn't have come without the money being made available). So if they mean business the owners will be throwing some silly money at this - and they will certainly be looking beyond beating a side who just managed to avoid relegation last season and seems to sack managers for fun. Oddly enough, I think that under Billy Davies Forest will do well, and I actually think that Munto bought the wrong club (financially Forest were the better bet). Notts County's biggest problem was that even when they were in old First division they couldn't top 18,000 and they won't now - Nottingham is still not able to sustain two clubs and even if they have visions of filling the stadium with the best players in the world, the Nottingham public are so indifferent about the game that they still won't turn up. Fri 24 Jul 2009 16:00:10 GMT+1 extraordinaryhr100 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=42#comment24 I am Glenn has time to give quotes to newspapers and the BBC as he has not yet given a quote or any statement to his members since we sold the shares. Fri 24 Jul 2009 15:56:12 GMT+1 wedontknowfootball http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=40#comment23 its kind of like manchester city wanting to be bigger than manchester united here with the dream to be bigger than forest - money pumped in and everyones laughing at the idea of sven in league two.http://wedontknowfootball.com/ Fri 24 Jul 2009 15:43:35 GMT+1 dvrmmr http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=38#comment22 "when/if Notts County become a Premier League team Munto Finance will have to go through the Fit and Proper Persons Test"The club says all paperwork has been lodged for the football league fit and proper person test - frankly if the premier league tried to block a club's promotion because they don't think their shareholders tick the right boxes despite being in charge of a successful and debt free league club for 3+ years, they'll have a huge legal fight on their hands.Speaking as a County fan, we're all over the moon that after years of struggle on and off the pitch, things look like they're finally going right. So many clubs - and even more so, fans - in the doldrums of the league structure deserve something like this. We're just grateful that it's us this time. Here's hoping that the likes of Rochdale and Morecambe get to taste the (comparitive) good times at some point soon too. Fri 24 Jul 2009 15:37:27 GMT+1 gay fish http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=36#comment21 The Al-Thani family aren't like Thaksin. They are the royal family of Qatar. The same family that owns half of the top London hotels and also the Chelsea barracks site that was going to be redeveloped recently until Prince Charles objected to the plans. This is also the same family, different family member, that tried to buy Sainsbury's a year or so ago which was all about property that Sainsbury's hold which is seen as a very stable long term investment. If they are backing Sheff Utd then they are in it for the long term and part of this arrangement will probably involve taking young Qatari players into the reserves and/or having tours over to the Middle East. There is probably also some kind of plan related to the World Cup in I think it is 2018 where they are bidding for the rights to hold it which probably has quite a lot to do with why they are remaining out of the spotlight here. They don't want the publicity that Abu Dhabi have had with Man City and would prefer to do things the old fashioned way. It will be very interesting to watch Sheff Utd's progress and some of the snap reactions on here show how pertient it is for the owners not to have had a big press conference. It is not the middle Eastern Arab way to be completely over the top. Fri 24 Jul 2009 15:33:52 GMT+1 mikkh http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=35#comment20 Yes, promotion is definitely on the cards - but all the way to the premiership? Hmmm, doubtful. And the dream to be bigger than Forest, well that is funny and never going to happen, how will they top two European cups for a start?I wish them luck and hope that the Sven effect will at least guarantee bigger crowds at Meadow Lane. Tomorrows 'friendly' should be interesting ;o) Fri 24 Jul 2009 15:01:14 GMT+1 ncfcog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=33#comment19 As a notts county fan of some 30 odd years now I would just like to point out to all the doom merchants out there that I would just like to enjoy the moment while it lasts thank you! Notts fans have regulary been identified as the most depressed fans in the country, well now at least we can begin to contemplate bigger and better things.In respect of comments regarding notts being bigger than forest I would suggest that comparisons need to be made in the present, not the past or indeed the future. Therefore we are not a bigger club . . . yet! Fri 24 Jul 2009 14:51:35 GMT+1 Darts is the best sport http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=31#comment18 Am I being stupid or would one not expect Sven to have done some more research into his backers considering the money laundering allegations around Thaksin at Manchester City? Fri 24 Jul 2009 14:18:49 GMT+1 Vox Populi http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=29#comment17 At 15. What are you on about? Taking your logic, Scottish football has been fixed for decades to allow the two biggest clubs - both based in Glasgow- to dominate.Rangers and Celtic effectively get a bye into the Champions League every year because no other club in Scotland can compete with them. Then you whinge about not being able to compete with big clubs from the better leagues in Spain, England, Italy, etc. Tough! Fri 24 Jul 2009 14:03:00 GMT+1 SaudiSteve http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=28#comment16 Why is it that Leeds United cannot attract this sort of interest and investment? Again, this "Fit and Proper" test for Football Club ownership doesn't appear to apply to our club with the present "ownership" shrouded in mystery. Seems that there are rules for one set of clubs and different ones for Leeds! Fri 24 Jul 2009 13:55:42 GMT+1 Safblue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=26#comment15 I really am glad that investment of this kind is going to a club other than Premier League. But what concerns me (and this should concern Notts County fans should it arise) is that when/if Notts County become a Premier League team Munto Finance will have to go through the Fit and Proper Persons Test. I think you know where I am going with this! As a Pompey fan, we have had our new owner's finance picked at with a fine toothcomb by the media (newspapers/online and tv) while due diliganec took place, asking the same questions about his wealth and 'investment vehicle'. This has dragged on now for over 2 months and is still being investigated.Why can it be that there are 2 rules operating here. One for Premier League teams and one for lower leagues. Both have used the same structures to finance the respective takeovers. Notts County's seems to have gone through no questions asked. Pompeys is still not over (alledgedly). Any Comments? Fri 24 Jul 2009 13:48:47 GMT+1 RangerWillRobinson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=24#comment14 To the author of point 4, regarding money the assertion that money can't buy success - What about Blacburn Rovers? Rose through the divisions to the pinnacle of English football and still ahead of Liverpool in EPL wins thanks to money!At the upper end the scale, there's the self-fulfilling machine that is the Champions League - what chance is there of Forest winning it these days without cash?My club (Rangers) effectively played a CL semi-final against Marseillke when the CL was in its infancy... before they started fixing it for 4 teams from England to hoover up all the dosh.Oh, and we got there by beating Leeds Utd who were the last English champions before the Sky money poured in. Fri 24 Jul 2009 13:30:54 GMT+1 Albertaforestfan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=22#comment13 I for one am excited about the prospects of what about to happen at County, Lee Hughes will do an excellent job for the club and the prospect of Billy Sharpe, well wow!!! It'd be refreshing to get a few nottingham derbys under our belts sooner rather than later. I believe this could be brilliant for the club. But lets be honest, bigger than Forest??? In playing terms and finance, posible, in terms of local support.... Forget it!! Forest is Nottingham's team and will always remain so. Fri 24 Jul 2009 13:10:37 GMT+1 U7161659 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=21#comment12 Sven reminds me of one of those new age gurus, an absolute quack but somehow he always manages to convince someone with loads of money that he knows what he's doing. How does he do that!Anyway, good move by Notts County, they wanted to generate some press interest and here we are, talking about them. So far it's working. Fri 24 Jul 2009 13:06:39 GMT+1 billyboru http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=19#comment11 Its great in recessionary times that football is an industry attracting foreign investment. It is nonsense to say that money wont get them out of these divisions when its the very fact that the teams lower down are kept lower down because they generate less revenues and therefore they cant invest and move on. County can now do that, and they will, and they will get higher. Theres a general line that shows the clubs who spend more money get higher, of course there are variables such as misspending that means its not an exact rule - look and newcastle. But If these guys really do have and are willing to invest the kind of money people are talking about then County will get to the premiership eventually - with a few hiccups along the way. I say in 6 years. If the investment is sustained for that period. Fri 24 Jul 2009 13:02:10 GMT+1 smartyworldcouk http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=17#comment10 Amused by the comment "course we will be bigger than Forest". Pride usually comes before a fall. 'Size' is based on fanbase and history of success and Mr Moneybags isn't gonna change that in under 10 years, by which time I'm sure he'll be bored again. Chelsea is a perfect example. Roman still hasnt won the european cup once and he started with a decentish side! They are not even a 'big 4' club' despite what they think. I'll be surprised if County are in the premier league before Sven is claiming his pension. Someone should tell him the female:male ratio in nottingham of 4:1 is a myth too, poor sod. Fri 24 Jul 2009 12:55:29 GMT+1 Doctor Palacios - De Hete Spoor http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=15#comment9 "but they are showing a naivety of the game if they think they can just throw cash at a team and get three promotions." well not really, they can get the promotion s with the cash but it looks like they've considered alot more than that, top manager, amatuer team bought for apprentices, area development etc,and sorry but:Buying a club because they are the oldest club in the world does not really make sense. - yes it does, Oldest League Club T.M. will get alot of support and is a completely unique facet which will hold supporters when times are bad and the merchandising possibilities are endless Fri 24 Jul 2009 12:50:26 GMT+1 Simon Austin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=14#comment8 Beeston...that's right....thanks NG2Ranger Fri 24 Jul 2009 12:49:30 GMT+1 itseddie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=12#comment7 WERE IS ENGLISH FOOTBALL GOING TO THE WORD ENGLISH IS GONE ITS EDDIE Fri 24 Jul 2009 12:23:44 GMT+1 itseddie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=10#comment6 Fri 24 Jul 2009 12:21:16 GMT+1 dabos83 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=8#comment5 @ Comment 4 by andrewtheboom"but they are showing a naivety of the game if they think they can just throw cash at a team and get three promotions."I give you recent examples where this has recently worked: Wigan, Fulham and Peterborough (soon enough). In fact I can't think of many examples in tiers 2-4 where buying promotion hasn't worked. Fri 24 Jul 2009 12:12:22 GMT+1 superreddamo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=7#comment4 Notts are so bothered about us (forest) its funny. All these promises were made when their last multi millionaire backer came in-i can still remember the headlines. As it stands, all notts have done is hire a bloke who has failed at his last 3 jobs for 2million quid a year to do nothing involving work on the pitch. They would have been better appointing someone who knows about league 2 football because that is your reality. Across the trent we've spent the best part of 6-7million on quality players, after lean years a-plenty things are looking up for nottingham and i hope, for the pies sake, that the latest bosses aren't the same as the old!! Fri 24 Jul 2009 12:09:21 GMT+1 andrewtheboom http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=5#comment3 Buying a club because they are the oldest club in the world does not really make sense.These investors are businessmen, but they are showing a naivety of the game if they think they can just throw cash at a team and get three promotions.League Two, League One and the Championship are hard divisions to get out of, where money counts for little and history even less, as Newcastle are going to find out this season.Just ask Leeds fans.http://sportingchameleon.wordpress.com/ Fri 24 Jul 2009 12:02:57 GMT+1 WellsBrazo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=3#comment2 Did the fact that Nottingham has the only UK franchise of Hooters have any influence upon Sven's thought processes? Fri 24 Jul 2009 12:00:08 GMT+1 NG2Ranger http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=1#comment1 Thanks Simon for shedding some light on who's who and what's happening. Not too sure the training facilities will be at 'Beasley', probably Beeston. Ive also heard that Munto have bought Risley Football Club ( amateur team)to use as an apprentice/feeder team - is that true?. Rumours are abound in Nottingham at present to the point where half the city is being redeveloped!. Whatever happens it will be different. Lets hope Notts have asked for some parent guarantees. Fri 24 Jul 2009 11:57:10 GMT+1 Konvictz http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/07/svens_mystery_bosses.html?page=0#comment0 is sven a good football manager, does he understand the game? Fri 24 Jul 2009 11:50:19 GMT+1