Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html en-gb 30 Fri 11 Jul 2014 17:15:38 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html roversince1938 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=99#comment214 Ronaldo, without doubt, was trying to repeat the 'hand of god'. Trouble is, he hasn't the despicable skills of the Argentine superstar. Mind you he has plenty of his own - mostly learned, I think, at a swimming pool. Mon 08 Dec 2008 14:28:10 GMT+1 clearcheesecake http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=99#comment213 Ronaldo had the best year of anyone in the world thats why he won, there may be equally as good players in teh world but they didn't prove it. Ashley young came close. Mon 08 Dec 2008 14:12:04 GMT+1 I dont want a display name http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=98#comment212 What a moronic assessment of Ronaldo's handball.Why would he have put up both hands and deflected the ball away from the goal? What possible advantage could he be hoping for, when it would have been far easier, as he had a clear header, to have scored.Quite obviously, for whatever reason, he wrongly thought that the ball was already dead.If the ball HAD been dead and he had headed into the goal what would have happened?A second yellow card and a sending off.I can't understand why you wrote up the incident in the way that you did unless you believe that your readers are morons who can't see the obvious and are trying to appeal to their baser instincts. Sun 07 Dec 2008 19:00:47 GMT+1 Joe http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=98#comment211 Robbo - all your blogs are funny but this was the most amusing one to date. Nice balance as you were bruising without being too cutting. Also, thanks for clearing up the 'smogland' comment. The last time I was in your neck of the woods was 25 years ago and it looked ok then.Critics - not much point having a go at Robbo. If you don't think he is funny then don't read his blog. The more comments that are posted the more likely the BBC is going to keep on paying him to do this. Your opinion counts as much as anyone else's but calling him a 'goon' is not very eloquent or informative. If you want to take the mickey out of him then try and be as funny as he is when doing so.Ronaldo - deserved the award and also deserved to get a yellow card for deliberate handball. Simple. Rant on as much as you want but the judges and and the referee both got it right. Comparisons - all pointless. All you can do is compare CR to the footballers who are playing at the same time when it comes to judging him. Also, all those people having a go at CR would certainly be doing a Fergie if he suddenly joined their team! I will always dislike him but I would want him in my team.169 Judie Rudie - no idea if you are a lass but without wishing to sound sexist you made more sense than just about everyone else. I don't like CR, Sir AF or the fact that Man. U. are just too self-important but they are all top quality in the football world. Their record speaks them and personal feelings are somewhat irrelevent. I always want the lesser teams to beat them (rarely happens) but I still enjoy watching them play.Logic - seems to have gone out of the window based on most of the above posts.Cheers, Joe. Sat 06 Dec 2008 10:24:14 GMT+1 A wet windy night in Stoke http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=97#comment210 C'mon Robbo, isn't it obvious?After a Certain Argentines visit to our fair shores recently Ronaldo realised that despite being the best footballer the permiership has ever seen, to achieve true football immortality he has to demonstrate the 'hand of god'.________________________________Fun reading this. I must say that Ron's attempt at the 'hand of god' was done very poorly indeed. Ronaldo is a good player but I doubt that he will turn out to be exceptional, that he will lead his country to be world and European champions. He plays for a big club so being the best there makes he look exceptionally good. Compared to Maradona? Not even close. Writers have in the last 20 years compared every promising player to Maradona just because everyone want to see an icon, a genius in their lifetime - to have that privilege.. I am old enough to have seen him play. Maradona is a genetic freak. By design or chance, he was put together to play football. It will take a long, long time before another such freak happens. Fri 05 Dec 2008 22:10:01 GMT+1 bnzss http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=97#comment209 199... ripped Chelsea a new one? Good in the semi finals? What are you on about? THe man just doesn't turn up for big games Fri 05 Dec 2008 21:47:04 GMT+1 U13691428 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=96#comment208 that last one has got to be banned. Ah i don't really mean it. You are my hero Robbo Fri 05 Dec 2008 21:29:35 GMT+1 U13691428 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=96#comment207 I wish you well Robbo but equally i wish you an untimely death Fri 05 Dec 2008 20:43:58 GMT+1 U13691428 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=95#comment206 Robbo..................You are a goon Fri 05 Dec 2008 20:17:57 GMT+1 dyrewolfe http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=95#comment205 163. At 09:20am on 04 Dec 2008, Peanut1875 wrote:"Robbo i mean come on it's embarrassing how poor your comedy skills are, if you were that funny you'd be starring in have i got news for you or some other BBC quizshow rather than writing a blog not too many people read or are impressed with."Over 200 replies...plenty of which state their liking for Robbo's blogs? No - no many readers or fans there. Numpty!And of course, you're SO much wittier, aren't you? Fri 05 Dec 2008 17:11:46 GMT+1 Wayne http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=94#comment204 the gomes joke was well funny! Fri 05 Dec 2008 16:35:30 GMT+1 divealdo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=94#comment203 Seem to remember a Boro game a couple of years back, (can't remember who against but maybe Robbo can). The ball was kicked hard into George Boatengs face, from about 6 feet and within the penalty area. He did the instinctive thing and put his hands up to protect himself. His reward was a straight red and a sending off as well as conceding a penalty. We lost the game. It happens, get over it.No sympathy here for the Gelled Tumbler! Fri 05 Dec 2008 13:05:00 GMT+1 AilaFS http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=93#comment202 For once Robbo, you had me falling off my chair with laughter. At least with the 1st half of your article. Ronaldo has skills and granted he does deserve the award, but his antics over the weekend reminded me of when the girls used to run from the ball in high school or block their faces, scream and run in the other direction:P Fri 05 Dec 2008 11:29:33 GMT+1 ThePaniniBandit http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=93#comment201 Is Seaton Carew, John's brother?And when did he join 'Boro? Fri 05 Dec 2008 11:21:42 GMT+1 kennshady http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=93#comment200 Great blog Robbo but you know what i thought you'll say about that Van Persie's goal? Last season at the same game at Stamford Bridge Didier Drogba scored Chelsea's equalizer after clearly coming from an offside position. The glorious Wenger didn't go to town calling for the ref's apology. Fri 05 Dec 2008 09:37:49 GMT+1 gooner4eva1982 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=92#comment199 Minus 1 small ability, the ability to defend Ronaldo is indeed the best footballer on the planet!!!As for the sending off, comment 13 i to believe that I heard a whistle and as my wife'll tell you my hearing aint great robbo. I think it was a kneejurk reaction, we've all done it! Those of you that support utd unlucky you're without your best player for a few games. Sunderland supporters you're lucky they might only score a few goals.comment 26 we know you said "apart from goals" we're just simply pointing out that goals are the single most important part of football. Ronaldo was involved in 42% of Utd's goals last season. without his contrabution utd would have finished with the second worst goal differance (Derby with 11)Ronaldo at his best is a joy to watch.... Thu 04 Dec 2008 18:29:14 GMT+1 The Trawler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=92#comment198 198the majority of every player's goals are against poor opposition you odd ballRonaldo tore chelsea a new one in ther first half of the European Cup finalhe more than played his part in the semi-final victory over Barcelona as well - a true team effortand he scored against every single team that played in the English top league last season apart from City (he scored the goal that won the league against them the previous season)he was also the top scorer in England and equalled Shearer's premiership record of 32 goals if memeory serves. on top of that he was the CL top scorer, and the golden boot winner in England and in Europe.seems a bit silly to say he isn't the best player in Europe really, doesn't it - ycnmiu! Thu 04 Dec 2008 18:27:20 GMT+1 bnzss http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=91#comment197 89:'You don't watch much football do you? You obviously missed last season's CL Final (The biggest club game in the world)You might want to check out his goals and assist record against Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool too.Some people are just sheep......'Yeah he got the goal but he was awful in the semi finals and his overall performance in the final wasn't great. ANd he missed that penalty.Furthermore to the best of my knowledge he's only scored once against chelsea and never against liverpool... but these stats are a few months old. The majority of his goals are against poor clubs and I was talking about his overall performance.I'm not denying he's a good player, but not the best in the world and certainly not the best ever in the EPL Thu 04 Dec 2008 18:09:41 GMT+1 Armchair Dave http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=91#comment196 @sheeptest (50)Thanks for researching The Fonz thing. I was going to watch every episode of Happy Days but you've saved me the trouble.Sorry about the rather poor joke!As punishment I think Ronaldo should be forced to wear a wig for the next 3 games rather than get banned for a Carling Cup game. And if they get to play Hull City, he can have a wigg-off with the manager. Thu 04 Dec 2008 16:33:35 GMT+1 CarrowSparrow http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=90#comment195 A very good blog indeed.Personally I can't stand Ronaldo, although I can't deny his quality on the pitch.If he just sorted out his diving, his sportsmanship and his attitude then he would be more respected.I find his arrogance infuriating. He is a very very poor role model. But in footballing terms he does the job for Manchester United. If he was a bad player, nobody would want to even know him. Thu 04 Dec 2008 15:21:15 GMT+1 Keano's Magic Hat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=90#comment194 There was no need for Fergie's excuses, I wish he had just said, "the boy made a mistake, an error in judgement"...That's all it was, and everyone could have moved on. Instead, Fergie makes up some nonsensical excuses and the Ronaldo-haters club get their knickers in a twist.As a United fan, we can't complain. He cost us some £12m? He was magnificent last season, is our top scorer this season (despite missing the first 2 months or so) and if anything, it just proves that he is infact human and not some highly advanced footballing cyborg. Thu 04 Dec 2008 15:05:31 GMT+1 Mac http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=89#comment193 so, to summarise...It shouldn't have been a yellow card as he clearly wasn't trying to score was he?Was he pushed? dunno, I haven't got the video here to look at, but if he was pushed, putting your hands out in front is a natural reaction... although if that still applies once your in the air I'm not sure... I think we need a 'Pheonix from the flames' type recreation to sort this out!... Frank?Robbo can be Ronnie, oh that's no good, he's a good looking lad!Good work mate, always a joy to read... Thu 04 Dec 2008 14:55:07 GMT+1 jono1983 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=89#comment192 "up came the hands in a way Heurelho Gomes can only dream of. "ha ha ha ha ha ha, quality! Thu 04 Dec 2008 14:28:13 GMT+1 amilAO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=88#comment191 Spot on about Scolari and the offside - he didn't whinge/moan/do a Wenger, he just stated the obvious, it was clearly offside and he'd like an apology. He'll have that dignity with him unlike SAF and AW and of course the delectable José Thu 04 Dec 2008 14:24:00 GMT+1 TaconazoRedondo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=88#comment190 cactus99 - 187 You reckon an Olympic Gold is as prestigious as the Champion's League or European Championships for a footballer? Then ask me if it 'counts'... Thu 04 Dec 2008 14:02:11 GMT+1 King-Dion http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=87#comment189 Another hugely entertaining blog. Ronaldo's just as big a prima-donna as Bergkamp. Clever players - yes. But Big Girls Blouses when it comes to a smidgeon of contact. Thu 04 Dec 2008 14:01:45 GMT+1 The Trawler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=87#comment188 i love this idea that Ronaldo goes to ground every time a defender touches himit makes me laugh out loud in facti've never heard such utter nonsense Ronaldo gets fouled near enough every time he gets a challengeif he couldn't ride fouls he would never score so many goals i have no idea why so many non-United fans are so interested in the reaction to or reasons for his red card at Citehwhy on earth would you even vaguely care?now if it had been a two-footed jump tackle as performed by Terry at the weekend, then i could maybe understand a bit of a debate. although funnily enough he didn't get sent off, did he Thu 04 Dec 2008 13:29:32 GMT+1 gringo Loco http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=86#comment187 How did my last blog 187 go straight in?? Thu 04 Dec 2008 13:27:35 GMT+1 gringo Loco http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=86#comment186 169 Was he at Euro 2008?? If he was, I don't remeber him being outstanding.How many tackles does he ride? ZEROYou're just a one eyed United fan.176 Every one of the top 5 players in the Ballon d'Or list had won something that season to merit inclusion, with the exception of Messi.Doesn't an Olympic GOLD count for anything???? Thu 04 Dec 2008 13:25:19 GMT+1 filao dot org http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=86#comment185 The best Prem player I've seen ever (and I got into footy when the prem started) has to be Schemichel.Great blog as always. Thu 04 Dec 2008 13:24:51 GMT+1 gringo Loco http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=85#comment184 One of the best everIt's a contradiction in bleeding terms, isn't it? Like US intelligence and mature student.I laughed so much, I nearly wet myself.Ronaldo is a plank. Last week he had bionic earing next time, when he plays on after the whistle, he'll be stone deaf. There was no other recourse for the ref but a 2nd yellow. He should have had a 2nd yellow for the sarcastic applause of the ref. Doesn't the respect thing apply to footballers?But how can you respect a referee when at least one of them can't count to 2?If he was nudged, how come, like his total history shows, he didn't end up on the deck claiming a penalty.His mental block was because he was dreaming of Real Madrid, and that is why he is just ordinary, this season. Last season he was best in the world.Use his head? Deeer my brain hurts. There hasn't been an educated footballer since Steve Hyway.There's no doubt Ronaldo is an extremely gifted fottballer, but a gelled tumbler, he definitely is.No 35 It was Ricardo Carvalho who got his dangly bits stamped on by Rooney. Had it been the gelled tumbler, he would have been stretchered off to hospital.Yes, Fergy supported Ropnaldo in public, but I bet he got the hairdryer in private.65 Are you Robbo in dragI mean, what kind of all-loving deity would give that much talent to such a git?Can you see Ronnie Harris, Norman Hunter or Jackie Charlton in pink boots. Jackie was actually scared of Nobby, so he said at a gala do in Sheffield.132 niceYou can contrast this, if you are as old as me you can anyway, with the attitude to a former Man U European footballer of the year called Best. It didn't matter what team you supported you still loved George, for his skill with the ball, his determination to play for the team, and his polite charm when off the field.Don't forget his Miss Worlds. Thu 04 Dec 2008 13:02:27 GMT+1 CultofHandsome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=85#comment183 180 - You have right to say that Ronaldo is a prat because lets face it he is, I just find it self-degrading when someone continuously calls him a prat and makes loose statements throughout to attack the character of the person. It's pointless, why spend your time doing it. I'm just, as always, a bit shocked someone doesn't have something better to do with their time.And yes, my one comment was vaguely insulting but it wasn't a persistent attempt to demean someone else or to make hints throughout to someone's lack of character/personality/honesty. There's a clear difference. Thu 04 Dec 2008 12:52:03 GMT+1 The Trawler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=84#comment182 168 hairingtonsooh get you big boyyou appear to be making rather a lot of assumptions about me considering you haven't got a clue who i am or where i'm fromand don't worry about your empty seats, i'm sure they'll all be full of people booing Ronaldo when United come back to townand you can spend 90 minutes singing "shall we sing a song for you" at OT at Xmas, tooi'm looking forward to it already :yawn: Thu 04 Dec 2008 12:46:28 GMT+1 tarquin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=84#comment181 175 lesolivesfriendWhat no one has said is that C.R.'s first booking was ridiculous---probably because it wasn'tWhile we're doing 'what no-one has said's: I also can't believe Lawro (not 100% sure it was him, but it was MOTD) thought he had never been sent off - he was sent off at city 2 years ago! and against portmouth for a headbutt last year Thu 04 Dec 2008 12:34:57 GMT+1 Samwell2804 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=83#comment180 #170 - tarquin I totally agree as I pointed out in the middle of my blog, "there have been plenty of occasions before and there will be plenty of occasions to come, where the winner of the trophy was not necessarily the best player at the time, think about it, surely Henry deserved to win it at some stage when he was at the top of his game and untouchable, "I also believe that Gerrard should of undoubtedly have won the award on the basis of virtually singlehandedly dragging Liverpool to champs league victory as should of van Nistelrooy got a bigger chance for the award for his 44 goals, he was almost unstoppable infront of goal at that time.But I am like you, im a massive advocate of the team players, like u mentioned the likes of Ferdinand, Giggs, Rooney, Vidic etc. cause as u say without these players the flair boys wouldnt be able to strut their stuff.Afterall who is probably one of the most unsung heros in football whos work went un-noticed for years........ Makelele?! He was let go by Real cause they didnt realise his worth to the team & the job he did, then how long did they search for a replacemnt to no avail, they went on the downwardspiral after that and startd to losse games because they did not have his workrate, industry and protection of the back four and breaking up opposition attacks?!surely a player like that deserves praise of awards.at the end of the day he went to chelsea and did the same thing.....thus.......inventing the "Makelele Role" Thu 04 Dec 2008 12:24:35 GMT+1 Sir Blogalot http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=83#comment179 Post 179 - my goodness, which self-righteous rock did you just come from under? People in the public eye (like Cronaldo) have their character and behaviour examined as a matter of routine, and when they are found wanting, the British public and press rarely fail to say exactly what they think. And ironically, while you say you won't criticise Robbo for criticising another human being, you then say it is because you won't sink so low...which is a rather obvious criticism of Robbo....so you did sink that low really!Another thing that has amused me is the number of Man U supporters who so readily attribute criticisms of their manager or players as jealousy or from "Man U haters". Sorry, yes, how silly of me, SAF is a god, infallible. Cronaldo is a wonderful guy, not at all immature, not petulant, not someone who routinely feigns injury or uses as many theatrics as a pantomime dame. How dare anyone think otherwise or voice such an opinion!He is a very very good footballer, but he acts like a prat. That's my opinion and I have a right to express it I am glad to say. Thu 04 Dec 2008 12:22:49 GMT+1 CultofHandsome http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=82#comment178 I have to say my opinion of this blog has plummeted and I've lost almost all of the respect I had by default.What made you get up in the morning and think 'I know what, I'll insult Ronaldo for the majority of my blog about pointless insignificant character traits'? I see little value in the whole thing and it's just a little tasteless; I could do the same by criticising you but guess what? I don't feel the compulsion to sink that low - again I reiterate what makes someone feel the need to insult another human being persistently for no reason? Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:54:54 GMT+1 alijay034 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=82#comment177 Robbo you pitiful excuse of a blogger, try listening to the corner sequence again and when the horn blows underneath that sound is a whistle, oh before anyone starts saying I am a Manc fan, wrong, I have supoprted the Gooners for more years than I care to remember, but there is a whistle underneath the sound of the horn. Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:46:47 GMT+1 laskeyst http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=81#comment176 One last word on the Arsenal offside goal: yes, RVP should have been flagged, and no one wants games decided by bad decisions. But let it not be forgotten that the same player had a perfectly good goal ruled out against Chelsea in December 2005, one which would have given Arsenal the lead. Let it neither be forgotten that Chelsea's equalisers against Arsenal in the Carling Cup final of 2007 and the crucial league game at Stamford Bridge in March earlier this year should both have been disallowed for offside too. Mr Scolari has no reason to recall these incidents, but surely Messrs Lampard & Terry could have whispered something in their coach's ear about swings and roundabouts. Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:37:22 GMT+1 TaconazoRedondo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=81#comment175 Bottom line: Ronaldo IS a plank. No point all you s-s-s-sensitive Man U fans getting all protective over the Brylcreemed Boy Wonder - he had a mare against City, falling into an increasingly common trap of being so self-absorbed he loses sight of the game itself. He is a great player - 2-footed, 6ft-odds, great with the ball at his feet, great in the air etc. But can he ever be a Zico? A Platini? What sets some of these legends apart is their footballing BRAIN... the vision, ability to see the through ball, to dictate the game etc. That's why I prefer the likes of Messi. Every one of the top 5 players in the Ballon d'Or list had won something that season to merit inclusion, with the exception of Messi. He was there simply because of his ability. Small, some say he's one footed, retiring... but I bet Alex Ferguson would swap Ronaldo for him in a heartbeat. Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:27:26 GMT+1 Lesolivesfriend http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=80#comment174 Well, Robbo is completely biased, so this blog is what it is . . . What no one has said is that C.R.'s first booking was ridiculous - a very inocuous tackle at best (or worst), but Utd are well-used to insane decisions.Big Phil was right to get into a flap over Arsenal's equaliser. Swings and roundabouts, mind you - look at Chelsea vs Man Utd last April, the only person there to see a penalty was the linesman, NO ONE else! OOPS, another insane decision against Man U? But you're right, let's not go there.No worries, makes winning so much sweeter! Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:23:28 GMT+1 chexpat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=80#comment173 A complete aside this but I remember watching the 1966 world cup final (on black & white telly) and, just before the end of the game there was a whistle - presumably from someone in the crowd. A lot of players stopped at that point ("some of the players are sitting down on the pitch - they think it's all over") but Geoff Hurst obviously didn't as he ran on and walloped England's fourth goal in ("it is now").There was definitely a whistle, yer honour ... Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:12:13 GMT+1 Hotchkii http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=80#comment172 What a brilliant article. I am a United fan.....a real one, yes from Manchester! Ronaldo fully warranted his award and fully warrants a shed load of abuse for clearly protecting his face knowing the award was coming the day after! Can you imagine Bobby Charlton doing that the day before his??..... me either! I know Fergie has to support him but I'm a wee bit tired of the lad being able to do no wrong. He should have stuck his head on the ball and killed the game off, he should be told.....show him Steve Bruce, look at that nose, now thats commitment! Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:08:52 GMT+1 Born_Again http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=79#comment171 And enough of this horn sounding nonsense. Happens all the time. It's not a cue for you to magic yourself into the opposition 'keeper.Only if the keeper is Gomes judging by the "catch" Thu 04 Dec 2008 10:56:11 GMT+1 Kevin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=79#comment170 Instead of constantly knocking players for tiny little indiscretions (he handled the ball in a moment of madness - so WHAT? He didn't insult Manuel on a radio show, dance badly on a TV show or poke someone's eye out!) we should be thankful that the Premier League has so many fantastic players at this moment in time:Ronaldo, Tevez, Nani, Park, Giggs, Scholes, Berbatov, Rooney, Anderson, Fletcher, Ferdinand, Evra, Vidic and - oh yes, the likes of Gerrard, Lampard and Robinho as well.Best league in the word by a mile!C H A M P I O N S ! Thu 04 Dec 2008 10:55:29 GMT+1 tarquin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=78#comment169 164 SamWell2804I agree based on typical criteria Ronaldo was the inevitable choice for the golden ball, he is the best individual player on united's teamsheet - he has great skill with the ballBut let's be honest, he would be nothing without such a strong team - what I particularly dislike is that the players with the silkiest skills are given the most respect, fact is without Vidic and Ferdinand, United would struggle, likewise without their highly skilled midfield, like Rooney, Giggs and co they wouldn't be so dominantI'm not disagreeing that he is very talented, he is - but merely that if you dropped him into Bolton or West Ham tomorrow he probably wouldn't lead them to league and european victory (assuming they qualified) - and I get a little fed up with all the accolades missing the solid bases of teams - but that is the fundamental problem with awarding a 'footballer of the year' in what is a team gameI would however question your logic behind it - 42 goals is very high - but van Nistelrooy never got the award for his 44, and Ronaldo was not playing as a midfielder as many like to claim - he is often regarded as a forward in several categories and received some excellent service for those goals, and last year only got 7 assists - compared to about 17 for the 07 season, clearly he was playing up in front of goal a bit more - he's a great striker, and I certainly don't take that away from him, but that's his main function and I've always felt he gets all the glory for being the spearhead for what is a team effort Also when Gerrard pretty much dragged Liverpool to CL victory the award went to Ronaldhinoand as sirblogalot points out - he is still incredibly immature and doesn't have a good attitude, and yet is rewarded for it - look at last week, he thinks he's above the law - I agree Henry should have been given such an award in his time (NOT an arsenal fan), and he had much more maturity (although he was known for his arrogance, but he was french) - it just further highlights the flaws in awarding such a prizeBut this award is almost always about recognising who can dribble the best and score the most - and so is mostly going to be between torres, messi and him in the near future - on that grounds he shouldve won it, but I take it with a pinch of salt Thu 04 Dec 2008 10:47:40 GMT+1 Nick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=78#comment168 Blimey some of the comments verge on the ridiculous never mind downright factually incorrect.Ronaldo will serve a one match ban as he received 2 yellows not a straight red.Deliberate Handball is not a mandatory yellow, the ref is allowed to use his discretion.Did United gain advantage from Ronaldos actions? No. Did it disadavantage City? NoBut rather bizarrely the ref gave a corner after booking Ronny when it should have been a City free kick!Finally lets stop looking at players like Bergkamp etc through misty glasses.Yes he was a very talented player but he was also up there with the best of them for petulance and exactly how many "big" games did he influence for Arsenal?Ronaldo has scored in 3 cup finals, was undoubtably the best young player at the 2006 World Cup, he was outstanding for Portugal at Euro 2004 and in 2007 and 2008 won games single handedly for United to keep them in the title race.You United haters cant have it both ways. When Ronaldo is injured/suspended we're told United will struggle, then when he's bacj we're told he never performs in the "big" matches!By the way does he go down that easily any more? I dont think so, bear in mind when he goes past a defender it is usually at pace so any fall will be exaggerated and how many times does he now ride tackles?He goes down no more easily than Gerrard who is supposed to be a midfield general not a fancy dan winger!As for those critisising his charachter or him as a person , Why? How many of you actually know him or have spent time in his company? Why does he need to grow up?Jealousy plain and simple, thats all it is. Thu 04 Dec 2008 10:38:31 GMT+1 hairingtons http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=77#comment167 "well fair enough some of you follow the likes of Middlesborough" (rotterdam 143)That's right ignoramus, some of us actually follow the club that represents the place we are from.Grow up, get a life, stop substituing the void in your pathetic existence with the success of a football team. Support a team for a reason. Not glory.We'll keep our plastic seats, you keep your plastic fans. Thu 04 Dec 2008 10:21:15 GMT+1 thefartedone http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=77#comment166 i used to enjoyr ur article and its funny side but not this time robbo! it does not give the same impacts as ur previous one's.. better luck next time Bro!and yeah i Love to see chelsea getting beated at home ! congrats to scolari for making them beatbale !! Thu 04 Dec 2008 10:08:53 GMT+1 SuperStrikerShivam http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=76#comment165 Cristiano Ronaldo. Thu 04 Dec 2008 10:07:39 GMT+1 Sir Blogalot http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=76#comment164 I'm not a regular reader of this blog, and when I have read it I haven't found it that funny, but this one did have me in stitches a few times! On the Cronaldo debate, without doubt he is a very talented footballer and you only have to watch footage of him from 3 or 4 years ago to see how he has progressed and matured in just about every way. The only way he hasn't progressed it seems is his actual maturity - he is petulant, shows little respect to referees, appeals for a free kick if an opposing player comes within a yard of him, is arrogant enought to be an American boxer, and of course, his favourite party piece, he throws himself to the floor theatrically so often and rolls around like he has been shot with a bazooka in an effort to con the ref into thinking he has been fouled and is injured. Perfect example of the ridiculous little twerp doing that is the perfectly fair but strong tackle Phil Neville of Everton made on him a few weeks ago. I will gladly recognise his footballing talents, but please don't expect me to respect him or think of him as a mature adult. Most footballers don't merit that description probably, but Cronaldo is the worst in my view. He isn't even man enough or humble enough to just admit he messed up - he has to make up some ridiculous fairy tale about hearing a whistle! Get a life boy! He makes himself an easy target for criticism through his diving, and although Man U fans love to believe he gets criticism purely for playing for Man U, that really is not the case - I am equally ready to criticise Yakubu, Gerrard and the many other divers out there. I am most critical of his character though. He needs to grow up. Thu 04 Dec 2008 09:55:59 GMT+1 Samwell2804 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=75#comment163 Great Blog Again RobboHad me in stiches again, some more quality analogies again?!Keep up the good work, more humour is needed to get me thru the working day?!from a neutrals point of view(i support a very lower league club)On the Ronaldo Front, i know there is a lot of Ronaldo Bashers and Ronaldo Haters out there & rightyly or wrongly so, it doesnt matter, the guy has won the Ballon D'Or on sheer merit, at the end of the day people he scored 42goals(does it really matter who they were against) won 2 trophies, arguably the most important 2, while people who hate him say it should of been Messi, i dont remember Barca winning a trophy last season and even tho his performance may of outshone Ronaldo in the meeting between the 2clubs in the champs league, it was Ronaldo who walked away the victor into the Final and on to lift the trophy?! Football is a results game at the end of the Day and who ever wins the trophies inevitably wins the Award.there have been plenty of occasions before and there will be plenty of occasions to come, where the winner of the trophy was not necessarily the best player at the time, think about it, surely Henry deserved to win it at some stage when he was at the top of his game and untouchable, but he didnt because he didnt win the major trophy, the CL?!but Ronaldo, from a neutral point of view, is a joy to watch at full flow when hes playing with a smile on his face, as are the other top players, Messi, Kaka, Aguero, Robinho, Ronaldinho etc. Thu 04 Dec 2008 09:31:34 GMT+1 Hibs-Beer-CoD-Girlfriend in that order http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=75#comment162 Robbo i mean come on it's embarrassing how poor your comedy skills are, if you were that funny you'd be starring in have i got news for you or some other BBC quizshow rather than writing a blog not too many people read or are impressed with.Ronaldo claims he heard a whistle, how often do footballers stop when they here the whistle in goal scoring positions? if he had really heard a whistle he would of still attempted to knock it in and if the whistle went then it would of gone again anyway.If Fergie watched the post match interview again then he was probably watching with embarrassment. Basically Ronaldo lost his mind and focus for a second and forgot where he was and what he was doing and as a reaction he tried to stop the ball hitting him with his hands.If Ronaldo wasn't so up himself and was more like a character like Jimmy Bullard he could of came and out and admitted it just being a stupid mistake and had a big laugh about it.As for him being a diver, yes at times he goes down easy, but he is unbelievably strong and quick andmore often than not Linekar and Hanson are talking about a piece of sublime skill that he has produced to score or assist a goal. Has anyone ever noticed Steven Gerrard is prone to going down easily, doesn't dive but doesn't take much for him to go down at times but probably because he isn't a foreigner and a "hardened English player" he wouldn't do that and no one would take notice.But whether you like Ronaldo or not you cannot deny he is an exceptional talent and even if at times he's invisible in a game he is still the most likely suspect to score the winning goal and win the game which in the end is the idea of football and i congratulate him on his award because apart from Torres there was no other contender for it. Thu 04 Dec 2008 09:20:17 GMT+1 tarquin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=74#comment161 Don't know why Fergie feels he has to defend Ronaldo (well I do, he's a c*ck) but seriously - he made a silly error and duly got booked and had to miss a carling cup tie...whoop de doo, they got a free ride with that onei'm sure it was innocent, but rules is rules - what are you going to do - retake the corner? then it could be construed as trying to gain an advantage, or you could award a free kick without a card - fun timesbut I expected an appeal (even though you can't appeal them), so that's something to be grateful foras for his free kicks - I hate the way his fans go on about them - his strike rate is rubbish! yeah they look great when they go in, but 9 times out of 10 they go straight into the wall - I'd rather have jimmy bullard, imagine how many goals united would get if he could score as many as some of the 'real' free kick takers out thereI also think the carling cup should be exempt from bans picked up in the prem - the competition has no respect from the big clubs and it punishes them in no way, he should miss a real game, not one he wouldn't have played in anyway (obviously you couldn't pre-judge that, so just remove the worthless cup from the list) Wed 03 Dec 2008 23:55:22 GMT+1 DennyCraneWHU http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=74#comment160 It's all right, Robbo. You can get back to the Bluebell, I've solved the problem. Wed 03 Dec 2008 23:54:47 GMT+1 DennyCraneWHU http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=73#comment159 Or maybe it's my crp version of MS Word. Wed 03 Dec 2008 23:53:44 GMT+1 DennyCraneWHU http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=73#comment158 ROBBO, SORT OUT THE QUESTION MARK THING WILL YA!!!You cant do punctuation on here without the QUESTION MARK gremlin gobbling them up!!! Wed 03 Dec 2008 23:51:39 GMT+1 DennyCraneWHU http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=73#comment157 I don’t mean to get picky, Robbo – well, overpicky – but Seaton Carew is Hartlepool United’s and not your lot’s. Still, I suppose you had to get “and watch canoeists disappear before your very eyes” in somehow. Very Askey-ish, that.(For those born after 1860, Arthur Askey was a short, very popular film and TV comedian, one of whose favourite lines was – you’ve guessed it – before your very eyes.) Wed 03 Dec 2008 23:47:48 GMT+1 dodiesmith http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=72#comment156 Robbo: Ferguson, to me, will always be remembered as a thug.... throwing the hairdryer at Beckham....another great player, who has shown amazing grace under pressure for years. Just as I remember with horror Zidane's cowardly one act display which wiped out all his career to me.Ferguson now, since Ronaldo wanted to move to Real Madrid, has become keeper of the flame for Ronaldo because he knows how much he is needed at ManU.Ronaldo deserves his awards, he plays mostly beautiful football but Ferguson should step back and shut up and let the player speak for himself.... it would be more credible. Ronaldo lost it....both hands coming up for the ball was an insult to the game and himself and he knows it. Let him learn from it.Robbo, another terrific article. Bless your heart! Your enthusiasm is NOT a rant... keep on keeping on! Wed 03 Dec 2008 23:08:40 GMT+1 margaritared http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=72#comment155 Great blog..Well done. Keep up the good work.!!! As a chef I found your parmo bit interesting. I sometimes do that with chicken here in Isla Margarita,so it´s interesting to see the Middlesboro connection. Best wishes Alan Wed 03 Dec 2008 23:04:45 GMT+1 lance_liver http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=71#comment154 I find the defenders of CR on here amusing, with their "if you listen on the replay...you can hear the whistle"!!!they're in a football ground, you can hear hundreds of whistles, cheers, shouting and abuse...there was no other strange whistel noise that nonsense! And perhaps those people so wishing to defend him can explain why it is that you would try and catch it instead of heading it into the net?!...or perhaps why it is we don't see other players catching balls when the whistle goes too!?the most disgraceful thing about the game, and it's now prestigous award winner, was the pathetic and disrespectful gesture that he did to the Ref, he should have been sent off there and then, we have seen red cards being given for every incident of that since it was brought to the fore last season, why was he treated differently??! he fouled a player, was carded and blatantly clapped his hands while waving the ref away....i'm sorry, but the rules have been clear he should've been sent off immediately. And what's worse is that Ferguson (with all his bellowing about matters after games) doesn't even have the decency to come out and say that it was wrong, dispicable and he will speak to the player about the incident and it wont happen again!Lets not deny though he is a great player, but he is not the greatest player the Prem has ever seen, he's been here 5/6 years now....and it's only last season that we've begun to start to see him really play...slow starter for 4 years?? not the best player ever i'm afraid! Wed 03 Dec 2008 22:54:31 GMT+1 The_Toonster http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=71#comment153 "Fergie may have fought tooth and nail to keep Senor S-S-Studio Line at OT, but the post-match defence of the gelled tumbler bordered on the laughable."Have you missed the past 100 times he's defended Ronaldo's various different cheats? It always sounds like that.... I've become desensitised to it now. I just expect that nonsense to come from Fergie while we're hearing the lads on 5 live yelling "How the hell is that not a yellow card for *insert whatever he did here*?" Wed 03 Dec 2008 22:45:05 GMT+1 fishiz http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=70#comment152 the truth is.. it was a wistle if you watch match of the day you can hear a faint wistle soming form the crowd or ref so hez in teh rigth n that ref is in the wrong.I would have banned the ref instead for ever. Lol Wed 03 Dec 2008 22:31:41 GMT+1 laumarvinho http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=70#comment151 Good Blog. Ronaldo will pay the price for his mistake as he misses 3 games with an automatic 3 match ban.Scolari will probably pay the FA, 2 pence for his little rant.Barrow will get about 40 pence from Boro's gate receipts but about £100k from TV money.Don't we just love the world of Football, all this also in the week, Arsenal least favourite to win the title just got back on track and the current leaders Liverpool, being disappointed at topping the table for what seems to be like an eternity.Arsenal for the, quadruple, not treble, no double, oh the the ladies double will do..... Wed 03 Dec 2008 22:18:25 GMT+1 jakobe_2008 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=69#comment150 Is it me or is everyone making a big fuss over this handball error. Jeeesse, the guy makes one small error and everyones turning it into a big issue. He's a world class player and his record shows he is. end of. Wed 03 Dec 2008 22:10:03 GMT+1 Flobbiegrunt http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=69#comment149 OK Smarta**e Robbo, just tell us what handballs actually qualify for a yellow. Deliberate - can't be because it has to be deliberate to be hands anyway. Denying a goal scoring opportunity - of course, someone was going to steal it from his head, run the length of the pitch and score at the other end NOT; trying to gain an unfair advantage - well not even that. Can you clarify please? Wed 03 Dec 2008 22:03:40 GMT+1 The Trawler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=68#comment148 145it's you're, not yourhope this helps Wed 03 Dec 2008 21:46:29 GMT+1 fairground http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=68#comment147 number 60 just because he has been awarded more free kicks than any other player doesnt mean he has been fouled more times,it just means he is better at conning the refs Wed 03 Dec 2008 21:36:25 GMT+1 Liverplate http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=67#comment146 Does Ronaldo think he's now become so good he can do a Maradona and try and pull off a sly hand ball in the box .....if so a lot of room needed for improvement! Wed 03 Dec 2008 21:28:20 GMT+1 panchopuskas http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=67#comment145 Nº 3"Ranting never helped anyone Robbo."______________________Oh yes it does. Everybody (maybe excluding yourself) feels a lot better after a decent rant. Blows the cobwebs away and gets the week off to a good start.So, if there's one thing I can't stand it's.......And don't even get me started on............Mmmm. Feeling better already. Wed 03 Dec 2008 21:19:25 GMT+1 Colin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=66#comment144 Re 143If your going to have a crack at Boro fans, then please have the decency to spell thename of the town correctly,as well as the players names your having a go at.Ask your Geography and English Teachers tomorrow. Illiterate Gob sh**te ! Wed 03 Dec 2008 21:15:03 GMT+1 GeordieRocka http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=66#comment143 The excuses are ridiculous, protecting his face - forgive me if I am wrong, but everytime you go to head the ball isn't it heading in the vacinity of your face?! And it certainly wasn't a reaction like that of when the ball boy threw the ball at him, he watched that ball all the way.Should he have been sent off. Yes, sarcastic clap to Webb, second bookable and should have been off. Would like to have heard Fergie's excuses then...Ronaldo best player in the world, not so sure. Undoubtedly exceptionally talented (pace, vision, skill, heading etc), horrible attitude, but last season was playing in a team at the top of their game - EPL & CL champions. If he had been playing for Arsenal, or indeed Barcelona, would he have got so many goals or have been deemed to be so outstanding, or had the opportunity. Difficult to call. Very easy to look good in a team that is playing well, not so in a team that are struggling.Messi, better close control and he doesn't have the arrogance. Not sure he has all the attributes of Ronaldo. It's close. And I am sick of Fergie asking for protection for him, if he is going to be cocky (step overs etc) he is going to get kicked. Fact. A 'tough' challenge is the skill of some defenders game... Wed 03 Dec 2008 20:56:33 GMT+1 The Trawler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=66#comment142 wowa blog entirely full of froth from the deluded and bitter intelligentsia that follow the beautiful gamewell fair enough some of you follow the likes of Middlesborough and are force fed the managerial wit from the unbelievably human Mr Southgate - is he really human? and left to sit next to empty plastic seats watching the equally gorgeous Pogatetz and Weaterno wonder you're obsessed with following Manchester United in the media! Wed 03 Dec 2008 20:38:30 GMT+1 Kevin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=65#comment141 I thought Ballon D'Or meant footballer of the Year?Real Madrid must be kicking themselves now - they knew Cristiano Ronaldo was going to be European Player of the Year, and it would have said 'Real Madrid' next to his name on the roll of honour had it not been for that pesky Sir Alex Ferguson.They tried the same thing - but succeeded - halfway through previous seasons with Figo, Ronaldo and Cannavaro.They haven't produced their own winner since 1959... I suppose Manchester City will have the next ten Ballon D'Or winners using the same cunning plan. Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:56:35 GMT+1 DenistheGenius http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=65#comment140 ...oh, i'm sorry James10 - i forgot that in order to be considered "the best", your team has to win every competition. for example, everyone knows Cruyff was crap because Holland never lifted the World Cup!again, i'll listen to any SOLID arguments as to how Christiano is a better footballer than Messi, or even Kaka. the gelled one is amazing, i won't debate that - but i will debate that it's rather lame to go by the exact same name as another football legend, and what's worse - a contemporaneous one. Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:56:26 GMT+1 the swashbuckler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=64#comment139 I think Ronaldo deserved to be sent off for his mocking of the referee after his first yellow and I figure that Webb was looking for an excuse to send him off after that. I honestly think he thought play had stopped when he handled to ball. What advantage was he gaining from handling it? He was right over top of it, in a pefect postion to head it in and probably would have 9 times out of 10. Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:52:05 GMT+1 James_10 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=64#comment138 btw everyone who's goin on about messi being better than ronaldo , messi didn't even get named best player in spain last season, so tbh there is no argument to him being better than ronaldo in the first place, watever your opinions are of ronaldo , he is the #1 . tha y he won fif pro and now the ballon d'or. Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:48:18 GMT+1 madeiraman57 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=63#comment137 I agree with #44 and most who can see Ronaldo has grown up and 'does not' dive, he still goes down when contacted, like most others with his speed and control.He must have heard something , or mistimed as he is probably as good a header of the ball as there is in the PL . Receiving a second yellow, he's off no complaints there.I for one see him as a very good young professional and anyone who hates him ( many posters ) would have him in their team in a flash!!He is a lad of 23 and is probably more mature than others at his age, (as a player and human being ) but is still learning his craft. Stand by for when he really is at the top of his game. Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:44:41 GMT+1 James_10 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=63#comment136 Robbo great articlefor all the people who said ronaldo aint the best , well he is that's y he won the award of messi, and for the person who said messi outshone ronaldo in europe, well that's clearly wrong because i didn't see messi in the champions league final , btw they got knocked out in the semi's , messi wasn't even good enough 2 guide his side in the top 2 of la liga , wake up and smell the coffee ronaldo is the best in the world by a mile. so for all u people who hate him as a person, stop going on about it , because he's there 2 be rate as football player and not a person Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:44:26 GMT+1 U13691428 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=62#comment135 This post has been Removed Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:33:45 GMT+1 Name on the trophy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=62#comment134 Good article, but several of the comments on Ronaldo were somewhat petty and unnecessary. Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:31:06 GMT+1 plunger11 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=61#comment133 He's a gazelle, right? So he can really jump, right? So he was still on his way up, right?So now what do you think he was protecting? Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:27:32 GMT+1 khareghani http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=61#comment132 hey Robbo been reading you for years and maybe I dont always agree with everything you say, but it must said you do say things that need saying(most of the time :D ). good article Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:15:14 GMT+1 Eewires http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=60#comment131 I imagine that Ronaldo is probably ok if you got to know him, the problem is that the personality that he projects is of a spoilt child who is prepared to do anything (lie, cheat etc.) to get what he wants.The fact that he is also a magnificent footballer probably makes his personality seem even worse. I have heard many Man U fans (I live in Surrey so am surrounded by them) complain that they wish he would just play football and stop the play acting and pouting, so if that comes from fans...What this means is that he is either worshipped or detested, with not much space for anything in between.You can contrast this, if you are as old as me you can anyway, with the attitude to a former Man U European footballer of the year called Best. It didn't matter what team you supported you still loved George, for his skill with the ball, his determination to play for the team, and his polite charm when off the field.Many have commented on CRs ability to fall down at will, and correctly also pointed out that Gerrard (another universally admired) and others are no better. A comment often made by players is 'I felt a touch so I went down'. To me that is an admission that you dived. You should only go down if you are knocked down. Football is a contact sport and being touched is not a foul unless it stops you from being able to continue the passage of play. Any player falling down when they didn't need to has dived, regardless of whether they 'felt a touch'. For goodness sake, people will be handling the ball and claiming to have done it because they heard a whistle next! Oh... Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:11:02 GMT+1 GeoffPike http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=60#comment130 Robbo I loved your blog. This is the kind of humour I've always enjoyed as a football fan - a bit wry and tongue in cheek about your own team, while seeking to puncture the pomposity of the rich and powerful. I really don't care why Ronaldo handled the ball. The incident was just a heaven sent opportunity to take the mickey out of a big club and a ridiculously talented player. It's really a waste of time trying to painstakingly defend him. Most of us don't care.It's a shame that Manchester Utd fans who possess this great player and who enjoy so much success have to take it all so seriously. Ronaldo may be the greatest player in Europe but that doesn't mean he should be immune from ridicule. Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:05:07 GMT+1 timmymac23 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=60#comment129 Congratulations on another moronic barrage of sexist drivel. Wed 03 Dec 2008 19:00:39 GMT+1 DenistheGenius http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=59#comment128 another quality laugh, Robbhino!...not sure i buy that you rate him the best in Premiership history, though. a bit of overcompensating, perhaps? considering how much you enjoy slagging him off, and with good reason usually... i'd go for Bergkamp, but then look at my blogname! MAYBE the pretty boy deserved it on numbers alone, but can anyone make a decent argument that he's a better player than young Messi? i'm not seeing it - Messi is a level above from what i've seen, and should've just edged im out in the vote.Fergie is a complete joke - he wouldn't know honesty if it sat on his face! Wed 03 Dec 2008 18:59:44 GMT+1 timmymac23 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=59#comment127 Congratulations on a another moronic barrage of sexist drivel. Wed 03 Dec 2008 18:58:26 GMT+1 rooneys right boot http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=58#comment126 post 9????????????????????????? u mad or what Wed 03 Dec 2008 18:51:32 GMT+1 gstonesunited http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=58#comment125 Great blog again, it was just a moment of madness I think, bit like Scholes in the super cup, the excuses were just silly though.post 9 though, seriously?! Wed 03 Dec 2008 18:48:01 GMT+1 rolybak http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=57#comment124 It's obvious to see that he has gone up too soon and is too high for the ball, for him to say he was protecting his face is fair enough, but, why did he, at the time, insist he had heard a whistle? Wed 03 Dec 2008 18:47:29 GMT+1 rooneys right boot http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=57#comment123 good read robbo. no excuses for ron at the wkend, just a mad moment! fergie would draw less critisisum if he just came out and said that! as a united fan tho iam glad we have the best player in the world in our team. he has his faults ie no loyalty or spine but as a footballer he is one of the best iv ever seen . Wed 03 Dec 2008 18:25:57 GMT+1 snoopbrummybrum http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=56#comment122 oh dear oh dear oh dear!did he more or less say chelsea are average without drogba and j.cole. so lampard the best CM in the world right now is average? deco, mikel if fact all of them are match winners. i understand there is something missing to them as they are losing points, and although they were highly unlucky to lose to arsenal they should have never have let them get back in the game, but how ignorant is it to say "and Joe Cole and Drog aren't there, they're a bit bloody average". i think its fair to say in the first few months of the season chelsea were the most in-form team in the world, and drogba and j.cole were not the forerunners of the team then.. Wed 03 Dec 2008 18:19:11 GMT+1 watterswatto http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=56#comment121 Robbaldo is different class. Always makes me laugh out loud. Ronaldo also different class, as a Liverpool fan I wish we had him. Apart from the synchronised diving with Gerrard we'd have another much needed match winner. Wed 03 Dec 2008 18:19:09 GMT+1 DaBull http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=55#comment120 This post has been Removed Wed 03 Dec 2008 18:15:15 GMT+1 Robificastor http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=55#comment119 Post 9 what a stupid comment, he doesnt add to games other than goals, apart from scoring and winning what else is there to football you clown, or maybe you're an Arsenal fan that thinks mesmerising football and losing is the best part?I'm quite sure every single fan would want him in there team and those that dont are lying, stupid or like to lose. Wed 03 Dec 2008 18:02:22 GMT+1 exquisitearsenal http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=54#comment118 if you had noticed 'is disarray', i meant 'in disarray'! Wed 03 Dec 2008 17:59:25 GMT+1 SuperStrikerShivam http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=54#comment117 Viva Ronaldo! Wed 03 Dec 2008 17:57:48 GMT+1 exquisitearsenal http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=53#comment116 On the subject of Cristiano Ronaldo, there is no doubt that he has flourished under the expert management of Alex Ferguson and developed the skill and technical prowess of a world-beater. However, there are two things concerning Ronaldo, which evoke some serious questions. In the important matches such as against Barcelona in the Champions league, Ronaldo has suffered from some cataclysmic underperformances. He becomes a peripheral figure and in the mentioned game, Messi dominated the spotlight. In truth, Manchester United were fortunate to win as it was only Barcelona's profligacy, which prevented them from leaving United's defence is disarray. Also, there are times when he doesn't appear totally devoted to the club that is responsible for his rise in fortunes. His muted celebration aganist West Bromwich Albion earlier in the season indicated to me that he didn't value the nurturing environment his club had offered him. I could compare him to a stubborn child, who didn't get the sweets that he wanted. Ronaldo had the same attitude but his complaints stemmed from the assumption that his club had denied him his dream opportunity to join Real Madrid. It was in that monent when i realised that his prominence in the football world may have triggered this conspicuous arrogance. As an Arsenal supporter, it's impossible to imagine the benefits a player like Ronaldo would bring to our club, but the propsect of an ungrateful Ronaldo disrupting our dressing room ethos and testing the patience of Wenger is not a positive one. The number of fans Ronaldo has is testimony to the aesthetic splendour he contributes to the spectacle every time he plays. I cannot credit him enough for his ability to conjure magnificent goals to rescue his team from a seemingly unthreatening position. His unique style of dribbling and free-kick taking has brought something different to the game and ignited the passion among youngsters to imitate him. He is now an icon for the sport and while his persona is maybe not desirable, that is not a crime. This was not a rant at Ronaldo, as you can see but just an evaluation of a special individual, a mercurial talent and a talisman. Wed 03 Dec 2008 17:53:26 GMT+1 Neon_Ball http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/12/hands_of_ron.html?page=53#comment115 Very Good blog, spot on with the few paragraphs about ronaldo, got me leaughing and it was telling the truth at the same time. Its true that wuthout ronaldo united are average, and with him we all get to see what it takes to be a good actor/swimming diver, we also get to see alot of ferguson ranting to the refs about him getting fouled and put to ground alot (hes not getting fouled its called havng no physical strengh and going to ground easier than a feather), now iv had my half rant about ronaldo, as usual good blog Robbo. Great rants and some good laughable stuff, also true stuff.Well done. Wed 03 Dec 2008 17:47:14 GMT+1