Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml en-gb 30 Thu 21 Aug 2014 19:01:40 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=93#comment15 Like the old days today then with live sport going off air for nearly two hours just so the BBC can show something else (if F1 drivers still need "practice", they surely shouldn't be driving!)Anyway, thought it was about time to make a formal complaint again and as well as reiterating the main crux of the argument, asking why the BBC haven't looked at options to resolve this situation in the last six months.And then once that's complaint is finished, what do I find out. The BBC are too launch a second HD channel - so room for two HD channels (well, they stole space for one from Five!), but only one interactive channel. What a joke! Fri 28 May 2010 11:40:12 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=87#comment14 14. At 2:12pm on 25 May 2010, Brekkie wrote:Note you're happy to close the respected, appreciated - and most importantly watched, CBBC or CBeebies - but flinch at the suggestion the little watched and little appreciated BBC Parliament should suffer the same fate - because as you say if an extra stream is not a possibility, needs must!What do you NOT understand, there are two purely BBC kids channels as well as other content broadcast on BBC1 and BBC2 at various times, there is only one channel broadcasting pure politics, merge CBeebies and CBBC into one channel and there will still be a dedicated BBC kids channel, close BBC-P and that will be it, curtains. Brekie, you are suggesting the total removal of channel content, I'm just just suggesting a merger of such content, does it really make sense to broadcast CBBC content during the school day when the aimed for audience will (should) be at school, what is the point of CBeebies broadcasting content when the aimed for audience is more likely (should to be) in bed and not in placed in front of the TV, yes there will be times when the two target age groups will clash but that is what is called life and the sooner kids learn that life lesson the better..."Anyhow, I don't want to get into that argument with you again and I'm sure you're just as sick of it too - and we all know each others POV."I bet you don't, every time you do so you just make yourself look totally ignorant (of the situation)! BBC-P is pure PSB, it is broadcast because it needs to be broadcast, if it has no right of broadcast then no television channel has such a right, as it is, it makes do with one channel when it should have a second (and probably a probably a third) dedicated channels covering Commons, Lords and EU/Devolved Nations/London assembles. Tue 25 May 2010 14:51:47 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=81#comment13 Note you're happy to close the respected, appreciated - and most importantly watched, CBBC or CBeebies - but flinch at the suggestion the little watched and little appreciated BBC Parliament should suffer the same fate - because as you say if an extra stream is not a possibility, needs must!Anyhow, I don't want to get into that argument with you again and I'm sure you're just as sick of it too - and we all know each others POV.The point is the BBC are not considering any of these options - they just seem to think the situation is acceptable, when it is far from the case. There seems to be no mechanism in place either for licence fee payers to force the BBC to review such matters - all you get from any complaint made is a stock answer basically saying "this is the situation and you'll have to put up with it". Tue 25 May 2010 13:12:38 GMT+1 Hyperstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=75#comment12 So there is no Diving on freeview and freesat looks rubbish too Mon 24 May 2010 19:18:56 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=68#comment11 #11. At 1:14pm on 24 May 2010, Brekkie wrote:"..//.. BBC Sport doesn't need a 24/7 channel - they need a flexible operation with streams needed as and when required.There really is no "or" and "but" about this IMO - the solution is simple and possible - an extra stream on the BBC mux. ..//.."What do you not understand, that option, for what ever reason is not there any more (yes the BBC should never have contracted their spear capacity but we have to contend with how it is now), so another solution is needed now - the merge Cbeebies and CBBC and the closure of BBC Three [1] is the ONLY realistic option, otherwise we just have to expect things to carry on as they are. I also did say, a full time (or at least primarily), yes if there is no sport then it can be used for other content, would make a very good place to show important debate from either lords or the EU, would make an excellent place for music concerts, even a place for overnight educational TV - Teachers TV and the (unrelated) abandonment of Open University broadcasting has been an unmitigated disasters to the intellect of the nation IMO...[1] If BBC Two was to revert to the sort of content held pre 1990 then I would not object to the closure of BBC Four but unless that were to happen the content now on BBC Three is a better fit on either BBC One or Two. Mon 24 May 2010 12:45:57 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=62#comment10 There is no justification for doing that though - CBBC and CBeebeis are both popular and distinct services, and as has been said time and time again BBC Sport doesn't need a 24/7 channel - they need a flexible operation with streams needed as and when required.There really is no "or" and "but" about this IMO - the solution is simple and possible - an extra stream on the BBC mux. That is far more important than those few extra bits to make the picture only slightly better. Knowing the BBC though now they've flogged their two streams on the old Mux B for pre-DSO regions they'll argue they can't do it till all regions switch, meaning we're stuck with this situation till 2012! Mon 24 May 2010 12:14:58 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=56#comment9 9. At 01:11am on 24 May 2010, Brekkie wrote:"The point is though to cover the BBC's commitments that extra stream is an absolute must - but the BBC seem unwilling to listen to our complaints."Or, just merge CBeebies and CBBC, close BBC three (much of the unique content of BBC Three can be found a home on either BBC One or Two), and thus use the freed space on the mux to create a full time (or at least primarily) BBC Sports Channel, which the existing ch301 being used for extra or excess content - as originally intended. Mon 24 May 2010 08:18:14 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=50#comment8 True, but competitive action should always take precedence - and no reason F1 fans shouldn't suffer like the rest of us do from the lack of a second stream. The point is though to cover the BBC's commitments that extra stream is an absolute must - but the BBC seem unwilling to listen to our complaints. Mon 24 May 2010 00:11:58 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=43#comment7 #7. At 9:26pm on 22 May 2010, Brekkie wrote:"with Radio 1 getting it back in the evening."Why?! This Radio One event is a music concert, it only needs an audio feed, it already has that via LCN ch700."Bad call though to put F1 practice ahead of the French Open on Friday - it's "practice", it's not core action"But it is, Brekkie you prove that you are an 'armchair' sports fan (certainly were motor racing is concerned), for the fan, F1 practice is part of the race, just as in horse racing the pre-race paddock activity is."It could easily have been shown on Freeview in the evening instead."For that mater, so could the Tennis! Sat 22 May 2010 21:30:17 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=37#comment6 Exactly - think the French Open causes problems - just wait until Wimbledon. The even more annoying thing - the BBC struck a deal with Arquiva over two extra channels - and rather than using at least one of them to restore an interactive stream, they're being rented out for Sky Sports from next season! Even if the BBC aren't in a position to rent space on other muxes, they should be now be looking to increase space on their own mux - they operate with fewer channels than all the other muxes, so should considering the need for it be able to squeeze another one in.Anyway - back to the French Open. Good call tomorrow giving the athletics the priority, but I think the French Open should get the slot in the morning, with Radio 1 getting it back in the evening. Bad call though to put F1 practice ahead of the French Open on Friday - it's "practice", it's not core action and as such when there is competitive action going on elsewhere it shouldn't be on the stream. It could easily have been shown on Freeview in the evening instead.And back to Radio 1 - bad call tonight to interupt the Big Weekend in order to simulcast BBC1 all evening. Music fans are better served by the live coverage than "Over the Rainbow singalong" - and frankly if people want to singalong, they can use subtitles. And the In it To Win It playalong could easily have been dropped too - people can play along without doing it through their TV.With space now limited such services should either be dropped or reformatted so they can appear as an overlay on the BBC1 stream. Sat 22 May 2010 20:26:38 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=31#comment5 I've given up complaining, it is bl**dy obvious that the BBC don't care a flying fig about the anger felt by annoyed Freeview users - the BBC seem to care more about the non-core iPlayer... Fri 21 May 2010 13:25:48 GMT+1 Chris http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=25#comment4 @3 French Open Tennis is showing on freeview 301, from 10am to 7pm, daily from monday, with occasional breaks for other events, such as F1 practice on Friday. Thu 20 May 2010 17:48:16 GMT+1 Michael http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=18#comment3 "Here's our regular look at what's coming up under the red button..."More like here's our regular look on what's not coming up on Freesat! Thu 20 May 2010 11:31:55 GMT+1 MyVoiceinYrHead http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=12#comment2 Ok, I understand we Freeview lovers had to lose 302 / 303 to allow bandwidth for HD. But why can we not have French Open coverage during the day at all. Having it broken off for all the above events is far enough. But to not show any coverage doesn't seem right. Thu 20 May 2010 10:35:45 GMT+1 Hyperstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=6#comment1 Any chance of restoring 302 any time soon? Sun 16 May 2010 19:48:30 GMT+1 Chris http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/05/whatson-8may.shtml?page=0#comment0 Any chance you could keep the epg for 301 on freeview up to date? Its been all over the place the last few days. Fri 14 May 2010 17:14:28 GMT+1