Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html en-gb 30 Tue 04 Aug 2015 04:46:21 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html Nuvolari1970 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=99#comment126 This post has been Removed Thu 18 Jun 2009 16:31:55 GMT+1 wavejunkie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=98#comment125 ronaldo is good and a marvel to watch, but he really cant compare to any of the real greats of football: zidane, best, pele, or even maradonna. but on the other hand he does have a huge non-football oriented fan club. he is more in the class of beckham, but not quite as popular in england. great blog btw very creative writing style. Tue 16 Jun 2009 16:37:05 GMT+1 TheDeluded http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=97#comment124 If Portugal don't get to the world cup ... £80 million is gonna look a wee bit over-inflated. Good time to sell. Real definitely paying over the odds. Mon 15 Jun 2009 11:55:34 GMT+1 morgs7397 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=96#comment123 simpletruth09 what you are saying about diving is not necessarily the point and how you can say the extent of his diving is "average" is totally unacceptable, have you not watched the lad? Plus its the reaction and tantrums he throws, its like he thinks "you cant tackle me im too good so has to be a foul" its a disgrace. Sour grapes? No. I think you must watch him through tinted lenses. P.S. he is not in the same league as the geniuses mentioned. Sun 14 Jun 2009 11:55:50 GMT+1 bertrandmcnally http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=96#comment122 simpletruth, simpletruth, simpletruth...say his name three times.... Should we correct your spelling, grammar, hypocrisy and general cognitive dissonance? Sat 13 Jun 2009 23:06:17 GMT+1 Bodin! Fachy Fawr http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=95#comment121 I wouldn't mind betting that the EPL has 3 out of the 4 CL semi-finalists next season as well ... and the other one won't be Real Madrid.I don't think La Liga can be regarded as the better league until they find another half decent team to challenge the 'Big 2'. Sat 13 Jun 2009 17:54:09 GMT+1 WhitleyBayWonTheVase http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=94#comment120 To #115, SimplyTruth09:I have read a lot of your posts on articles. The fact is that the vast majority of them seek to belittle other posters and dominate with your holier than though gospel. So, please don't patronise me with your self proclaimed encyclopedic knowledge and see fit to use phrases such as 'i wonder what some people are thinking' and 'why they feel the need to post anything like that'.You attempt to deride what is the opinion of others with unintelligent and witless comments that show complete inconsideration for the fact that blogs are a part of this community that spur conversation, debate and inevitably bring about differences.By all means, state your opinion, but please save me the condescending tone that you force upon others. These are open discussions that are ruined by users who cannot give constructive posts without the need to resort to attacking others.Don't do it with my posts. Sat 13 Jun 2009 10:35:18 GMT+1 RossiCAFC http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=93#comment119 Roonaldos - buy an attacking midfielder(diego?)Have you not heard that he has already signed for Juventus?It was one of the earliest big money moves this summer.I would of said Diego might be worth a shout for United but it won't happen now.Also, I'm not sure you could get Benzema in. Rumour has it Juventus are gonna offer Lyon David Trezeguet + cash for Benzema.I'd put a cheeky few quid on that happening. Sat 13 Jun 2009 09:20:59 GMT+1 el-greco http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=92#comment118 Good player but far from deserving the praise you give him. Anyone else of similar calibre who got the type of quality service he got from his team mates would have scored as many goals as he did. Free kick failure rate was also high compared to the great free kick takers of the past, but sure, if and when they connected and on target, invariably you got to see a great goal. Stepovers: big deal! Rivelino did this and better in 1970. He's talked about like he's a Best, or a Pele, or a Maradona. Forget it, next to those guys he's just a one trick pony. It'll be good for the team not to have him next season. Fri 12 Jun 2009 20:32:51 GMT+1 ArsenalArseneArshavin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=92#comment117 I don't understand rival fans that want him to leave the PL. We want to see the best players in England not Spain, and we don't want to win trophies because the sale has weakened United. It is more satisfying to win when they are strong. As much as I hate him, I wanted him to stay..Now La Liga is going to be awesome with Messi, Kaka and Ronaldo. They already have Henry, Iniesta, Villa, Silva, Eto'o, Robben etc etc Fri 12 Jun 2009 19:40:37 GMT+1 Roonaldos http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=91#comment116 buy a goalkeeper, foster isnt great yet and vds is old and not as good as he has been, the reason he doesnt concede many is because of the defence.buy naughton, then we will have the perfect defence.buy a defensive mid(could be toure). hargreaves may be forced to retire, and we dont have any real ball winners.buy an attacking midfielder(diego?), our current ones are old or simply not good enough yet(anderson). buy valencia for the right, sell nani.buy ribery for the left, if he will come.buy tevez, or a tall centre forward who is good in the air and plays on the last man. this could be benzema but i am not convinced by him completely. Fri 12 Jun 2009 18:06:22 GMT+1 Salt4Zombies http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=90#comment115 As a Manchester United fan, I am personally torn at this news. On the one hand, I dislike CR's antics, to the point of finding them difficult to defend. On the other, he has been the "special" ingredient for, at least, the last three seasons. I wish him well!Lokking forward, Benezema(sp?) is amazing. I think that the OT spotlight makes players better, and here's a guy who has, realistically, stated that he wants to be the best in the world. I say give him a chance.Riberieryieie (sp!) is great, as is Villa. However, as in any walk of life, you should strive to identify your weakest link, and then improve it. Don't mess with what works. In our case, the weakest link is in the defensive midfielder role. I rate Carrick and Hargreaves and Fletch, but Iniesta et al. showed us all that good defensive knowhow can be combined with forward thinking abillities.Anyway, just one fanatics oppinion, but I'm sure that I speak for everyone here when I say; "Bring on 2009/2010"!Have a good summer! Fri 12 Jun 2009 15:35:59 GMT+1 SimpleTruth09 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=89#comment114 "The English premier league is miles ahead of La Liga. It makes no difference whatsoever that Madrid bank roll Kaka, Ronaldo and whomever else into their league. The overall standard of the teams and the quality of play in La Liga is still well below that of the Premier League."Sometimes you read things like this and wonder what people are thinking about. La Liga is easily equal to the EPL and in fact I would say the standard of teams is actually higher. The main difference being is that the EPL have 4 teams playing at a very high level where Spain really only have two. After that though, the Spanish teams are probably stronger all the way down the table.Of course the entire debate is completely pointless since the entire purpose of these leagues is entertainment. With that in mind I think just about any (league) netural fan would agree that La Liga is every bit as good to watch as the EPL. Which is what makes me wonder what someone is thinking when they feel the need to post something like that.Now my feelings about Ronaldo. The guy brings out something about people. You will notice anytime a player likes this moves out of the country, a great deal of people will feel compelled to say negative things about them. To me that is a good sign of the players true quality. So basically the negative comments go like this. He was not a team player. Well the truth is we all no better than that. Period. The guy had far more assist than Rooney (who according to this forum did the donkey work. But still could not manage the assist? Illogical.) But more telling is none of his team mates have ever accused him of that.But, we also have the diving-whinning-ect guys. These guys are safer since its just opinion but stats would suggest the opinion he dives a lot is probably not correct. Or at least the stats suggest he does not dive anymore than any other top player. In fact, by the numbers, Messi is the worst diver in the game. Personally, I think Ronaldo is fairly average when it comes to diving. When I am looking around the EPL for the worst diver, from the top players, Gerrard is the person I think of. But no matter who it is, pointing to Ronaldo is more like some can of sour grapes.So anyway what does this mean to Man UTD? Well that is hard to say. Despite the opinions of "the world sucks crowd" both RVN and Beckham both did very well once moving on from Man UTD. In fact both improved as players. at the same time in both cases Man UTD suffered the following season but then got right back to business as normal after a short period. I think this will be no different except one thing - £80m is a lot money. So its a good move for Ronaldo and you would have to think despite losing a great team player it will be good for Man UTD as well. Man UTD need to replace Ronaldo, and soon Giggs/Scholes - I think with £80m that should not be to hard. Fri 12 Jun 2009 14:34:47 GMT+1 Seen-It-All http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=88#comment113 One important point being overlooked is CR's intense desire to leave Manchester United and play for Real Madrid. His motivation will reach new levels at the Bernabeu, and I think he will be even more successful (and happy) there than he was in England. I pity United when they next meet RM in the Champion's League! Fri 12 Jun 2009 14:32:27 GMT+1 Diala Anthony http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=88#comment112 "Emmanuel Pogatetz?" Are you drunk, Robbo? Fri 12 Jun 2009 14:28:15 GMT+1 Charlton2Best2Law http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=87#comment111 The finest players play for the team - by using their abilities to help the team win. Best was criticised (by Charlton amongst others!) for being self-indulgent - it wasn't unknown for him to beat a player then go back to beat him again. The point is that Ronaldo was central to United's success the last two years - especially last year. What, exactly, should he have done 'for the team'? Played in defence? How often have you seen Pele or Messi tackle back? How often did Maldini dribble past players or score incredible free kicks? This is such a stupid attitude and is based on dislike of Ronaldo, not any true understanding of football. Fri 12 Jun 2009 14:13:33 GMT+1 Charlton2Best2Law http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=86#comment110 Re. torontored. The old myth about Ronaldo 'going missing' in big games. Like Messi against Chelsea? Actually, Ronaldo usually did well in big games, either being our best player (as against Arsemal and, I think, Barcelona) or by taking three players out of the game because the opposition was terrified of him. Messi wasn't the best player in the final, and was simply poor in the semis; marked out of the game by Boswinga? Wow. In the biggest games players like Messi and Ronaldo will never dominate completely; but they will produce one or two flashes which can change the game. Ronaldo would have done that of Pique hadn't got away with the most cynical (ah, beautiful football, Barcelona) body check and still remained on the field. Also, Rooney will now come into his own. Ferguson's biggest mistake has been playing him as a left winger. Watch him go this year - and in Europe he will be a revelation. Fri 12 Jun 2009 14:01:22 GMT+1 Charlton2Best2Law http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=85#comment109 Something that does irritate me a lot is the criticism of Ronaldo angling for a move, then criticism for being upset at being substituted against City - no, that's all justified, but what of Tevez? He's spent most of the year doing snide leaks to various newspapers around the world, claiming the problem is he doesn't get picked enough, that Ferguson doesn't like him, that he doesn't want to stay; then when he is substituted after playing very badly he not only acts like a crime has been committed but tries to stir up argument between fans and Fergie. It seems his atrocious attitude is accepted because he runs round pointlessly a lot, huffing and puffing. His stats aren't as good as Berbatov's, yet he clearly thinks he is God's gift to football. Ronaldo has the ability and final product to outweigh his sometimes poor behaviour. Tevez would be a real waste of money; Ronaldo is still a bargain. Fri 12 Jun 2009 13:53:50 GMT+1 earlpiggot http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=85#comment108 Who the hell are the Footballing Goats of Skiathos? :-D Fri 12 Jun 2009 13:51:36 GMT+1 Parish87 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=84#comment107 Cya RonaldoCya RonaldoooooJetting off to Spain, won't be back againCya Ronaldooooo Fri 12 Jun 2009 13:51:13 GMT+1 redforever http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=83#comment106 Fun to see United fans trying to put a shine on losing their most influential player for the past 3 years. No amount of signings will put a better and more impactful player on the field. Its also fun to see how confident you are in the two recent signings Tossup Legjig? I am sure they are good players, but its a long way from, potential to world class.One thing I have seen picked up as much as I expected, was how poor Ronaldo was in the big games. He did score that great goal in Porto, but 9 times out of ten he is nowhere to be found in big matches.I also believe Rooney has benefitted greatly from the partnership with Ronaldo. They seeme dto have telepathy. With his buddy gone, you might find Rooney a little less effective.Finally not much mention of Ferguson having to eat his words about not selling to the Real Madrid "mobsters"....I am sure he will wriggle out of it by pointing out that they have a new President. Fri 12 Jun 2009 13:12:33 GMT+1 HoldenIBM http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=82#comment105 America's Los Angeles Times took a more quirky look at the transfer by jokingly saying: "The hair-gel industry in north-west England suffered a catastrophic blow on Thursday in a world-record sports transaction after which the soccer marvel Cristiano Ronaldo seemed Spain-bound." Fri 12 Jun 2009 13:11:40 GMT+1 maccarelly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=81#comment104 I feel that this is just another step for Fergie that needed to be taken. He only gets rid of the big player if he is detrimental to the squad or the teamplay seems to revolve around that one player, examples of this being Beckham, Keane and RVN.He got a talking down from the players after the derby and was bad for the dressing room morale, good team spirit is seen to be key to Fergie.The team on the pitch seemed to be too reliant on Ronaldo creating something out of nothing or playing counter attacking football, Ronaldo being sold may lead to a different style of play.Hopefully the team for next season will be;VDSBrownFerdinandVidicEvraSigning from (Valencia, Arteta, Ribery)Hargreaves/Anderson (depending on Injury/Opposition)CarrickNani/TosicRooneyBerbatovWith possible further signings of Schneidjer and Rossi.Looking to the future Utd have exceptional potential (hoping at least some achieve it) so the short term needs to be resolved with a bit of creative talent/midfield general. Fri 12 Jun 2009 12:44:52 GMT+1 mortieboi http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=81#comment103 No better player has graced the EPL, yea we won't miss all the diving and hissy fits at the ref, but will miss the all round brilliance he brings. At the end of the day, £80 million is just to hard to turn down, but hopefully with him out the way, it will be Rooney's time to shine.How should of money be spent? A few names have been mentioned, Ribery, Eto'o, Silva, Benzema, all quality players and wouldn't say no to any of them, but i'd personally like to see a midfield general brought, same sort of mould as Roy Keane, someone who can boss the middle of the park, failing that, someone like either of the Barca two that totally out passed us in the final, Xavi & Inesta. Also i think Glen Johnson would be good business, he's getting better each season and with Neville's legs another season older, surely he fits the bill as a replacement? Fri 12 Jun 2009 12:31:34 GMT+1 djwaxon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=80#comment102 A lot of people are saying sign Tevez at the same time as saying this could free up Rooney, who could forge a good partnership with Berba. To play all 3, one of them's gonna end up out wide which isn't going to get the best out of them, and i think Berba and Rooney have the potential to be a more fruitful partnership than Tevez and Rooney. The Tevez money would be better spent on a central midfielder to run things, which united have been missing for a while now. Also, it would be nice to see Anderson given a chance to play his natural more attacking position next season... Fri 12 Jun 2009 12:08:18 GMT+1 Chippelsea http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=79#comment101 Good point about meaningless internationals.Had to laugh at Platini, moaning constantly about EPL and then Real Madrid cough up the biggest outlay ever in a week. Makes his favouritism look skewed.Ranaldo's an excellent player and will be missed, however, not by me. Whilst I found his skill fascinating and unquestionable, his step-overs left me yawning. No he is not the greatest, somewhat like Schumacher at Farrari, he was blessed to be in a brilliant team that made him look better than he is. If Real don't get the balance right, he will look like a clown doing party tricks. Fri 12 Jun 2009 12:04:12 GMT+1 HeartBreakKhid* http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=78#comment100 La Liga is the best league in the world, non-stop attacking football, the premier league is all about defending, the EPL it's over rated, Take the tinted specs off and have a real good look. Fri 12 Jun 2009 11:56:04 GMT+1 afcblegend http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=77#comment99 In response to post #4, I would welcome him with open arms to Bournemouth, but somehow I don't think that will happen... Fri 12 Jun 2009 11:44:47 GMT+1 mark harrison http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=77#comment98 Should United get the upper hand by bidding £81 million for Messi? I wonder how Ronaldo and Real (never mind Barca) would react? Fri 12 Jun 2009 11:24:08 GMT+1 WhitleyBayWonTheVase http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=76#comment97 What's all this nonsense about La Liga being the best in the world?When you support teams that only get on the telly when they win a final that no-one else knows is being played is when you take a lot of pleasure in watching any level of league football - especially Premiership football.The English premier league is miles ahead of La Liga. It makes no difference whatsoever that Madrid bank roll Kaka, Ronaldo and whomever else into their league. The overall standard of the teams and the quality of play in La Liga is still well below that of the Premier League.Since Barcelona beat Manchester United in the final it would appear that the death knoll of supremacy is being called. Why? Barca won fair and square but we all know that United had their worst game of the season - at the worst possible time. I don't wish to diminish Barca's achievement because they are a great club, but if you think their win and Real Madrids signings make La Liga the League of Choice - you're much mistaken.You would pit the Premier League against La Liga, team for team, every week and the English clubs would win 75% of the time. The overall quality is pants by comparison.All this Galactico clap-trap has been tried and failed. It'll fail again. Ronaldo will play for Ronaldo and spend most of his time wondering why the hell he listened to his Mum. Hes taken a step down in club and thats a fact.You can have the 10 best players in the world in your league but it doesn't account for the other 200+ average players. The Premiership is still the world beater.On another note, why don't some people learn? All these doom and gloom (rival optimists I suspect) prophets saying that United have been a one man team and will now go into decline. They'll be nowhere to be seen in a years time when SAF embarks on a trophy parade of the Premiership and Champions League - because if you seriously think that isn't a distinct possibility then you don't know football and you simply hope history doesn't repeat itself. Check your history books - this what Ferguson does better than anyone on the planet.Anyway, hes going to manage Whitley Bay next year. I may as well spout as much crap as some of the others on here. Fri 12 Jun 2009 11:05:47 GMT+1 HeartBreakKhid* http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=75#comment96 About time a player of his calibre is about to play in the best league in the world, La Liga. What a way for the Spanish Royal Family to respond to Barca's Treble. Kaka, Ronaldo, Who's next? Fri 12 Jun 2009 10:29:49 GMT+1 lorus59 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=74#comment95 flyingfireballxl5 Yes, you must be dreaming. It will take a hell of a team to get past Spain (not Brazil) in next year's World Cup. Fri 12 Jun 2009 10:07:18 GMT+1 ExPat Smoggie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=74#comment94 From his recent displays it was clear that the Madeiran Moper's heart was no longer with his club and irrespective of his undoubted talent, I can't imagine SAF wanting anyone in the dressing room that doesn't really want to be there. So, 80m quid seems a good price for someone who you know would have to be moved on sooner or later. I'm sure all SAF's talk of "Not even a virus" was just a way to squeeze an extra few million out of Madrid.But what to do with the money? Benzema seems a good bet, but doubt the quality of Ribbery. Even setting aside his fear of raindrops, to shine in the Bundesliga doesn't take much. Somehow, I can't see him excelling in the Prem.Good blog as ever Robbo and have a beer in the Bluebell for me. It's been over 25 years since I last popped in for a swift'un. Fri 12 Jun 2009 09:39:35 GMT+1 Macca http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=73#comment93 This is great for Utd. They get 80 mil for a player that doesn't want to be there. No matter how good he is, if he doesn't want to play for the team then why force him to stay?When players play for money and not for the club then it's survival of the richest. It won't matter how "great" your club is or how "big" they are, if they don't have the cash they will fall behind in the pecking order. Fri 12 Jun 2009 09:32:57 GMT+1 hatyaidanny http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=72#comment92 i'M a red and I'm happy. At least now I can join everyone else in the world and call Ronaldo a #### Fri 12 Jun 2009 09:26:24 GMT+1 ayresomeparker http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=71#comment91 Hmm... for what it's worth, I've felt all along that the truly great players (Pele, Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Platini, Maldini, Messi etc.) play for the TEAM, as do the merely darned good (Moore, Socrates, Magath, even Gerrard etc.), whereas the talented poseurs (there have been many but Cristiano Ronaldo is close to the top of the list!) play for THEMSELVES! I think that this is a serious consideration when discussing the merits of particular players and would be interested to hear what the learned public thinks! Fri 12 Jun 2009 09:22:40 GMT+1 gnuchu http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=70#comment90 "Mediterranean mope" - come on Robbo, you're slipping. He's from Portugal which is on the Atlantic... Fri 12 Jun 2009 09:06:20 GMT+1 JonnyC11 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=70#comment89 CR7 has obviously left because he is afraid of having to play against George Elokobi next season. Fri 12 Jun 2009 09:04:51 GMT+1 palace_mark http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=69#comment88 Ronaldo for £80m?Fair play if you have the backingWe at palace will be lucky to be given 80p to fund our team this summer!The gelled tumbler was good for the premier league, imagine how many full backs have trained harder, just to stand a chance of keeping him quiet!! Shouldbe interesting to see who SAF brings in during the summer, although all this talk about ribery? I cant see it happening!Away from all of this tumbler chat now, because the best comment on this blog belongs to post 11!!!Jimmy Greaves was hilarious on Wednesday night. The genuine confusion as to who Andorra were, and how terrible they are! And the fact that the old boys could beat them even today!WHY IS THIS MAN NOT STILL ON THE TELLY???? Fri 12 Jun 2009 08:51:48 GMT+1 spurelgreco http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=68#comment87 I think you will find the "Footballing Goats of Skiathos" won the EURO in 2004. Fri 12 Jun 2009 08:48:35 GMT+1 chiangmaiblue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=67#comment86 It's probably the best thing that could have happened for United, Ronaldo was becoming too much of a one-man-band and not a team player. The final of the Champions League was a great example of him thinking he was going to win the game on his own and ultimately failing. Fri 12 Jun 2009 07:57:59 GMT+1 Robbing_Hoody http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=66#comment85 Glad he is gone. Easily Utd's best player and most goals come from him. They'll win nothing without him- that's not to say they are a one man team though. It's just that Cristine really is that good, irreplaceable in fact.People talk about Ribery but he has only got into double figures three times in his career, never scored more than 20 goals and is unproven in a top league. Ditto Benzema, Valencia, etc.They will be lost without him despite the money. Be a tight league next season but just cannot see Utd winning it without him. Fri 12 Jun 2009 07:35:00 GMT+1 flyingfireballxl5 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=66#comment84 utd should go out and buy messi.now watch rooney become world class.world player of the year will be an english men in 2010. top scorer in the world cup will be rooney with 12 goalsengland v brazil final 3-2.i must have been dreaming Fri 12 Jun 2009 04:18:16 GMT+1 Simon_CTFC http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=65#comment83 As a neutral to the Premier League, it will be a shame to see him go. Not only did he bring fantastic talent to the table, but there was always some kind of controversy with him if his step-overs didn't entertain you enough; diving, winking, dreaming of playing in white...Utd have done well to get £80 million for him, as I got the feeling Ronaldo started to think he was bigger than the team. We've seen this happen at Old Trafford before, and when the player leaves, a new one or two is brought in, the team is rejigged, and they go on to a fantastic season. If Utd do not win the PL next season, it won't be because Ronaldo left. One man does not make the team, even if he happens to be the best in the world.It will be interesting to see how Real Madrid perform next season. Their purchasing, if the last few days can be a sign of things to come, suggests they are going for the 'We're going to score more than you' approach, and with the team they are putting together, you wouldn't bet against them. A stronger challenge for the La Liga title is the least they should achieve. Fri 12 Jun 2009 01:15:50 GMT+1 olympicgoat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=64#comment82 I'll be very surprised if Ribery goes anywhere in summer. He's stated that he's happy at Bayern, and Bayern have repeatedly stated that he's not going anywhere - in fact they put a pricetag of over 100m Euros on him not so long ago, if I don't remember right. They don't really need the money and Ribery seems happy to stay, so I can't see what would make them sell him. Thu 11 Jun 2009 23:03:36 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=63#comment81 #75 Well, I was referred to the moderator, not sure why but anyway, I thought a brolly babe might go down quite nicely, he wouldn't notice the rain. Perhaps it was the one hump or two comment? Hmmm, perhaps they'll let me know by morning. Squad number 47 should be available. Alan Kennedy should have had that one! Any other AK's? Thu 11 Jun 2009 22:11:31 GMT+1 Reddest_of_Devils http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=62#comment80 No. 35, here's your proof:Ferguson added: "After we played Sporting last week the lads in the dressing room talked about him constantly, and on the plane back from the game they urged me to sign him - that's how highly they rated him.Source? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/3142959.stm Thu 11 Jun 2009 22:01:44 GMT+1 Ginger http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=62#comment79 Re; The signing of Ron - at the time of the game it was said that he would be signing in 12 months but that was brought forward following a plea from the senior players. This is what I know but it isn't verified.The team will now play without Ron being the main focus. United's strength in the past is that the team have been the threat. Thanks for the memories Ron but it is time that you and Utd moved on, it's for the best.I do hope that we can secure Ribery, Benzema & Valencia, that would do nicely.Lets make it four on the trot! Thu 11 Jun 2009 21:51:36 GMT+1 WhitleyBayWonTheVase http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=61#comment78 I'm telling you all, forget Ribery. The man Fergy will go for is Karim Benzema.To begin with he is much more of a complete player than Ribery. Secondly, it is now recognised that he feels ready to move. A couple of years ago he said he wanted to mature a little more - and that sign of maturity in thinking will also appeal to Ferguson.Then, Lyon will take between 24-28m. That is a hell of a price for a hell of a player. Benzema has been the shining star of Lyon for years now and if you provide him with the support United could do - you have a future world player of the year on your hands.Don't be surprised to see SAF decide to make a bold bid for Xavi or Iniesta either - that is a real possibility. Thu 11 Jun 2009 20:32:48 GMT+1 G_is_God http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=60#comment77 #32 - "it was the senior players (Keane, Giggs, Neville) that persuaded SAF to purchase Ronaldo, after the infamous friendly match against Sporting Lisbon. SAF did not see the talent, the players did, so all credit should not be given to SAF""interesting point, if at all true...can anyone verify this?"How would you like this verified, a signed and stamped document?Ronaldo also almost signed for Arsenal, and he was offered to Liverpool before that too. SO SAF did not exactly pluck him at a tender age from a sunday footy team on one of his wine tasting trips to Portugal did he.. Thu 11 Jun 2009 20:15:58 GMT+1 collie21 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=59#comment76 what will you write about next season? No jellied eels at boro or jelled tumbling at United, it will have to be the jelly fish at the pool I suppose. Thu 11 Jun 2009 20:15:47 GMT+1 21shergar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=59#comment75 Very amusing, Nearpostheader. Reminds me of the old joke:Q. What's the score?A. Real Madrid 1 Surreal Madrid FishOnly now £156m for two players has moved the surrealism goalposts. The only thing Real Madrid needs to do now is to change Santiago Bernabeu stadium into a great big swimming pool to accommodate CR's diving. Apparently he refused to move to Madrid unless a set of complimentary scuba gear was included in the contract. Thu 11 Jun 2009 20:00:32 GMT+1 Spitfire http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=58#comment74 #73.Not sure where you are going with that camel, mate. I hope you are not one of those who struggle to tell your Afghanistans apart from your Iraqs.I happen to know for sure that the afghan girls are as much proficient in handling an AK as they are beautiful. All I am saying is, we are not ready to loose Ribery just yet. Thu 11 Jun 2009 19:47:27 GMT+1 aconlon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=57#comment73 You forgot to mention Bayerns chairman has stated that they wont sell Ribery for less than 150M Thu 11 Jun 2009 19:44:31 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=56#comment72 This post has been Removed Thu 11 Jun 2009 19:31:19 GMT+1 Spitfire http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=55#comment71 #71. Now why would you try to make life more miserable for Messieurs Ribery, who already is terrified of rain? The bloke is married to an Afghan lass and the brolly babe, as suggested, wont go down well in the good scheme of things. Thu 11 Jun 2009 19:19:34 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=55#comment70 #69 Nearpostheader...you're spot on with that and although Ribery might actually be ok with the climate on the South coast, Southampton/Portsmouth/Torquay etc. might not be a good fit on the footie and financial front. Manchester being the wettest City in Britain can't give 'em much hope but if it was me, for 8 million a year every day would seem like a sunny day, could they throw in a Grand Prix style brolly babe?Any road up, with this development will CR now be free to act as spokesperson for the Phil Brown range of skin care products in all of Spain? Thu 11 Jun 2009 18:57:40 GMT+1 diggsgiggs http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=54#comment69 There was a footballer, RonaldoUpon the ground he would frequently sprawl-doAlong came Madrid,Sayonara he bidBut in two years they all said "now where's Waldo?" Thu 11 Jun 2009 18:36:17 GMT+1 NEARPOSTHEADER http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=53#comment68 Shock horror! Ronaldo is off to Surreal Madrid - well, they had to; even Real would balk at paying someone 26m quid for nowt.Many seem to think Ribery will be on his way to the ToD - I wouldn't bank on that. He's already said he doesn't like the weather in the UK - and that obviously must take precedence over any footballing decision. Viila, too, has expressed a desire to stay in Spain.If Man U really need someone to play out on the left wing, why not go for Ashley Young? Thu 11 Jun 2009 18:29:44 GMT+1 lobotics http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=52#comment67 Good blog, I fully agree. Plus now I guess you'll stop with the "gelled tumbler" thing - it got a bit old after the 400th time. Thu 11 Jun 2009 17:52:02 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=51#comment66 That was a timely announcement Robbo, did they break the news to suit your blog deadline? There seems to be a suggestion that this was planned a loooooong time ago!Any road up, 80m is good business for Man U and good riddance to the crying, whinging SOD. Yes, it's been a pleasure to watch but he can get tiresome with his antics and you can bet your season ticket to the Bluebell that other key members of the squad will be happy he's gone.As for Rooney, I agree that he deserves his chance leading the line and I admire him for his patience but recall that Bobby Charlton spent a donkey's age on the left wing and wherever else Busby needed him. Rooney has done nothing but show what a team player he is. That's the big difference between him (others too) and Ronaldo. With Ronaldo it's all about Ronaldo. The legends of Manchester United or any other club, put their team first, even Besty who had unrivalled individual talent (way beyond CR's) was United through and through. I get the sense that Rooney is the same way. It's that passion that (true) supporters show up to see at clubs of all sizes. That's what turns us from nippers into lifers.Hopefully he'll be a better designated diver now that he's back on the other side of the road. Just be cautious of any adverts for a used right hand drive Ferrari. Thu 11 Jun 2009 17:27:06 GMT+1 Chris Wilby http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=51#comment65 As an Englishman, I'm quite used to blogs such as the above. However, as I have been living in Holland for the past 10 years, I have been watching the Dutch league as well and I can guarantee you that the vast majority of Dutch football fans would be absolutely flabbergasted by this blog! The Dutch are in complete mourning if a player like Robben leaves and they're preparing for Afelay's flight to Spain with a grand feeling of sadness. Robbo, I really enjoy your blogs, mate, but don't be happy about the best players in the world leaving the PL. Just in case all you guys and gals in England were wondering, there are some brilliant up and coming players in Holland, Aisatti from Ajax, Dembele who plays at AZ, Stijn Schaars also from AZ, van de Wiel from Ajax, de Guzman at Feijenoord, van Wolfswinkel at Utrecht, Elia at Twente and plenty more! Proud to be English, but there's more talent in Holland! !(#@%!(#*%(!#$*% Thu 11 Jun 2009 17:20:38 GMT+1 rush-onenil http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=50#comment64 17 Nov 1993. I'm stuck in bed with proper man flu, so summon up the energy to pop the telly on and watch england v's san marino. now i'm as proud of the three lions as any englishman, but the san mario dance through the static english midfield and defence to score after 8 second, had me rolling on the floor with laughter and almost instantly cured my runny nose and aching limbs. we need the minows 'cos every now and then they throw up a gem, or in the case of the faroe islands, every time they play scotland.as for christiano? can't wait for the reds to draw RM in the Champs League Thu 11 Jun 2009 17:17:34 GMT+1 Neal Richardson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=49#comment63 RVN. Ronaldo. Beckham. SAR knows exactly when a player has reached his sell-by date. Thu 11 Jun 2009 16:59:49 GMT+1 Spitfire http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=48#comment62 Aint that Alex bloke a genius.Some love others hate em, but like Murinho, EPL is at a loss without the designated diver. It is indeed a gift when a team sport could be reduced to what one individual is capable of.But who am I gonna laugh at when he does not get what he wants? Thu 11 Jun 2009 16:46:50 GMT+1 Theo Logical http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=48#comment61 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~you have to say he's the best player to have graced the EPL. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~EPL?? Robbo, you're not going the yank way too, are you? What will it be next? You sporting a "Go Team GB" T-shirt? Thu 11 Jun 2009 16:31:51 GMT+1 Malt Loaf http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=47#comment60 If United can find another £20 million then they can buy Newcastle. Thu 11 Jun 2009 16:15:19 GMT+1 U11947716 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=46#comment59 Can the BBC not afford an expert, or at least funnier, columnist that Robbo? Thu 11 Jun 2009 16:13:15 GMT+1 alwaysindoubt http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=45#comment58 Good bit of business for Man Utd. I'm glad it has happened so quickly as well, at least we don't have to suffer another summer of tedious rumours.Have to agree with #11 Robbo. How can you mention the Andorra game without Greavsie's hilarious interview? Priceless. Thu 11 Jun 2009 16:03:16 GMT+1 Marvin4England http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=44#comment57 Edit above. Last two home games against England! Thu 11 Jun 2009 16:03:12 GMT+1 Marvin4England http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=44#comment56 Am I the only person in the country who remembers Andorra getting to 0-0 at half time in their last two home games?Luxembourg beat Belarus this year, and the Faroes drew with Austria.I think a bit more respect should be afforded to smaller nations who punch above their weight. We win 7 and think we have a right to decide who should be allowed to play us?What next - criticising a referre because he comes from the wrong country? Thu 11 Jun 2009 16:02:34 GMT+1 Malt Loaf http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=43#comment55 Fully agreed Xaviewneville. I doubt Kaka will be so self-sacrificing when he plays with Ronaldo. Thu 11 Jun 2009 15:49:24 GMT+1 Xavierneville http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=42#comment54 Rooney overated?Not so sure about that....the only reason it appears is because is temperment is soft. Play Rooney up front week in week out and tell him you only want goals then that's what you'll get. Rooney was weak for accepting to play deep or in midfield. Ronaldo made it clear he is a forward and a part time winger, hence the goals and development.Rooney is not overated just soft in the head for not being selfish enough not something you could ever accuse CR of....... Thu 11 Jun 2009 15:43:33 GMT+1 reillster http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=41#comment53 Admittedly, the transfer budget will not be the full £80million, but with the off-loading of fringe players like Campbell, Gibson (thankfully as he was very poor in my humble opinion) & a few others, then The Wizard will have quite a hefty war chest available.Can't see Ribery coming to Utd though, or any other EPL team for that matter but who knows for sure?I'm looking forward to seeing who The Wizard decides to bring in & I hope he is able to keep Tevez so we can win the league one more time to go clear of the Mickey Mousers Thu 11 Jun 2009 15:31:35 GMT+1 kbains86 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=40#comment52 Ronaldo is leaving, obviously so he can become the most expensive player in the world, which im sure would give his modest ego a boost. I also believe he is leaving because he does not get enough protection from referees which i believe is true. He gets hacked down every game by dirty tackles from players such as Emmanuel Pogatetz (He's really bad ROBBO SORRY, even you would have to admit he puts some wreckless challenges in i.e possebon!!) (and i could name many more)........... these types of players r cowards!!Im sure you all play football so after 38 premier league games and say 10-15 cup games (domestic/european) your looking at around 50 games of dirty tackling.... That would take its toll on any1.Players cant stop him so they foul him rather than let him do something brilliant.Get rid of the thugs and cowards in football I say.... there is no room 4 them!! Thu 11 Jun 2009 15:30:16 GMT+1 LORDSAF http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=40#comment51 Why do the majority of posters assume United have got anything between £80 to £111m to spend on new players?There's an ever increasing debt to pay off as well as instalments to be met for Hargreaves, Berbatov et al.Fergie will be lucky to set a quarter of it to spend. Thu 11 Jun 2009 15:20:43 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=39#comment50 47: I think you'd have them all in a group to qualify for the qualifiers as it were... And yes TommyOnion, your Tom Daley comment was superb! Also loving Man Utd fans put the positive spins on this in regards to The Ferg-man, & fair play to you... Though it does appear that all through last season and especially when it looked like Ron was staying... Fergo was a genius for building his team around Ronaldo, him and Ron shaping the winning formula like a twisted parody of the clay scene from Ghost... And now he has gone, old beetroot's a shrewd player of the market who gets players to their maximum potential before selling on for a tasty profit, he's sitting prettier than a winning team leader from the apprentice, thats not only won the task but has had Margret play footsy with him all through Sugar's praise... Old Sir Alex is a man that can't do any wrong in the eyes of the Old Trafford faithful! But we'll see what happens, will the Yanks pay their debts and leave Fergie only the 30mil as agreed(enough to buy my club 60 times over!) ... Or will they go on a super market sweep style raid of the world leagues buying up players like a fat kid with extra pocket money in sweet shop? Who knows but Ill wager what ever happens, Fergie comes out smelling like roses... (anything to mask the whiskey ay!) Aldershot for cup... Thu 11 Jun 2009 15:17:50 GMT+1 randalthor1812 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=38#comment49 Who else thinks that there is no-way that the 80 Million will be spent , more like half will be servicing the debt ,which still leaves about 40 mill ...Tevez and one half decent defender and thats your lot .Here's hoping they finish lower than boro about 4th will do. Thu 11 Jun 2009 15:07:52 GMT+1 IanH http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=37#comment48 His value was only likely to diminish. Excellent work from United.I loved Ronaldo's goals but not his sulks. Make Rooney the main man and bring in a winger who wants to be there. Thu 11 Jun 2009 15:07:08 GMT+1 ormrodblue76 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=37#comment47 We will now see just how much a one man team ManUre are, The gelled tumbler will fit right in Spain the diving in La Liga is the best in the world.ManUre to finish 4th next season Thu 11 Jun 2009 15:01:55 GMT+1 2 of 3 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=36#comment46 Right after the Manchester Derby, I knew Ronalo was going to be sold. No player shows dissent to Ferguson so openly and stays at Man U. So the deal was already written in pencil back then . . .The problem with putting "Andorra, San Marino, Liechtenstein and the Footballing Goats of Skiathos" in their own group is that whoever won it would qualify for the World Cup. Yikes! I do feel sorry for thos countries as the only competitive football they ever get to play, is in situation where they couldn't possibly win. Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:53:57 GMT+1 kingrgs78 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=35#comment45 "31. At 2:52pm on 11 Jun 2009, TommyOnion wrote: I hear United have already lined up Tom Daley as Ronaldo's replacement"-----HaHahahahahaha - Jesus I laughed out so loudly in the office, everyone's looking at me :-) Can't stop laughing....Good one mate, good one! Although, young Tom's still got a lot to learn in the art of fine diving! I hear he's in secret talks with Ronnie for a few pointers! Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:52:11 GMT+1 lightother1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=34#comment44 the writing has been on the wall for Ronaldo at UTD for a while! in fact someone close to the club told me last year, he was staying for one more season then was going, end of! 80 million is a lot, UTD could have Arteta off us, for say £55 million.... plus hargreaves and Carrick!!!! Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:50:35 GMT+1 mambo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=33#comment43 Bye bye rollin Ron, have a good life, could you take Drogba and Gerrard with yer..... Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:30:27 GMT+1 Bellypork http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=33#comment42 Good read as usual Robbo. Bit of s shrewd move by SAF if you ask me as I think the lad had too many negative vibes (months of sulking after he was refused a transfer last time round) around him this season and was starting to become a liability. Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:30:26 GMT+1 WhitleyBayWonTheVase http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=32#comment41 Whilst I am sure Ribery is a name Ferguson knows well, I don't see him being the player he wants to sign. Benzema is the man that Ferguson most admires and who certainly holds most long term potential. Put him alongside Tevez, Rooney and lazy-fella, and the Man United fans will have forgotten who Ronaldo was within 12 months.Brilliant though he was, and most certainly the best player to have graced the league (I agree with you on that), he was also one of the most disloyal and childlike footballers and I'm amazed SAF put up with him for so long. Beckham, Van Nistelrooy, Schmeichel, Hughes, Robson (the real one, not you), Keane et al - we've all sat and watched them move on and think that we might see United go into decline. Then what happens? We all sit and think we wish he was our clubs manager a few years later when they're sweeping the board again.Ronaldo has gone because United don't need him. You can bank on that as much as the 80 squillion. Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:27:45 GMT+1 The Y http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=31#comment40 I'm looking forwrd to Man U fans now getting as irritated with his diving antics as the rest of us do anyway... Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:23:05 GMT+1 Sportirade http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=30#comment39 Just as a hypothetical exercise - what would be the Liverpool board decision be if Man Utd were to offer £50 million to Liverpool for Stevie G - still with enough left over to secure young Tevez with 5 million chump change left over to sign the best player in any club in any country formally in the communist block.What do you think Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:22:48 GMT+1 messiforrangers http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=29#comment38 I have just read bdyke04's comment and it is good to see another person who thinks rooney is completely over rated. Just compare rooneys progression over the last couple of years to ronaldo's. I believe that the only truly world class player england have (and by world class i mean in the top ten or so players in the world) is steven gerard. This is the view of many people outside of england. Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:17:26 GMT+1 RedDevilsAdvocate http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=29#comment37 @ 32 and 35The Lisbon friendly story is perhaps a little exaggerated - although Sporting are not a 'feeder club' to United in the same sense as, say, Royal Antwerp, they still have a close working relationship that led to us signing Ronaldo and then NaniWhile there is no doubt that Ronaldo's performance in that friendly brought him to the attention of United's players, there can also be little doubt that Ferguson or his scouting team knew about him already - and I believe Sir Alex has said something along the lines of 'after that performance we knew that we wouldn't leave the place until we had agreed his transfer' Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:16:51 GMT+1 21shergar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=28#comment36 Ronaldo is the only footballer ever to have suffered from the bends - because he spends so much time diving. Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:09:00 GMT+1 messiforrangers http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=27#comment35 The EPL cannot now be called the best league in the world because of the fact that out of the top ten players in the world the premier probably only has one or two whereas spain have seven or eight Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:03:38 GMT+1 DenistheGenius http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=26#comment34 #32 - "it was the senior players (Keane, Giggs, Neville) that persuaded SAF to purchase Ronaldo, after the infamous friendly match against Sporting Lisbon. SAF did not see the talent, the players did, so all credit should not be given to SAF"interesting point, if at all true...can anyone verify this?Sir Appley Cheeks is untouchable - i'm sure he'll turn around his "never deal with that mob" quote with some cunning PR magic. Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:03:04 GMT+1 Matt - Keith Lambs No1 fan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=25#comment33 The remark about Pogatetz being a PL great certainly had me laughing Robbo, nice one.I will not be remotely sad to see the "gelled tumbler" (Copyright Mr D Robson Esq) leave for pastures new. He may have a great talent, but the attitude & more importantly his well publicised balance problems, are something that I will personally be glad to see the back of !! Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:00:40 GMT+1 FanOfRealFootball http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=25#comment32 Read these Robbo blogs from time to time, each time I get the feeling the content is pretty weak. Thu 11 Jun 2009 14:00:13 GMT+1 b223dy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=24#comment31 Its a pity for peple to give SAF all the notions that he is responsible for Ronaldos success and how he knows when to sell players when they are past their prime.Is he not the same man that said he will never deal with the mob (Madrid)? Also, is he the one that spotted the talent of Ronaldo? You all seem to 4get so quickly that it was the senior players (Keane, Giggs, Neville) that persuaded SAF to purchase Ronaldo, after the infamous friendly match against Sporting Lisbon. SAF did not see the talent, the players did, so all credit should not be given to SAF on Ronaldos case. Rather SAF should be thankful to him for getting back ManU into winning ways. SAF may have the technical knowledge, but the 11 men on the pitch have to do their job to make anything work. Ronaldo did this for SAF, as the likes of Rooney (people talk aboout over rated players!!), Forlan, Berbatov, Saha, Park, Smith....never made the cut for SAF & ManU. Ronaldo gave SAF options which he cant get from any other of his present squad. Its solely because of Ronaldo that made him say that this is the best quad he has ever had. Robbo is bloggers like you that twist the truth for the unsuspecting fansGood luck to him, as it has always been his dream to play for Madrid and not ManU. We all know it, so fans of ManU and EPL should thank him for his contribution to English football. He brought the World Footballer prize to England in this modern era, know other present footballer in England can do this.PS this is from a non Ronaldo fan Thu 11 Jun 2009 13:56:52 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=23#comment30 I hear United have already lined up Tom Daley as Ronaldo's replacement Thu 11 Jun 2009 13:52:44 GMT+1 cleopatrakleo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=22#comment29 To say Ronaldo's career is downhill from here is nonsense. He's won everything he could for Manchester United and now he's off to revitalise Real and get them back to being European greats again, just as he did with Man Utd. It's a great deal for all parties concerned. Thu 11 Jun 2009 13:51:25 GMT+1 bertrandmcnally http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=22#comment28 I'll bet Robinho is kicking himself today.Kaka was in top form last night for Brazil against Paraguay, giving everybody, especially Robinho, many chances to win that game by more than just one goal. So Lassana Diarra will be Real's Mascherano? I can see it, he's pretty good. What do they do with all the extra bits of Orange littering the place? Thu 11 Jun 2009 13:36:23 GMT+1 phil http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/06/hata_la_vista_cristiano.html?page=21#comment27 Ronnie not a patch on last year when he obviously wanted to play for us. Madrid need him more than we do, hence the £80m - their way off the top slot in their own country let alone in Europe. Who was United's big miss in the CL final? Why the much-maligned Darren Fletcher! Bye Bye Ronnie, enjoy the adoration in Spain - just hope SAF spends the windfall wisely.. Thu 11 Jun 2009 13:35:42 GMT+1