Comments for en-gb 30 Wed 08 Jul 2015 08:07:27 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at Blue Heaven The decision to rescind Bougherra's red card is correct. He was sent off for something that just didn't happen at all ("violent conduct" - the linesman thought Bougherra kicked the keeper after the original challenge when in fact he kicked the ball). Fri 22 May 2009 17:56:51 GMT+1 sounesstablishment007 Let's not talk about the English premiership please - it is completely irrelevent to this story. Fri 22 May 2009 14:23:49 GMT+1 brooklynbrawler This post has been Removed Fri 22 May 2009 13:28:35 GMT+1 vcfsantos Interesting discussion re the relative merits of the EPL and SPL. Not sure how worthwhile it is though. I'm English, though don't support an EPL team (Bristol City if anyone cares).Its inevitable that English football is going to be better than Scottish football. Our geography and the fact that we have a far bigger population means that marketing the EPL has just been very easy for Sky etc. meaning more money, and more quality players down here. The fact that Scotland manages to sustain the amount of professional football that it does is testament to the fans.The bottom line is whether the fans in Scotland enjoy their football. If they do (and I've had a great time watching the odd game up in Inverness where my Mum lives) then who cares? The Old Firm games this season have been pretty dull to watch on TV and the quality hasn't been great, but I'd happily pay alot of money just to experience that atmosphere.A couple more things. #47 - I think you'll find that Owen actually did pretty well in Madrid regardless of the fact that most of his appearances came from the bench. His scoring record was pretty impressive and the majority of Real fans did not want to see him go. Victim of the usual politics they have down there.Also think there's a fair few English players who would make the top sides/squads in the continent. Certainly no less than any other European nation with the exception of Spain.Finally, are any Celtic fans embarassed by Samaras' press conference in which he states that Celtic are the better team and if Rangers win its only because of Celitic's mistakes. Absolutely ridiculous! If a team makes that many mistakes then how can they rightfully claim to be better? The team at the top once all games have been played is always the best. End of. Fri 22 May 2009 10:30:19 GMT+1 northhighlander Samaras should be on the training ground trying to improve both his technique and form, to justify the large amount of money he trousers every week instead of opening his mouth and ensuring everyone knows how little lies between his ears. He in particular has been dire this season. A very average player, Celtic could have bought Lee Miller, Jon Daly, etc for a hell of a lot less and they would have been as good. But I agree if any rangers player needed a little extra motivation then this will provide it.Re youngsters coming through: When we have the league set up we have it is difficult to blood youngsters, every game is important, the margin for error top and bottom is too small. Also the SFA are totally inept at organising Scottish Football. We still have the SYFA, SFA, etc all going in different directions. Still have youngsters playing on substandard facilities, no plan, no way forward. I expected Gordon Smith to have done more, he has been a total disaster. Shows that it is easy to criticise, not so easy to do something about it. He really is a bag of wind and something else. Otehr sports have got their house in order and offer youngsters much more. Football thinks everyone will continue to play football whatever, that stopped 25 years ago. Look at how Golf and Rugby have organised.Maybe Henry will be the saviour? I very much doubt it. Fri 22 May 2009 08:50:56 GMT+1 discoagogo You guys are being pretty unfair on chick. It's very difficult to write a good article on a topic as boring as the SPL!!! Fri 22 May 2009 08:47:48 GMT+1 fokbaik Oh dear. Samarass has just done Walter's team-talk for him. I reckon whoops fans up and down the land will be cringing inwardly. One or two outwardly. C'mon the Gers! Fri 22 May 2009 08:12:42 GMT+1 WABlueOz So, the Souvlaki Kid thinks Rangers don't deserve the League as it would be Celtic's mistakes that gave it to them, is that not the point, the best Team with the most consistant result win's the League, maybe it is different in Greek rules or is he just a slow learner ??? Fri 22 May 2009 07:41:38 GMT+1 Tony Torrance As usual the only thing going on in Scottish Football is the Old Firm.It is a shame that the Press do not focus their attentions elsewhere as both clubs are totally undeserving of the press lavished on them. Also bear in mind that both teams are dreadful and pale imitations of what a Scottish Champion should be.As for Chick Brown and BBC Rangers it is hardly surprising that he wastes his precious time as he and his type are a symptom of the cancer which prevails through Scottish Football. .Fianlly, the mose important games in Scotland does not happen on Sunday but takes place on Saturday. The winner of these games will ensure survival for another year whilst the other team could easily go out of business. That is the real story of Scottish Football this season not the lavish undeserved column inches wasted on the Old Firm. The one line synopsis give by The Chick is nothing short of embarassing and disgraceful. As usual the Fans of these clubs are treated with utter disdain by a Old Firm writer and supporter. Fri 22 May 2009 07:37:18 GMT+1 kkandnathan i love Barcelonai hope Barcelona can win championlong live Barcelona Thu 21 May 2009 17:07:58 GMT+1 capetrib #41 I'm not suggesting for a minute that there are home grown Scottish players who are likely to be wanted by europe's top teams but again, I think there is only a handful of English players playing in the Premiership that would be wanted at the top sides.You have mentioned Gerrard, Rooney, Lampard, Terry which I totally agree with but the rest of the players you have mentioned would not in my opinion, and there has hardly been any interest in the transfer market for any of these players?Owen and especially Woodgate could hardly be described as having successful times at Real, Beckham and Hargreaves yes.The Premiership is a global brand which has been marketed exceptionally well and the money it has generated has attracted some of the worlds top players but at a cost. The Premiership is often described as the best league in the world for years now, should we not have expected the English national team to be competing for honours at every major tournament? Thu 21 May 2009 14:32:50 GMT+1 Houstonslydog Both sides of the Old Firm to draw, to sum up an extremely average season for both clubs. Thu 21 May 2009 13:07:34 GMT+1 fokbaik stramash_city, theres every chance WGS will indeed lead the whoops to 4 in a row and will stick around for another season, evidently creating more rancour amongst the Paradise support. Then again, theres every chance the title will be returning home, WGS will get booted out, the celtic side dismantled and the search for a new manager will have to begin again. Rangers won those titles fair and square because over the course of the season they finished top of the league. Celtics bottle crashing both times had little or nothing to do with it. Sure, every single trophy won by Rangers has been down to luck hasnt it stramasgh city?! And the times when celtic havent won trophies is because of conspiracies and whatnot, no? LOLPLG, aye he was no John Barnes. I dont do predictions. Why risk getting egg all over your face? Jeez, I dont know. Thu 21 May 2009 09:05:35 GMT+1 The-pen-is-mightier #15 Kirk Broadfoot's Microwave - what a name, LMAO. That's the main thing I miss about the game back home, the sarcasm (not the bitterness).#35 fokbaik. WGS could of course lead Celtic to 4 in a row this weekend. As you yourself point out Rangers last successes were in 2003 & 2005 last day of the season "snatches" which Celtic could/should have won.My point is - not much of Rangers dominance in the last 6 years is there....what you won you were lucky to have won.Paul Le Guen - you're having a laugh.DUFC 2 - RFC 1 is my prediction with Celtic to win 1-0. Wed 20 May 2009 23:14:50 GMT+1 theshifter well done chick didnt think you'd be able to surpass last weeks awful effort but this weeks blog is even worse! Wed 20 May 2009 15:52:23 GMT+1 fokbaik Domino Flyer > Pure speculation of course, but 8 games in 21 days including a UEFA Cup final to endure may have had something to do with it rather than "bottles crashing", because remember Rangers also claimed a domestic cup double. Sorry to hear 1999, 2003 and 2005 still hurt. Ordered your 2008-2009 SPL Champions T-shirt yet? Wed 20 May 2009 15:51:41 GMT+1 JonnyWigs #29 and #31. Im not trying to get into an Aglo Scottish argument here, as I have Scottish parents but have lived most of my life in England, but there are sweeping statements from both sides of the border posted on here on a regular basis. Lets, however, get something straight: the Premiership is not the be all and end all of football, but, it is a global brand as it attracts a lot of the worlds best players, and that is a fact, and why they get obscene amounts of money each season.Yes, there are a lot of foreign players in the Premiership, but this is the same across major leagues in Europe. Heres what some of the top teams in Europe have in their first team squads:Barcelona have 13 foreign players, and 11 Spanish playersReal Madrid 18 foreign, and 10 SpanishAC Milan 15 foreign, and 13 ItalianInter 19 foreign, 7 ItalianBayern 11 foreign, 11 GermanPorto 17 foreign, 7 PortugueseI could go on, but wont...Out of the top four in England, Man Utd have the biggest squad of homegrown talent with 17 English players, Arsenal have 12, and Liverpool and Chelsea have 7 each.Yes, only few English players would get into the top teams in Europe (if you class the top team as the two Spanish, two Italian, 1 German, 1 Portuguese as above perhaps), but is that not the case with every nations top players? The top teams can only play 11 players at one time, and they are competing for places with the best Argentinians, Italians, Germans, Spaniards Brazilians, French etc etc.Any side in Europe would welcome the likes of Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Ferdinand, Carragher, even Joe Cole, and a few years ago you could have added Carragher and Scholes to that list. Then youve got the likes of Ashley Cole (linked with Barca this week), Lennon, Defoe, Walcott, Carrick, Ashley Young, Wright Phillips, and Glen Jonson to name a few who would walk into a lot of good European teams, and Owen, Beckham, Hargreaves and Woodgate who have already played for top European sides. How many of the Scotland squad could this apply to?The fact of the matter is that the English are still producing good young players, and if you try and convince yourself otherwise, youre hiding from the truth.There ARE scores of exceptionally good young Scottish players coming through Academy sides every season, but rarely do they fulfil their potential and they tend to just vanish into obscurity. So, the question is why, when there are so many great Scottish managers and coaches about, have we never had the new Dalglish, Law, or Durrant? Wed 20 May 2009 15:48:58 GMT+1 16thMay1998 #29, HackerJack: your comment on the Scottish league makes no sense. You say that Rangers could live with some of the top European teams in the, is this the same Rangers that reached a Euro final..ahem, last year?! 5 years after Celtic did the same? Standards would appear to be improving, rather than falling! But of course you're one of the compare-the-SPL-with-the-EPL brigade, which is about as logical as comparing caviar with a fish supper. The SPL is far from perfect, but it's ours and I for one absolutely love it. Wed 20 May 2009 15:44:22 GMT+1 16thMay1998 #15, KBM: "I could of written this article"Erm, well, no. Perhaps when you learn the difference between "of" and "have", you might be able to have a wee shot at it.I'm no big fan of Chick Young, but some people on here take his blogs waaaaay too seriously... Wed 20 May 2009 15:34:49 GMT+1 Domino_Flyer #35 - "Was it 2005 when the Helicopter was heading to Fir Park with the whoops leading 1-0, fans chanting "Championees" and unveiling SPL Title Winners 2005 t-shirts to one another and the masses watching on TV?"Yes it was 2005.Was it 2008 when The Gers were 7pts clear with a game in hand, before the deafening sound of a bottle crashing was heard across the land?Have they pieced that blue bottle back together yet? I'll be listening out for the crash roaring out of Dundee on Sunday...though it will most likely be deafened by the sound of rotor blades as the helicopter lands in Paradise. Wed 20 May 2009 14:52:36 GMT+1 Paul bain i jst hope scott macdonald wont be turning the helicopter around agian this wknd!.... Wed 20 May 2009 14:51:56 GMT+1 Storm of Swords Blah, blah, blah Scottish football, Celtic, Rangers, blah, blah, blah. Borrrrrrrrrrrrrring. Wed 20 May 2009 14:15:35 GMT+1 fokbaik Was it 2005 when the Helicopter was heading to Fir Park with the whoops leading 1-0, fans chanting "Championees" and unveiling SPL Title Winners 2005 t-shirts to one another and the masses watching on TV? Oh to have been a fly on the wall to see the deliriously happy whoops fans greeting the sight of the helicopter in the distance with glee, hugging one another, kissing badges, singing an assortment of unpleasant songs about their Glasgow rivals. The copter getting closer and closer, they can practically touch the SPL trophy, fans all worked up into a frenzy now with only minutes to go........and then up steps Scott McDonald....not once.....but twice.......a great hush descends on Fir Park, save for the several hundred 'Well fans who have managed to get a ticket for their own ground,...hands cover open mouths, scarfs hide pain-etched faces......the copter hovers teasingly over Fir Park for several more minutes than it really needs to, before banking to the left and disappearing over the horizon as it heads for Leith to be decked out in the red, white and blue of the REAL Scottish Champions. Wow, I hadn't felt that good since 2003 and before that 1999. I think the Light Blues are due another day of delight. Wed 20 May 2009 13:49:53 GMT+1 ya_dafty Reduce the budget for BBC scotland if this is all we have. Wed 20 May 2009 13:10:36 GMT+1 David I'm a Rovers fan. Either Falkirk or Inverness will do.Last time I travelled to St.Mirren, the natives were singing "Stab you in Paisley, we're gonnae stab you in Paisley". So I'd prefer it better that your wee team stayed up. Wed 20 May 2009 12:52:13 GMT+1 SuperKillie1869 This post has been Removed Wed 20 May 2009 11:42:52 GMT+1 capetrib #29 - Celtic have a home record in the Champions League that few teams in Europe could better! For years we were told that Henrik Larsson couldn't hack it in the Premiership. Complete arrogance!You metion 'Celtic success, Villa nobody' Shaun Maloney, but did you deliberately decide not to mention Villa's Player of the Season Stilian Petrov who came from the SPL and seems to have managed quite well in the Premiership?If UEFA introduced rules limiting the amount of foreign players allowed to compete in European competition what would become of the Premiership? There is probably a handful of English players (at best) who could make the grade at Europes top teams! Wed 20 May 2009 08:31:49 GMT+1 Zootmac The linesman made the call. The ref made the decision. It was the same linesman and ref who who were so pathetically conned by Lafferty.The ref has now acknowledged that the decision was wrong.Good to see the SFA praising Walter Smith and Rangers for their prompt response to the Lafferty disgrace. More of this, please. Wed 20 May 2009 07:59:37 GMT+1 hackerjack I retain the unhealthy suspicion that Bougherra's ordering-off was an over-reaction by a referee who belatedly recognised that he had been conned by the Ibrox winker, and felt that he had to make a reciprocal move in Aberdeen's favour.---------Suspect all you want, the linesman made the call, not the ref.---------one thing was decided upon last weekend and that was 3rd place. Where was the paragraph about the all conquering Jambos?--------All conquering = 3rd? Oh dear.The Scottish league Is getting worse each season, in the early 90's Rangers especially had a team that could live with some of the top teams in Europe in terms of skill. Since then their best players have consistently been ones that either could not hack it in the premier league or were never good enough to get there in the first place.Just look at this seasons crop of signings, whereby the top two used to be able to bring in players like Henrik Larsson and Brian Laudrup, this years crop include Man City failure Georeos Samaras, Celtic success and Villa nobody Shaun Maloney, Championship Cardiff's Glenn Loovens and Willo Flood (a player deemed not good enouguh at Ninian Park), the hard working but limited Pedro Mendes and multiple times not good enough Steve Davis. Wed 20 May 2009 07:32:41 GMT+1 SugarDunkerton Collie21... Whilst I wouldn't normally justify a response to someone talking utter nonsense.. yours breaks precedent.. Firstly United didn't buy Liam Miller, he saw out his contract..Secondly what games were you watching where he was 'the best midfielder in Scotland' you must be on a different channel from me to go with the different planet you reside on.. he showed promise, nothing more.. left before his time and has since become a poor professional.. look at Roy Keane's comments about him at Sunderland. Wed 20 May 2009 07:24:06 GMT+1 broxified This post has been Removed Wed 20 May 2009 06:34:37 GMT+1 SuperKillie1869 This post has been Removed Wed 20 May 2009 00:47:27 GMT+1 Keep The Faith I have no evidence but i am confident that im right and lafferty will receive a two game ban.The booking for the initial challenge took him over the 18 point threshold so therefore will miss the first game of next season anyway and what i believe to be another two game ban for trying to con the referee. I heard it on BBC Radio Scotland this evening and they are usually pretty reliable. Keep The Faith Tue 19 May 2009 23:14:21 GMT+1 kujawak "Should Gordon Strachan really have left Aiden McGeady out of his team at Ibrox? Does Walter Smith have special glasses that make Andrius Velicka look like a striker?" - Quite possibly the stupidest two sentences I've read on the BBC.First, McGeady was left out of BOTH Ibrox games. As I recall, Celtic won the first one. There's plenty of other "what if" questions for Celtic before that one. What if they had been able to beat Rangers at home this season for instance? Or Hibs or Dundee United away?Second, Velicka has been banging in the goals for Rangers - at least up until his own questionable omission from the Old Firm game. And lets not forget, he had a much better scoring record against Celtic at Hearts than Boyd has had against them at either Kilmarnock or Rangers. Of course, Boyd is a Scot and the darling of the press no matter how lazy, while Velicka is just some mercenary foreigner. Personally, I think they're two of the same thing, with Velicka possibly the slightly more clinical finisher of the two.As for the rest of the sentiment in the article... personally I'll be glad when it's all over. At least then someone will have to take the league title - clearly no one actually wants it. Although I fear next season could be just as bad. Unless Hearts acquire a striker. Finishing third when your top scorer has about half a dozen is an impressive achievement. Imagine where they could finish if they could finish! Tue 19 May 2009 22:57:37 GMT+1 dublinbear Keep The Faith,UEFA made ammendments to their rules, but i believe they can only be applied in UEFA competitions. Gordon Smith tried to bring in more stringent punishments for 'simulation' in the Scottish game, but was blocked by FIFA. Yellow card is still the only punishment available, although i'm prepared to be proved wrong if anyone knows better.It's possible Lafferty can be punished for 'bringing the game into disrepute', but there is no precedent for this for diving, so any appeal by Lafferty would likely succeed. Tue 19 May 2009 22:51:32 GMT+1 Keep The Faith DublinbearI understand that uefa have made amendments to the rules and lafferty can receive a two game ban for trying to con the referee- or at least that is what they were muttering on the radio.I am only 16 and havent seen or heard of the Lennon incident- i will take your word for it. If this is true it would have been roughly 6 years ago? Therefore the sfa or uefa simply didnt have the power to take action as the amendments to the rules have been made fairly recently. Tue 19 May 2009 22:18:07 GMT+1 dublinbear Plenty of luck with the banner Bruce. Rangers sent a party to Dublin with the Scottish Cup, great night had by all. Not a green and white hoop in sight.I suppose McDonald has been referred to the review panel because he got the ball? You think they are going to congratulate him on a fantastic challenge? Tue 19 May 2009 21:40:47 GMT+1 collie21 Liam Millers release from QPR says everything about Scottish football. While at Celtic he was the best midfielder in Scotland, bought by United he didn't cut it, nor at Sunderland and now not even at QPR. Bring on the old firm but stick them in the Blue Square. Tue 19 May 2009 21:04:54 GMT+1 Brucewriter Oh dear Dublin bear, McDonald first. He went for the ball and he got the ball. That was his intent. He pulled his leg back when he realised how it was going to catch Wilkie, which is why Wilkie carried on playing. If he'd kept his leg straight, like Bougherra, then yes you could say there was intent. But he didn't and his challenge isn't even in the same league as Bougherra's. I doubt his intent was to catch the keeper on the face, but it was a reckless challenge for a ball he was always going to be third to and it was only good fortune there wasn't serious damage to Langfield. Loovens, fair enough. A sneaky one and he'll get done for it. Any luck with your banner yet? Tue 19 May 2009 21:01:08 GMT+1 Hiro_Spiceadder Dida's play-acting in the Champions League against Celtic got him a two-match suspension...I don't know if the rules are the same in the SPL though. Tue 19 May 2009 20:20:16 GMT+1 dublinbear Keep The Faith,The maximum possible punishment for Lafferty is a yellow card for 'simualtion'. Not sure if this can be added onto the yellow he received, making a red, but that would make the biggest punishment a one game ban for 2 yellows.Precendent - Neil Lennon getting Juanjo sent off feigning injury after a similar incident in an ICT V Celtic game at Pittodrie. Juanjo's red was rescinded, no action was taken against Lennon. Tue 19 May 2009 20:04:37 GMT+1 dublinbear Brucewriter,Go read the rules, intent anything but irrelevant in this case, hence it has been sent to the review panel and should, quite rightly be overturned.McDonald's straight leg tackle on Wilkie (A player who nearly didn't play again because of injuries to that area) and Loovens double movement assault on Edu are there for all to see as perfect examples of intent.Both should have been red cards on the day and they continued on the pitch.Dry yer eyes. Tue 19 May 2009 19:51:20 GMT+1 Hibs-Beer-CoD-Girlfriend in that order I could of written this article (without all the poor playing of words). I suppose your article has a lot of relevance to what's happening but what about the relegation fight, just as exciting this year.But a dafty without any knowledge could of written this. Your as useful as Kirk Broadfoot's kitchen appliances (A simile there Chick, you might like it).Thank goodness for Jim Spence. Tue 19 May 2009 19:05:17 GMT+1 elemenopea Again, by far the poorest article BBC has published on the website. Tue 19 May 2009 18:39:46 GMT+1 tclee Dear Chink, Are standards falling so dramastously? or are we seeing this through rose coloured spetacles?yours sincerely Tom Ferry Tue 19 May 2009 18:20:58 GMT+1 beavso2005 chico.2 very mediocre old firm teams.lets be honest here.what price a hearts and united win on sunday.god i hope so.craig levein should have got manager of the year.he is the first manager since jim mclean that we trust with our club.all thanks to eddie t Tue 19 May 2009 17:57:37 GMT+1 1960bear Everyone agrees what Lafferty did was out of order and he will have to endure the taunts for years but chico did you come out and chastise Joe Jordan for his deliberate hand ball that got us to Argentina. Oops forgot its not cheating when your team wins. Stop this nonsense that scottish players dont cheat, nearly every player will cheat to some degree. Tue 19 May 2009 17:23:42 GMT+1 RoscoeLovesTheStella ever thought of another career ? Tue 19 May 2009 17:12:58 GMT+1 Keep The Faith ChicoYou constantly sit on your high horse bemoaning the abuse strachan receives from the minority of celtic fans, then you criticise his team selection in a game which we completely dominated and deserved to get something out of- i backed his team selection against rangers because mcgeady has been average at best this year and his final delivery at times is shocking. Mcgeady also doesnt defend as well as maloney who also has far better technical ability and delivery into the box.When wgs starts Hesselink- as he did at ibrox incidentally you need a player that can find a man because Hesselink has all the movement of a snowman.I also find it hard to see the critcisms of Smith who in starting velicka has never lost a game you will find.However i agree with you on the lafferty incident,and i feel he seems to be receiving limited criticisms. This is a player who successfuly attempted to get one of his fellow professionals sent off, with his wink he also highlighted his true character and a proudness of the incident, which for me is unforgiveable. The sfa should give him the maximum possible punishment- not to make an example simply to send a message. Tue 19 May 2009 16:58:43 GMT+1 LawrieReilly #5 Are these the same "all conquering Jambos" that drew 10 and lost 11 league games (including both the last derby matches)? Tue 19 May 2009 16:51:07 GMT+1 Zootmac "... on Sunday", of course. Sorry about that, as Kyle would say, when pushed... Tue 19 May 2009 16:50:36 GMT+1 Brucewriter Bougherra's challenge was dangerous - he went in for a ball he was never going to get, studs up and caught the keeper in the neck and face. Intent is irrelevent - otherwise most fouls could be challenged. Nowhere else but Scotland, with Rangers wanting a player back for a league decider, would he get off with it. It'll be a scandalous decision if the SFA do rescind it. Tue 19 May 2009 16:46:28 GMT+1 Meazza As you say Chico the title's still up in the air (literally come Sunday) as is relegation, but one thing was decided upon last weekend and that was 3rd place. Where was the paragraph about the all conquering Jambos? Tue 19 May 2009 16:37:12 GMT+1 ....and surely that's great news for the rest of scottish football. This post has been Removed Tue 19 May 2009 16:17:23 GMT+1 THEJiriJarosik This post has been Removed Tue 19 May 2009 16:01:15 GMT+1 CraiStew This post has been Removed Tue 19 May 2009 15:45:15 GMT+1 Zootmac If Bougherra loses his appeal, Rangers will be without their best player for the most difficult and most important game of their season.I retain the unhealthy suspicion that Bougherra's ordering-off was an over-reaction by a referee who belatedly recognised that he had been conned by the Ibrox winker, and felt that he had to make a reciprocal move in Aberdeen's favour.Walter Smith responded to the Lafferty con with his usual impressive integrity, but he'll be furious to think that one consequence of Lafferty's antics is that Rangers might be deprived of Bougherra on Saturday. Tue 19 May 2009 15:40:24 GMT+1