Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml en-gb 30 Wed 26 Nov 2014 07:45:38 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml pikester13 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=93#comment15 u want wot i think but how can i say wot i feel without u removing it!!!!! The BBC short changes licence payers on freeview at every given opp!U dont ask wot we WANT but u asume wot we want.Treat the viewer like a kid an BLEEP things AFTER the watershed (9pm).Waste space on freeview wit services that are avalible on DAB .Boxing is goin of terestial tv (ITV) yet the BBC aint bovvered.Never bid for cricket then wine that SKY are 2 powerfull (they r) an then OFCOM look set to move it back 2 FTA list so u CAN get it.The quicker the BBC are made 2 go commercial the better that way u can do wot u like instead of wastin my money every ******* year.later yaw'll Wed 28 Oct 2009 19:52:39 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=87#comment14 re comment #14 and red buttons:How many red power buttons on remotes does there have to be before the term "Press Red" message becomes ambiguous? Remember that the message is informing people who do not know what the 'Red button' is or does (if that is not what is being done then why the need for the "Press Red" OSG), also remember that whilst Ceefax - from were the 'Red Button' originates - has been around for a long time now only those sets that had Fastext had the coloured buttons, so it's quite possible that some of those who have upgraded to digital TV may well have never seen coloured buttons on a TV remote before - there must be many 15 to 20 year old (or older) sets that have been converted to digital with a STB, some even possibly via a RF modulator were no phono or SCART sockets exist! Tue 27 Oct 2009 23:10:19 GMT+1 Andrew Bowden http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=81#comment13 jce951 - as I wrote the comment about the red power buttons, I'll go into a little more detail on that.The range of TVs I looked at were of a multitude of ages. For example, the TV on my desk has a grey power button with a turquoise outline round it. The TV is now about seven years old.Our office has a broad range of equipment - we regularly use TVs that are ten years old because there is no point in replacing things that work. We got our first flatscreen TVs in the office about 18 months ago, and the majority of people have CRTs on their desk.I'm certainly not someone who buys new equipment left right and centre - my home TV is a 28" widescreen CRT. It works and I will keep it until it breaks and is unrepairable.Looking at the list again, I would say most of the devices I surveyed are between 4 and 7 years old, with some newer and some older. Age of device is not necessarily a way of determining whether the power button will be red or not. One remote surveyed had a red power button and was less than a year old. Another was 12 years old and had a black one. Mon 26 Oct 2009 14:46:09 GMT+1 jce951 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=75#comment12 What a load of rubbish I refer to the comment on the red button on remote controls- these people actually believe we buy a new tv every year, not one of the tv's in four of my families housholds (thats a lot of tellies)have any other colour standby button than red!It just shows how out of touch you people really are with the audience.The whole iBBC digital/internet or otherwise is a confusing mess and its time the BBC sorted it out, its being run like a badly managed internet company, with changes nearly everyday because you are not doing your home work and leading technology any more - only following others.We used to depend on the BBC but we cannot any more, we cannot even find it on the tv (they are messing with the channel 101 on sky soon).Im glad im young (38) i feel really sorry for older people. Mon 26 Oct 2009 14:19:47 GMT+1 Sue_Aitch http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=68#comment11 Please would the Team spring clean Ceefax pages 695, 697 and 698 (for example, Feedbaak's Tlephone Number is wrong and the service Textphone users dial when contacting voice-only lines changed to Text Relay some months ago) and ensure that such updated info also appears on BBC Red Button under Help 9990 as it's a bit hit and miss as to whether the digtial service has the dame information for viewers as it's analogue ancestor. Sat 17 Oct 2009 08:06:33 GMT+1 KernowChris http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=62#comment10 Shame the Gymnastics on Freeview tonight is being destroyed by the erroneous technical difficulties caption flashing on the screen every minute ... and the BBC Phone lines are busy been hanging on twice for 10mins too. Thu 15 Oct 2009 18:12:01 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=56#comment9 Talking of that, the press red prompts should also fade out after 30 secs or so without having to be manually removed. Wed 14 Oct 2009 20:33:26 GMT+1 Lotus-Climax http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=50#comment8 I'd like there to be some way to remove/hide the Blue Menu button that is permanently on when watching on the sports multiscreen Wed 14 Oct 2009 16:35:25 GMT+1 Hyperstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=43#comment7 I would like a letters page and a games section added to BBC Red Button Wed 14 Oct 2009 15:46:25 GMT+1 Andrew Bowden http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=37#comment6 Tengsted - it's something that would make an interesting research assignment for someone. I'd love to have the time to do a thorough analysis on it, and especially compare the differences between older devices and newer ones. We haven't had any feedback that confusing power and red is particularly a problem - most people seem to understand the difference.ChrisCornwall - I'm afraid I really don't know anything on the matter, however I'll speak to the powers that be and try and find out for you. Tue 13 Oct 2009 09:32:52 GMT+1 KernowChris http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=31#comment5 #2 - Any answers on this please Andrew? Mon 12 Oct 2009 16:16:00 GMT+1 Green Soap http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=25#comment4 Hi Andrew, I posted the point back in June.I still think that the high proportion of red used for power related, and recording, functions on remotes is a good reason not to use the terminology red button.As posted on your link - "Kev" has reported a 64% red count, while in my experience, I'm at 50% for red being standby.The thing is, people posting on a Technology blog probably will not have that many problems over this - but it's the millions of people that are not Tech minded (I'm thinking of my Mum here), who don't get Press red - when there is more than one red button to chose from, on more than one remote control. Mon 12 Oct 2009 13:51:37 GMT+1 Andrew Bowden http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=18#comment3 The red button for power thing does come up every now and then, and back in June I did my own unscientific survey of the remotes on my desk and at home.The result was that only about 35% of the remotes I saw had a red power button. Surprisingly many now use green instead. There's a post about it on my personal blog where I put my findingshttp://www.planetbods.org/blog/2009/06/23/powerbuttons(n.b. it's not a BBC viewpoint/research - it was just something I looked at in my spare time as I thought it was interesting) Mon 12 Oct 2009 09:46:50 GMT+1 Brekkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=12#comment2 Completely echo that - it's bad enough that half a million viewers have lost ITV3 and ITV4 under the guise of progression without every Freeview viewer losing an interactive service too. Viewers wanting HD need to buy a new HD-box anyway (even if their TV is "HD-Ready"), so Freeview should be protected and Freesat offered as the HD option for non-subscription FTA viewing.Filled in the survey a couple of weeks back, though probably didn't get everything off my chest as IIRC the survey ends after one page of questions - I was expecting some other areas to be covered too. My only whinge(s) would be page numbers on the text pages - the analogue and digital versions of Teletext are very comparable, but Ceefax and BBCi is just a mess. With Ceefax on it's way out the justification for 4-page numbers or not using numbers on digital used for something else on Ceefax no longer holds, so it just needs tidying up.And secondly, the one size fits all approach to BBC Sport. Yes, it's better now the sport pages are integrated with the interactive services, but a bit boring it's always grey, however special the event. Considering virtually every non-sport interactive service usually gets a look of it's own, surely it's not too much to ask to give the relevant sections for things like Wimbledon, the Olympics and World Cup a more tailored look to make them stand out. Also whenever a sport is being screened on BBCi, the relevent sub-menu and key pages should be easily accessible from the blue button menu. I know on occassions with Wimbledon last year you had to navigate to the home page, then on to page 2 of the menu, and then through to page 2 of the tennis index to find things like the latest scores, something which in earlier services were accessible directly from the blue button.So for the Winter Olympics and World Cup next year those sections need to be accessible via directly via the blue button, rather than directing viewers through the menus. Sat 10 Oct 2009 16:39:22 GMT+1 KernowChris http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=6#comment1 I'm really concerned about the service on Freeview, with HD grabbing bandwidth. Can you give any assurances about the 301 and 302 services and the News Multiscreens? I fear losing two of these shortly as on post switchover areas they stand alone on the BBC'B' mux now. Could you perhaps replicate the Satellite and Cable red button services on the iPlayer or on bbc.co.uk in the near future? Fri 09 Oct 2009 21:48:06 GMT+1 TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/2009/10/whatdoyouthink.shtml?page=0#comment0 I would like you to stop calling it "Press red" (if you must call it something, how about 'iBBC'), it's meaningless, if someone presses the most prominent red button on my remote I turn the TV off! Not only that but telling someone who is colour blind to press read is not only meaningless but surely goes against all accessibility guidelines? Also you might like to get ride of the "Press Red" DOG whilst your at it, there was never any need to tell people to "Use Ceefax" via a on-screen graphic so why does the BBC seem to think that their interactive TV service is any different? Fri 09 Oct 2009 20:20:11 GMT+1