Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml en-gb 30 Mon 31 Aug 2015 13:57:48 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=94#comment17 Looking at the red button guide (on the red button!) it's clear how losing 302 has seriously hampered coverage this time. The 3 or 4 extra streams Sky have are basically looping 2-3 hours of content during the day, which the extra stream 302 could easily cover during the day and give viewers the option of either brief highlights of extended event specific coverage.Overnight they'd still be a few things Freeview viewers would miss out on, but not much - last night for example having the option of the mens skeleton live would have really been appreciated.I just hope all these comments don't stop here. Over this blog, sport editors and Roger Moseys, plus the 606 forum, there's easily a couple of hundred posts pointing out how the lack of the extra interactive stream is ruining the BBC's coverage of these games, and these comments need to get to the people who can make the decisions - and I know the bloggers here on the interactive stream would like it back as much as we do, so please use these comments to support your argument.The BBC have now signed a deal with Arquiva regarding two additional streams, but the plan at the moment is to let these to the highest bidder (which likely means yet more shoppoing crap on Freeview). The deal needs to be struck now to make at least one of those slots available to the BBC to compensate for the two lost due to HD. Fri 19 Feb 2010 17:36:01 GMT+1 cthatcham http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=88#comment16 As it is the 19th today - where is the schedule for the coming week?Very, very frustrating to be without the second interactive stream on Freeview, especially as the commentators don't seem to realise that we can't see the other five channels available to satellite and cable viewers.It would be much better if you didn't keep repeating the same events on 301 several times during the night as most people have some form of recording device.I have found that we get about an hour of new events (never a whole event from start to finish, just "highlights") in the after midnight 301 slot. The other events shown are just repeats of events shown before midnight. WHY? What are we missing? Is the BBC in league with satellite and cable providers, trying to force us to abandon Freeview and spend previously unnecessary money on cable or satellite? Fri 19 Feb 2010 13:20:00 GMT+1 Hyperstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=83#comment15 Rubbish view needs sorting out now. We have silly +1 and shopping channels instead of BBC Interactive Thu 18 Feb 2010 14:38:47 GMT+1 James F http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=77#comment14 Trying to watch Olympic Ice Hockey Canada tonight before 3am I found figure skating on bbc2 and number 1 on red button at same time. This meant no freewiew of ice hockey. Could red button schudelers make sure 1 is always alternative. Stayed up to complain. Wed 17 Feb 2010 03:19:54 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=72#comment13 #12. At 10:50am on 12 Feb 2010, Brekkie wrote:"And going back to the whole HD thing, I'm rather pissed off that to avoid people who want HD having to sign up to Freesat or a non-subscription package from Sky (for little more than they'll have to shell out for a HD box), those who want a decent interactive service now have little choice other than to sign up to another service to get it."Rubbish, as you said yourself, they can use the internet, such content really would be better served online, after all it's exactly what the internet was created to do - what is more, it would be truly "interactive", rather than the one way relationship that Teletext and Digital Text is in reality.... Sat 13 Feb 2010 13:26:31 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=66#comment12 #12. At 10:50am on 12 Feb 2010, Brekkie wrote:"That's the problem though - the BBC is more answerable to politicians than the general public so that sort of attitude persists. I doubt even MPs watch BBC Parliament."You are entitled to your opinion. My opinion is that people like you, those who object to BBC-P, should loose your right to have an opinion - especially a voice via the ballot box!"A linear TV channel isn't the best way to cover Parliament anyway - it really would be better served online with live streaming from both houses and then on demand coverage of select committees etc."But that is where we are, the problem is that, unlike you and I, some people do not have high speed internet - assuming that they have internet access at all - thus the internet can not be the only method of accessing the BBC-P type content.There is no other universal way of obtaining a television feed in the UK for political events and happenings, unlike should you want more film channels, more sport, more drama, more documentaries, more music, more kids programmes etc. - yes you might have to dip your hands into your pockets and pay, hard cheese...BBC-P is the ONLY channel of it's genre, thus BBC-P has more rights to exist as a channel in it's own right than any other genre. Sat 13 Feb 2010 10:39:13 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=61#comment11 That's the problem though - the BBC is more answerable to politicians than the general public so that sort of attitude persists. I doubt even MPs watch BBC Parliament.A linear TV channel isn't the best way to cover Parliament anyway - it really would be better served online with live streaming from both houses and then on demand coverage of select committees etc. As regard to the interactive situation, my point would be that when required BBC Parliament could use the space if it were converted into an interactive channel (and perhaps revamped into a split-screen interactive service so it can offer live coverage of the Lords and Commons), but BBC Sport aren't allowed to use Parliaments space when the need there is actually greater.If space on Freeview wasn't as restricted as it is now it's fine to offer viewers what they think they "need" - but as space is at a premium, surely it's more important to offer viewers what they "want".And going back to the whole HD thing, I'm rather pissed off that to avoid people who want HD having to sign up to Freesat or a non-subscription package from Sky (for little more than they'll have to shell out for a HD box), those who want a decent interactive service now have little choice other than to sign up to another service to get it. Fri 12 Feb 2010 10:50:25 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=55#comment10 #9. At 12:43pm on 11 Feb 2010, Brekkie wrote:"BARB now releasing figures for BBC Red Button. The Freeview stream alone gets four times the total number of viewers on all platforms of BBC Parliament, a clear indications of where the BBC's priorities should lie."If the BBC didn't TX Parliament some other broadcaster would be (the old "The Parliament Channel" used to be part of ITV in the days of On-Digital IIRC), it's a protected channel - by an act of Parliament, within one of the broadcast Bills/Acts that allow DVB-T in the UK.BBC-P is not there for what people want (entertainment or even infotainment), it's there because it is what people need, it would be nice to make a horse drink as well as being able to lead it to the water trough though... Thu 11 Feb 2010 16:32:38 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=50#comment9 LOL - doesn't align at all then! Thu 11 Feb 2010 12:44:23 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=44#comment8 BARB now releasing figures for BBC Red Button. The Freeview stream alone gets four times the total number of viewers on all platforms of BBC Parliament, a clear indications of where the BBC's priorities should lie.Channel Av.Daily Reach Weekly Reach Av. Weekly Viewing 000's & 000's & Hr:Min %BBC Parliament 128 0.2 673 1.2 * *BBC RB 6780 649 1.1 2,579 4.5 0:01 *BBC RB 6780 11 * 58 0.1 * *BBC RB 6785 2 * 15 * * *BBC RB 6786 4 * 32 0.1 * *BBC RB 6787 2 * 16 * * *BBC RB 6788 6 * 46 0.1 * *BBC RB 6789 0 * 0 * * *BBC RB 6880 18 * 58 0.1 * *BBC RB 6881 264 0.5 1,025 1.8 0:02 *BBC RB 6882 31 0.1 211 0.4 * *BBC RB 6883 6 * 35 0.1 * *BBC RB 6884 40 0.1 279 0.5 * *BBC RB 6885 30 0.1 217 0.4 * *BBC RB 6886 111 0.2 634 1.1 * *BBC RB 6890 27 * 135 0.2 * *BBC RBFREEVIEW 301 533 0.9 1,949 3.4 0:04 0.2(probably won't align once posted, but can be seen here: http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyViewing?_s=4)I'm guessing 6780 and 6881 are possibly the Sport Multiscreen and News Multiscreen respectively? Thu 11 Feb 2010 12:43:37 GMT+1 Jose Watch http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=38#comment7 This post has been Removed Tue 09 Feb 2010 02:35:33 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=33#comment6 http://www.dtg.org.uk/news/news.php?class=countries&subclass=0&id=3663I hope now this paves the way for at least one interactive channel to return - it's already clear how crucial that second stream was in enabling the BBC to provide Freeview viewers with a comparable service, and now a deal has been struck it would be shameful if both streams were sold off to the highest bidder when there is a clear PSB need for one of the streams.And if a stream isn't launched on the Arquiva muxes, it's absolutely clear from the efforts on other muxes another channel could be hosted on the BBC's own mux and it's absolutely clear the need is there for the second interactive stream to be restored on Freeview. Mon 08 Feb 2010 22:29:59 GMT+1 aylesbury boy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=27#comment5 Super Bowl Highlights Monday 8th February, 7.15pm - 8.45pm (Freeview)What happened here, it did not appear on my freeview, im on the oxford transmitter, will it be on again Mon 08 Feb 2010 20:19:31 GMT+1 MarkAJA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=22#comment4 Between programs on the RED button streams all you show are a few moving / spinning dots.How about having a list of RED button programs over this image.Eg.'PROGRAM NAME' starts at hh:mm on dd/mm/yyyy on stream X.From; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm To; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm PROGRAM NAME (Stream X)From; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm To; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm PROGRAM NAME (Stream X)From; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm To; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm PROGRAM NAME (Stream X)From; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm To; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm PROGRAM NAME (Stream X)From; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm To; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm PROGRAM NAME (Stream X)From; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm To; dd/mm/yyyy - hh:mm PROGRAM NAME (Stream X)You could also replace the spinning/moving dots with a BBC clock.I haven't seen a TV listing magazine that lists the RED button programs yet,so this could be useful. Sat 06 Feb 2010 19:40:39 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=16#comment3 Question - will daytime coverage of the Winter Olympics on Freeview be restricted to the looped 30-minute highlights show, or will we (and can we) have some extended delayed coverage of some events, especially events which were not shown on the red button live due to the restrictions having one stream brings. Sat 06 Feb 2010 15:42:07 GMT+1 david http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=11#comment2 What is going on with Final Score on the red button? Most saturdays i have the same problem, i go to final score from 2-30pm and within 20 seconds it turns itself over to bbc1 and no matter how many times i try it keeps on doing the same thing. Im getting totally fed-up of trying to get final score on the red button,it seems completely useless Sat 06 Feb 2010 14:56:56 GMT+1 Sue_Aitch http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=5#comment1 And please may we have an update as to whether Freeview-only viewers willl have the chance to listen to the End of Time Part 2 commentaray when the Tenth Doctor's last Episode is repeated on BBC Three in a few week's time (at least I hope it will be before we have the first full Eleventh Doctor episode. Sat 06 Feb 2010 12:48:05 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2010/02/whatson-6feb.shtml?page=0#comment0 I know this is not the period under discussion (but we are getting very close), can the "Red Button" team please give assurances that Red Button Freeview F1 coverage is not going to be cut back this year compared to last, if it is then much of the advantage of having it on BBC is have gone. I'm talking especially of any post race content. Fri 05 Feb 2010 20:49:29 GMT+1