Comments for en-gb 30 Sun 26 Apr 2015 10:41:43 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at JSavage123 Of course I wish Massa a speedy recovery. I don't know much about the HANS devices used but if this holds the drivers head in place would this make it more difficult for a driver to move his head out of the way of a flying object? Mon 27 Jul 2009 21:40:15 GMT+1 colin Congratulations Lewis,slap on the wrist Renault(I don,t think it,s right but sloppy)and get well soon Filipe.Oh it may not seem like it Jenson but the luck hasn,t left you yet. Mon 27 Jul 2009 05:18:37 GMT+1 colin Mon 27 Jul 2009 05:09:41 GMT+1 Estesark Not sure where else to post this...Image six of BBC Sport's Hungarian GP image gallery shows the Ferrari mechanics displaying the message "FORZA FELIPE SIAMO CON TE". The image caption says that this translates as "Go Felipe, Our Love Is With You".That is incorrect. The latter part of the message is simply "We are with you". Sun 26 Jul 2009 16:30:24 GMT+1 Graham Yep, hats off to Lewis on a great job today. Not a disaster for Jenson today losing just four points to Webber and a DNF for Vettel.What are we going to do in two weeks time with no race?Well it will be middle fiestas in the village where I live, and on the Saturday there is a massive firework display at midnight about 20 minutes drive away! Sun 26 Jul 2009 14:09:38 GMT+1 F1Tifoso Oh well at least lewis won. Button for Valencia hopefully. Champagne on the podium? out of respect for Massa ithink it should be given a miss. Sun 26 Jul 2009 13:44:23 GMT+1 Graham Don't forget the KERS cars showed well in Monaco, another slow speed circuit where the weight disadvantage of the KERS system is minimised. Sun 26 Jul 2009 13:14:41 GMT+1 JimmyTheFly #42 I'm not a big fan of the KERS system either and I hope it won't be with us next season. However, all the teams have the option of using it and McLaren's current car was designed around the system so I don't blame them for sticking with it, much in the same way that Braun lead the way with the double diffuser at the start of the season and everyone else had to catch up. Sun 26 Jul 2009 13:04:29 GMT+1 Graham F1Tifoso,Looks like we are reading off the same page today.Not heard anything about Webber being investigated yet. It was nowhere near as close as Massa in Valencia last year, and there was no real sanction then.DOH! just realised how silly saying that was, as Massa was driving a Ferarri! Sun 26 Jul 2009 13:02:07 GMT+1 F1Tifoso Jimmy I think it's a no brainer that one of them will win and you are right about a potential all KERS podium. Have to say I am gutted though. As much as it's good to see Lewis potentially winning but I just don't like KERS. It's just not in the spirit of the sport for me. Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:58:41 GMT+1 JimmyTheFly Eddie Jordan said not too long ago that no KERS equipped car will win a race this season. With 3 of the top 4 runners having KERS and Kovalainen pressuring Webber we could have an all KERS podium here this weekend!!! Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:55:36 GMT+1 F1Tifoso Simple gman. F errariI nternationalA ssistance Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:51:37 GMT+1 JimmyTheFly Gmanbluegood point well made lol. Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:42:23 GMT+1 Graham To JimmyTheFly, How could you question the cinsistency of the FIA. That is a shocking thing to say!They ALWAYS favour Ferrari! Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:38:13 GMT+1 JimmyTheFly I think Webber will now get a drive through for being released into the path of another car in the pit lane.Gmanblue, I agree. Very strange that Kimi will be investigated after the race given Webbers penalty in Germany. FIA need to work on consistency of steward decisions. Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:34:00 GMT+1 Graham How come Kimi gets investigated after the race for first lap contact, and in Germany Webber gets a drive through!And now Alonso looses a wheel on track. Not what is needed after the last week Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:22:50 GMT+1 Graham Hi F1Tifoso, I realise that Schumacher should still be fit enough, and probably the best alternative Ferrari have access to. However, with no title to chase, I agree they will probably go for someone else. I realsise that there is a four week gap to Valencia but I would be surprised if after suffering a fractured skull, Massa will be back for then, maybe longer. Again all the best to Massa for a speedy recovery.10 laps in, and Hamilton looking good. Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:18:35 GMT+1 JimmyTheFly Salvador_Limones, My post #19 is only a rough approximation to calculating fuel adjusted grid. Given the number of variables involved I don't think it is possible to accuratly calculate each cars relative performance from the lap time and fuel load alone. The example I used just gives an indication. Sun 26 Jul 2009 11:57:17 GMT+1 F1Tifoso Gman you are absolutely right and I think Ferrari have done the right thing by running just the one car. I just heard a report that schumy has not signed a new contract for next season for his advisory role. Not sure if that's a sign of anything or not but it might rule him out of contention for massas seat. Time will tell but if not schumy my moneys on badoer. Sun 26 Jul 2009 11:56:49 GMT+1 TheamazingMrWhite Jesus! How light was Alonso? I guess he must be stopping around lap 10...this also shows that the Red Bulls, whatever the conditions, are by far the class of the field. For my money the Constructors is sown up, but the Drivers championship is getting more interesting. A big battle coming up between the two Red Bulls, who will no doubt take a 1-2. Sun 26 Jul 2009 11:00:10 GMT+1 Salvador_Limones Sorry, I just saw post #19. Could the moderator delete my last post please, while I get my notebook out??? Sun 26 Jul 2009 10:57:34 GMT+1 Salvador_Limones Good to hear that Felipe has had an OK night. I hope the results of his brain scan are good. F1 wouldn't be the same without him on the grid.Otherwise, could someone post a link explaining the equations that are used to calculate the fuel adjusted grid? My calculations are obviously a bit simple, i.e. Corrected Time = (Drivers Time / Drivers Fuel) * Pole Sitters Fuel. This method produces a different result. Which equations should I be using (freedom of information and all that!)? Sun 26 Jul 2009 10:55:27 GMT+1 Graham All the predictions above assume the the recorded qualifying time was totally representative of the car/driver performance. There are 70 odd laps in this race and extrapolating from one lap which was almost certainly not the best they could have done, nor is representative of the speeds they are capable of lap after lap in the race means that the predictions have little real worth. Suffice it to say that Brawn and Red Bull now have real challengers in Williams, Mclaren and, perhaps to a lesser extent, Ferrari. Eventually the new regulations have put the teams closer together in terms of speed - though they haven't yet cracked the (lack of) overtaking problem yet - so there must be a high probability that the first corner will have a huge bearing on the podium positions in this race. With the cars so closely matched the first corner may well be the site of a big pile up - what then for the predictions above? Sun 26 Jul 2009 10:52:27 GMT+1 Graham Wow F1Tifoso, you swallow the rulebook for breakfast?!? While the rule book may allow a replacement, I couldn't see any team replace a driver after qualifying out of respect for the injured driver.If Ferrari are listening, I live just 1 hour south of Valencia, and if i can get a couple of days off work, I might be able to help you out! Sun 26 Jul 2009 10:37:24 GMT+1 omniDeLash My thoughts are with Felipe Massa and his family, hoping for a full and speedy recovery. I also send codolences to the Surtees family for the loss of their son.I have been a Motor Racing "fan" for many years and have seen a positive improvement in the care and safety of drivers, spectators and cars during that time, but this is still a dangerous sport. To quote Lewis Hamilton, "it's scary" but he will still be on the grid at the start of the race, as will all the other drivers, knowing that such "freak" accidents can and will happen. Respect!I look forward to the race today. Having read the comments posted, it's obviously going to be very exciting and entertaining to watch. This can only be good for Motor Sport and F1 in particular. Sun 26 Jul 2009 10:35:28 GMT+1 keaneonthepool Thoughts and wishes with Phillipe Massa for a speedy recovery.Cant wait for this one should be a fascinating race. Think there are going to be fireworks at the start Sun 26 Jul 2009 10:27:25 GMT+1 HamiltonAlways Very upset about Massa, he is a fantastic driver and the best is yet to come from the Brazillian. I wish he didn't have to start at the back of the grid! I really do, he was one of the fastest drivers in the top 10! Anyway, good luck to him, i wish him a speedy but full recovery.As or the race, i am very excited to see Lewis and Kovalinen up there again, it's great, they have a real shot, hope KERS go well this weekend, Lewis should be going for a podeum, it all depends on the start if he can use that extra 80 hp to his full advantage. Hope he does well! As for Alonso, congratoulations to him, he was probably the best driver on the day what ever the fuel loads say! He had the right meantality and did himself proud. Red Bulls, are big shots to take 1-2 finish or at least a win so good luck to the whole to 6 as don't rule out Rosberg in 6th is he? I think. Well it will be a fantastic race and i say it's a battle between Lewis/Red Bulls/ Alonso for Vicotry and Kovelinen/Rosberg/Lewis Hamilton/Red Bulls and Alonso for a podeum finish. Good luck to all!.. Sun 26 Jul 2009 10:24:29 GMT+1 F1Tifoso Gman blue it is not too late to replace massa for today. Rule 19.1 says all changes to drivers must be done before the qualifying practice session. However it goes on to say that the race stewards would consider individual changes beyond this time on merit if they are a force majeure. Technically therefore we could see badoer or gene today but I think it's unlikely. By Valencia though we may see the change if massa is not back. I think it's safe to assume massas season is now over though as it's a pretty serious injury he's had. Don't rule out a return for schumy though. Gene and badoer are inexperienced and schumy has done a lot of testing for the scuderia lately. Given the season they are having they might try totempt schumy back for some publicity of a positive nature. Sun 26 Jul 2009 09:45:05 GMT+1 Mario Firstly, thoughts and wishes with Philipe Massa for a speedy recovery.The way the weather is looking for race day, it may all be coming to Brawn, with Jenson in the box seat. Two stops, a long middle stint and a slash and dash may clinch it. Sun 26 Jul 2009 08:46:36 GMT+1 InThePipe I remember Ross Braun saying that his cars ran better when the temperature is above 28 degrees C. As Budapest is cooler than usual they will not perform to their best.BUT the majority of the remaining races of the season are definitely going to be above 28C... so I expect the Brauns to go down a bit and then steadily rise to the top again. It will be close at the end of the season however I think the Brauns will portodelpicasso, you've had a drop too much sangria my friend. Button is the best driver out there:-) Sun 26 Jul 2009 07:59:27 GMT+1 Paddy Murphy #7 i think what happened was some reporter may have on the grape vine heard 'Massa' and 'life-threatening' in the same sentence, and that's been misconstrued to mean that he's being read the last rites. Official reports are he's stable and will be woken up tomorrow. Sun 26 Jul 2009 02:28:57 GMT+1 ian_finney i am a massive ferrari fan, forst off i wanna wish felipe massa a full recovery and hope to see him back sooni put my money on a redbull 1 - 2 again, webber then vettel, webber will be full of confidence after his win in the last race and being a very under rated driver he will be firing on all cylinders and vettel who is one of the best up n coming drivers we have seen for many many a year will be a very close second behind webber.....this year will go down to the wire again with wsebber button and vettel i wud like any of these to win the title. all very good drivers.... Sun 26 Jul 2009 02:01:27 GMT+1 JimmyTheFly ----Best wishes to Massa and his family. Hope he can return to the track soon---- Re: Salvador_Limones: JB's seconds per kilo is 0.12415, yet Vettel's is 0.12458. Therefore, isn't Jenson quicker?Close but no cigar mate. Your maths good, but your physics bad. The second per kilo calculation would only work if mass and performance were directly proportional. This is not the case however as it's an exponential relationship. (If it were that simple we'd all be working as race engineers!)Say the actual performance loss is more like 0.08s per 2kg (about one lap's worth of fuel). JB is only 9.5kg heavier than SV, but 0.9s slower. His extra fuel would only account for 0.38s of performance loss so the other 0.52s is car/driver related. But even then you are assuming that the driver got a perfect lap in whilst the tyres and track were in their prime.I'd say the only conclusions we can be certain of are that the Red Bull's have the performance edge overall and that Hamilton has a great chance of gaining places off the grid with KERS. Also, Hamilton's KERS system should make overtaking/defending into turn 1 slightly easier. The McLarens have been consistently clocking the highest speeds in the speed trap (which is only two thirds of the way down the main straight). Sun 26 Jul 2009 01:30:05 GMT+1 prozacadillac not sure about this race and wonder every year why - other than the fact the Hungarian Govt must be prompt in their annual shell out for the race to old Bernie - it is infact still on the calendar.if all goes as the mole says it might then that would make for a pretty good race, but i'd be surprised if alonso makes the first lap in the lead there are a lot of hungry (groan) drivers behind him chomping at the's difficult to call at this car park of a blinking circuit isn't it? half way through the race and we'll all know who - break downs aside - will be standing on the podium, but the opening lap or two could be a right wing ding followed by strategic re-fuels and fast laps that i'm pretty sure will decide the winner...sounds like i'm giving a lesson in egg sucking. i'll shut up !!! much good vibes out of Pangbourne to Massa. a great racer with real heart who deserves respect for being the only driver in their garage that ferrari have been able to rely on consistently for a season and a half. here's to never getting an ice lolly out the fridge in your combat shorts when the team's on the back foot mate. respect Sat 25 Jul 2009 22:19:58 GMT+1 doctorspike666 hi fellow f1 fans,its been a while since i have had my say,but this time it is not to critacise but to wish mr massa a full and speedy recovery,after the recent death of henry surtees our thoughts are with u, Sat 25 Jul 2009 22:08:05 GMT+1 CiaranJ There's a nice little graphic showing the relative spacing of the grid, before and after fuel correction on this blog: that they think Alonso's light strategy won't help him at the front but will probably get him a better finish than if he'd been stuck further back on the grid. Not sure if I agree but we'll find out tomorrow. Sat 25 Jul 2009 21:19:35 GMT+1 Graham Thank you porto.... I did misread your post. But with his strategy choice, Alonso has sacrificed his race finish position to ensure pole. Unless there is a high attrition rate, he may pick up a couple of pointrs at best Sat 25 Jul 2009 20:57:02 GMT+1 portodelpicasso Gmanblue. Read! Podium, not pole. He is BY FAR the best, so I wouldn't bet against him. Sat 25 Jul 2009 20:42:31 GMT+1 Graham Anyone can predict they will get pole, then run less fuel than anyone else to make sure!When Alonso makes his first stop he will probably come out behind cars going much longer than him and that is not a good stategy. Sat 25 Jul 2009 20:29:14 GMT+1 Always Blurting Should anyone be in any doubt that Jenson is under huge pressure it's his latest moan about not liking the feel of the car with heavy fuel. Add this to his constant tyre temperature moans and his irrational weaving during races and it's not looking good for Jenson's championship bid. A true competitor would be getting on with it and concentrating on doing a good job whatever the difficulties. Sat 25 Jul 2009 20:20:44 GMT+1 portodelpicasso I think Alonso has the chance to win. It's unlike him, but he was predicting podium this week. He is class, by far the best driver on the grid. Button proclaimed himself the best driver(!), but is clearly not even in the top 10 of the current drivers, and Hamilton is chaotic in the way he drives. Seb could be the next best... Sat 25 Jul 2009 20:14:51 GMT+1 FanofSilverstone Best of luck to Massa, he made a fan out of me last year and i hope he gets back in a car asap.I think Hamilton and Rosberg might be the people battling for 3rd, and i hope they do because it would be great to watch into a fight. Sat 25 Jul 2009 19:51:29 GMT+1 Dangela268 Hope Massa is okay.Luca Badoer or Marc Gene will probably race in his place as they are the Ferrari test drivers! Sat 25 Jul 2009 19:43:47 GMT+1 Carlonso Firstly I'd like to wish Massa a speedy recovery from his injuries.If Alonso just concentrates on his start and comes through at the first corner in the lead, and both Maclarens end up pushing past the Red Bulls, we could have a humdinger of a race - the Maclarens will neutralise any advantage the Red Bulls may have and it could turn into an Alonso/Maclaren/Red Bull/Button shoot out throughout...the strategists will have their work cut out...But if the Red Bulls manage to hold off the Maclarens at the start then they can wait for Alonso to refuel before really punching out the times or, if Alonso starts badly, then it's a Red Bull procession all the way to the chequered flag with Button hoping to do as much damage limitation as he can... Sat 25 Jul 2009 19:24:31 GMT+1 GraymeadYNWA MOLE, WHY IS SKY REPORTING THAT MASSA IS IN A LIFE THREATENING CONDITION?!?!I THOUGHT HE WAS STABLE! Sat 25 Jul 2009 19:21:26 GMT+1 Salvador_Limones I don't understand moley,JB's seconds per kilo is 0.12415, yet Vettel's is 0.12458. Therefore, isn't Jenson quicker? Sat 25 Jul 2009 19:11:29 GMT+1 Graham To FastBBBIt is too late to replace Massa this weekend. There is a long break before Valencia, but I think we will be seeing someone else partnering Kimi there, maybe longer. Sat 25 Jul 2009 19:06:21 GMT+1 Graham To Jru,One real passing place on the circuit, at the end of the straight. Ideal for KERS assisted passing.Might be able to take a KERS assisted lunge into turn 2 too. Sat 25 Jul 2009 19:00:48 GMT+1 FastBBBB Good news on Button as I worried he'd done worse than in Germany. McLaren will jump everyone (should). I think that Button will do better than eighth. Who will ace for Massa? or is no-one taking up his position. Sat 25 Jul 2009 18:58:45 GMT+1 Jru430 Just a quick question, how effective will the kers be on this track? I think it was button who described it as one long corner so would that put McClaren at a disadvantage in the race itself? Sat 25 Jul 2009 18:48:50 GMT+1 Graham Let me add my best wishes to Massa on a speedy recovery.Despite being on the dirty side, Hamilton could well move over to the clean side before he can activate KERS and therefore make best use of it.Lets hope he gets into the first corner without a problem this week.If Button can still be in touch by the time everyone has stopped for the first stop, he will be able to put in a few quick laps to gain places. If he can repeat that on the second stop, he could well be on for a podium. Sat 25 Jul 2009 18:31:43 GMT+1