Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html en-gb 30 Fri 29 May 2015 14:30:47 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html HMS_KnightHawk http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=99#comment191 Every year you bubble heads Say ManUnited look weak and they not going to take any silver this and every year we prove you all wrong.Ropey!!? that's what you think Robbo / like you said driving a fast car dose not make you a better driver and jumping to common conclusions like those pub stool annalist who think that they have a finger on whats, whats in football. ManUnited is having a change of the guard and is going about it in an a orderly manner; by slowly breaking in the new player. While winning games.ManUnited is a team, all 11 players help win the game, we don't depend on one or two players- all can step-up and put in the winner if they have too, and that is what makes ManUnited and others top teams there are only 3 teams that I think that can win games without key players and that is Manchester United - Chelsea - Arsenal Liverpool showed that they can'tTottenham I think can take liverpool spot as a big 4ManCity is still a question markAston Villa seem to be always a few players short of saying "Yes We Can"Sunderland has a way to go still like the rest of the table... most are stronger this year and again the relegation battle will be hot again this yearAfter the Xmass break; we will see who really got what it takes to be King Of The Hill. Mon 19 Oct 2009 16:27:18 GMT+1 bluehellsbells http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=98#comment190 actaully on second thoughts, what is the point of Finland? There are probably fewer famous Finns (other than Jaws) than there are BelgiansBomb away - only after Trotter has poled his office though Mon 12 Oct 2009 11:54:55 GMT+1 bluehellsbells http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=98#comment189 166. At 6:03pm on 09 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:Should we bomb Finland as there is an Arab living there?Have spent the weekend chatting to my old mate Barrack about this, and I can give you a worled exclusive on his decision:Reluctantly decided against this due to the fact a) it clashes a bit with the Nobel Peace Prize idea and b) the arab was spotted with a can of Castrol GTX in his hand ... Mon 12 Oct 2009 11:46:40 GMT+1 captainlazytim http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=97#comment188 Blue Bell is a school, not a bar. A Michael Essien school. Mon 12 Oct 2009 11:44:53 GMT+1 redwillhunted7 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=97#comment187 ...almost as bad as my spelling Sat 10 Oct 2009 22:40:41 GMT+1 redwillhunted7 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=96#comment186 Starfire, Capello seemed incensed with the official. Havent seen the sending off incident yet so unsure whether it was contentious...i see he showed the red to Rio first tho until the 4th official intervened :-)It's hard to play in Ukraine with 11 men, let alone 10! Luckily there are no ukranian/croatians at my work...if there are and i dont know them, i'll probably be introduced on Monday...watching Colombia v Chile game, defending is shockibg in 1st half.. Sat 10 Oct 2009 22:39:27 GMT+1 Bantam_Doonhamer http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=96#comment185 Gawd help me, I work with a few Croatians and next time I see them I'm going to get stick for England allowing the Ukraine to qualify in their place! Sat 10 Oct 2009 21:10:47 GMT+1 Starburst_995 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=95#comment184 Hmm, so much for that prediction :S Mind, given they had to play 80 minutes with 10 men they didn't do so bad.And we can console oursleves with the very real possibillity Ukraine will beat Croatia to ther playoff spot. Sat 10 Oct 2009 19:43:58 GMT+1 Starburst_995 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=95#comment183 3-1 to England, on the basis that in spite of the fact we've already qualified the team won't be going easy because Capello's not the sort of guy who'll put up with it. Also there'll be several players making their case as to why they deserve to board the plane to South Africa next year ;) Sat 10 Oct 2009 09:05:16 GMT+1 redwillhunted7 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=94#comment182 Fellas, prediction for Fabio's fancies vs Ukraine? Big incentive for Ukraine to win to try to get in the play-offs.Off to see Australia v Holland tonight in Sydney. Some decent players on show (strange for this neck of the woods) with Cahill, Kewell, Kuyt, Huntelaar etc on show...Robbo, if Boro get back in the EPL (gawd help us) they need to sort out their away fan seat ticket allocations so you can bolster ur coffers with full gate figures :-)Have a good weekend all... Sat 10 Oct 2009 02:21:33 GMT+1 Robbo Robson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=94#comment181 #178a. how far is Leek from the Borob. it's not my boozer he's talking about and to be honest if I keep asking questions on your behalf I'm going to get me face caved in. Now enough of this nonsense!PS you are welcome in the Blue Bell if you are gay but don;t assume owt. Sat 10 Oct 2009 00:11:05 GMT+1 redpreacherman http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=93#comment180 Reply to Tommy Onion 136.This time I'm being serious. I don't know about £128m but as I understand from reading what accounts info is available there is an indication that G&H have invested £105m into Liverpool FC. What worries me though is that from day one G&H have not invested a penny of their own money into the club; it has all been leveraged. That could leave LFC in a hole. Fri 09 Oct 2009 23:06:26 GMT+1 Holloway2Holland http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=93#comment179 *@ 178. Maybe not the safest place to take a leak Fri 09 Oct 2009 20:15:19 GMT+1 Holloway2Holland http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=92#comment178 @ 179. Maybe not the safest place to take a leak. Fri 09 Oct 2009 20:14:07 GMT+1 THE-WORD-LIFE http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=92#comment177 Robbo I know someone that lives in Leek Town and they have confirmed there is a gay bar in Middlesbrough called the Blue Bell. Fri 09 Oct 2009 20:00:44 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=91#comment176 As long as you don't dispatch Boardman with his 'joke' book! Fri 09 Oct 2009 19:44:26 GMT+1 TommyB http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=91#comment175 Robbo, I have a bone to pick with you. I'm unimpressed with the fact that you have printed a photo of our messiahs (yes, on Merseyside we are duotheistic). If you were a Danish newspaper.... In fact, I'm just dispatching Stan Boardman to the home counties with a rucksack and a copy of the Republican Charter. He has been trained by Bill O'Reilly. Be afraid. Fri 09 Oct 2009 19:00:38 GMT+1 Starburst_995 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=90#comment174 I heard it's a hard drive to Whiteley.I'll get my coat... Fri 09 Oct 2009 18:27:46 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=90#comment173 he probably crashed fourteen times on the way there. Gosh, there are so many stories to tell but sadly they all end with floppy discs. Fri 09 Oct 2009 17:57:36 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=89#comment172 Bill visited Whitley because he wanted a new Office and heard there was a nice Vista from one there. When he got there he saw that the football team were Excelling and used his Power to Point them in the direction of the Premier League. Fri 09 Oct 2009 17:51:43 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=89#comment171 Whitley, you're only able to get away with these scandalous comments as you have the best team in football at the moment. A Bill Gates visit to Bolton would only be akin to Robbo Robson visiting Whitley Bay and therefore, entirely within the realms of possibility! Fri 09 Oct 2009 17:38:53 GMT+1 WhitleyBayWonTheVase http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=88#comment170 There you go, I'll set up, you.... Fri 09 Oct 2009 17:32:40 GMT+1 WhitleyBayWonTheVase http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=88#comment169 I think a few people have caught the wrong end of the stick with the rumours that Bill Gates might be interested in buying Bolton.He is visiting it, thats right.However, thats because he overheard a conversation in which someone said there were lots of cracked windows there. Fri 09 Oct 2009 17:32:05 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=87#comment168 you too Holland, have a good one! Fri 09 Oct 2009 17:30:52 GMT+1 Holloway2Holland http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=86#comment167 Trotter I was being sincere, the poll was funny, enjoy your weekend. Fri 09 Oct 2009 17:26:46 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=86#comment166 Holland, is that the same pole that rhymes with sole! The circle of life eh'! Whichever it is, you're very welcome!Gaz, 25% knew that Australia was next to Belgium.25% knew it was an island off the coast of Aborigine.25% knew exactly where it was and could spot it on the globe printed on the squishy rubber ball that sits next to their stapler.25% asked if we could talk about down under after lunch.Hurry up with next week's poll questions. The 6 hour happy hour starts in 40 minutes so they'll all be off. I'm off mesel' - a wedding weekend (not mine). Fri 09 Oct 2009 17:22:07 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=85#comment165 This seems like a fun way of wasting Trotters valuable work time. Maybe we can all put a list of questions for him to conduct polls to our American friends...Do you know where Australia is?Should we bomb Finland as there is an Arab living there?Why do you still allow Bill O'Reilly to walk among the free? Fri 09 Oct 2009 17:03:33 GMT+1 Holloway2Holland http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=85#comment164 And cheers for the pole Fri 09 Oct 2009 17:02:38 GMT+1 Holloway2Holland http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=84#comment163 Trotter, I'll help you with your 3 division plan, how about spliting it into the Haves, the Have Nots & the Have Notts County. Fri 09 Oct 2009 17:01:23 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=84#comment162 ok, results are in...The question was posed "what do you think of Stan Kroenkie."Respondent #1, 51 year old female : Who?Respondent #2, 30 year old male : F%&*, that dude's loaded man.Respondent #3, 40 year old male : Didn't he buy a piece of some soccer team in London, I mean in England someplace, you know, over the pond? He owns a s%&* load of sports franchises.Respondent #4, 25 year old female : Maybe we can talk about it over lunch Sir?Conclusion : not an overwhelming interest but a mild acknowledgement of his financial and sporting qualifications. I know there was talk about a radio host buying his interest in the NFL St. Louis Rams but don't think it happened as yet. If further information is forthcoming you'll be the first to know. Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:58:45 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=83#comment161 There's a Pole in your office?I thought they had all went home.Unless it's a lap-dancing pole, in which case I may need some therapy to get that image out of my mind. Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:55:45 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=83#comment160 Hold on Holland, I'll do a poll in the office. Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:51:27 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=82#comment159 was what i was thinking - surely no-one's been that daft?[adam aside] Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:46:57 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=82#comment158 Star, if Gates buys Bolton he can even have the No.9 shirt on a Saturday afternoon.I'm working on a plan to split the prem into 3 divisions. The Haves, The Have Nots and the Never Will Haves. Sponsorship opportunities available. Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:46:02 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=81#comment157 Tommy...Pay to watch something on the internet?Now you truly have lost it!! Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:45:50 GMT+1 Holloway2Holland http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=81#comment156 Trotter mate, what's your (& the statesides) perception of Stan Kroenkie of the Colarado Rapid & Denver Nuggets(I think) Cheers. Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:43:11 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=80#comment155 btw - has anyone signed up to pay to watch Ingurland on the internet tomorrow? Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:40:34 GMT+1 Starburst_995 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=80#comment154 Bill Gates owning Bolton? That I'd love to see and (no offence intended Trotter) will get rid of that irksome fool Gartside who's so adamant of splitting the prem into two tiers and bringing the Auld Firm into the mix. Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:39:19 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=79#comment153 Gaz, once again you make a great point, it must practically be a done deal! Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:30:32 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=79#comment152 Trotter, now that Bill devotes his time to The Gates Foundation which solely helps out the unfortunate and those in need of charity then surely the prospects of him buying Bolton are likely. Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:23:14 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=78#comment151 Way I see it, G&H were and are looking to make some cash, they're both strapped over here with their hockey and baseball interests being hard hit. They certainly have put a lot of dosh in and they expect a return one way or the other, either going forward or with a sale.The Glazers are still in good shape with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers but they're stinkin' up the league this year and if things don't improve on the field the cash stream will dry up a bit but still very healthy. I think they have actually reduced the debt on Man U below that at the time of their purchase. If they paid 700 and they're only in debt 600 then it's going in the right direction. From my understanding it was their clout that guaranteed the original purchase and that debt was then transferred to the club, is that about right? No big deal, they have an 85% mortgage on what should be an appreciating asset!Abromovich never had any expectation of making any money, for him it was a play thing, however, the realities facing his own empire have probably given cause to pause and reduced his lavish spending somewhat.Who weathers the storm only time will tell. Hopefully Bill Gates will buy Bolton next week. Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:17:32 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=78#comment150 you had me at * 150. At 5:08pm on 09 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote: I know nothinggreat youtube vid the other week btw - just seen it - the last line cracked me up Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:11:29 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=77#comment149 I know nothing about Liverpool FC apart from the fact they have the bestest manager in the whole wide world and I want him to stay there forever!! Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:08:00 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=77#comment148 No offence meant - It was a wee jokey dig, Trotter - following on from your revelations the other week about the writing being on the wall for Benitez because Dalglish now had a role at the clubit turns out we've found someone who knows even less than you about Liverpool FC but wants to talk an awful lot more about it. Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:04:21 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=76#comment147 adam - it's clear you know sweet FA about Liverpool - so let's try and align it to the situation at Man U and see if the penny dropsMan Utd are in over £600m worth of debt - how much money do you think the Glazers have put in to the club? Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:01:48 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=76#comment146 TommyO, why are you bringing me into this debate? Having tucked a small slip of paper into my 2014 follow-up folder I then spent a small fortune on an LFC brainwashing week in the mountains and now you're bringing it all back again. It's not right. In other news, I was recently rooting through a drawer looking for something and uncovered a programme from a Liverpool legends game signed by all the players and of all people....Stan Boardman! Fri 09 Oct 2009 16:00:36 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=75#comment145 137 - and i'll ask you for the second timewhere and when have Chelsea recouped the money Abramovich has spent in the last 5 years?Our chief Exec has said the club is in £245m of debt. That's £200m more than when they took over. Where is the £128m? Fri 09 Oct 2009 15:59:35 GMT+1 Holloway2Holland http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=75#comment144 Good call on the Segways Gaz, there's loads of 'em over here, even the meter-maids use them. (sc*mbags) Fri 09 Oct 2009 15:55:34 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=74#comment143 # 38 - best start practising my bowls then although I have a few decades before I qualify for grandad whites Fri 09 Oct 2009 15:41:20 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=73#comment142 I think they're illegal in the UK though except on private land (which I guess a pub would count as although you couldn't go out with it) Fri 09 Oct 2009 15:40:13 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=73#comment141 Segways are the way to go!! They even have those for golf now. Fri 09 Oct 2009 15:37:44 GMT+1 Holloway2Holland http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=72#comment140 140. At 4:20pm on 09 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:Yes but can your pub fit tne necessary cart to travel from the oche to teh board (may need one of those mobility scooters) Maybe you could relocate your team from the pub to the nearest a la carte resteraunt... Coat please caddy me old mate! Fri 09 Oct 2009 15:27:09 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=72#comment139 Yes but can your pub fit tne necessary cart to travel from the oche to teh board (may need one of those mobility scooters) Fri 09 Oct 2009 15:20:28 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=71#comment138 I think the rich should start buying darts clubs. My dream of darts caddies surely will then become a reality!! Fri 09 Oct 2009 15:12:23 GMT+1 awesomeMr_Burns http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=71#comment137 Its not really an investment buying a football club, it is, as we all know a rich mans fantasy football game, maybe its trendy if you own a footy club along with your yachts,mansions and fleets of cars i dont know.But what if it became less trendy even a bit tacky for the rich to own a football club and bowling clubs became the new rich thing to own and they started buying parks up and down the country and throwing millions into bowling greens turning them into all seated bowling green stadiums and grandads in their whites started earning a hundred grand a week and flashed their cash at the working mens clubs.It could happen !!!! Fri 09 Oct 2009 15:08:51 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=70#comment136 They may have spent more but have recouped more which is why Benitez still has the highest net spend.I know scousers are thick but for heavens sake....and how do you know what they have or haven't paid in. Considering Benitez is always complaining that he has no money yet there always seems to be something for transfers they must have put something in. It may not be as much as £128M but then again it may actually be that high. Get hold of the accounts and you'll sharp find out Fri 09 Oct 2009 15:04:31 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=70#comment135 brilliant - so now you admit that the only two managers who have won the League in the time Benitez has been in England have spent more than him - PROGRESS !!!There is no way on God's earth those two yanks have thumped £128m in to Liverpool FC. They took over a business in the red to the tune of £45m. It's now £245m in debt while the manager net spends an average of £18m a year.i know you're not the brightest but seriously, as they say stateside, you do the math ! Fri 09 Oct 2009 14:56:56 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=69#comment134 I didn't talk a bunch of crap about the manager.Benitez who you laud as a great manager has spent £210M since being manager and while jhe has won teh Champions league, Super Cup and FA Cup he has not yet lifted teh Premier League title and that is the milestone against which he must be judged and it is not very likely that will change this season. Yes Fergie & Mourinho have spent more but they have won the league and as a result their transfer dealings are not thrown into as sharp a relief.As for owners investment as pointed out matchday & sponsor revenue covers the running cost of the stadium, player & staff wages and academy costs. Transfer money is more than likely coming out of their pockets to a reasonable extent Fri 09 Oct 2009 14:49:17 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=69#comment133 Quite frankly if the whole city fell into theIrish Sea and disapperaed forever like Atlantis I'd be more than happy.------Leave us out of this! We don't want it. Fri 09 Oct 2009 14:34:40 GMT+1 davidgilmourthe3rd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=68#comment132 bloomin knighthoods again knights were knighted for deeds or daring do and other acts of chivalrysome modern ones may not have done so with a sword or lance or joust but faced the the full might of the luftwaffer. i know i was there.sportsmen/women should make do with a rather over the top salary for doing little else than something enjoyable.and as for knighting Lollypop persons I am horrified. Fri 09 Oct 2009 14:33:27 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=68#comment131 131. At 3:21pm on 09 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:You're theone that brought LFC up.Yes, i was slagging off the owners.You then proceeded to talk a bunch of crap about the manager, so i've had to put you straight. Not for the first time either. Fri 09 Oct 2009 14:27:00 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=67#comment130 You're theone that brought LFC up. Quite frankly if the whole city fell into theIrish Sea and disapperaed forever like Atlantis I'd be more than happy.As for the Nobel Prize - forget Giggs or evn St Stevie,Step forward GARY NEVILLE.Let's face it he's done just as much as Obama to deserve it Fri 09 Oct 2009 14:21:39 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=67#comment129 127 - Mellor spent a season on loan at West Ham, played a dozen first team games under Benitez at Anfield, got injured and was then loaned to Wigan, where he got injured again you should quit talking about LFC you're worse than Trotter128 - Obama got the Nobel prize? I can't believe Giggs was overlooked !!! Fri 09 Oct 2009 14:12:19 GMT+1 jacksofbuxton http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=66#comment128 Now,I may be a little confused here Robbo.Is your blog meant to be a bi-weekly,whimsical column.Or is it course work for english g.c.s.e being graded by JDR?Please advise. Fri 09 Oct 2009 14:07:15 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=66#comment127 Maybe we should get Obama on here to moderate and use some of his peace inspiring magnificence.For those of you in work you are missing Sky News having an all out epileptic fit at the news he has won the Nobel prize. I am tempted to switch on Fox News to see if O'Reilly or Glen Beck has actually blown up at the news but watching Fox News tends to induce appalling angry episodes so I'll give it a miss. Fri 09 Oct 2009 14:05:37 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=65#comment126 #125 - I'm only counting 1st team appearances - the loan spells was to indicate that they are decent players but still retained by Utd . Mellor and Wright didn't spend much time on loan they were just sold. As for the 3 propsects you mentioned I've seen Darby & Spearing's names in squads but the proof is in minutes and I don't think they'll see many of those under Rafa although Jay Spearing has played 1 match in the Carling Cup Fri 09 Oct 2009 14:03:42 GMT+1 davidgilmourthe3rd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=65#comment125 " A blog that contains a number of of different debate worthy points and no mention of the Blue Bell (other than whether or not its a gay bar). " LOL; I have to agree on your opinion of Robbo's Blog yes I have noticed he seems to cover quite a range for us to chip in with our two pennys. Much of which is done with a wicked sense of humour as well, he almost takes the sting out of what is often a hotbed of heated arguments, many of which fall on deaf ears, its all become a tad to serious, as if lives depend upon the outcomes of the various topics. The Humour is very welcome these days.I actually like Phil's Blog's as well.as can be plain to see i am not exactly the brightest of stars when it comes to commenting on shall we say the finer points in the game, Phil is very centralised, i assume thats because he covers the big matches etc but non the less the guy makes for an interesting read .Chalk and Cheese but which one is which I dont know and i am not to fussed ( was gonna say ermmm a**** ) both pen some interesting stuff and then leave it to us to respond. Shine On. Fri 09 Oct 2009 14:03:04 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=64#comment124 Loan Spells? - why should i want to count loan spells? It's hard to converse with someone who continually wants to move the goalposts? I was talking about 1st team appearances for Man Utd (seeing as i assume you were talking about 1st team appearances for Liverpool for Wright & Mellor).btw - your last comment flies in the face of the promotion of Darby, Kelly & Spearing to the 1st team squad - but how are you supposed to know that? Fri 09 Oct 2009 13:47:40 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=64#comment123 120 - RBA - Have you been copying the US Constitution? Just because Timothy Matlock couldn't spell British right... Fri 09 Oct 2009 13:39:39 GMT+1 JoeDavisRoach http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=63#comment122 Well Robbo - certainly an improvement. A blog that contains a number of of different debate worthy points and no mention of the Blue Bell (other than whether or not its a gay bar).The issue of these mega rich owners taking over is a bit of a doube edged sword. As a non supporter of the big 4 from a purely specatator point of view I think that the premier league is becoming more competitive which makes it more exciting. The more teams that are comptitve and the more money available for clubs to attract big signings the better. Even the big 4 was really getting split into Man Utd/Chelsea and then Liverpool/Arsenal. On the other hand one does have to sympathise with clubs like Everton who have seen years of steady progress count for very little and increasingly less as clubs spend more and more.It does seem to good to be true at the moment that there wont be some sort of disaster waiting ahead for a premier league club who tries to buy success and the ones that seem in most anger are the smaller clbs such as Portsmouth who have no real brand so when the money runs out it seems like its a race against time to find a new owner or face going to the wall. Fri 09 Oct 2009 13:39:06 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=63#comment121 #119 - If you count loan spells quite a lot actually. Factor in Craig Cathcart and you have over 150 first team appearances although a lot of those rae on loan elsewhere. I think they actually have about 30 starts between them if you count league cup games.If you look further down the list you'll find a lot of local lads at the academy a lot of whom are youth internationals so at least we are looking for local talent. Yours does as well but I can't see them making the grade as Rafa doesn't seem to like English players preferring to buy foreign. Fri 09 Oct 2009 13:38:34 GMT+1 Holloway2Holland http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=62#comment120 Thank you sir, btw Chris is up again. Fri 09 Oct 2009 13:27:31 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=61#comment119 H2H yep we are the proud home of the Brittish Army... so yeah we are never short on Targets... Also well done joining in on the Fish puns... Fri 09 Oct 2009 13:24:40 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=61#comment118 So - i'm not allowed Wright or Mellor but you can have that list of nobodys ? How many 1st team appearances have they got between them? Fri 09 Oct 2009 13:16:28 GMT+1 Holloway2Holland http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=60#comment117 RBA, isn't Aldershot the home of that large army barracks? I can imagine there would be loads of targets there. Fri 09 Oct 2009 13:12:00 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=60#comment116 Danny Welbeck is local and there are a few prospects like James Chester, Danny Drinkwater, Danny Simpson and Tom Heaton are local lads who are on loan at the moment but looking promising. Richard Eckersley was also local and looked promising but didn't want to be behind Evra and Fabio so moved to Burnley but he got a couple of appearances albeit mainly in cup games and had been offered a new contract so Fergie obviously had some faith in him Fri 09 Oct 2009 13:10:24 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=59#comment115 DGMT3rd... Glad i am not alone in the carrying other people side of sales, though i am all alone in international sales these days so no one to carry... And Gaz of course Aldershot has Targets, however like our standards they are alot lower than what most would consider acceptable or proper. As for Gervais, i do agree but to be fair i din't hate ghost town any where near as much as i thought i would... Fri 09 Oct 2009 13:03:37 GMT+1 Holloway2Holland http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=59#comment114 91 93 & 94, Surely this is not the plaice for that kind of talk. Fri 09 Oct 2009 13:02:24 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=58#comment113 And the longer Rafa stays the better! Fri 09 Oct 2009 12:58:56 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=58#comment112 when and where have Chelsea recouped the money Abramovich has spent in the last 5 years?United just got in £80m on Ronaldo which nicely skews such figures for them but Berbatov, Rooney, Ferdinand all cost £10m more than Benitez has ever spent on a player, add in fees for Carrick, Anderson, Nani, Valencia, Hargreaves - and that's nigh on £180m on players currently at Man Utd in that little list alone, there's no way that can be matched by Benitez. He's bought and sold players because he's trying to build a team/squad - without a mega rich owner giving you £100m to spend in one window (a la City/Chelsea) that takes time, you have to gamble on lesser players and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Liverpool are clearly a stronger outfit now than when he took over but Man U and Chelsea are not standing still they're spending big money, while Wenger continues to weave his magic with young players.As for youngsters making the grade at Anfield it most definitely is a problem - hence why Benitez made the changes at the academy he did (Trotter will give you all the details ;o) ) over the past few seasons. But it's not just a problem for Liverpool - since the 'Fledglings' all came through together at United in the early 90s where are the rest of the young mancunians making the grade at OT ? There aren't any! United scout Europe/the World to enitrely legally entice young players to come to them, Arsenal do the same. A cursory glance at the make-up of Liverpool academy shows they are trying to catch up with such methods.All of which is getting away from the point - Gillet & Hicks/Statler & Waldorf are parasites on Liverpool Football Club and the sooner they up sticks and leave the better. Fri 09 Oct 2009 12:54:52 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=57#comment111 Gervais is fine in cameos such as Stardust, Night at the Museum etc. Just can't carry a film as the major character Fri 09 Oct 2009 12:44:29 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=57#comment110 Starfire - you wouldn't think it as the 3 of them dress like scruffs and buy crap palyers - Why aren't they bidding for Vieira and Messi & anyone else as they have more cash than City (easy answer don't bother). If they splashed the cash then QPR would be in the premier league in 1 season rather than being mediocre Fri 09 Oct 2009 12:43:03 GMT+1 jacksofbuxton http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=56#comment109 Glad I'm not alone on the "phenomenon" that is Gervais.I've always felt that if,say,Bernard Manning came up with some of the stereotyped,racist nonsense Gervais does he'd be slammed(quite rightly).Whereas Gervais is seen to be "making social commentary" or "sending up the racist".No,it's a load of old cobblers.As for Wossy.... Fri 09 Oct 2009 12:41:59 GMT+1 Starburst_995 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=56#comment108 A link to an article on the top ten richest football clubs in England according to the wealth of those who own them. You'll laugh when you see who's number one.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/6268141/Football-Rich-List-QPRs-Lakshmi-Mittal-tops-list-Roman-Abramovich-remains-third.html Fri 09 Oct 2009 12:34:14 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=55#comment107 makes him the highest spender in the league, does it?----------------------------------He is the biggest NET spender as the others have all recouped more than Benitez in sales. Fine we lost a lot of cash on Veron and a couple of others but at least we make up for that witha steady stream of young players who either make the grade or make a profit when they are sold.Apart from Robbie Fowler, Stephen Warnock, Michael Owen, Carragher & Gerrard who was teh last player to genuinely make the grade at Anfield (and you can't have Stephen Wright - (14 apps then sold) or Neil mellor - 12 apps then sold). Fri 09 Oct 2009 12:28:20 GMT+1 WhitleyBayWonTheVase http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=55#comment106 WhitleyBayI will pop along one windswept rain-soaked, icy day. Maybe in the New Year if I can drag meself away from the Big-4 slagathon! Sounds kind of grim and grand at the same time!--------------------------------------------------------Okey dokey, well let me know when you can make it and we'll have you a scarf ready. Most of us have 5-6 of them to keep us warm, so you can have one as an honourary seahorse.As for Barnes, I do hope he doesn't further sully an outstanding reputation as a player by continuing his ritual self humiliation as a manager. Apart from the fact he is clearly not cut out for it, who the hell would make Jason McAteer their trusty assistant?A masochist? Fri 09 Oct 2009 12:19:47 GMT+1 TommyO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=54#comment105 90 - it's hard to know where to begin with such a load of old pony70m net in 5 seasons ? = 18m a season including 2 seasons when G & H weren't even at the club- shows what a crock the £128m claim is btwmakes him the highest spender in the league, does it?nice little phrase that glosses over the £250-300m Chelsea spent with Ranieri/Mourinho/Grant/Scolari, or Ferguson's ability to spend £30m a time on the likes of Rooney, Ferdinand, Berbatov or when he spends £18m a time on Carrick, Anderson, Hargreaves & Nani and were you asleep this summer when the Man City went chequebook crazy ?now let's look at this 'wastage'Craig Bellamy - bought for 6m sold for 7.5mRobbie Keane - bought for 19m sold for 16mLuis Garcia (absolutely pivotal player when Liverpool won the European Cup in 2005, btw) bought for 6m sold for 4mPeter Crouch - bought for 7m sold for 11mJermaine Pennant - him - i'll give you - bought for 6.7m to a free transferthose 6 players combined = a loss of just over 6million. Ferguson lost £14m on Veron - all managers make mistakes in the transfer market - Taibi, Kleberson, the Djemba twins, Forlan spring to mind - How much of the £17m United spent on Nani will they get back when they sell him ? Fri 09 Oct 2009 12:19:16 GMT+1 davidgilmourthe3rd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=54#comment104 I " wrote " and prey tell, what is taking so long to deem it worthy of world wide publication , surely the word ******** has not breached the house rules if so i will repost and replace " ******** " with ******** in order to placate the more sensitive individuals amoung us.Up the Gunners.Shine On. Fri 09 Oct 2009 12:10:09 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=53#comment103 ooops, for Liverpool read City!! Fri 09 Oct 2009 11:59:42 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=53#comment102 91 & 93, Perfectly appropriate that you posted that twice. I'm with RBA and you. It must be tough enough playing without one sole nevermind two. Just hope this doesn't take us back down the Campbell path!84, great posts. Back in the day we got to see some of the ex Man U lads at Burnden Park. Man U, LFC and Liverpool were feeder clubs for Bolton back then, oh happy days!Grand Final weekend at OT, maybe there are a few tickets left for what might just be the best game of the season in Manchester (ok, ok, it was tongue in cheek, don't get upset) come on ye Saints! Fri 09 Oct 2009 11:59:02 GMT+1 ControlledMagic http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=52#comment101 Adam - I take your point about local companies - that is exactly the position of my cousin; he's got 4 tickets and gives them to his guys....well, occasionally me as well! Last time he did that was for the derby game and, for the record, when I left the ground (and for the next three days) I felt like someone had been running a cheese grater up and down my throat. He actually offered me 2 tickets for that game so in a nice bit of symmetry I took my old man.And Gaz - people leaving early; spot on. The same happens at Wembley and I always (cos I'm predictable) remark that I never, ever go to a match for the satisfaction of a quick drive home. I don't know why they do it. In fact, there was a particular case of 'fervent fanatic but let me be first to the bar at full time' at the derby game. We all know how that ended but just before it did....City scored - crowd pretty much silenced for a minute and despondent. This fella two rows in front stands up and turns to us all, making 'gee-up' actions with his hands and semi-shouting 'come on!!'. He then left.It must have given him enormous satisfaction, striding through the north stand tunnel to wherever he was headed with such importance, to hear the tumultuous roar as Owen netted....or perhaps he was at the bar in the Gorse Hill by then....Poetic. Fri 09 Oct 2009 11:37:18 GMT+1 davidgilmourthe3rd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=52#comment100 " but still smash my targets every month... So chill out! " hmmm i know the feeling, i bet many dont and you end up carrying them?I did when I was at a certain telecomunications centre, they always seemed to want more from those that were good and overlooked completely half the other *lonkers in my particular team.dont smash them to hard though hehe. Fri 09 Oct 2009 11:36:51 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=51#comment99 Wow, people in Aldershot have targets. Who knew? :)Great to see you do exactly ilke the rest of the working population RBA. And have a boss like Andre, which the rest have as well. Proof that there is no justice in the world when people like that continually get into positions of power.But remember you could always make a TV program about it. Pretend its funny. Pretend that the star, instead of being a complete idiot that anyone in their right mind would kill within 30 seconds of meeting him, is in fact a comedy genius. Then get 3 Americans to find it funny. Then get everyone to think that if they don't find it funny there is something wrong with them. Then have ridiculous love-ins with Jonathan Ross. Then make rubbish movies without a hint of comedy but containing all the self love thats possible. And annoy us for ever more.I may have went on a bit of a rant there but I really really don't like Gervais. Fri 09 Oct 2009 11:35:05 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=51#comment98 Adam in defence of people drinking at Southampton and Newcastle during matches... I imagine their fans need a drink whilst watching them play! Fri 09 Oct 2009 11:28:38 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=50#comment97 Gaz, According to JDR and his posse, Robbo is from the leafy home counties anyway, so robbo could already be the southern Robbo?? Who knows? And for the record, incase my senior management ever stumble upon this sight (who knows Andre could be my MD... it would explain a bit) i do more than just look at the internet... i post on blogs, email freinds, make non work calls to the missus, but still smash my targets every month... So chill out! Fri 09 Oct 2009 11:26:23 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=50#comment96 Gaz,Good point in terms of turning up late and leaving early - why do that rather then enjoy teh atmosphere and get full valus.In terms of corporate guys a lot of those are local companies that own them and allow employees like me to use them once ina while when teh MD isn't and you can get a ticket although I do get a bit riled at people who will come to teh ground sit in hospitality and drink rather than sitting outside and watching the match (I mean what's the point)and they are at every ground (spotted some at Southampton at Newcastle as well when I was in hospitality as a guest of some customers) Fri 09 Oct 2009 11:24:41 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=49#comment95 RBA - Great to hear that Aldershot is holding out against a tirade of Southern Softiness. As seemingly the only man there with a job, well someone pays you to sit and look at the internet all day, I think you should be commended that you remain living among the fat slobs. You're actually a bit like the South's version of Robbo aren't you? :)Great post from ControlledMagic. There are 2 really annoying things about OT for me. As you mentioned the corporate season ticket malarky. The amount of one match wonders that brings is just sickening, it's like a day trip to the beach to them. The quiet beach, where you just look at the topless ladies but don't scream at them. Which is pointless.The other think though is the amount of season ticket holding Mancs who think because the are from half a mile from the stadium and have a season ticket it entitles them to do what they want. Like come in after the match has started, like be an obnoxious **** throughout the match, like have a 25 minute half time break to get even more tanked up, and to leave early cos they have "to beat the traffic" even though they've never owned a car in their lives and live within spitting distance. Fri 09 Oct 2009 11:18:38 GMT+1 captainlazytim http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=48#comment94 #89 - even if they filled anfield every week and everyone bought a shirt and spent a minimum of £10 on food & say £20 in the club shop that would still only net them £70M per season which would barely cover the player & staff wage bill. - TV & Sponsorship also bring in a fair amount but again that generally goes on paying the various day-to-day costs of running teh ground, paying bills, league fees, policing costs etc so Hicks and Gillet will have had to put some of their own money into teh club to fund purchasesi agree, that fans aren't really enough, private finance is vital. all i'm saying is that the wages aren't obscene in the context of the game overall, and the money within it. Fri 09 Oct 2009 11:14:31 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=48#comment93 OK redpreacherman as you posted it twice i re read 25 and get your, totally awesome, fish puns... It was a rather Coy post no Trout about it, had me Perch-ed on the edge od my seat though, i'll be sure to Tuna in to the next blog to see if he posts again. Fin. Fri 09 Oct 2009 11:06:47 GMT+1 redpreacherman http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/10/sign_of_the_chimes.html?page=47#comment92 Just signed in and sorry to carp.25 smells fishy to me and I wonder if it presages the Premier League ending up like a beached whale? Fri 09 Oct 2009 10:53:40 GMT+1