Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml en-gb 30 Thu 17 Apr 2014 19:53:42 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=97#comment34 #34. At 5:55pm on 16 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:"Re: BBC Parliament. The space just isn't there at the moment for a linear TV channel though. ..//.."That comment just proves that you have not checked what is being broadcast on the channel during the election period - the need for BBC-P is probably greater now that when parliament is sitting!"..//..the BBC should seriously consider closing BBC Parliament, and instead using a Democracy Live interactive service when required."Do feel free to find a clue (and how many times have you got to be told), if the BBC stopped wishing to broadcasting the channel then the channel and it's content would probably be handed to another broadcaster (via Ofcom/HMG/parliament), that might actually mean that the BBC would loose even more channels due to the way the broadcast muxes work.BBC-P has more right to be on Freeview that any sports coverage, don't like BBC-P being on Freeview, don't vote!... Fri 16 Apr 2010 19:26:46 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=94#comment33 Re: BBC Parliament. The space just isn't there at the moment for a linear TV channel though. The BBC is still covering politics with the rather excellent Democracy Live website, and if no new streams are made available the BBC should seriously consider closing BBC Parliament, and instead using a Democracy Live interactive service when required. Fri 16 Apr 2010 16:55:39 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=91#comment32 The snooker is going to cause a nightmare and it's one sport where additional evening coverage on BBC4 for example would be justified considering BBC2's hours have not been extended (though personally like with cricket it's also one sport I think the BBC are best recording then playing at about 10 times the speed later!).The "not available on Freeview" list from BBC Sport for the rest of the month is pretty ridiculous. I know no decision is easy and it's annoying that World Cup Diving isn't seemed more worthy than early rounds from the snooker, yet surprisingly European Gymnastics gets the nod ahead of Final Score. Now as a sports fan rather than football fan I approve of that (as scores can be found on Soccer Saturday or via the text pages), but I'd expect to be in the minority. Fri 16 Apr 2010 16:49:14 GMT+1 Chris http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=88#comment31 It was nice to see classic f1 on freeview last night. Thanks. Thu 15 Apr 2010 08:23:27 GMT+1 John Horth http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=85#comment30 Apologies to Freeview viewers for the lack of Outnumbered last week which, as you may have spotted, was dropped for over-running coverage of the golf.Although there are no plans to re-show it on BBC Red Button, Thursday's extra material is now available to view on the Comedy Extra website:http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/extra/video/p0078hvz Tue 13 Apr 2010 11:43:12 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=82#comment29 29. At 3:16pm on 12 Apr 2010, CHRIS BENSON wrote:"Another idea - surely whilst BBC Parliament is in recess through various breaks in the year, we got use that channel on Freeview for sport?The problem there is that it is still broadcasting live content, both election content and debate from the Scottish Parliament, this is on top of using the time to catch-up on recorded content that hasn't yet been broadcast. Mon 12 Apr 2010 20:12:13 GMT+1 CHRIS BENSON http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=80#comment28 As a Freeview viewer, i've been disappointed on a couple of occasions over the last couple of days. Particularly, Thursday night, Outnumbered was instead replaced by the Amen Corner Golf overrunning - surely a repeat of Outnumbered could have been scheduled for later in the week before Thursday? There must be one night free for an hour loop of Outnumbered before Thursday's new behind the scenes feature? What disappointed me most was that the EPG didn't update - so viewers were still led to believe Outnumbered was coming on? As a snooker fan, I don't look forward to the Freeview red button coverage next week, how it's going to be on one channel, I do not know.Another idea - surely whilst BBC Parliament is in recess through various breaks in the year, we got use that channel on Freeview for sport? I'm not asking for BBC Parliament to go permamently, just a use of the space during holidays! Could come in handy during this year's World Cup and Wimbledon coverage, and would beat repeats of the 1979 General Election and other stuff they normally show in recess! Mon 12 Apr 2010 14:16:46 GMT+1 Fiona http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=77#comment27 What happened to 'Outnumbered: Interviews and Extras' on Freeview 301 listed for 22:25-23:50 on 08/04/10?The golf appears to be being played on a loop with a live feed on BBC1 - I've now reached the point of telling the players in advance whether their shot is successful! Thu 08 Apr 2010 22:27:29 GMT+1 Dino71 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=74#comment26 It's 10.50pm on Thursday 8th April: where's the promised "Outnumbered" behind-the-scenes on Freeview red button? All I'm getting is golf. Thu 08 Apr 2010 21:51:38 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=71#comment25 Thanks Andrew for your comments on the Freesat issue - would be great to get a full blog from one of you one day discussing it further - do get the feeling in some ways Freesat is being taught to run before it can walk.Back to Freeview and the Election Multiscreen. Ridiculous it's overnight only - yes of course live events like the Masters and other sport, plus content such as the Outnumbered stuff on Thursday night should still get priority, but I think for the next 4-5 weeks the continuously looped content shouldn't be on air full time during the day and I think Weekend Wogan should have it's hours cut during the day and thee Election Multiscreen be given an outing in daylight at key times during the day. Tue 06 Apr 2010 16:38:57 GMT+1 Hyperstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=68#comment24 They rather show golf then the motogp this Saturday on 301 which is on BBC Two Tue 06 Apr 2010 14:42:47 GMT+1 Andrew Bowden http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=65#comment23 On Freesat, we are a small team and we have limited resources which have to be spread over a large range of services. We are busy working on Freesat, and have spent a lot of time bringing BBC iPlayer to the platform. There's another project ongoing at the moment which I can't really talk about however we all think it's very exciting and it will be on Freesat first, and will hopefully address some of these differences. Keep an eye out in the Summer! Tue 06 Apr 2010 14:39:58 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=62#comment22 #22. At 7:05pm on 05 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:"And why on earth did the BBC agree to (indeed create) a Freesat standard that doesn't serve their needs."See my comment @ #19, the standard does server their needs, unfortunately the platform (at the moment) doesn't, due to circumstances beyond the control off all but the Gods - or have I misinterpreted your comment? Tue 06 Apr 2010 10:09:53 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=60#comment21 A note to the sports page writers that curling isn't skiing and cycling isn't swimming!And why on earth did the BBC agree to (indeed create) a Freesat standard that doesn't serve their needs. Mon 05 Apr 2010 18:05:09 GMT+1 Chris http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=57#comment20 Why do you need a replay of F1? Watch it live like the rest of us. Besides, BBC2 showed a repeat of the whole race in the afternoon. Mon 05 Apr 2010 11:42:02 GMT+1 Hyperstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=54#comment19 They didn't show a replay of the F1 action Sun 04 Apr 2010 17:47:17 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=51#comment18 #18. At 10:34pm on 03 Apr 2010, Paul wrote:" ..//.. But I digress. The question regarding Red Button video I have is simple: what is the hold up in implementing the MHEG application for freesat non-sport multiscreen?"As I understand it, you eluded to the reason, lack of bandwidth available to the Freesat platform, the problem is that there is a lack of satellite capacity until the launch and commissioning of a new satellite (to replace a failed satellite). Sun 04 Apr 2010 10:17:54 GMT+1 Paul http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=48#comment17 Re: Post 14.Unfortunately not, as the Red Button services on Sky boxes are run by software provided to Sky by a company called OpenTV. Sky pay a large license fee to OpenTV for the rights to use the OpenTV software in Sky boxes.Freesat boxes do not use the OpenTV software, but instead uses a free system called MHEG. The freesat Red Button system had to be re-written under MHEG, which is why it wasn't available day-one when freesat launched, and a separate freesat-specific implementation of the Sports Multiscreen had to be created in time for the Beijing Olympics.The freesat datastream containing the data for the text pages is different to the datastream used by the OpenTV version of Red Button text, which is why the content is different between the two platforms. There isn't the bandwidth available in the freesat datastream to support all of the pages that are on the Sky version of Red Button text.But I digress. The question regarding Red Button video I have is simple: what is the hold up in implementing the MHEG application for freesat non-sport multiscreen?Paul. Sat 03 Apr 2010 21:34:50 GMT+1 Sue_Aitch http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=45#comment16 Well, yes Hyperstar, but there was Scrum V on 301 on Good Friday evening and the Doctor who audience on Freeview still hasn;t has its liten of the End of Time Part II television podcast. Sat 03 Apr 2010 10:25:08 GMT+1 Hyperstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=42#comment15 So im seeing the same 1 min thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again on freeview Fri 02 Apr 2010 18:26:14 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=40#comment14 This bloody arrogant 60 second Dr Who looping trailer is the most annoying load of carp the BBC has done in a inflicted on the TVL payer in a long time, someone from the meerkating dept. needs to receive their P45 over this abuse of the one and only BBCi video stream on the DVB-T platform. Fri 02 Apr 2010 16:09:26 GMT+1 Hyperstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=37#comment13 Can we not just have the sky service on freesat? Fri 02 Apr 2010 11:14:55 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=34#comment12 Has it? The last reference I can find to interactive TV on Freesat is back in Sept 2008 after Sport Multiscreen launched, ending with "To be continued...". Still waiting for the sequel!I highly doubt Freesat is incompatible with such service (if it is, it's a scandal it was allowed to launch when it's not fit for purpose), but if for some reason it is, are alternative avenues not being explored - for example, using the iPlayer on Freesat to provide any looped interactive video content? Thu 01 Apr 2010 17:17:08 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=31#comment11 #11. At 1:17pm on 01 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:"The silence is deafening on the Freesat question."I think that is a bit unfair, how many times (in the age of Google) should anyone have repeat themselves, the reasons why Freesat has limited services has not changed and thus nothing new can be said. Thu 01 Apr 2010 12:37:46 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=28#comment10 The silence is deafening on the Freesat question. Thu 01 Apr 2010 12:17:03 GMT+1 Hyperstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=25#comment9 They should be commit to free to air broadcasting so Freesat should get all contact on BBC Red Button like tPlay Along and Glastonbury Wed 31 Mar 2010 17:25:59 GMT+1 Paul http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=22#comment8 I second some of Brekkie’s comments. The template for a Freesat Red Button Video service exists in the form of the Sport Multiscreen service, so writing the MHEG code to replicate the OpenTV code used by Sky’s boxes isn’t reinventing the wheel.If, however, bringing non-sport Red Button video to Freesat also requires the video streams to be replicated on a different multiplex (thus costing additional money to uplink them) because of an incompatibility between MHEG and OpenTV stream data, then I understand the problem. But as no one is telling us what the problem is with rolling the service out to Freesat boxes in a timely manner, we’re all in the dark and getting frustrated.There’s over a million of us Freesat users now. Enough punters to justify extracting the digit, one would think? Mon 29 Mar 2010 17:32:32 GMT+1 AaronLancs http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=20#comment7 RE: 3.Here Here.(Rant Mode ON)Give Uu Freeview Viewers The Complete Commentary For Doctor Who 'The End Of Time' And We Will Stop Complaning.(Rant Mode OFF)Thanks. Mon 29 Mar 2010 09:21:01 GMT+1 Hyperstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=17#comment6 We should have more contact like letters pages. Also have a world clock and cookery section Sun 28 Mar 2010 13:48:16 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=14#comment5 It's being discussed whether radio channels should be removed in Scotland to make way for the little watched BBC Alba, so no reason why this can't happen nationwide and the interactive stream returned, with the radio channels being put back on other muxes as they were originally.It all comes down to bad management of Freeview though - channels have been allowed to launch without any thought to protecting the platform for the future - and indeed still are launching despite the obvious issues with BBC channels being withdrawn to make way for HD. If the mux operators hadn't been allowed to exploit their short term greed the space could have been reserved in preparation for one mux being removed to make way for HD so that we wouldn't have needed to lose any channels come DSO.If the BBC can't get another stream out of it's own mux (and I believe they could considering other muxes operate with more than 7 TV channels) they need to get at least one slot from another mux - and put BBC Parliament there, using it's current space on the BBC mux for the second interactive channel. And no excuses about not putting BBC channels on a non-PSB mux - it's better 90% of Freeview viewers can access something than none at all. Sun 28 Mar 2010 12:03:58 GMT+1 Sue_Aitch http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=11#comment4 RE my message 3. I've since realised Scrum V this Good Friday is an all Wales affair. Doctor Who is BBC Wales Cymru production: i'm not going to win this one! Shame S4C doesn't have an interactive channel for English Audio options ... Sun 28 Mar 2010 08:29:04 GMT+1 Hyperstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=8#comment3 You need to restore 302 on freeview by buying that Ideal Extra space off Ideal World Sat 27 Mar 2010 20:26:18 GMT+1 Sue_Aitch http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=5#comment2 Just a reminder that BBC Three Freeview viweres have still not had the Audio commentary choice for the Tenth Doctor's End of Time Part 2 episode. I was hoping for it on The pregramme is being shown at 20: 05 on Good Friday. Any chance of a rethink? Sat 27 Mar 2010 11:26:11 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=2#comment1 Is there any progress being made with Freesat considering it's been a couple of years now since the Sport Multiscreen and key parts of the BBC Text service were put on Freesat - but there seems to have been virtually no progress since.Most of the content above is little more than a video stream, which surely requires nothing more complicated than the application to bring up the BBC Sport Multiscreen video stream, so why more isn't on Freesat is baffling.Choices for interactive seem very poor at the moment. Freeview service has been decimated to make way for HD, and considering it's already proven a huge problem during the Winter just wait until the summer. During Wimbledon for example the BBC have two simultaneous afternoon World Cup games to show, which no doubt will get priority over tennis leaving the BBC2 match as viewers only option - if it's not dropped for CBBC or something stupid.Freesat is fine for sport, but nothing else. Cable isn't even an option for most, whilst Sky may have everything, but it's not a route many licence fee payers want to go down - and I personally find the interactive and text services excruciatingly slow in comparison to Freeview. Fri 26 Mar 2010 22:23:28 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/03/whatson-27mar.shtml?page=0#comment0 "Throughout the election campaign and on election night itself BBC News will be running a special Red Button multiscreen service devoted entirely to the election. Here viewers will find highlights of each day's campaigning including live and recorded elements.The service will be available 24 hours a day on Virgin and Sky and overnight on Freeview."How does that fit the BBC's PSB duty, when the majority of the nation will only be able to access it if they work night shifts or are insomniacs, the BBC needs to resort Freeview LCN302 immediately and for the duration!Also, not only do we still have to endure the Danny Baker show making cheap TV out of a radio show now we get Wogans Sunday frecking show too... Fri 26 Mar 2010 21:13:13 GMT+1