Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html en-gb 30 Sun 13 Jul 2014 17:20:40 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html invershneckie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=99#comment211 Locks aren't particularly heavy...it's the props who keep getting bigger and heavier all the time.But otherwise, good article as always. Thu 27 Aug 2009 23:38:27 GMT+1 Jason Burton http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=99#comment210 ....and they are at it again.....Brilliant!Never saw that coming, because obviously all the mindless thugery is now apparently only present on the rugby pitch.In the words of my nine year old daughter and in appropriately childish fashion......Whatever!Robbo....feel free to blog again if you can manage to take you foot out of you mouth and your head from somewhere dark and unpleasant! Wed 26 Aug 2009 22:05:27 GMT+1 Irishtime http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=98#comment209 Surprise surprise, football ONCE AGAIN showing it's true colours... Wed 26 Aug 2009 09:47:56 GMT+1 Boyo1981 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=98#comment208 Sorry to say this but football fan stabbed before a match AGAIN...West Ham Vs Millwall....sad to hear.....and some people seem to think the thugs are on the rugby pitch.......disgusting behaviour!!! Tue 25 Aug 2009 21:32:07 GMT+1 Feel The Magic http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=97#comment207 One blames the parents Mon 24 Aug 2009 11:47:44 GMT+1 Bob T http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=97#comment206 Quick point, drunkenrugby - when you say "lets see how long it is before another footie player gets caught in a gang bang, dealing coke,...", why did Lawrence Dallaglio resign from the England rugby captaincy? Mon 24 Aug 2009 10:03:56 GMT+1 stellamike http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=96#comment205 Robbo , have a quick re-read of your comments ref United and feel free to edit them . It will be an open league this year , but I don't see much incursion into the "Big Four " by other teams . I'm a Red , but I hope City do well this year , but my main worry will be Arsenal , who look to be more balanced this time . Whoever wins it , I think it will be an exceptional year . Sun 23 Aug 2009 20:14:07 GMT+1 aries22 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=96#comment204 It's good that Dean Richards has been banned for three years. If we're going to call so-called "rugby players" like Schalk Burger, we have to be seen to be cleaning up our own game. Richards has admitted to doing this same blood replacement thing on three previous occasions and not been found out. Why, Dean? What's the point? Why can't you just play the game fairly and squarely? "It's a professional game now where any advantage is fair ans square"? No Dean, it's cheating, pure and simple. Sun 23 Aug 2009 17:35:24 GMT+1 Irishtime http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=95#comment203 Robbo, let's have a look at what happens in football - a sport which has been 'professional' for much longer than rugby has, and should surely be leading the way in sportsmanship or the 'spirit of the game'. Before you have another rant about rugby and its consistent 'rule bending', heres a list of some things which happen on a regular occurrence in professional football and 'scandals' which have tarnished the sport . Diving, feigning injury to get a player booked, 'professional fouls', time wasting, spitting, missing drugs test, failing drugs tests, match fixing, intimidation of officials, verbally and physically abusing officials, conning the ref when a clear goal has been scored, horrendous tackling i.e two footed challenges...Football, one of the oldest sports of the professional era, has been repeatedly brought into disrepute and has failed to 'clean up its act' and become an example to other professional sports. While rugby, which is in it's infancy in terms of 'professional sport' has broken the rules a few of times over the last year or so and your now trying to put it in the same league as football? Rugby Union is even making drastic rule changes so something like the 'fake blood' incident won't happen again, this wouldn't happen in football because of it's stubbornness and stupidity (goal line technology, giving 10 yards when a ref is questioned, sin bin etc etc). Let's see how Rugby Union reacts to these 'scandals' over the next year before you jump the gun...because football has never, and never will, learn from it's mistakes. Sat 22 Aug 2009 10:35:42 GMT+1 AJ_Crank http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=95#comment202 ""I get right hacked off with the idea that 'cos the bloke's at United his England career will suddenly be on the up"" - Finally! Someone talking sense about Owen!! What is it with the English media (and some fans), that they hype average players up, above and beyond anything nearing realism, just because they are English?! You already have plenty of talent in the squad......you don't need to call up has-beens or journeymen! Owen is RUBBISH, alright?? Don't argue.....don't even think about it - he's crap, end of. Even at his best he was overrated - for a finish up, at Liverpool, for every goal he scored he missed three easy chances. I laughed all day when I heard United signed him - it was almost as funny as his 'brochure'.Anyway, good work Robbo, nice to see someone bring a bit of sense to the table, for a change. Sat 22 Aug 2009 01:12:54 GMT+1 MouthoftheTyne http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=94#comment201 Face liked a smacked a**e did Sir Alex have - worth a whole season in the Championship just to see it. Good luck lads - pleasue is where you find it! Sat 22 Aug 2009 01:02:48 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=94#comment200 Sod it all, who needs football when you haveBALL IN A CUP! Fri 21 Aug 2009 23:02:50 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=93#comment199 Can you imagine Wayne Rooney if guns were legal? Fri 21 Aug 2009 22:58:13 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=93#comment198 Plainly they don't. Fri 21 Aug 2009 22:53:46 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=92#comment197 This post has been Removed Fri 21 Aug 2009 22:38:58 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=92#comment196 They pay people to mod this at this time of the night st the weekend? Fri 21 Aug 2009 22:36:27 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=91#comment195 Zoot,If you've been arrested once it means you're immune, surely. Fri 21 Aug 2009 22:09:55 GMT+1 Zootmac http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=91#comment194 BeyondThePaleJust in, and reading your stuff here and on the Chris Charles blog. Brilliantly written, anarchic and wild.You'll eventually be arrested, of course. And I'm not implying that I agree with everything you say. But, right now, I'm creasing myself.Now, get to your bed before you do any more damage. Fri 21 Aug 2009 21:41:07 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=91#comment193 Now I'm going to watch Bea get kicked out of Big Brother - it may be pish, but it's the only democracy we have left. Fri 21 Aug 2009 19:39:28 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=90#comment192 Trotter,I have always been of the opinion re: "The Lockerbie Bomber" (he does have a name) that it was a tit for tat thing - we bombed someone, they bombed someone.Neither was right and it was all politics.As usual, it's the s**t like us who have to pay for it and wail in the press when our/their families are wronged while the governments do deals.Waste of time apart from the inevitable public outcry.Rather talk about how crap Man Utd are, frankly. Fri 21 Aug 2009 19:37:02 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=90#comment191 BTP Excellent, you've restored my faith in the British justice system (although there seems to be an air of discontent among the yanks that the Lockerbie Bomber has been "compassionately" set free). Fri 21 Aug 2009 19:23:03 GMT+1 Ichi_1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=89#comment190 "Yeah, it sure is a real shame that rugby union fans don't feel the pain of defeat and go out and riot after they lose and/or stab opposition fans"Oh yeh caus that happens on a weekly basis. And i think youll find the riots and stabbings happen to OUR fans when they go abroad. We cant be held accountable for how the italians and turkish act.Last time i checked a football fan had never celebrated a victory like this:http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article191436.eceI think youll find rubgy fans are hardly whiter than white anyway. One quick search and ive already found thse recent incidents: http://www.scrum.com/europeanchallenge/rugby/image/96153.htmlhttp://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/27/1080330987022.htmlSo thats fighting, children being attacked and allegations of gangrape. Gentlemens game my backside Fri 21 Aug 2009 19:18:00 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=89#comment189 And here he is:http://yfrog.com/15kyrganj(btw, Trotter you're right - he was locked up for kicking the ***t out of a 16 year old kid while p***ed outside Maccy Dees). Fri 21 Aug 2009 18:19:29 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=88#comment188 er, Bruiser, I may well be mistaken but I don't think Joey Barton was imprisoned for a punch-up on the training ground. Fri 21 Aug 2009 18:06:13 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=88#comment187 He's got to be known as "The Kyrgan", surely? Fri 21 Aug 2009 18:03:55 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=87#comment186 Anyway, enough about boring rugby - it's all a bit gay anyway.What about Soti Kyrgiakos for £2m? I think that's a hell of a buy for £2m - we were well short of experience with Sami choosing to move on yet we've picked up a huge lunatic for pennies! Fri 21 Aug 2009 18:00:45 GMT+1 ClaridgeforPM http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=87#comment185 This post has been Removed Fri 21 Aug 2009 17:59:23 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=86#comment184 Bruiser,It's not double standards - it's the old class thing.(And before anyone mentions Gerrard, I'm more than happy to put my hands up as a Liverpool fan and suggest that the judge may well have had a bag of LFC goodies waiting to be signed for his grandkids). Fri 21 Aug 2009 17:30:23 GMT+1 allezdae http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=86#comment183 Double standards between rugby and football annoy me: a training ground punch up, and there are usually a few every now and then in every sport, is rightly regarded as horrific in football, the players getting banned and censured (and in the case of Barton imprisoned). In rugby, it's "character building". Fri 21 Aug 2009 17:22:14 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=85#comment182 Why can't they be like Lady GaGa and just admit it? Fri 21 Aug 2009 17:03:36 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=85#comment181 It puzzled me too. An 8 week test. Surely if she/he dropped her shorts we'd have the answer but apparently that's not the case. Does it mean all 5 or 6 billion of us need to have a more thorough test? Does it mean that the delivery room shriek of "it's a boy" or "it's a girl" now becomes "we'll let you know in 2 months" ? Things used to be so much more straightforward. Fri 21 Aug 2009 16:56:27 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=84#comment180 There must be some shocking waste in the athletics system - they're talking about it being weeks before they can deduce whether Caster's a man or not.Why don't they just keep an eye on which lavs s/he goes to? Fri 21 Aug 2009 16:49:11 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=84#comment179 BTP, that's brilliant, you should sell that one to The Sun! Fri 21 Aug 2009 16:23:28 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=83#comment178 And the best one,A Secret Man Yes Fri 21 Aug 2009 16:12:42 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=83#comment177 Scary meat seen Fri 21 Aug 2009 16:03:51 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=83#comment176 Necessary Meat Fri 21 Aug 2009 15:54:52 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=82#comment175 based purely on hearsay of course! Fri 21 Aug 2009 15:28:40 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=82#comment174 how did you come to that conclusion? Fri 21 Aug 2009 15:19:16 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=81#comment173 something along the lines of .....RACY SEMEN SEAT.....but probably more subtle. Fri 21 Aug 2009 15:13:45 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=81#comment172 I heard that when wikipedia need to find something out... they look up Zootmac. Fri 21 Aug 2009 15:09:26 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=80#comment171 In moments from now I fully expect Zoot to post a suitable anagram of Caster's full name, possibly even including the middle names that none of us mortals even know about. Fri 21 Aug 2009 15:06:34 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=80#comment170 Ok enough of the Caster Semenya jokes, this cock and ball story has be going on schlong enough, the whole things nuts. Fri 21 Aug 2009 14:50:02 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=79#comment169 Caster Semenya for Man Of The Year?She'd have some balls to accept it.Literally. Fri 21 Aug 2009 14:38:27 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=79#comment168 What's the good word Robbo? Will it still be Ponting for the OSPOY or might Usain Bolt have nicked it? I think Zoot, RBA and Gaz deserve the domestic honours! RBA just has to fart and people take notice. Fri 21 Aug 2009 14:07:06 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=78#comment167 159: I feel i have to question your use of the word "litteraly". I mean, come on thier must be something else to do... surely... unless you slipped in to some twighlight zone type situation where all you can do is read Robbo's blog over and over and over and over and over... Ah well thiers, usually a moral to be learnt somewhere if that is the case? (this drivel was litteraly promoted by the licence fee's of good, honest, hard working people...) Fri 21 Aug 2009 14:06:24 GMT+1 WhitleyBayWonTheVase http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=78#comment166 #157 - a block of portable toilets. It was the FA Vase we won, not the FA Cup. Mind you, rumour has it we might even get a new stand before long. Life is good, eh. Fri 21 Aug 2009 14:01:00 GMT+1 Zootmac http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=77#comment165 163, 164, 165Outrageous. Absolutely outrageous. I hope that my licence fee isn't being used to promote this drivel. Fri 21 Aug 2009 13:59:20 GMT+1 TrotterUSA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=77#comment164 159Dave, do you live in Middlesbrough too? Fri 21 Aug 2009 13:51:39 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=76#comment163 Toilet traders? Fri 21 Aug 2009 13:38:14 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=76#comment162 fart Fri 21 Aug 2009 13:38:11 GMT+1 Zootmac http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=75#comment161 159 CothamDave, I've read your posting 517 times now. I wish I could help. Fri 21 Aug 2009 13:38:10 GMT+1 Zootmac http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=75#comment160 156, 157, 158 Gaz, Vase and Clean Sheets DanMORE toilet humour? What's happening here? Fri 21 Aug 2009 13:25:23 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=75#comment159 Cotham,It's always fun to watch the humourless in action, sucking the life from the net on a Friday afternoon. Fri 21 Aug 2009 13:16:43 GMT+1 Dave H http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=74#comment158 I still can't see the point in Robbo's blog, I only read it because there is literally nothing else to do. Fri 21 Aug 2009 13:11:46 GMT+1 dannytrfc http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=74#comment157 You’re always going to get rugby fans on a football blog moaning with football fans defending their sport and vice versa. I’m with you Robbo; both could be better, both could be worse!7pts out of 9, 3 clean sheets out of 3, I’m guessing you won’t let us have Danny Coyne back then? Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:56:23 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=73#comment156 Do you mean one of those rim-block things or a real block of toilets?! Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:55:26 GMT+1 WhitleyBayWonTheVase http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=73#comment155 Gaz, well I have just looked at the aforementioneds post history and now chastise myself for having bothered even giving a reply.A stream of United-hating, even with the odd little poem thrown in.My weekend is looking good anyway - home to Shildon with an excellent record against them and we're unbeaten this season (and got through an FA Cup Prelim replay mid-week). I'm forecasting 3-0, a sticky can of diet coke and a new flag for my daughter.We're getting a new toilet block too. Thats what winning the Vase does for you! Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:51:31 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=72#comment154 Whitley you will find that unless you say Fergie is the anti-christ and should be hung, drawn, quartered and then brought back to life and hung again you will be accused by certain sections of being a United fan. Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:47:01 GMT+1 WhitleyBayWonTheVase http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=72#comment153 #151 - I'm a football fan who admires the football of Man United, but no more than I admire the management of Mr Wenger and the style with which his club plays.I'm a fan of the strength and power in Chelseas game and the will and determination demonstrated by successive Liverpool sides in recent years.However, my loyalty lies firmly in the non-league and with one club. It doesn't stop my having an opinion on quite how anyone could intimate that SAF has never had to 'manage' though. Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:41:30 GMT+1 peteralanhirst http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=71#comment152 Good blog but I cannot believe Richards has been banned for three years and Burger got a six game ban for blatent eye-gouging.... which is the worst offence? Surely the administrators should protect players against malicious and potentially career ending injury rather than cheating the rules on substitutions... Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:37:05 GMT+1 rjaggar http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=71#comment151 I was wondering whether you were going to muse about whether football will take note from athletics and get Sir Alex to demand a replay because one of his players tripped and fell over in the first half after having their heel clipped by a young inexperienced little whipper-snapper?Or whether there's anyone in the Premier League who needs a intelligence test? Especially if they might win the League aged 18?? Because it wouldn't be fair if someone of superior intelligence was allowed to play football, would it??They clearly taught the cricketeers to say how great they are off the pitch, when the performance on it is somewhat less glorious to recall......Perhaps they could just do with getting off our screens for a few weeks longer - I'm not ready for a new season yet and I'm sure loads of others aren't either. Rum stuff, the water on Teesside, mate.....take this missive with the large mountain of Anglesey salt that I'm sure you always do! Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:35:52 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=70#comment150 "Congratulations on posting the most ridiculous comment I have ever seen on a Robbo Blog."Not nearly as ridiculous as pretending you're not a Man Utd fan. Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:34:09 GMT+1 WhitleyBayWonTheVase http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=70#comment149 "Mr. Feguson may have to actually manage this year, instead of dipping into the Glazer's deep pockets and buying a goal-scorer."--------------------------------------------------------Congratulations on posting the most ridiculous comment I have ever seen on a Robbo Blog. Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:32:01 GMT+1 ospreysboyo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=69#comment148 The day rugby players chase referees from the pitch and verbally and physically assault them, or the fans at a rugby match cause a riot in the streets, kill a copper with a bomb, cause a Heysel disaster, murder opposing fans, or need to be seperated in such a serious way that a Hillsborough disaster can be allowed to happen, then you guys can take the moral high ground! Face it, football is a joke nowadays, dont label all of rugby as cheats, it was only two stupid ENGLISH clubs who have done any thing wrong! Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:30:37 GMT+1 Rick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=69#comment147 As a rugby player (a lie I suppose as I decided to retire at the end of last season but can't bring myself to say "retired rugby player" yet) who also enjoys watching football I think a lot of you are missing the point.What Deano did was disgraceful and it does mean that the "high horse" that rugby players/fans like to take regarding play acting in footbal has been taken away from us a little.However, the difference between rugby and footbal is that he has been banned from coaching for 3 seasons. Can you imagine SAF being banned for managing the Gelled Tumbler and his theatrics (just a single example I know lots of others dive, including Gerrard who most England fans, like myself, pretend we haven't noticed diving to get penalties). Some football managers seem to have disciplined sides (e.g. Brian Clough, Steve Coppell even) but others seem to have sides which are notorious for having divers. The managers continue to pick those players and even defend them to the press. This is not much diffent (but admittedly a little less farcical) than the "bloodgate" fiasco.As for the rugby fans who rose to the "minority sport" remark, wind your necks in a bit. Robbo even indicated he was typing it to upset people. And compared to football in many ways it is a minority sport, for example if you look at fan numbers turning up to big matches, or numbers willing to sit up until midnight watching MOTD on a Saturday night (how many would watch a rugby show at that time?). However, there are also more people who drive Fiats than Ferraris...... Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:20:29 GMT+1 Zootmac http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=68#comment146 144 BeyondthePale: I'm trying to think of something else which would have rhymed with "Mancs". I can see your problem. As you suggest, the moderators might have pulled it; which would have been invigorating, if nothing else. Nonetheless, congratulations on producing posting 144 without it being gross.145 Gaz: As well as placating Joe and JFC, there is the encouraging possibility that Robbo's fortitudes might be more impressive than Nelson's column. Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:20:12 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=68#comment145 I notice Lucas has been called up to the Brazil squad for the WCQs against Argentina and Chile.No Anderson, though.Hmmm. Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:15:58 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=67#comment144 Zoot the only way you will placate Joe and Jesus is if you hang Robbo upside down by his fortitudes in the middle of Trafalgar Square and make him repeat ad-nauseum "I cannot write and am not funny". Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:10:59 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=67#comment143 Zoot,It would have ended with something else, but I erred on the side of not being moderated. Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:10:40 GMT+1 mdb500 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=66#comment142 Well Robbo, this is the best blog you've ever written and it's absolute tosh. How on earth you get paid for poor puns and sniping at SIR Alex week in week out I will never understand. At least you slagged off Rugby (I detest the game myself) but even that didn't seem particularly well written. So well done.I have to say that the massive chip you have on your shoulder about Manchester United is dwarfed only by the monumentally execrable quality of your writing. Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:01:49 GMT+1 Zootmac http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=66#comment141 Gaz - I was just trying to up the standard, on the off chance of placating Joe and JFC. BeyondthePale was doing well with his poem, until it ended with "Armitage Shanks". He's never going to get Poet Laureate with toilet humour. Fri 21 Aug 2009 12:01:18 GMT+1 Wolves4CL http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=66#comment140 #92 - Interesting that you should compare Robbo with Rod Liddle of all people. I had the dubious pleasure of sharing some school time with Rod - who was at least as objectionable then as he is now - in a town called Guisborough, which is about 10 miles from Robboboro! Fri 21 Aug 2009 11:57:26 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=65#comment139 Zoot are you suggesting that some people here actually have brains? Fri 21 Aug 2009 11:51:10 GMT+1 Zootmac http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=65#comment138 A class blog with some class reponses.Webbers of the world unite. We have nothing to lose but our brains. Fri 21 Aug 2009 11:43:20 GMT+1 spurs_happy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=64#comment137 Rugby is a good sport for people who like to watch butch, built up people trying to hurt eachother to get the bloody ball, like brothers and sisters having a fight, you can tell rugby was invented by school children.As for the footy, spurs first - :0 - oh my god, who would have thought. And Defoe top scorer. Robbo's prediction of us in forth is becoming more and more right.Well done to the burnley on beating Man United. Fri 21 Aug 2009 11:24:44 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=64#comment136 "he decides to laugh at Manchester United losing to a hard working and industrious Burnley team"To be fair to him, so are everyone else.And McFans can refer to the "hard working and industrious Burnley team" all they like - it isn't detracting from the FACKT that Manc Untied are pish without their best player, have a comedy midfield and a lazy £30m striker and have scored one goal against two newly promoted sides.Mr Ferguson will have his camp bed set up in the OT lavs already. Fri 21 Aug 2009 11:18:50 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=63#comment135 Robbo mate, enjoyabe as ever sir... Cor it's got some reaction though aint it... For me rugby is just a bit dull... though i can see alot you are very passionate about it... fair dues, what ever floats your boat. But... some of the comments on here are at an almost breath taking level of pettiness... Bravo to you! Very entertaining reading, you rugger chaps are as bad as the northern reds who occupy these comments most times out. Joe and Jesus, surely a Statler and Waldorf for the interweb generation... Beyond the Pale... As an avid hiphop fan (old school only), may i be the first to deliver "props" for your "sick bars"! "mandem merked it, get me?" John Barnes would be very proud! Fri 21 Aug 2009 11:16:18 GMT+1 The Trawler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=63#comment134 133: He can have an opinion on whatever he likesBut if the headline to this blog was about Gareth Southgate being the best looking man in Middlesborough would you give a flying watsit? Fri 21 Aug 2009 11:12:15 GMT+1 GenesisRed http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=62#comment133 "His link up play has never been world class but now that he's lost a yard (or 3) of pace he's finished."If he was as sharp as he will be soon, he would have two goals in two games. Because of his link up play. You do remember the link up with Rooney against Brum don't you? We haven't had two strikers linking up like that in far too long. Sure, the opposition hasn't been great, but if he can stay fit he'll get his sharpness back and be banging the goals in Fri 21 Aug 2009 11:07:21 GMT+1 Dazz0r http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=62#comment132 8. At 3:51pm on 20 Aug 2009, WaxyGodfather wrote:I'm also shocked that instead of focusing on his own team (although lets face facts who would want to focus on Middlesborough) he decides to laugh at Manchester United losing to a hard working and industrious Burnley team.----------------------Are you suggesting people can only have an opinion about the team they support? It's lucky you're not in charge around here, what a dull place it would be!As for Rugby being so fantastic, I always thought it was played by gentleman and supported by gentlemen, but after you're little petty outburst I'm not so sure... your reply what that of a football supporter! Fri 21 Aug 2009 11:06:46 GMT+1 The Trawler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=61#comment131 This post has been Removed Fri 21 Aug 2009 11:03:05 GMT+1 5europeancups05 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=61#comment130 Well done Burnley! You have shown the nation what we already know; Man Utd have the weakest team, by far the weakest midfield and the weakest squad out of the top 4 teams. Mr Ferguson has made a massive mistake in thinking that Owen and Valencia can replace Ronaldo, and that Scholes, Neville and Giggs are still world class. Scousers everywhere are hoping they never retire or move on."Michael Owen looks for all the world like a kitten in concrete boots" His link up play has never been world class but now that he's lost a yard (or 3) of pace he's finished. This is exactly why he's been consistently overlooked by all the top managers. Except for Ferguson. He's so arrogant he thinks everyone else has missed a bargain! Will it still be a bargain when his dire hold up and link play costs them points? Imagine it was level when Owen missed his sitter against Birmingham. If Owen is recalled to England, Capello will lose all respect in my eyes. Inept performances which include a scuffed tap in goal after he's already missed a couple of sitters should not be enough. Neither should signing for the mancs. Fri 21 Aug 2009 10:24:09 GMT+1 FanOfRealFootball http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=60#comment129 In todays society, where recycling is looked upon with great creditation. I'm not so sure the recycling of the blog audiences comments from yesterday as this blog today should be taken as a late version of what the footballing blog should have been yesterday or just lazyness.Great comeback tho. Just too bad it wasn't inspired by the blog writers themselves. Fri 21 Aug 2009 10:09:41 GMT+1 BeyondThePale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=60#comment128 Poor Old Fergie, lost the plot,Sold his best player for quite a lot.Can't buy quality, the owners have said,They need the cash for a new coat of red.All the best players have turned them down,Just a crock from Newcastle and a Wigan clown,And a Frenchman with Stewie off Family Guy's head,Champions League? No, Europa instead.Struggled against Brummies, beaten by Burnley,Is everyone writing them off too early?I doubt it, the quality's way, way off.And they spent all their cash on that joke Berbatov.Still let's not be gloating, let's pity the Mancs -Their boss will be hiding with the Armitage Shanks. Fri 21 Aug 2009 10:09:17 GMT+1 MUSTAPHAGO http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=59#comment127 ROBBO.....You relly should know better than to start mocking His royal Fergieness at this stage of the season, as we all know that the premiership trophy will still be in the cabinet at Gold Trafford in May but you can dream for a few months and keep the hopes of the alternates in London and North Wales overspill alive....Pipe Dreams...me old son.. Fri 21 Aug 2009 09:54:49 GMT+1 WarnockG90 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=59#comment126 betsyboy - you talk about changing rules in rugby to allow the blood incidents to continue is total nonsense.Your backup of this argument is to say they changed the rules to allow lifting in the lineout? Thats a farce. All, bar a few, rule changes in rugby have been to benefit the game and to make it cleaner and tidier and more fast-paced. Prior to that rule-change we had guys just jumping all over the place scrambling around for the ball and it was luck who came away with it. At least now teams have a good chance of keeping possession from their own throw in.If anyone thinks the IRB would allow blood feigning to continue they need a reality check. Fri 21 Aug 2009 09:51:25 GMT+1 GenesisRed http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=58#comment125 "and being outplayed for 90mins" look at the stats before you talk such nonsense - United had 18 shots to Burnley's 5, 13 corners to their 1. Possession was 62% United, 38% Burnley.Their keeper got man of the match. It says it all.It was a great result for Burnley and for the league. It is good for them to get their tails up, meaning they'll take it to the other teams too. Sure, United were a bit slow (thanks to Carrick) but to say the result was a fair depiction of the game as a whole is just daft. But that's why we love football, because of results like this. Fri 21 Aug 2009 09:44:01 GMT+1 WarnockG90 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=58#comment124 I am not too shocked by any of this as rule-bending and cheating to certain extents are probably present in a large number of professional sports - look at diving, time-wasting etc in football and even in rugby the Neil Back incident tapping the ball into Leicester's scrum in the Heineken Cup years ago.Its a bit unfortunate that Deano thought the best course of action was to cover it all up. It has tarnished some formally good people's reputations.I think since the introduction of professionalism in rugby it has moved from the 'gentleman's game' into a situation where people will do whatever it takes to win.As an amatuer player I find this idea pretty disappointing Fri 21 Aug 2009 09:38:22 GMT+1 spdgodofcheese http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=58#comment123 To be fair, I think the Burnley match was a great result not just for Burnley, but for all these reporters in the tabloids who would have given more type space to Wayne Rooney scoring his 100th goal, had he scored!It was a great game, with the champions clearly resting on their laurels and reputation( much like Liverpool in the 80's), and being outplayed for 90mins. I hope this is the start of a varied and exciting league, with there being more new teams to report on other than the big 4. As for the rugby, I am naive to how a mouth full of blood can be constituted as cheating, but it's nothing like the cheating we witness in the premier league on a near daily basis.... Fri 21 Aug 2009 09:35:04 GMT+1 paul hewson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=57#comment122 at last, someone mentions what has been going on in the world of rugby.Can you imagine the fall out if this had happened in football.The weird thing is that apparently this isnt the first time the fake blood injury has happened.Rugby union has lived off this public sector high morals stance for years, looking down at the corrupt game of football.Bowyer and Dyer have a girly fight on the pitch at St James Park and the police get involved, whilst eye gouging goes on every week in rugby union and nothing happens.Double standards. Fri 21 Aug 2009 09:31:46 GMT+1 bentyger http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=57#comment121 It's nice to see a journalist sticking to what he knows. Honestly,how can you even contemplate claiming the moral high ground? I guess the shock of seeing footballers in court every other week has completeley worn off. Riots trashing cities mean nothing too you. You say rugby is about bending the rules, yet every time a football player has the ball and gets tackled,he tries to get the other player sent off-look at the likes of Drogba! I'm sure you can think of a million excuses for diving,but you shouldn't have too.Look to your own sport before knocking ours,for every 1 rugby incident like this,there are 20 football incidents.I'd agree football is a good game,and the majority are well behaved and just there for the crack.But there is an inherent problem in the game of football,even the managers squabble and bicker like children,there's no respect for the opposition,the ref,or even themselves.It must be a nice change for you to hear about another sport for a change,instead of fans being stabbed,players destroying cars,beating up their wives,raceist chanting.All in all,this "article" has more to do with your own prejudice than any coherant argument. The la-di-da comment shows that in abundance,go to Wales, Scotland or Ireland,see if the situation there backs up your vitriolic comments. Even you must realise you're talking out of your backside.I guess a big,nasty rugby player must have stolen your lollipop, because you sound very bitter. Jump on the bandwagon though,feel free. A poor piece of journalism,I could have done better, and so could my nine year old,at least he'd be subjective. Fri 21 Aug 2009 09:24:05 GMT+1 morphey00 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=56#comment120 At least someone in rugby has thought up an intelligent way of cheating as opposed to diving around like a bunch of girls!Man utd to come 5th this year, chelsea to run away with the prem.and more importantly, boro to demolish the champo without conceeding all year, maybe a league,league cup and fa cup treble to boot!!! Fri 21 Aug 2009 09:24:03 GMT+1 yajustdonsavethose http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=56#comment119 "In fact I have to say I get right hacked off with the idea that 'cos the bloke's at United his England career will suddenly be on the up. Jermain Defoe must be laughing into his mineral water with Spurs being top. (Top four side this year, I tells ya.) "great start for us but you cant seriosuly expect us to finsih top 4! Fri 21 Aug 2009 09:12:25 GMT+1 Dannyoco http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=55#comment118 This post has been Removed Fri 21 Aug 2009 08:59:09 GMT+1 GenesisRed http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=55#comment117 mediocre blog today, but then i guess there's no news. I'll rise to the "Burnley's hammering of Man U" nonsense and the unnecessarily dig at Union being minority only to say that i guess you had to say something to get people to post comments else it would look as dull as it was.Better of not blogging if you've got nothing to say.Surely something about the young keeper from Ipswich who has hung up his boots at 22. Clearly someone who, unlike you, won't keep doing something just for the money. Fri 21 Aug 2009 08:51:02 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=54#comment116 Robbo would it be safe to say that you get even more abuse when you question rubgy than when you say anything bad about United?I think the only thing that might come close is if you say something bad about the Pool. Give it a try next week. Go on, I double dare you! Fri 21 Aug 2009 08:12:26 GMT+1 nakedirishman http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=54#comment115 " 105. At 11:01pm on 20 Aug 2009, barcelonatangerine wrote:NakedIrishman,I agree with most of what you said-until you mentioned feigning injury.Isn´t feigning injury the main gist of this Blog?"Absolutely! And that's why this incident has shocked the rugby world (even if only to shake some of us out of rose tinted view of our professional game). At the end of the day, rugby culture is not accepting of feigning injury and we take pride in our ability to handle knocks. Even if hurting, we get up and play on and try to show nothing to our opponent. Rugby fans everywhere want this behaviour rooted out of our game in case we slide towards the acceptance of the "anything goes to win" attitude that we see more of in football.And I do love footie as well! But I get embarrassed every time I see a player stay down for the slightest of knocks, pretend to be hit in the face or wave his imaginary card to the ref. What's more, football could sort this out overnight if they allowed punishments to be made retrospectively for unsporting behaviour/cheating. Incidentally, I think rugby (to a lesser degree) could also implement such an approach even if it "detracts from the authority of the ref" as both sports claim to fear. Fri 21 Aug 2009 08:12:06 GMT+1 chancey1980 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=53#comment114 I know this is a blog, but surely you still have a duty to be slightly objective with your opinions. This is nothing more than a rant - for reasons you only know. I am working class and grew up in Portsmouth. I love football, rugby, cricket, you name it! why fuel inter-sport animosity? they are not mutually exclusive. Fri 21 Aug 2009 07:27:49 GMT+1 poshseagull http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=53#comment113 A good article. I enjoyed it. But speaking as someone who went to a posh "public" school where they played football (rugby being regarded as a game for plankheads), I'd point out that the Corinthian spirit is based on the Association, not the Rugby code. Fri 21 Aug 2009 06:30:18 GMT+1 Harry_Potts http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/08/gentlemen_of_ill_repute.html?page=52#comment112 Anyone who calls football "wendyball" has immediately lost my respect. I actually like Union - and League for that matter, and as others have said, when you get a good bit of hanky panky (to quote Bill McLaren) it is quite entertaining. Why does this effort of an individual continue to blog about subjects he knows nothing about? Fri 21 Aug 2009 06:16:50 GMT+1