Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html en-gb 30 Thu 10 Jul 2014 05:09:25 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=99#comment160 Always a pleasure to read your weekly ramblings Robbo and you should be forgiven for the Boro distraction that must occupy your thoughts at this time.Any road up....Moyes moaned about the pitch too. #55 is spot on about Berbatov but Harry is taking back all previously sold players at 50% off. It's handy timing for Kenny Dalglish too because he can have Robbie Keane's shirt and if they can just get Ian Rush and Crazy Horse back too they could mount a challenge in 2010. Toffees and Chelsea gave us a fine preview of the cup final tonight.The F.A. is looking to recruit Percy Thrower on a consultancy basis. He had nowt to do with the Baseball Ground which was, as pointed out, good enough for Hector, O'Hare, Gemmill, Mc Farland, Todd and some other greats of yester year. Thu 23 Apr 2009 01:24:18 GMT+1 Willdink http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=98#comment159 Great blog Robbo, havent seen any in a while so good to have them back. Agree with the SAF comment although the pitch did look like the Lions training ground. Need to get that sorted, don't want to have to hear Hiddink bemoaning the 'grash' pitch in the final. Everton for the cup! Wed 22 Apr 2009 07:39:24 GMT+1 Robbo Robson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=98#comment158 Have apologies (slightly) to wenger. Not going to bother with SAF. He did blame the ptich for his selection. NO question. Bandwagon leaves in 5 minutes Wed 22 Apr 2009 00:30:12 GMT+1 Djemba-Djemba-Djemba http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=97#comment157 Re:86. At 5:28pm on 20 Apr 2009, GazUtd wrote: My God!I don't read this for a few weeks, come back and find...I actually agree with Robbo!-----------------Jeez the irony, GazUtd DOESN'T have a pop at Robbo's blog (regular readers will understand what an event this is), and yet this is the first time I've EVER been really irritated by reading it (well, at the baseless pop at Wenger & Ferguson to be specific)! Come on Robbo, you know you've done bad, now apologise to BOTH of them or I'll join Gaz on the 'lazy journalism' bandwagon every week... Wed 22 Apr 2009 00:19:10 GMT+1 CarefreeCoors http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=96#comment156 First of all, I would like to apologise to Cactus99. Mate, to avoid confusion please put some sort of separation between yours and other comments when replying to another post, otherwise the comment will be mistaken as your own (as was the case here).Wash-CARU. Direct quote:"For the record, it was an Aussie company that was responsible for the debacle known as the New Wembley..."Hmm, certainly sounds like you are placing the blame on Brookfield Multiplex there. But you hit the nail on the head the second time around; this is the FA's fault. The fact that the pitch is used for numerous other events without being subsequently properly maintained highlights the fact that they are a bunch of money grabbing politicians with no regard to the game whatsoever. Tue 21 Apr 2009 22:40:42 GMT+1 Teiam - problem solved http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=96#comment155 Both teams do have to play on the pitch that doesn't mean one team doesn't have a disadvantage, if Stoke play Arsenal on a muddy uneven field, who do you honestly think is gonna have the upper hand?Also, Robbo, where you refer to your previous comment, shouldn't it read "see above" rather than below? I still think despite both teams having to play on the pitch, our team prefers the ball on the floor rather than in the air, unlike Everton who had Fellaini, Cahill, Saha etc... (I know Cahill is 2 foot) for their ability in the air whereas we had no one with height or ability so we had to have the ball along the floor! Tue 21 Apr 2009 22:33:38 GMT+1 Wash http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=95#comment154 To the clowns blaming the Australian company for the state of the pitch------------------------------------------------No-one blames Multiplex for the state of the pitch.I was merely pointing out that the FA made such a balls up of the contract that they are now financially in the do do and need to recoup the money lost by staging as many events at the stadium as they possibly can (I believe they are limited to 39 per year, although I am happy to be corrected). Tue 21 Apr 2009 19:46:56 GMT+1 BillBobJoeKenny http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=95#comment153 Excellent Blog as always Robbo, good to see all those die hard Gooners and Mancs failing over themselves to defend their team's honour.Several things1) Man Utd lost because of Berbatov's peno2) Berbatov is garbage3) Berbatov should be worst player of EPL4) Semi's should NEVER be played at Wembley, and doing so is a bl**dy joke. 5) Is it me or is SAF ranting more this season than usual?..............pressure?6) Is it true SAF is off at the end of the season?7) Wenger should change his name to Whinger8) I liked it better when Wenger had his post............and never saw anything9) Why did Wenger not buy anyone in the summer.......................no French players were for sale.Keep up the good work Robbo Tue 21 Apr 2009 19:01:05 GMT+1 unseenforces http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=94#comment152 boro goin down with blunderland....Geordie next season top table finish in the epl... Tue 21 Apr 2009 17:12:08 GMT+1 ClockEndMike http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=93#comment151 Pretty much rubbish as usual, Robbo. Still, it seems to get people talking (and often making comments that were so bad they broke the house rules). And I do agree with your point about the semi-finals being held a Wembley.Someone on 606 suggested that the extra 40,000 fans would be happy the match on Saturday was at Wembley. Well, I don't know. Would you rather see a poor match at Wembley, or take your chance on seeing a good one, even if it was at White Hart Lane? I know which I'd choose... Tue 21 Apr 2009 16:27:48 GMT+1 megaforest1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=93#comment150 Pitch to blame huh! How many thousands per week are these players paid to play football?And they cannot play football on the wembley pitch? I agree it was below par (and not for the first time) than most prem stadiums and games if not all of them. However, this is a just as much as a disadvantage for the other team too!Arsenal and Man U lost! Simple. Congrats to Chelsea and even more so to Everton! Well done for performing on such a bad pitch!Wembley- sort the pitch out and make Wembley look on the grass as good as the rest of the stadium looks! Tue 21 Apr 2009 15:35:23 GMT+1 Nessy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=92#comment149 The semi's have to be played at Wemberley because it cost so much cash and needs to earn some back. It's either football or yet more concerts.My feeling was always that we could do without building the thing, I'm sure the RFU would have let Twickenham be used if the FA had stumped them £100m or so. And that has a proper pitch. The game would be £600m better off and no-one would be moaning except the rugger purists, which is always funny, so EVERYONE wins.But we've got the thing now, bad grass and all, so expect to see more semis played on it. And how about QFs? What about one game from each round?Maybe the Premier League could hire it for the reverse fixtures of their 39th game proposal? Tue 21 Apr 2009 14:27:11 GMT+1 IrishTel http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=91#comment148 So four of the top teams in the world cannot manage to play football or score goals on a pitch where Luton and Scunthorpe produced a feast of a game for the JPT Trophy. Next time any of these whingers churn out a list of complaints can the interviewers do us all a favour and laugh in their face. Tue 21 Apr 2009 12:37:32 GMT+1 Y-I-1892man http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=91#comment147 spot on blog Robbo BUT..roll on May 11th?putting all your eggs in one basket?as a NUFC fan,I can´t wait either-however!take a gander at the run in for you boys,us,Blackburn and Hull-rather tasty.I´d like to think that W.Brom,Blackburn and Hull will be relegated but honestly think both Boro and the lads in black and white are in dire straits.I agree with many others about NOT playing the semi´s at Wembley,old fashioned?not at all-but the feeling to play at "THE ARENA" has always been and should be something special(the final).The surface is another matter-Barcelona have resolved their pitch problem,"bought" the gooners groundsman,who is English-so why wasn´t he approached for Wembley? keep on blogging Robbo,riveting stuff!!get´s a few going!! Tue 21 Apr 2009 11:30:30 GMT+1 Retirethenumber17shirt http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=90#comment146 Phil Jagielka Nuts of Steel Award - love it! Almost as good as James Richardson's comment on Setanta that Fergie was going through the kids like Madonna at an orphanage!The pitch was dire and probably explains the wizard of Oz's punt of a penalty, but it doesn't explain Berbatov's effort from the spot. Total disinterest in the proceedings and looking like Fergie's biggest mistake to date. If Teves leaves because Fergie's hung his hat on this waster, he needs his head testing.Boro v Barcodes is going to be the game of the season. Done the maths too Robbo and I'm going for Tigers, Barcodes and Baggies to drop. Keep the faith! Tue 21 Apr 2009 11:27:48 GMT+1 Tina http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=90#comment145 55. At 3:29pm on 20 Apr 2009, DazzlinDapsy wrote: Blunderland! Classic!I'm United supporter and I am very disappointed in Berbatov's extremely lazy attitude. For someone costing ?30mm, that is the greatest waste of money I have ever seen. I'd rather have a honest, hardworking Kevin Davies or a speedy and lethal Defoe?=========================================================================speedy and lethal Defoe .... struggled not to fall off of my chair laughing at this:-)) Tue 21 Apr 2009 11:18:50 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=89#comment144 #144... yes mate! And Robbo, when clicking on the cartoon picture of a grey pundit with a silly hat and the tag line "The Tees Mouth" i was expecting the sort of hard nosed journalism the BBC is world famous for! You can only imagine my shock when i learnt that it was a light hearted look at a "GAME" written in a comedic manner... I for one wont be renewing my TV licence this year! Tue 21 Apr 2009 11:12:07 GMT+1 JaytenWatch http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=88#comment143 You know it's odd, these multi millionares at the top of their profession can't produce a decent game between them. Yet somehow on that very same surface just scant weeks before Luton and Scunthorpe produced a cracker with some very classy goals . . .Forget these Premiership nancy boys and come watch some real football for a change!The Premiership managers are just becoming caricatures of what they once were with all these pathetic "mind games" and feeble excuses for why people paid so much money can perform so abjectly half the time. Tue 21 Apr 2009 11:05:21 GMT+1 Robbo Robson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=88#comment142 The point is that the playing surface is the same for all of the players. Lots of teams play long balls and as you admit it's up to your defence to cope. Arsenal didn't. United, to be fair, did very easily with Vidic and Rio. This 'oh the pitch wasn't nice' excuse is the same tired one that gets thrown around when a Prem team gets dumped out of the Cup in the third round. Sometimes a pretty passing game isn't enough and a bit of old-fashioned gumption has to be used n all. Tue 21 Apr 2009 10:44:30 GMT+1 Tina http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=87#comment141 "Cahill was anonymous and the languid Saha's lack of fitness made Berbatov look positively animated when he came on."======================================================================Hilarious :-) Tue 21 Apr 2009 10:33:24 GMT+1 2bagooner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=86#comment140 mattydaltonMan UTD / Arsenal both like to move the ball about quickly. So yes we did play on thew same pithc as Everton / Chelsea but the quality of the pitch doesnt affect their game as much.EG - both Chelsea's goals came from long balls punted up to Malouda / Drogba / Arsenal's goal came from passing and moving until Gibbs was able to get in the box and put a cross in.The pitch didnt help our cause but obviously the defence is mainly to blame - Silvestre / Fabianski in particular - Hope we can bounce back tonightWBA / Newcastle / Hull to go down (Phil Brown got too big for his boots after a good start and will pay the price)!!! Southgate will turn things around!! Tue 21 Apr 2009 10:22:58 GMT+1 Xavierneville http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=86#comment139 Clearly not too many grounds staff on this blog......Yes the pitch ahs been used for dust ups mud fights and a landing strip but.....Like all similar closed bowl shaped stadia, the air flow and growing conditions simply aren't suited to a good pitch. Arseanla is a more open bowl and well they do have a world class groundsman..... Tue 21 Apr 2009 09:58:37 GMT+1 stevo7777 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=85#comment138 Robbo - can you show the quotes that Fergie and Arsene made blaming the pitch for their defeats? Tue 21 Apr 2009 09:54:48 GMT+1 raszobbo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=85#comment137 Great blog RoEverton to win the FA cupMU to win the PL (or they already have it??!)Arsenal to win the CLNewcastle and Hull to go down!!Wembley to host semis for the next 100 years Tue 21 Apr 2009 09:37:27 GMT+1 MU_Andy_58 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=84#comment136 Good blog as usual Robbo.The semis should indeed not be at Wembley, it completely ruins the magic of the cup!As for the pitch, both teams have to play on it, true. However if one team is trying to pass the ball and the other is just using route 1 trying to locate a hairy Belgian then it does have an influence!! By the way that is not why we lost, the kids just were not good enough to finish it in open play and as for the penalties?????This is our National stadium and should be treated as such, it is a disgrace at the moment. I thought this was to be the home of football not rallycross. Tue 21 Apr 2009 09:18:05 GMT+1 Robbo Robson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=83#comment135 There must be 100s of U2 fans out there prepared to stand up for them otherwise how do they sell out Wembley stadium? Who are these people and why do they think a groaning pixie in wrap-around shades is the height of cool? Tue 21 Apr 2009 08:52:43 GMT+1 Starfire_99 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=83#comment134 @ DougCoglanSince when did Robbo claim to be a 'Journo'?And as you're going to attack his readers as well, I keep an eye on this column for the same reason I do with Jeremy Clarkson over on The Times's website: They both have a lighthearted dig at what going on around them in the world without pandering to the PC brigade at every sentence. And I find both of them amusing.Critisise Robbo all you like, but by all means try and write something better and get it published on here first before putting him down. Tue 21 Apr 2009 08:47:10 GMT+1 Zidanepirouette http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=82#comment133 #37U2 are not still making 'classics' - Get On Your Boots was terrible, and they have been rubbish now for over 10 years.Good blog this, in summary - don't have the semis at Wembley, Fergie is a whinger, Newcastle are going down and U2 are awful....all stuff i agree with!! Tue 21 Apr 2009 08:43:33 GMT+1 Robbo Robson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=81#comment132 #130C'mon mate - you say I'm pondlife and then resort to terms of abouse like 'journo'. Who said I'm one of them? I'm as entitled to my ill-informed opinion as anyone else is, and I'm quite willing to the counter arguments of self-appointed superiors like yourself. "So many flaws in your stupid blog I won't bother to begin"?No mate! Begin! Begin! Tue 21 Apr 2009 08:35:02 GMT+1 Chelsea_Jakeinho http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=81#comment131 Not a fan then DougCoglan Tue 21 Apr 2009 08:28:48 GMT+1 Lambo51 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=80#comment130 "Pitch imperfect" - that's what this article is headlined. Forget about whether the managers blamed it for their defeats, the real issue is that the contractors have made a pigs ear of laying the pitch. For the best, most expensive stadium in the world, it is an absolute disgrace.Funny how they can redevelop Twickenham and build new stadia elsewhere around the UK and get decent pitches - Emirates for example. The only other ground with such problems with the surface seems to be the Millennium Stadium and that suffers from lack of sunlight - a perennial problem in Wales.By the way, wasn't Wembley meant to have a working retractable roof. Whatever happened to that - it probably cost a big chunk of the £750 million - and if they had saved the twin towers instead of the stupid arch that would have saved another £150m or thereabouts.The new Wembley will never have the magic of the old stadium and because its such a white elephant they'll keep doing anything to recover some of the costs - including playing the semi finals there. Oh well, nostalgia ain't what it used to be! Tue 21 Apr 2009 08:21:27 GMT+1 DougCoglan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=80#comment129 Nice to see the BBC resorting to employing gutter press mentality journos... and they're proven correct by the number of people that praise this tripe each week.Never mind honesty, integrity and decency - popularity is what counts and if 'moving with the times' means pandering to fools then I guess that's what the beeb will do.So many flaws in your stupid blog I won't bother to begin. Tue 21 Apr 2009 08:19:00 GMT+1 dhenry http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=79#comment128 AF and AW were not blaming the pitch for the fact that they lost-everyine is criticising the terrible pitch.If Middlesborough go down and no longer appear on MOTD on the BBC does that mean you will be also relegated to another channel? Tue 21 Apr 2009 08:09:52 GMT+1 gerardlwk http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=78#comment127 whatever SAF likes as an excuse, you can say that his team selection is a weakened side but when it comes to taking penalties, none of the takers were from the reserves and the misses came from "the most expensive defender in EPL if not the world" and a "30m striker". so, no excuses and all the best to the Toffees whom I hope will make Chelsea end up without any honours this season. Tue 21 Apr 2009 05:01:19 GMT+1 M http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=78#comment126 Yup, that's it Robbo, jump right on the bandwagon. Mon 20 Apr 2009 23:47:02 GMT+1 bramwellpowers http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=77#comment125 Venez Tiger - Not sure why you think it'd be such a good thing for all 3 north-east teams to go down. The Premiership would be a quieter, duller place without them and I'd bet the vast majority of football fans and players look forward to visiting St James and Stadium of Plight a lot more than the KC arena or whatever it's called (and not just because they've got a good chance of winning). Not sure if this applies to Hull (suspect it does but can't be certain) but I'd like to see any club that needs to play music when they score a goal to be relegated. If your stadiums are that plastic and lifeless you don't deserve premier league football. Mon 20 Apr 2009 23:30:50 GMT+1 CarefreeCoors http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=77#comment124 To the clowns blaming the Australian company for the state of the pitch.The company is called Multiplex and they had nothing to do with the laying or condition of the physical pitch. The stadium was designed by 2 companies called Foster & Partners (UK) and Populous (US I think?). The engineer was also UK based if I recall correctly. Surely they are more to blame than Multiplex.There were also complications with the existing pipe system being laid incorrectly, again not Multiplex's fault. So Cactus99, kindly shut up as you clearly have no idea, cheers.Starfire_99, the FA (more specifically, a subsidiary of the FA who's name escapes me) were actually forced to compensate Multiplex for the unforeseen costs, some 40 million pounds in excess of the fixed price contract.All this aside, I am so glad that Ferguson got what he deserved by being dumped out of the Cup. First he says how he's "worried" that Moyes may have influenced the referee prior to the game. You could cut the irony with a knife, couldn't you? Yes Sir Alex, because you've never tried this ploy before, have you?Next he shows Everton complete disrespect by fielding a team made up largely of United's Under 14s.During the game, he has a marginal penalty decision go against him. Sure, it probably was a penalty, but how many times have we seen marginal calls go in favour of United? Too many times, that's for sure. His reaction was embarrassing, jumping around like a lunatic. Even the United players didn't react that badly.Finally, he blames the pitch for all this! Yes, the pitch was bad. Ask Everton, they had to play on it too. So did Chelsea, who didn't complain. Wenger can be excused as he voiced his concerns prior to the game.I couldn't believe it when he said the state of the pitch forced him to pick the team he picked. Chelsea, Arsenal and Everon all fielded full-strength sides (or very close to). Saving his players from injury is a poor excuse; Chelsea are still in the CL and Premiership (just about), Arsenal are still in the CL and fighting for 4th place and Everton are looking to cement their European place.Poor show Ferguson, although I can't say I've come to expect any different from you.On a side note, I think blaming the pitch is a weak excuse anyway; as Mother Guus said, there are much worse around than Wembley.Agree with you Robbo, U2 are God-awful and Bono is the fakest person alive. Mon 20 Apr 2009 23:14:31 GMT+1 ROCKDR http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=76#comment123 Robbo:I agree that it is an insult to the history of the FA Cup. The FA (what does that stand for again?) don't even value the history of the greatest football cup competition in the world. Even interviews with those FOREIGNERS people seem to dispair at (Malouda and Evra) show their awe at the importance of the FA Cup. The FA have lost the plot and should be burried beneath the pitch.Droves left the game before the end on Sunday to get home/on the way home before the traffic got bad. Another major error by the FA. Let's start the game at 5 pm it won't go to extra time will it? Chinless wonders with less than an iota of Footy nouse between them.Put it back to Villa Park etc.As to Fergie. There's another one who has lost the plot. I still cannot get my head around the game now where managers rotate their players and leave the best swanning at the pub and who knows where, rather than putting them on the pitch. How many games did Alan Ball, George Best and others miss because they needed a rest?Come to think of it. The FA and Fergie have both slighted the FA Cup. Fergie cannot be bothered to give the paying supporters and public what they deserve. To see the best play for the best. What an idiotUnited fans should be livid! He cocked up, he knows it and he will use any excuse under the sun, including I told you so (re going for the illusive 5). If you don't put the ball in the back of the net you ain't going to win games! Stop whining about one penalty decision. If you play your second string players you are less likely to score goals.Serves him bloody well right. Mon 20 Apr 2009 22:48:03 GMT+1 veneztiger http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=75#comment122 don't kid yourself you and the geordies are going down can't see where your 2 wins are coming from unless you fancy your next two games, your away form is absymal, so not much there, maybe a point at Newcastle in a bore draw.Don't diss Hull we've got Cousin coming back to net us a couple and 1 win and a draw will see us through, take your pick Stoke and Bolton, pity WBA are so bad it would have been nice to see Sunderland go down too, a North East pity pot in the Championship next season, oh well we can dream ! Mon 20 Apr 2009 22:47:16 GMT+1 bernieisgod http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=75#comment121 "It is amusing to hear a Newcastle fan crow about how arsenal are out the cup, not exactly setting the world alight yourself seeing as you are a big club as well...........apparently."Ermmmm... I guess Mister fozinio is either:a) incredily witty and skilfully employing irony or...b) not really a regular reader of Robbo's blogRobbo a Newcastle fan - now that is funny!!Sentiments about the jawdees totally reasonable though! Mon 20 Apr 2009 22:24:40 GMT+1 bernieisgod http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=74#comment120 "I suppose if theres one team in the bottom 3 I'd like to stay up, its probably middlesborough. Probably coz the manager is Southgate, who I think has done a good job until this season. "AAAGGHHHHHH!!!! It's Middlesbrough actually!!Stick to Boro - it's easier to spell!I'm with Robbo - I still believe Boro will stay up thanks to us sneaking 3 points up the road and Hull imploding!p.s. didn't even notice the semi's but well done Everton. I think they deserve far more lines of print than they get - and a lot more than that lot up the road from the Boro (obviously not talking about Blunderland 'cause nobody bothers writing about them - which is only right!) Mon 20 Apr 2009 22:16:20 GMT+1 chippy23dec78 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=73#comment119 Come on Robbo, you've got a reputation to hold up. Leave the lazy journalism to the tabloids and satellite TV. You're spinning what Wenger and Fergie said. I've read enough of your stuff to know that that you're capable of a lot better. That pitch was a beast and even brought John Terry down at one point. It was that bad he was given a free kick. Mon 20 Apr 2009 22:01:08 GMT+1 CerezoANDSocrates http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=73#comment118 #118I second that Mon 20 Apr 2009 20:26:14 GMT+1 Wengers Optician http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=72#comment117 I suppose if theres one team in the bottom 3 I'd like to stay up, its probably middlesborough. Probably coz the manager is Southgate, who I think has done a good job until this season. Mon 20 Apr 2009 20:05:54 GMT+1 bramwellpowers http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=72#comment116 Re No. 18 Fozinio - Firstly do you understand the difference between a big club and a successful club. Perhaps too subtle a difference for you to comprehend but it's an important difference. Secondly - when do Newcastle fans say Newcastle is a big club? The perception that Newcastle is a big club comes from the media and the fact that for a club winning nothing they take up an awful lot of press attention - often much to the dismay of the fans. Mon 20 Apr 2009 20:05:29 GMT+1 SportJournoStuden http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=71#comment115 I would just like to point out that Robbo is NOT a journalist. ( In fairness he hasnt ever claimed to be one ) He does keep being referred to as such though.... its just not true. Agree with the guy who mentioned people reading the comments before commenting as well... it gets a bit old reading the same point being made over and over and over and over and over and over.... you get the point. Well done to Everton... good pitch or not there were 5 pens each, Everton scored more of theirs than United did. Mon 20 Apr 2009 19:49:07 GMT+1 Starfire_99 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=70#comment114 Weren't the FA getting compo from the Aussie firm for ballsing up the construction and being late with the project?Or did I eat too much cheese before bedtime on that? Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:56:30 GMT+1 gringo Loco http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=70#comment113 For the record, it was an Aussie company that was responsible for the debacle known as the New Wembley...For the record it was the muppets at the F.A. who awarded the contract and therefore take the can.It goes along with selecting the wally with the brolly as England manager! Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:53:48 GMT+1 gringo Loco http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=69#comment112 The F.A. have to use Wembley for semis and any other oportunity to recoup some of the ¡vast amount the stadium cost. Was there some incompetence there? It became the most expensive stadium in the world. The new Yankee stadium is the 2nd most expensive, and they can't win on it.There is obviously more incompetence when they can't proiduce a pitch in the most expensive stadium in the world. The old Wembley hosted horse shows etc and the pitch was better than the current one. The camera shots made it look like they were playing polo, but I didn't see the people replacing the divots at 1/2 time.88000 at each semi, that's got to bring in some hard cash.Maybe they could have the semis at Twickenham!both matches were dour, but they usually are, too much at stake. why did Fergy play 7 or more reserves? The other day, he was talking about Rafa's lack of repect. Playing your reserve team is gross disrespect!!For that and nothing more, I'm glad Everton won. I hope they win the final, but I think it will be Hiddink's goodbye pressy. Unless Roman buys out his contact with the Russians.As an ex-pat, I won't be seeing anymore of my team for a while. the Baggies are going down down down.Can Shearer walk on water, I hope so. Middleboro to go down along with Blackburn.How does Mark hughes keep his job? Sven did better and he went.That's enough rant for one day. I'll go and have a lie down Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:49:45 GMT+1 Robbo Robson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=68#comment111 #107Actually Fergie said he didn't fancy extra time with is first team on the pitch. Rather unnerving that the Old Beetroot was expecting Extra time. And why not have Ronaldo ready on the bench, and Giggs, and Carrick, as he has done in the past when resting players. The pitch did not pick the team, he did, and it was a risk too far. Thank Gawd. Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:48:31 GMT+1 fox_in_the_box http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=68#comment110 "Seriously, how long have the two full-backs been out of the womb?"-----Actually made me laugh out loud. Quality blog Robbo and very true about Wembley. What do the fans sing while they're winning or after they've won the semi?!Que se ra, se ra! Whatever will be, will be! We're going to Wem-ber-lee...again! Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:47:45 GMT+1 PeterD http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=67#comment109 Kasbah - Thanks for that. I thought Fat Frank only started pointing at the heavens after he saw Kaka doing it. Silly me! Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:35:27 GMT+1 United Dreamer http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=67#comment108 "72. At 4:21pm on 20 Apr 2009, Robbo Robson wrote: As for Fergie v Rafa - give em a couple of pillows and a ramp across a vat of piranhas and let em slug it out. "Well we know who will take longer to eat. Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:27:16 GMT+1 Wolvesdotcom http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=66#comment107 Who wants to see another Chelski vs Man U final, well done to Everton, the point of the F.A Cup is that any/every team has a chance. Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:24:43 GMT+1 The Chong http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=65#comment106 Nice try Robbo BUT:Wenger clearly stated he didn't blame the pitch for the defeat and...It isn't the same for both teams. Some teams like to knock the ball around quickly with a slick passing game while others do not, so one team can be more affected.Also Alex F clearly stated that a heavy pitch would lead to his players getting tired while both ManU and Arsenal have an incredibly difficult run in to think about.I thought your blog would be a bit 'deeper' than that, or perhaps you don't really understand football as well as you make out? Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:24:19 GMT+1 NEARPOSTHEADER http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=65#comment105 Is there no-one out there who understands simple economics? Not using Wembley as much as possible is like buying an incredible expensive (David) Bentley, and then leaving it in the garage. Costs have to be recouped, period.Glad a team from out of the top four got to the final - Chelsea will probably win the penalty shoot-out after an excruciatingly boring 120 minutes - Jagielka making a hash of the 5th spot-kick. Would it be possible to strap Felllaini's arms to his sides - he's going to take someone's flamin' eye out! Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:20:37 GMT+1 Unbiased_Pundit http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=64#comment104 What annoyed me was Ferguson's way of implying that the poor pitch affected him more than Moyes by claiming that he was forced to play a bunch of kids, whereas Everton played the best team they had available (save injury). But then he went on to say that United jumped at the chance to give their youngsters a chance, as has been their policy over the years. Well if you're so geared towards helping out the youngsters, Fergie, why are you so willing to risk them all on a supposedly atrocious pitch?It seems pretty clear to me that playing a bunch of kids had nothing whatsoever to do with the pitch, and a lot more to do with the league threat of a resurgent Liverpool. Although I can understand him not admitting to resting his first-teamers, he could at least not lie about his reasons and try to belittle Everton's achievement into the bargain. Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:20:32 GMT+1 stokielloyd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=63#comment103 Well I believe it's going to a Chelsea double now, with Liverpool winning the title. Man Utd are going bottle it against Arsenal And Man CIty and hand the scousers the title... haha Ok i don't even believe that but, that's what im hoping for. A decent blog this week Robbo, room for imporvement though of ones you've previously done :D Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:19:43 GMT+1 One-Henry http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=63#comment102 Mr Bloggo Bobson or Bobby Robson or Robbo Bloggson or in fact whatever you affectionately call yourself, you are supposed to be a respectable journalist by presenting facts and not falsehoods. I know you are supposed to be creatively funny (some call it humour), but surely you can do it without blatant untruths? Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:15:03 GMT+1 Wash http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=62#comment101 You have to say that the Welsh certainly showed our brickies how to do it (on time and within budget).------------------------------ For the record, it was an Aussie company that was responsible for the debacle known as the New Wembley... Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:13:20 GMT+1 richjseymour http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=62#comment100 great blog robbo.i can't understand the decision to have semi finals at wembley. it's a complete devaluation of cup final day. when utd didn't enter the comp in 2000 there was an all mighty row about how the cup was being devalued but because it's an f.a decision nobody dares make any noise about it.shame on all the "fans" for not doing so.wembley for the final Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:06:34 GMT+1 Wash http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=61#comment99 The FA are just trying to re-coup some of the money that they were ripped off by when building the stadium, it's just a shame the playing surface suffers and as a result giving Wenger and SAF more excuses as to why they lost.----------------------------------------------Sorry, but the FA have no-one to blame but themselves. When the contract was put out to tender, all of the recognised construction companies with experience in this field all turned it down on the basis it could not be completed in the timescale required within the budget guidelines set. The only company willing to take it on already had a reputation for going over budget and over time, but the FA refused to listen to the combined wisdom of companies who's success is based on their experience of projects such as these.At the end of the day, the FA can't even seem to run football properly, so what made them think that they knew better than the recognised construction companies when it came to a project of this magnitude? It beggars belief... Mon 20 Apr 2009 18:03:38 GMT+1 kasbah http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=60#comment98 Number 34: "Lampard junior with his vomit inducing double finger point to heaven"With all due respect....but Lampard only started doing that when his MUM DIED. Don't you think it's a little harsh to consider it 'vomit inducing' that he points to heavent when he scores? Mon 20 Apr 2009 17:41:15 GMT+1 mdb500 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=60#comment97 A message to all those annoyed by "Chelsea 4 - 4 Liverpool - Classic"'s comments on this and Phil's blog:Don't feed the trolls. Mon 20 Apr 2009 17:39:43 GMT+1 lorus59 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=59#comment96 Actually now I don't like seeing any matches at Wembley since they decided to use this new lower TV camera position. It takes away the impression of the large Wembley pitch. I was thinking as to why this has happened and came to the conclusion that, they have sold more expensive seats where the TV camera was last year. Mon 20 Apr 2009 17:38:51 GMT+1 Starfire_99 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=59#comment95 Well let's look at Berbatov's form then.At Spurs he must have scored about 50 goals, was a killer combo with Robbie Keane, tormented defences with his trickery, and had White Hart lane giving him the sort of adulation they used to give Klinnsman.He was a big fish in a small pond so to speak and loved the attention.He moves to Utd and he's no longer the center of attention. He's got Tevez, Ronaldo, Rooney, Scholes, Giggs to compete with on the ego front. He's no longer top dog or first name on the team sheet like he was at Spurs and rather than prove himself and force his way onto the team sheet like Darren Bent has for us week in week out, he bumbles about, with a Couldn't-give-a-damn-about-the-team-where's-my-payslip-for-the-week-thankyou-very-much atitude.I think Shevchencko (sp?) may have lost his crown on that front to him now. Mon 20 Apr 2009 17:37:48 GMT+1 kasbah http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=58#comment94 "17. At 1:40pm on 20 Apr 2009, rubertos_08 wrote:Phil Neville said they'd beaten the best team in the world when they hadn't even beaten the best team at Man United. .... funny but you cant argue that by far and away the best part about united has been the centre-back partnership of ferdinand and vidic. who were both playing yesterday"Yep, and Everton couldn't score, suggesting the best part did their job! Mon 20 Apr 2009 17:36:16 GMT+1 kasbah http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=57#comment93 Another problem with having the semi-finals at Wembley as well as the final is that the FA's ticketing structure for the final means that the two clubs involved will have FEWER tickets available than for the semi. That can't be right! At least playing the semi at a smaller stadium means more tickets will be available for the final than the semi, not the other way round.After all Luton could take 40,000 to Wembley for the johnstone paints trophy but Everton and Chelsea can only take 25,000 each.....for a 90,000 seater stadium! Mon 20 Apr 2009 17:35:04 GMT+1 Piresistable http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=57#comment92 Wenger wasn't using the pitch as an excuse. We'd have probably lost had the pitch been decent.The point is that because of the pitch, the two games were very dull as everyone needed to take a touch and as a result slowing the game down.The final will be even worse on May 30th if it's as hot as it can be. Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:52:13 GMT+1 eezy_squeezy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=56#comment91 Godez23 wrso when it rolls in past the keeper he feels like a right pillock"ote:Sunderland fan in peace.I reckon Berba is the reason Man Utd lost, Cahill had just blazed over and you can heap all the pressure on the Blues so what do you do? pick a corner right... WRONG "I'll be a clever d**k and put it down the middle at less than a mile an hour Dimitar Berbatov = the least worthy premiership footballer I have ever seen. Average Distance for a prem player to run in a game is about 10k...Berba maybe just over 3k. Makes me sick._____________________________________________________So, by your rationale, the further someone runs during a match the more "worthy" they are?Berbatov hasn't been a huge success at United (yet), but judging his performance using simplistic and nonsenical criteria is just stupid; ie a player in League Two regularly covers 12-13k a match, so he must be worthy of the Premier League?Absolute tosh.PS - I whole-heartedly agree that Berbatov's penalty was total poo, by the way. Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:49:19 GMT+1 Andyspur37 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=55#comment90 This post has been Removed Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:47:19 GMT+1 The One-Armed Man http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=55#comment89 17. At 1:40pm on 20 Apr 2009, rubertos_08 wrote:Phil Neville said they'd beaten the best team in the world when they hadn't even beaten the best team at Man United. .... funny but you cant argue that by far and away the best part about united has been the centre-back partnership of ferdinand and vidic. who were both playing yesterdayYeah you could argue that. You'd be wrong, but you could argue that. Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:46:27 GMT+1 Andyspur37 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=54#comment88 This post has been Removed Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:38:56 GMT+1 AnalMcAnal http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=54#comment87 I like the way that everyone refers to Robinho as the biggest flop of the season. He may have been disapointing so far, but in his defence:- he cost practically the same as Berbatov- he's done as much, if not more, than Berbatov- he's playing in a much poorer team than Berbatov- he's playing in his first season in England and still adapting (unlike Berbatov) Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:31:19 GMT+1 BigKoko2004 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=53#comment86 Semi's are usually poor but the 2 played over the weekend really took the biscuit. Some of the most inept football to ever grace a major venue. Very glad I will be sunning myself in the tropics when the final is on or I'd probably feel obliged to watch what will inevitably be another dull match.As for the EPL my girlfriend did the BBC predictor and had 'Boro and Newcastle going down with WBA and unfortunately for you Robbo I can't seem to fault her logic. Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:29:32 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=52#comment85 My God!I don't read this for a few weeks, come back and find...I actually agree with Robbo!Not on the football of course, but on the Bono hating.Finally after all these years Robbo you have come out with something sensible; lock Bono in a box and throw away the key.At least you're not Irish like me and have to live on the same island as him (difficult as he has enough trouble fitting his ego on it). Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:28:55 GMT+1 Muesli_used_for_cheese http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=52#comment84 AAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now i'm really angry about Berbatov. It was almost like he intended to miss it. PUC! Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:22:42 GMT+1 Muesli_used_for_cheese http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=51#comment83 Agree on the lazy Berbatov rant. Utter waste of human flesh. Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:17:45 GMT+1 JR http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=50#comment82 I have to say, I agree with Robbo and his Old Man tradition, Wembley should be used for the final. I know they have it contracted to host semis for the next 30 years to pay off the cost of the darn thing [no joke, unfortunately], but it does take some of the shine off the 'reaching Wembley' thing.Also, I know holding it in London means most United fans had less of a distance to travel to watch them play [ba-dum tish], but they could have held it somewhere closer, couldn't they? Anfield was free that day, and neither United or Everton like the place, so why not there? Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:14:15 GMT+1 Bournemouthy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=50#comment81 Why are people having a go at Robbo for not getting his facts right.. facts should never get in the way of a good rant!!!Be a bit dull otherwise Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:13:45 GMT+1 Godez23 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=49#comment80 Sunderland fan in peace.I reckon Berba is the reason Man Utd lost, Cahill had just blazed over and you can heap all the pressure on the Blues so what do you do? pick a corner right... WRONG "I'll be a clever d**k and put it down the middle at less than a mile an hour so when it rolls in past the keeper he feels like a right pillock"Dimitar Berbatov = the least worthy premiership footballer I have ever seen. Average Distance for a prem player to run in a game is about 10k...Berba maybe just over 3k. Makes me sick. Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:10:48 GMT+1 DenistheGenius http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=49#comment79 re67: good call on Wenger's "Fire Dance"...that is truly a classic - looks like he's shaking light sticks onstage with the cast of "Cats"!no idea why he would omit Nasri & Arshavin - he's clearly out-thought himself there, and apparently it showed in the performance. Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:10:30 GMT+1 chelsearule83 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=48#comment78 Love the blog Robbo, i read it every week and it never fails to make me smile!! However to all you people who post the same things as each other every week i have just one thing to say - try reading the comments BEFORE you make any. It gets so very dull reading the same criticism time after time. Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:04:31 GMT+1 Muesli_used_for_cheese http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=47#comment77 I don't think Ferguson or Wenger blamed the pitch for their sides losing. But the pitch had a huge affect on the two games. Both games were an appalling spectacle. Friends of mine went to the Chelsea v Aresenal game and had nothing positive to say about the game. All they could say was "at least i've been to the "new" Wembley". Great. I miss the days of Villa park. Why don't they just use Wembley for concerts and Monster trucks? Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:02:59 GMT+1 littlejklc http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=47#comment76 I think Everton do deserve to be in the final and I do hope them win. But if the other final team is Arsenal, it will be better. Moyes shows some class yesterday. Wenger probably should learn something from him. He did admit it should have been a penalty instead of saying I didn't see it. Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:02:14 GMT+1 Theo Logical http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=46#comment75 Robbo, it is fair to say that this is my first ever negative comment on your articles. I am fed up with your cheap pops at Wenger. So far I have tolerated them. But this is just a step too far. WHY were his comments a whinge? Did he not say clearly that it was not the reason for his team's loss? Why can't you just admit you are wrong in calling them a whinge and go on with your business? It is manly to accept one's mistake. Don't try to wiggle out of it by saying Fergie's whinge was worse than Wenger's. ~~~~~~Fergie's whingeing seems worse than Arsene's.~~~~~~ Mon 20 Apr 2009 16:01:40 GMT+1 SportsFan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=45#comment74 Terrible BlogWenger never blamed the pitch for the match, just pointing out quite rightly it isn't fit as a national football team pitch.Fabio Capello, Slaven Bilic, the Australian Rugby team and now Fergie and also Moyes (who won, obviously) have all criticised it. I know Wenger the Whinger is an easy stereotype to trot out but come on Robbo, you can better than this drivel.And secondly, OF COURSE playing semi-finals, racing events and NFL at Wenbley is about money. Are you really that naive? Obviously we'd all prefer the semis to be at neutral venues but £750m is a lot of money to pay back! I can't believe people are even still talking about this. Mon 20 Apr 2009 15:52:27 GMT+1 lightedcigarettes http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=45#comment73 In Reply to 21:The offender himself admitted he was lucky with the penalty decision and here u are claiming otherwise?? But again you should know it better than the player himself, shouldn't you? Mon 20 Apr 2009 15:43:38 GMT+1 Xavierneville http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=44#comment72 Robbo,You've read my entries from McNulty's blog and truned them into yours.....shame on you!From underdogs to favourites in an hour before kick off, genius by Ferguson and it nearly worked, the Everton team must of gone eh?They got cuaght in be twixt and between, the result total dourness, this is coming from a die hard toffee!A severe lack of bravery on Everton's part, but do I care...not one jot semi finals are about winning any team who's been in one can atest to that. Mon 20 Apr 2009 15:27:26 GMT+1 Robbo Robson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=44#comment71 As for Fergie v Rafa - give em a couple of pillows and a ramp across a vat of piranhas and let em slug it out. Mon 20 Apr 2009 15:21:54 GMT+1 Robbo Robson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=43#comment70 All right, Gooners!!!! 40 posts ago I acknowldeged Mr. Wenger's declining to blame the pitch!(SEE BELOW)To be fair, Fergie blamed his selection on the quality of the turf. Think he's muddling himself in his old age with his horse racing interests. Bless.28. At 1:59pm on 20 Apr 2009, Robbo Robson wrote: All right, irate gooners, Wenger was moaning about the pitch before and after (and almost certainly during) the game. And yes he blamed the keeper not the groundsman on his team's defeat. Not sure how jelpful it is to bang on about the surface beforehand but it's true to say that on this occasion Fergie's whingeing seems worse than Arsene's. Mon 20 Apr 2009 15:20:30 GMT+1 PeterD http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=42#comment69 Never mind the pitch at Wembley, can someone explain why we need a 'National Stadium' at all? The 'National' side should be made available to the nation and not play all its home matches in the bottom right hand corner of the country ( you know like when they were building the new stadium). The only possible reason for this is to save the great and the good of the FA (lol) having to slum it north of Watford 'cos at least if they came up here the team would get proper support and not have to put up with the corporate hospitality brigade not bothering with most of the second half.Someone mentioned about Bernie Ecclestone using a tarmacced (is that how you spell it?) Wembley for the GP. Well tough! As I understand it we're keeping that one out of the southeast of England!P.S. Does Fergie realise thereis only Big Sam and him who think Raffa was being nasty in telling Torres to go easy on Blackburn. All he was saying was 'Just keep it to 4. We don't want to demoralise them too much and it's much cheaper taking the team to Blackburn than the northeast and when RBS pull the rug from under the Yanks we'll need to save as much money as possible if I'm going to sign David Villa!' Mon 20 Apr 2009 15:20:01 GMT+1 DenistheGenius http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=42#comment68 ok, ok - everyone lay off Robbinho - he's held up his hand (sort of) over his clumsy Wenger rant...perhaps he shouldn't wear the "grey brassiere" while blogging - it can cause abject Bendtnering.semis @ Wembley are quite stupid, to be fair. Mon 20 Apr 2009 15:14:10 GMT+1 bourghgate http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=41#comment67 "I DON'T THINK WE LOST BECUASE OF THE PITCH," said Wenger. "But it is really embarrassing. When you see how much this stadium has cost and you still can't get a proper football pitch. Somebody must give an explanation."now this quote is from bbc football website. WHY O WHY are there so many ignorant small minded so called football fans who cant get to grips that wenger (or ferge) never used pitch as an excuse- along with david moyes they all agree the pitch is a shambles and is degrading the world famous fa cup. Robo, usually like your blogs but you gotta hold your hands up at your mistake here. Mon 20 Apr 2009 15:08:11 GMT+1 gunner_spain http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=40#comment66 Without doubt the most boring semis in history. Confirmed by supporters of ALL teams here in our local. Both AW and SAF got their selections sooo wrong. Nasri has been outstanding this year and Arshavin a breath of talented fresh air. How could he not start either or both ? Should have had the courage to play to our strengths and let Chelski worry about us. Fabianski and Denilson both had a woeful afternoon. SAF obviously thought it was a foregone conclusion that they would win. Lovely to see his Rumplestilkin impression though - although not quite up to AW's Fire Dance ! Mon 20 Apr 2009 15:07:42 GMT+1 United Dreamer http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=40#comment65 "In fact Sir Alex has said the pitch picked his team for him... which rather suggests there was a miserable sod in charge on Sunday"Heh - even I can admit that was a little clever on your part despite being a sworn disciple of the gaffer.Well done to Everton. They deserved it - their fans were a credit to the club - very vocal and Everton played hard. Nevertheless it was a stonewall penalty decision not given but tbh no guarantee we would have scored given our performance in the shootout. Although Tevez would have probably taken it seeing as the hopeless Berby doll (0 out of 10 what a shower) wasn't on yet so that would have increased our chances.Re Wenger, I have to say its never a good idea to comment on the state of a pitch before the match as it gives the wrong signals to your players and the opposition. Mon 20 Apr 2009 15:07:15 GMT+1 Spitfire http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=39#comment64 Guessing from the comments, Robbo might blame the dip in quality of his recent blogs to the uneven surface of bar in Bluebells! Mon 20 Apr 2009 15:03:10 GMT+1 Notorious Enigmatic Red Devil AKA Wookiee http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=39#comment63 Robbo, very funny again as always, but when did Fergy or the Professor actually blame the pitch you numpty? If you actually saw his interview he was actually quite philosophical about the whole thing, something McNulty has even stated in his blog.Our kids were great against a well oiled Everton side and just shaded it over the game for me, shame it had to go to peno's!But good luck to Everton, they held their nerves on the peno's and I will be cheering them on in the final. Mon 20 Apr 2009 14:58:57 GMT+1 excellentcatblogger http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=38#comment62 If the grass pitch is going to be taken up every so often and replaced with tarmac etc, would it not be better to give up on grass and lay astroturf? The Sunday Times mentioned that some rugby players had been injured due to the spongy surface and were considering a lawsuit. Considering the cost of the stadium, you would have thought that the design of the stadium would also cater for sufficient light to enable the grass to grow properly. After all the Emirates stadium has conquered this problem, or is it simply the case that the authorities know F all about football pitches? Mon 20 Apr 2009 14:55:29 GMT+1 jasmanio http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/04/pitch_imperfect.html?page=37#comment61 Surely these comments should scroll down from the most recent first. Just a thought.Anyway, delighted for Everton. Certainly not a classic, but played in the right spirit and both sets of fans were class before and after the game around the stadium.I really think Moyes is a top drawer manager and the Toffees have a real chance of winning the final if only because of their team spirit and togetherness. I think Sir Alex will be rooting for the Blues if only so Everton have something to show for Moyes' tenure before Man Utd rob him off us!! Mon 20 Apr 2009 14:52:56 GMT+1