Comments for en-gb 30 Tue 22 Jul 2014 08:19:08 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at Campo-Espana Jonathan, that's interesting! Sun 12 Sep 2010 12:24:51 GMT+1 steveblack1000 #33 - 'Fernando is faster than you' what does that mean?It means you're annoying spoilt brat of a teammate has been on the radio throwing his toys out of the cockpit again because you're driving too fast and he can't get by. Would you kindly get out of his way because it's too risky for him to try to overtake you.......sorry. Sat 11 Sep 2010 22:23:27 GMT+1 Lord_Lancashire Well we don't know, which makes it an absolutely fascinating set-up for tomorrow. All will soon be revealed. I can't wait. McLaren, Red Bull and Ferrari battle it out again :) Sat 11 Sep 2010 19:30:37 GMT+1 TheScuderiaAndy A bit lost with jensons set up choice, it worked in qualifying but surely hes going to get eaten down the straights in the race? even if he gets ahead of alonso at the start he will only be repassed again on the next big straight. Also i dont really fancy his chances if Hamilton or Massa find themselves right in his slick stream. yes he will be quicker in slower areas but i cant see that making up for be the slowest down the LOOOONNNG straights, or am i missing somthing? Sat 11 Sep 2010 16:53:42 GMT+1 fastlane66 Who will be Kamikaze Vettel's victim in Monza? I hope Mark will have good start and will win the race. Go Mark Go! Sat 11 Sep 2010 14:57:03 GMT+1 Lord_Lancashire Interesting - Alonso on pole, after what was a thrilling qualifying session. It was quite clear that Lewis Hamilton made the wrong call regarding set-up, as 5th is not good enough. He's an aggressive enough racer, however, and will no doubt make up time during the race. This race will be a good test for Jenson Button. With Massa behind him, and Hamilton in 5th, it is he alone (for the first few laps at least) that can topple Alonso. He was gave Michael Schumacher too much respect in Spain, and then pulled the age-old "you just can't overtake" excuse. I just hope those days are behind him tomorrow. Sat 11 Sep 2010 14:12:28 GMT+1 northernrail This post has been Removed Sat 11 Sep 2010 11:30:35 GMT+1 OccitaniaLev Must say I'm a bit fed up with all this Alonso bashing in the UK media. And I would hope that similar minded people in Spain feel the same about the Hamilton bashing there. It's really a bit childish all round. Both are great drivers who are always going to be chasing world championships. There will only be one champion each year, so of course it's going to get tense between the contenders. ALL top sports people desperately want to win, if they didn't they wouldn't be at the top. No big surprise if they get a bit petulant when things don't go their own way. Both of them have shown signs of it from time to time as have many others now and in the past. Get over it. I've never been a Hamilton fan, but I give him massive credit for going up in my estimation this season. Seems like he's grown up a lot since he ditched his dad as manager. Good for him. I'd sooner he wins this year than either Red Bull driver if only because he has got on with it quietly and won well when the opportunity arises.Alonso has made too many mistakes this year, probably because he has been pushing too hard, but people need to remember what's been said about him since he arrived in a Minardi. He's got the ability that only a few have ever had to win or get big points in races where most other drivers wouldn't. And a "whinging little cry baby" wouldn't have had the big whotsits needed to go around the outside of Schumacher at 180mph round 130R at Suzuka. But to make the end of the season interesting, I'd love to see a Ferrari 1-2 at Monza with Kubica's Renault 3rd...won't happen of course but few/no points for the top 4 would make those last races fun! Sat 11 Sep 2010 11:13:15 GMT+1 tiggerspp I have very little time for Alonso and feel he has made a lot of mistakes of his own making not to mention the fact that trouble seems to follow him around, but some of the blame here lies with Ferrari itself.I was a Ferrari fan for many many years and finally when Todt arrived and employed Michael, Ross, Rory etc. I got my wish of seeing the Prancing Horse ascend back to the top and in some style. Now with all those great people gone the team is sinling back once again into its disorganised and peculiar ways. The sackig of Kimi being a prime example of those and really has Alonso done any better than Kimi would have?As for Alonso he was equalled by Hamilton in 2007 and Hamilton is twice the driver he was then.... I think Alonso has a chip the size of a small planet on his shoulder over Lewis (witness the complete dummy spit in the car over Hamilton's drive through earlier this year) and deep down inside he knows the guy is better than him. Until he channels those feelings positively to become a better driver I doubt he will ever win another championship. Sat 11 Sep 2010 10:17:02 GMT+1 Nadaliator Alonso was never going to win the title this year and the reason there's so much fuss surrounding what has happened this season is because Alonso has actually surprised Ferrari by being a contender.2010 was an installation season for this F1 marriage, a chance for Alonso to adapt to his new team, pick up a few podiums or even a few wins, and then all of a sudden a one-two in Bahrain and good points following, Ferrari drivers are leading the WDC and Alonso is growling at anyone who gets in his way.Regardless of whether you're a "new" fan (i.e. since 2007) or old school like a lot of us here, you cannot deny that Fernando Alonso is the best driver of this generation and has been since 2005, those who deny it are not true fans of this sport.And for those who go on about his temprement; so what?? Senna was worse than Alonso but is hailed for his greatness - less hypocrisy please!! Sat 11 Sep 2010 09:45:36 GMT+1 VettelDRFC90 I can't see Alonso performing well this weekend. Even in front of the Tifosi he will be affected by the Court hearing this week. Alonso isn't mentally strong enough to win this year. I predict Vettel will win, and expect Hamilton to write his car of for the second Italian GP in a row. Something about Hamilton that I just don't like. Sat 11 Sep 2010 08:51:27 GMT+1 priesty_lfc @ 21'Fernando is faster than you' what does that mean?, he would have over taken him in the end however the move would have been quite risky and with Massa leading and not wanting to be overtaken there would have been a high chance of the drivers coming together, get over the team orders excuse.I really like Massa but since his accident (understandably) he's not quite been the same, I really hope he can get back to his very best as he fully deserves another chance to be champion but this season Alonso has far been the better driver. Sat 11 Sep 2010 07:59:51 GMT+1 sp4rk8 @RidRed: totally agree, the press has a lot to do with this anti Alonso, anti Hamilton feelings. What they say is almost always manipulated by journalist seeking for fresh blood, like those in the press conference after Germany and before Monza, it is outraging. I've read many people here saying they were FA fans until 2007...what a coincidence, the moment he went into trouble with THE English know, I'm waitinng for Fernando to retire, I hope it will be the moment to know many many things. Bad for Ron, bad for Charlie, Max and maybe many others. Until then lets enjoy him without beliveing that this absolutely unreal, unfair image of him press has built is real please! Sat 11 Sep 2010 07:45:56 GMT+1 Flux Redux Off topic....Why on Earth is Amanda Davies in Monza, reporting live for Breakfast News?Surely the Beeb have enough other personnel there to do that job!I thought cost cutting was the order of the day. Sat 11 Sep 2010 07:40:36 GMT+1 Peter I think that, to be fair to the other championship contenders, Vettel has to take out Hamilton in this race... Sat 11 Sep 2010 07:05:59 GMT+1 BullRun I think it would be great for Red Bull to win the championship, good for F1, even though I'm a long time Ferrari fan. Alonso has the ability and the motivation to be another Ferrari champion, but this year a few too many mistakes, as the article pointed out. One point that always is a source of irritation is the fact F1 allows teams to continue to use former F1 team names and add to previous glories.. When Bruce McLaren died, that should of been the end of McLaren as a team, not to mention Lotus and Jack Blacks team. The additional insult is when the new teams even take the old teams wins and points, as if they contributed. Sat 11 Sep 2010 04:15:52 GMT+1 gohavesometea oops - re my previous post was going to put something cheeky about Vettel taking out Webber in a bizarre overtaking manouerve but then decided against it since that seems far too implausible... Fri 10 Sep 2010 23:58:45 GMT+1 gohavesometea Fun read but a little redundant - "Time for Alonso to deliver"? - yep, because there are plenty of times when he can afford not to? It was a little bit l;ike reading "Button targets podium". Really? I thought he'd be happy strolling around at the back of the pack...Maybe the blog should have been titled "Can Alonso balance on the edge?" since that was definitely an interesting point, are the mistakes from pushing too close? I think you've hit on an excellent point. Probably the same thing for Vettel only his reason is being challenged by his team-mate as opposed to by the car.Is it just me or is Lewis immensely more likeable this season? The influence of Button maybe? Hoping for a Button, Hamilton, Alonso 1 2 3 with Vettel :-) Fri 10 Sep 2010 23:38:38 GMT+1 RidRed As someone who considers himself a F1 fan before being a fan of any particular driver or team (thought I do have a soft spot for Williams), I love the battle between Hamilton and Alonso, who, despite anything the Red Bull drivers may achieve this year, I regard as the best two drivers in the world at this time.They are different drivers with different strengths, but both incredibly talented.As someone who speaks both English and Spanish, I find it amusing that both the Spanish and English press are very happy to take quotes and information regarding the drivers out of context, in order to show how the other driver is a "spoilt brat".The truth is both hate losing, and get upset about it.When you hear the full interviews of Alonso speaking to the Spanish press, and Hamilton speaking to the British press, they are actually very similar. They also display far more respect for each other than their respective press would acknowledge, preferring the "hate" option.I am just enjoying the racing, but I do understand that in order to attract the more casual follower, the media have to have a good guy and a bad guy.Long may their rivalry continue. And if Adrian Newey (or anyone else) can develop better cars than either Ferrari or McLaren, so much the better.I just hope Charlie Whiting can come up with better, more defined, regulations, which can produce more overtaking. Fri 10 Sep 2010 22:39:34 GMT+1 bajantom TheScuderiaAndy - post 1This is a slightly bizarre comment. Other than the most red-tinted-goggle-wearer, everything i think recognises and has observed that over the last couple of years Ferrari have not recovered from set backs as quickly as other teams (McLaren being one, RBR another) - the second half of last year being proof-in-point.This is more factual rather than to belittle the fantastic Ferrari history which (apart from a couple of extreme fanatics) even non-Ferrari fans fully respects and generally admires.I feel you have been slightly over-sensitive to the commentary / blog with your comment! Fri 10 Sep 2010 22:37:59 GMT+1 Simon "My name is Simon and I'm British and an Alonso fan" was how I started my first meeting at AA (Alonso Anonymous).I think Alonso is a cracking driver and a good ambassador for the sport. He might not be as genial as Jenson, as much of a good bloke as "MAAAAAAAARK" and not as chipper as Rubens (who is though?), but he's still a great world champion.Just thought I'd let Tamburello that there's at least one British Alonso fan.PS. I know of Innes Ireland. Aside from him being a Fri 10 Sep 2010 22:00:55 GMT+1 Jackie This post has been Removed Fri 10 Sep 2010 21:35:51 GMT+1 F1Rookie @JackieI fully agree with you Alonso should have been banned for spygate and Mclaren should have been suspended for a few years for their part in the scandal and then Lewis should have been banned for Liegate and Mclaren suspended again for a few more years for their part in it. Fri 10 Sep 2010 21:31:20 GMT+1 steveblack1000 @ #20If he's the best driver, why couldn't he overtake his teammate in Germany without team orders? Fri 10 Sep 2010 21:20:37 GMT+1 priesty_lfc Really hope Alonso wins on Sunday, it will be great for the Championship but overall I think he's the best driver! Fri 10 Sep 2010 20:38:20 GMT+1 livpoksoc I have to share with many of the sentiments on here so far, but for me I don't dislike Alonso for being Spanish, I dislike Alonso for the same reasons I went off Lewis last year.It's the spoilt brat thing, Alonso did it in 2007, and is doing it now. Lewis did it somewhat in 2009 when he was moaning to the team and giving off bad vibes when things weren't going his way, thankfully Lewis appears to have used that experience to galvanise and get the team to work around him again whilst acknowledging Jenson's presence.Going back to Alonso, I do have major respect for his 2 WDC's at Renault, I was in absolute awe when he went round the outside of Schumi at the 130R and was glad that finally someone had caught up with him. But as for this year, his efforts appear lack lustre, his two victories this year have been somewhat gifted to him. I could bang on about team orders for days but I think they should be removed, but what Ferrari did was against the rules and quite frankly took the biscuit. Either way that victory, Alonso was driving at 95% and couldn't get past Massa without him backing off for him. Bahrain was the same, happy to tour round and hope Vettel's red bull broke down.A majority of the other races this season Alonso has either been an also ran with no real answer and lack of effort. When Alonso has been on it, he's been trying too hard so the car can't handle it or he's trying so hard he's not using his judgement correctly and is making error's that Sebastian Vettel still hasn't eradicated. Fri 10 Sep 2010 20:18:54 GMT+1 MediaOverreaction Alonso just isn't likeable as a sporting hero. He moans far too much. True greats to me are the drivers that rise above their constraints to produce something special. Fri 10 Sep 2010 19:49:31 GMT+1 Tamburello Jackie - I hear this 'Alonso is a spoilt child' stuff regularly and I don't know where it comes from. As for bullet proof, he was penalized for blocking Massa (Monza?)in qualifying 2 years ago when he was a country mile away from him, he was penalized when he held up Lewis (his teammate!) in the pits after Lewis's dad protested (read Alonso's comment on that - it's a hoot), he was pushed nearly into the wall in Germany by Vettel (no penalty for Vettel - cf Schumi-Barrichello), his race was ruined when he was penalized with a drive thru after passing Kubica off the track and the arch-ditherer Whiting waited so long to make a decision that Kubica had retired before he could order him to let him pass (and I'm doing this from memory so there's probably more). The take here in Spain is that the British dominated FIA and Charlie Whiting have it in for Alonso and Ferrari. So sometimes he gets a tad grumpy... Fri 10 Sep 2010 19:48:43 GMT+1 correct kane Jonathon, mission impossible for Fernando surely and he does seem to lack a little composure behind the wheel. Being a big respector of all F1 drivers I find it tiresome that people need to articulate just why they wish someone to win whilst they drive under the flag of their home nation, only here in PC World GB could this occur. Come on Lewis, come on Jenson. Fri 10 Sep 2010 19:39:54 GMT+1 Hippasus Yes. Fri 10 Sep 2010 19:34:17 GMT+1 TheJudeanPeoplesFront #6 Agree with all but one of your sentiments. I don't believe it's possible he could have got in the cockpit of the Renault at Singapore NOT knowing his team-mate was instructed to crash... Otherwise we'd have caught transmission of him saying "pit now? Are you mental? It's way too early" to the team, or some such. Or you'd have seen him kicking toys out of the pram at the start line because he'dbeen given such a risky strategy based on someone having a foul up just after his pit-stop...Disgusting that win stood, disgusting Flavio's ban was overturned, and digsuting Ferrari got away with a cynical breach of the rules and lying about said cynical breach of the rules... What happened to McCLAREN'S Hamilton when he did such at Melbourne... Oh right! Deduction of ALL his points! FIA = Very dubious organisation Fri 10 Sep 2010 19:20:41 GMT+1 Jackie Oh and I don't remember Innes Ireland!! Fri 10 Sep 2010 19:13:34 GMT+1 Jackie Tamburello, intelligent post, I'm with you even though I'm a Macca fan. But it's not xenophobia, I admire Alonso as a driver, especially with the 2 x WDC at Renault, and generally he's hard but fair (ironically, like Lewis!) but I do hate this spoilt child syndrome that he seems to have adopted ever since, and he DOES seem to be mysteriously bullet proof. How on earth he didn't get penalised during 2007 with Spygate I'll never know - he and his buddy Pedro were actually discussing the Ferrari set up between them, and whether 'The Management' knew or not, surely that set them up for a penalty too? So - it may be very superficial and inconsistent of me, but I'd hate it if he got the WDC this year, I'd rather it would be someone who has driven with dignity and fairness throughout - Webber, Lewis or Jenson - and it's not just because they're English (well, Mark's an honorary Brit!) But I DO think Fernando should get another WDC just as a reflection of his talent. Just not yet!! Fri 10 Sep 2010 19:12:16 GMT+1 laughingdevil It's as if Alonso knows the car is still not as quick as Red Bull's RB6 and is attempting to compensate by pushing it to, and possibly over, its limits - and even his talent can't bridge the gap.--------------Has been my thought all season, despite the errors he's still way ahead of Massa with the same car, personally I think without the right on the "edge" driving he's done he would have been out of contention ages ago. Fri 10 Sep 2010 18:47:34 GMT+1 Tamburello There's such a lot of anti-Alonso sentiment aired on the comments on this blog and I can't decide whether this is good or bad. I suppose it's good cos there are people out there who feel passionately about their heroes, which is better than indifference, but I tire of some of the negative comments I read. Alonso has won two WDCs, he beat Schumi, he's exciting to watch but, alas, he's Spanish. Hamilton is a brilliant driver, also exciting to watch, and may well win the WDC this year, and he's English. I wish them both the best of luck tho I'd rather Alonso won due to what I consider to be a healthy patriotism rather than an unhealthy xenophobia. But I don't go bad-mouthing Lewes just because I'm an Alonsista. And I don't lose sight of what is really going on in the sport.Rather than sniping at personalities we should be revelling in the rivalry between the Brit and the Spaniard. This is not football: let's not talk like football fans. Anyone who has followed F1 for as long as I have may have been fans of Clark, Villeneuve, Lauda, Prost, Senna - their nationality never used to matter. Now there seems to be a them and us mentality, at least among the fans of the two countries I know best: Spain and England.PS: Anyone remember Innes Ireland? Fri 10 Sep 2010 18:26:12 GMT+1 Fed_Borg Jonathan, you seem to really want F.A. to win the championship. Ever since you talked up his move to Ferrari, you make it look like he is the greatest driver around. C'mon, if that had even a semblance of truth, he would be leading the championship, as it is he is struggling, blaming everyone but himself for the situation. He even needed the team to give him a win. Fri 10 Sep 2010 18:19:14 GMT+1 AOD In reply to [1]While Ferrari may be the most successful team in the modern era, this has not been reflected for several seasons now. To claim previous results somehow give them an advantage over McLaren, who have shown admirable fighting spirit of late, is nonsensical. Nobody claims that Lotus are underperforming just because they used to be an incredibly successful team (albeit in name only).Incidentally I am a big Alonso fan and am hoping he can get a few of the results I feel he deserves and has missed out on this season. The general view appears to be that his mistakes early this season arise from pushing a slightly underperforming car past its limit. Fri 10 Sep 2010 18:11:22 GMT+1 Nickynak This post has been Removed Fri 10 Sep 2010 18:09:48 GMT+1 Mancun Ian It could indeed be the last chance for Fernando "Jessica Fletcher" Alonso* to reignite his championship chances - but I think his mistakes this season will ultimately cost him, as they will Vettel.*There was always a crime where Jessica was residing - yet she was never the guilty one - I am not for one second saying that Fernando is a cheat or dishonest, but the 'teflon' name seems to stick more than any charges againstFernando at McLaren - the team punished - Alonso and Hamilton notFernando at Renault - team and seniors punished - Alonso keeps the winFernando at Ferrari - well I guess you get the picture Fri 10 Sep 2010 18:01:14 GMT+1 Estesark When Fernando Alonso was busy winning his first and second World Championships, I was a big fan of his, though that may have been largely due to the fact that someone was finally beating Michael Schumacher.Everything he's done since then has made me dislike the fellow. This season has really confirmed that the "big baby, throwing toys out of the pram" image he picked up in 2007 was accurate.It's good to have villains in the sport - for the excitement and stories they create - but I sincerely hope he doesn't win this race or the Drivers' Championship. Fri 10 Sep 2010 17:31:13 GMT+1 riiseuk This post has been Removed Fri 10 Sep 2010 17:28:13 GMT+1 Lord_Lancashire In reply to comment (1) by TheScuderiaAndy.I'm sorry, but the statement is entirely true as of late. When McLaren hit trouble, they always fight back. When Ferrari hit trouble, they often stay troubled. Don't let yourself be blurred by the team's successes during the first half of the 2000s decades, when everyone else fell flat. It may be a hard statement to take for a Ferrari fan, but it's true.And tbh, Alonso was never going to win this title from very early on. It'll have to wait for this year. Niether he, nor Ferrari are in a fit state to win titles at present. Fri 10 Sep 2010 17:19:45 GMT+1 tranquility2k9 Jonathan - do you have any idea why McLaren did not improve when they swapped to the soft tyres in practice 2, whereas Ferrari and Red Bull improved significantly. Both Lewis' and Jenson's best times were set on the hard tyre. Fri 10 Sep 2010 17:10:07 GMT+1 TheScuderiaAndy I quote "And he's with a team who possess an enviable range and depth of resources to deliver the maximum performance. Maybe not as effectively as McLaren, who made a much better recovery last season than Ferrari, but impressive nonetheless"Weres the logic in that statement? Ferrari are the most successful team in F1 buy quite some margin. More Pro Mclaren veiws by the BBC. Not everyone in the UK follows Mclaren you know Fri 10 Sep 2010 17:03:40 GMT+1