Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html en-gb 30 Fri 28 Aug 2015 23:30:11 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html R Nair http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=99#comment344 Robbo, do you remember the days before and after the War, when the phrase "Bank of England club" was used to describe the club with the greatest financial clout?http://footballinsights.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/manchester-city-the-new-bank-of-england-club/ Thu 30 Jul 2009 15:26:52 GMT+1 jam tomorrow http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=99#comment343 This post has been Removed Wed 29 Jul 2009 19:49:42 GMT+1 jam tomorrow http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=99#comment342 I see this nonsense is still here.So lets get this straight, a Boro fan opens up a page for all and sundry to take cheap shots at Manchester City and then leaves it as a permanent fixture on the City page, nice work unbiased BBC!!So would the same thing happen on the Man Utd page, well of course not because even though Fergie wont speak to the beeb you lot fall over yourselves praising him and his club.Well when Cameron gets in the days of you lot free loading may be over so enjoy the money for old rope whilst it lasts. Mon 27 Jul 2009 12:11:26 GMT+1 Jimmy2Times http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=98#comment341 good piece robbo but i must contest the line about joe cole. when he has been fit he has always been in and among the side, a fact born by his chelsea player of the year award in 2007-08. even under mourinho he was a big part of the team, although mourinho left him out on occasion to teach him lessons on being a team player instead of a brazillian one man team!!!! Sat 25 Jul 2009 15:48:48 GMT+1 jam tomorrow http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=98#comment340 This post has been Removed Fri 24 Jul 2009 11:35:50 GMT+1 Blue for you city http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=98#comment339 339 You could argue that the Glazers had a big investment into AIG which was taken over by The US Government.The US Government are arguing about paying the 28million dollars to United for AIG Sponsorship.Are MUFC now really owned by President Obama.As financial experts say United are 1 bad season away from being a Lehmans Brothers or AIG.The money for Ronaldo is going to pay off the 5 layer debts of the Glazers. Tue 21 Jul 2009 12:03:01 GMT+1 jordanuk90MUFC http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=97#comment338 Liverpool defaulted on their loanRBS give them an extension rather than taking them into administrationRBS is 70% public owned - a failed bank because of sub-prime lendingAs Liverpool has proven it can't repay the money, is this sub-prime?And - as this is using public money.Do the public own LFC?------------------------------------------------------------If so my vote goes to get rid of the club hahaha Mon 20 Jul 2009 12:46:46 GMT+1 hongkong_fuee http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=97#comment337 I think it's hard to take a stance against city's spending unless you believe the strangle hold the top 4 teams currently have on the premiership is a good thing. That is unless your already a bias pundit. There was never any where near as much fuss when chelsea splashed the cash and that was only because the big wigs knew their place the champions league was still safe. Now they know along with aston villa and everton (if either of them recreate a similar season to last) city pose a serious threat. It would be nice to stop hearing people moan about the money and actually looking forward to some close games next season. Sun 19 Jul 2009 20:52:57 GMT+1 mcfcMeLLA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=97#comment336 Rubbish Sun 19 Jul 2009 11:57:40 GMT+1 praky69 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=97#comment335 love your blogs..always hits the right stop.."solarsystemicos" and tevez as a dark version of Alice in Wonderland are priceless. thanks for the blog.. lol:D Sun 19 Jul 2009 00:28:24 GMT+1 EricDantona http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=96#comment334 To post #279 (approximately post #200 to be credited to this idiot) - Can we not have you banned from posting here as well? That would be swell. You're spamming, provoking and displaying prejudism time after time, all without managing to make a single comment that is relevant to the discussion.How many breaches of the House Rules are required to remove bottom-feeding trolls from the swamp? Fri 17 Jul 2009 16:36:19 GMT+1 gorgeousninja http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=96#comment333 re sam_red_galapagosOverheard in grotty little tenement a mere scud missiles throw from anfield"Sammy dear its teatime""oh mummy I'm having such fun I've been playing on the BBC website bloggy thing all day, I'm a real proper journo... journa.. writer! And I've managed to upset just about everyone on there with my constant pointless inanity. Someone called Robbo whose blog it is, was talking about Man City but said something amusing about Mr Rafa, so I decided to start going on and on and on about Manchester United, I even called Sir Alex Ferguson a doddery old fool...aren't I clever??Yes dear, because someone said something humorous about the boss of the football club you like, you disrespect, and insult the most successful football manger in the history of the game thereby bringing shame upon yourself your family, and your club. Oh don't start mummy thats what they keep saying! I'm being a WUM its great! It means Weely Useless Muppet or something, but basically means that I have a vastly inflated ego and to compensate for lacking basic social skills I think posting my witless drivel is actually funny.Well its time for your bedtime young man. I've put out your favorite pyjamas, the red silky ones that you scribbled 'Livapouls bestest ever soopartor' on, so run along, I'm sure Kenny Dalglish would be very proud of you.Kenny Dalglish, mummy? Who's he ? Fri 17 Jul 2009 15:06:47 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=96#comment332 331, haha... My apologies Zoots. But its raining again now, and i wont be blamed for this one... I think RedSams ade a weather machine and is targeting Lords, theres bound to more than a few Giles' in that crowd! Ay up, we're back on in 5... Fri 17 Jul 2009 14:37:10 GMT+1 StratfordBlade http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=95#comment331 Good stuff as always, Robbo.Now.....if Felicity Kendall is going spare?? Fri 17 Jul 2009 13:19:17 GMT+1 Zootmac http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=95#comment330 Ref 330 RedBlueArmy92You made the rain come on, you blighter. I'll be sending Sam round to boil your bunny. Fri 17 Jul 2009 13:18:14 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=95#comment329 Aint you watching the cricket Robbo??? Are we going to make the ozzies follow on at Lords??? Fri 17 Jul 2009 13:02:22 GMT+1 Robbo Robson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=95#comment328 re above: agreed. 2010-11 top three though. Fri 17 Jul 2009 12:48:17 GMT+1 tommy2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=94#comment327 There's no way City will challenge the big 4.. To do that they'd need to be signing Lampard/ Gerard as opposed to Barry... Or Villa/ Drogba as opposed to Santa Cruz and Adebayor... Villa and Everton will be strong as usual- Spurs could suprise a few people- City will finish top 6 at best.. Fri 17 Jul 2009 12:31:01 GMT+1 Hipkissisnotabluenose http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=94#comment326 this redsam bloke is obviously a moron, he uses spotify ffs Fri 17 Jul 2009 12:00:15 GMT+1 AwdTiger http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=94#comment325 #58 RedDutchman said "To be honest, I would hate to be in the position of a City fan right now. One of the best things about following a club like Manchester United, or Liverpool, or Arsenal, is the rich history, the proven track-record of success, and the knowledge that big-name signings have come off the back of success, not because some multi-billionaire fancies playing owner of a football club."Only a Man U supporter would make a statement like this without having his tongue firmly glued to his cheek! Man U have, over the years, bought more high-priced players than any other team in the EPL. Then when Chelski started to out-buy players the Man U fans started complaining about Abramovich now they are doing the same with Man City. the only thing RedDutchman got right was the statement about the "rich history" because let's face it Man U have always been prepared to put their hands in their pockets to try and keep their team near the top of the EPL (just look at the last few years - Rooney, Berbatov, Hargreaves and now Valencia!) They just hate the thought that another team could do the same - or better!!! Fri 17 Jul 2009 10:27:06 GMT+1 chips_in_the_queue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=93#comment324 He's crackin up, he's crackin' up, he's crackin, Red Sam's crackin' up. Fri 17 Jul 2009 09:40:47 GMT+1 RedBlueArmy92 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=93#comment323 hahahahaha, oh man RedSam you are actully mental mate, and i can respect that, but you have to wonder how much of a big man you are out of a chat room/blog??? Bring back SimpleTruth09! Fri 17 Jul 2009 09:10:54 GMT+1 God_Tony_Yeboah_21 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=93#comment322 252: Here's a thought - why can't the top divisions of the major football nations earmark a percentage of transfer fees to be passed down to the clubs that ACTUALLY need it?---Gee, not sure... what percentage of your salary do you give to the homeless? Fri 17 Jul 2009 07:36:30 GMT+1 b1ackRose http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=93#comment321 If City don't manage to lure Terry, Puyol, Touré and/or whoever else they're following, they will have another terrible season. "They bag some goals, but concede just as much" - I heard spoken by many people during last season. It's not enough to simply try and 'score more than them', they need a defence to match the standard of attack.But if City are to hold on to the players they have, and attract the kind big names they're after at the moment, a serious challenge for a Champions League spot is essential. If they prove to be all talky and no walky, I can see some of these 'stars' handing in transfer requests.Players like Barry will embrace the move, because in all honesty, City are more likely to consistently challenge the top four within the next five years than Villa are. But Kaká, Terry etc. are out of their reach untill they do. In the meantime, Hughes has got a tough old job keeping players, fans and foreign owners happy. Fri 17 Jul 2009 03:46:04 GMT+1 Gilo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=92#comment320 Sam_Red_Galactico Not sure whether you can give any banter out after being on the bbc website for 9 hours? The fact your a scouser likely means your not working. Being called Giles automatically inherits me enough land to hunt on to build 6 Anfields. Think you've bored us all on here. Hopefully your watching GCSE bitesize now. I guess we can all be grateful your 'online'. I wasn't aware the internet was available on Merseyside. Giles (seriously richer than you) Smith. Fri 17 Jul 2009 03:38:46 GMT+1 colclimb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=92#comment319 @sam_red_cabagiosDon't think I've ever heard so much drivel from one mouth piece.You're not biased of course are you.And you think you have a brain?Typical scouser I think,all mouth and trousers,give it a rest you plank! Fri 17 Jul 2009 02:43:42 GMT+1 Ozeki http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=92#comment318 I am a City follower, and I'm not comfortable with it. I guess partly because following a sporting team requires resilience, passion, commitment, tenacity and living through the lows to fully appreciate the highs. That's the supporters lot. But then to go and watch a group of players in the shirt who are clearly running around COMS for money and little else leaves me cold. That's partly why I dislike Chelsea so much. But I guess that is the nature of big money Pro Sport these days. NHL Ice Hockey players sometimes play for several teams in a single season. Loyalty and commitment clearly has no place in top flight Sport any more, so why should they expect it from us? Fri 17 Jul 2009 00:35:16 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=91#comment317 The simple science of the day tells you people that there's no such person as 'Robbo'.I did appreciate the idiot boy just there, though.Worth a try. Fri 17 Jul 2009 00:18:14 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=91#comment316 "It's late. SamGalatasarayredetc....Please tell me you're sleepingComplain about this comment# 313. At 00:43am on 17 Jul 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:Arrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!Now sleep."Stop the Boro pretence and I will Fri 17 Jul 2009 00:13:03 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=91#comment315 Loving The Smiths on Spotify.Pish, but the music is classic, Fri 17 Jul 2009 00:05:50 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=91#comment314 Nope Fri 17 Jul 2009 00:04:16 GMT+1 Plectognath http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=90#comment313 Oh, all this moaning about City! I think if you are going to bash City then it's only fair to bash Chelsea for the same thing - Chelsea didn't exactly earn their place in the top four. Besides, no-one seems brave enough to point out that the top four monopoly seems destined to end soon, surely that is good thing? Thu 16 Jul 2009 23:56:43 GMT+1 Robbo Robson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=90#comment312 Arrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!Now sleep. Thu 16 Jul 2009 23:43:28 GMT+1 Robbo Robson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=90#comment311 It's late. SamGalatasarayredetc....Please tell me you're sleeping Thu 16 Jul 2009 23:42:48 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=89#comment310 I just wish there was somone on here with s brain.There is'nt. Thu 16 Jul 2009 23:39:35 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=89#comment309 I only posted so many times on here because the BBC banned me from 606 for arguing, on the Liverpool board, about Man Utd so-called fans destroying any chat.This let me, and it was too good a chance to miss. Thu 16 Jul 2009 23:06:51 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=89#comment308 Put the bread knife away Thu 16 Jul 2009 23:00:12 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=88#comment307 Jesus, Spitfire.I'm on here having a laugh cos the telly's crap. Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:57:47 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=88#comment306 I'm not the one thinking about dodgy stuff - your post was full of it.Weirdo. Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:51:20 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=88#comment305 Why's that? Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:49:19 GMT+1 Spitfire http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=88#comment304 Sometimes, I do wish the comments here be moderated.We do get an occasional crazy person but all in all, people try to make sense. Albeit, some make sense only to themselves.Thats fair enough. Freedom of speech and opinion and its expression etc.But shouldn't this Sam_red fellow be put out of his misery?The social services need get involved here.I hate to imagine what serious trauma he has gone through. Bullied as a child, abused at home, castrated at work place, lost his job, never had close human contact of a meaning. ...... all of the above and many more.The guy is beyond bitter. The only way it would make me feel a bit less worried is if somehow, this outburst on a fairly balanced blog, has prevented him from carrying out a schoolyard massacre or something other on such sinister lines.In past people might have stoned him for being possessed or tried an exorcism but the Psychologists today tell us that he may not have any control over his actions. He needs a hug, but please do take precautions. What ever he has might be contagious.The guy seriously needs help, don't you think? Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:46:52 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=87#comment303 I mean, it's ok to have a conversation/debate/argument.But.The BBC is promoting child stupidity at the moment.None of whom have paid for the privilige Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:40:43 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=87#comment302 Is it out of order to call them spineless wastes of space? Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:33:52 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=87#comment301 olds Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:27:07 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=86#comment300 I'm amazed about this for a number of reasons.1. It was open.2. My pish wasn't scrubbed immediately.How much are they paying the 12 year olda on 606? Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:26:27 GMT+1 Torresque http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=86#comment299 Sam_Red mate, you started off with some fair points but have degenerated into random nonsense. Not threatening you but you swore so you're gonna get banned . Just leave it out, k? Does it make a difference if you spend large amounts spread over the years or in one gargantuan disgustingly large lump? City want to get good and quick, I see no difference to other sides spending similar amounts just over a larger time period. Then again if City, Madrid etc are going to spend this much EVERY transfer window then I feel it is wrong. Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:20:59 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=86#comment298 extra to there Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:19:54 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=86#comment297 Gax,You got nothing better to do to, too Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:18:10 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=85#comment296 This post has been Removed Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:15:26 GMT+1 GazUtd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=85#comment295 Seriously, shouldn't someone call the relevant authorities?There's clearly been an escape of some sort. Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:15:13 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=85#comment294 Arab Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:14:27 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=84#comment293 A lolly Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:13:22 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=84#comment292 You're just a unt, mate. Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:11:55 GMT+1 TurnerTheManc http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=84#comment291 Whinge whinge whinge. I bet you've all been whinging all your life. "Why has my brother got a lolly and I havnt", " why has my mate got a bird and I havnt", " why has Man City got enormous amounts of dosh, and my team hasnt"I dont remember anyone whinging when United bought Ferdinand 8 years ago for 32 Million (more than Rubinho). I dont remember anyone whinging when United bought Berbatov, with his silly hair, for 30 Mill (more than Tevez)United get an over the Hill crock on a free and somehow that makes him now the new messiah, and hes young again, and never gets injuries.Its like the lovable chap at the firm I work, who got 5 numbers and the bonus ball, £189,000. Suddenly the likeable chap who never did anyone no harm "didnt deserve it", "is still wearing that same coat", "didnt offer me any of it, and I brewed up for him for 20 years...ungreatful *&%*&"Dream on losers. You may win the Arab Lottery too one day, and then, I am sure, it will suddenly be quite alright. Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:09:38 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=84#comment290 I suspect it's a new Robbo, but how can you tell when he posts one in 200.I've done you people a favour by uncovering the horse**** they tell you.And you lambast me for it.Sun readers. Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:08:52 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=83#comment289 DOWNING AND OUTI notice you're quiet on that one. Thu 16 Jul 2009 22:04:20 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=83#comment288 Very, sorry. Thu 16 Jul 2009 21:56:43 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=83#comment287 I mean, isn't the vert fact that people called Giles are commenting on English football indicitive of what it's become? Thu 16 Jul 2009 21:56:10 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=82#comment286 Giles. Thu 16 Jul 2009 21:34:31 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=82#comment285 I mean shit, you wouldn't last five minutes. Thu 16 Jul 2009 21:33:54 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=82#comment284 When people called Giles are commenting about football, don't have a go at me.I'm sorry,, but no.Giles.Jesus. Thu 16 Jul 2009 21:32:18 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=82#comment283 This post has been Removed Thu 16 Jul 2009 21:30:47 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=81#comment282 This is painful. Thu 16 Jul 2009 21:29:49 GMT+1 OWAF http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=81#comment281 For me i think John Terry has a right to be a little angry,If there was an offer on the table he should have been the first to know,Because the club should have trusted him to stay....Man city for me have only made one good signingsanta cruz=over ratedteves=goodbarry=over ratedadebayor=over ratedand for me i thought there problem was in defense...richards wasnt superb and dunne was rubbish at points Thu 16 Jul 2009 19:52:12 GMT+1 skyblueusa243 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=81#comment280 280, I'm glad to see some sense, There's no doubting that the big 4 were established sides before spending vast sums in recent years as well as the lack of silverware at City for the past half-century.I personally agree with the tax on the large transfer sums. Myself, being from the United States, have grown up watching the sports here where every league and sport have a salary cap per team. It does make it very competitive and almost unheard of to see a team win multiple title in quick succession. However, I enjoy English football far more than the sports here because of the fact that some of the things that go on are just absolutely hilarious. On the subject of City challenging for the title, I doubt it. As much as I'd love to see that I see them having trouble later in the season, lacking depth in the squad (with the exception of strikers, obviously). I think Man U and Liverpool with probably go down to the wire again but with Chelsea much closer than last season. Arsenal seem like what we might call a farm team, that grows players from amateurs into professionals then sells them for a profit. I can't seem them challenging for anything in the next 1 or 2 seasons until there young boys get more experience.I will make one last comment on the spending of top flight clubs. In World Soccer Magazine, last year they had an article on which clubs spent the most over the summer and the newly promoted clubs spent near to the top 10 in the world on new players and some of them still go down. Matter of fact West Ham, Sunderland and Portsmouth spend fairly large chunks of cash on players and still end up middle to bottom of the table. My point being, money won't buy success unless you know who to buy it with and how to make that team worth. Simple as that. Thu 16 Jul 2009 19:21:41 GMT+1 Gilo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=80#comment279 277 & 278. Overall some fair arguements and its true that whilst more lmitations are in place Villa, Everton, Spurs are hardly bankrupt and on a shoe string.I think the anti-city emotions come from the fact that arguably pre-Abramovic Chelsea had recently won and runners up in a few cup finals, regularly made Europe since the days of Hoddle. So were already a foundation of a big club. Although thats not me disregarding the Russians huge influence. Talk about lack of success but prior to this they had not won a bean since the league title win in 1955 (or 58...)?Whilst Everton have spent money there wages are club policy capped and thats normally why we cant attract the cheque book hunter stars. Focussing more on emerging/unproven talent like Cahill, Lescott. Man United and quite rightly as they are expected to win trophies every year cannot take that risky approach. Hence they wait for proven world class players to be available (not always) and buy them at a premium. Wayne Rooney is a perfect example.If city play great football and challenge the status quo I see this as a slightly worrying but intriguing season ahead. Good luck to them. I feel Everton will definately lose out to them but not yet convinced Man U/Chelski will.What do you think about all transfers above £20m being taxed so the grass routes gets some. The Ronaldo deal set another scary new level of reminder about the gaps in finances from Conference to EPL Thu 16 Jul 2009 19:07:54 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=80#comment278 I've enjoyed this - it's the only one I can post on because I'm banned from 606 for staying on the Liverpool site and railing against Man Utd fans who come on and take the p***.No regrets. Thu 16 Jul 2009 19:01:52 GMT+1 skyblueusa243 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=80#comment277 One thing I forgot to add from my comment at #277 is the figures for the other 3 teams people have been discussing on this blog. Everton, Aston Villa and Tottenham. Over the past 5 seasons Villa have spent about 91 million pounds, which isn't a terribly small figure. Everton spend roughly 79 Million and Tottenham, with little success to show for it aside from an FA cup victory I believe, spent over 215 million, which is even more than City, and I haven't heard anyone griping over this expenditure. For people who think splashing money around is a recent development, HAH! Try again... Thu 16 Jul 2009 19:00:57 GMT+1 skyblueusa243 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=80#comment276 Great Blog Robbo,Let me start by first stating that I am a City fan and do personally approve of the big spending. There are a few things I'd like to comment on.First off, all these fans of the big 4 claim that City are jacking up the prices on players and generally making it more difficult for lower teams to purchase quality players at decent prices. I'll refer to some statistics that I found online for a reference. At transferleague.co.uk I read up on how much the big 4 teams have spent in the last 5 seasons. Arsenal spent the least of the 4 over the last 5 seasons, totaling about just over 100 Million Pounds. Manchester United spent roughly 180 Million Pounds. Liverpool spend just over 230 Million while Chelsea forked out 260 Million over the last 5 seasons, and that doesn't include the 03/04 transfer window where they spent a massive 153 million just that summer. In contrast, Manchester City in the past 5 seasons has spent just about 200 million, which is not a massive number as it falls between the big 4 teams.Before people criticize City for spending vast sums of money perhaps they should check there facts first. It takes money to have a good team, simple as that.My only other point is that although I agree City needs to buy players I don't feel that they need to exclusively buy strikers. I think of Gareth Barry as one of the best signings this summer for the team. Tevez and Santa Cruz will most certainly contribute, however, with Robinho already in the side and many other strikers on the bench to choose from, what makes Adebayor valuable to City? At a cost of 25 Million, it seems to me that money will go down the drain, and quite quickly, as you cannot field all those strikers at once. Man U had this same problem last year with Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney and Berbatov. They only played 1 or 2 games with all 4 of them on the field.I hope that City will come to there senses and start buying some quality defenders. They missed a good opportunity in Oguchi Onyewu who plays for the USA national team and went to AC Milan on the cheap this summer. In my opinion they really need to stop this nonsense with John Terry and make some moves for players that could realistically help them. For instance, Jolean Lescott of Everton, Alex from Chelsea, maybe even a bid for Johnny Evans from Man U.Again excellent blog and happy to see the comments to follow. Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:50:37 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=79#comment275 Shouldn't it be smedleysmythe?Or did you tone it down for us plebs Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:44:16 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=79#comment274 When you have the Giles', Tarquins and Buntys, it just underlines my earlier point. Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:42:06 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=79#comment273 You enjoy it, son.Giles.Ffs. Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:40:21 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=78#comment272 Giles lol Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:39:23 GMT+1 Gilo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=78#comment271 Yeah think I won the debate. Not going to further comment as more interested on what other people have to say rather than us dominate this blog comments. Im sure signing Johnson the Chelsea reject will no doubt mean you will win every game 23-0. Alonso on his way too...Great blog post Robbo. Anyone else agree with my Big Four in decline this summer? Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:37:49 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=78#comment270 Rah! Rah! Rah!We're going to smash the oiks!What a joke. Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:35:32 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=77#comment269 Should people called Giles even be allowed to watch football?Isn't that half the problem? Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:31:54 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=77#comment268 giles,You're massively out of your depth.That'll come with being a McFan called Giles. Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:29:51 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=77#comment267 And where did I say anything about Real Madrid? Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:26:31 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=77#comment266 We aren't weaker than last season, though.As far as I can see, we've only added to our squad. Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:25:47 GMT+1 Gilo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=76#comment265 Reflecting on your joke comment about beating Madrid making you the best team in the world (Madrid that won nothing last year)....We ruined your FA Cup run with our injured reserves yet I acknowledge the reds are clearly still the better side. Lost to Bury last week in a friendly so by your measures they are now the 5th best team in England?? Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:12:30 GMT+1 Gilo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=76#comment264 264 - Thats my point. He his a weaker replacement, hence they are not as strong as 2008/09!! You shouldnt be allowed on here, IQ reasons amongst football dillusions. My point is United like the other big 4 are in slight decline this summer."More Signing to come" - yes with 6 weeks to go in the window im sure the big four have plans to repel city in the market. If you attempting to have a weak dig at Moyes there is no disallusion amongst us blues that we are financially miles behind and already punching well above our weight by representing Merseyside in a final last year. Thu 16 Jul 2009 18:10:15 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=76#comment263 "Valencia is promising but not Ronaldo."SIX goals and SEVEN assists? £16m? How long's Fergie staying? Till he's 90?He spent £40m on two players who were supposed to replace Giggs and Scholes, and they're AWFUL!Do you think you've signed Owen to play as a sub? That's not going to get him in th England side, which is all he's ever been interested in - I'd love to see the terms of his contract (and that's a two year contract, on 50 grand a week - not the 'pay as you play' as was reported by these lot) - will you be surprised if Rooney is playing as a wingback yet again to cover the crock and the laziest £32m in history?"More signings to come"Not according to your manager - unless he's a liar.There'd be a surprise, eh?Remember the lies about Rafa's hand movements? Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:45:16 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=75#comment262 I've not seen ONE City fan, as it happens, question the signings of eight million strikers and no defenders.Is Micah Richards good enough? Is Mark Hughes going to have the time to bring him back after the mare he had last season?Does Mark Hughes care?I would suggest that the manager is the worst of the lot - absolutely nobody thinks he's up to this task, yet he's hanging on in there. Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:37:48 GMT+1 Gilo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=75#comment261 260 - you beat Madrid. Well done...milking that for 5 months. You didnt win anything so milk that. And Torres fitness or Rafa amazingly subbing Gerrard seemed to correlate well with drawing with Wigan, West Ham, Stoke, throwing title....Valencia is promising but not Ronaldo. Dont bother debating he is better.More signings to come I am sure but right now...this second...all four are weaker. City however, are stronger. And the most likely to continue that trend... Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:36:56 GMT+1 Ayoade Oluwasanmi http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=75#comment260 Robbo, I just couldn't stop laughing!!! You really do crack me up. Its all true. And thank GOD we're shorn of Adebayor. Please tell me Robbo, when are you going to Buckingham Palace to get your OBE? Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:35:28 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=75#comment259 "ON TOPIC:- I resent Man City and cant see Everton's honest attempt being now put to rest by there millions. BUT, love it or hate it wouldnt it be nice to see a new side in the 2010/11 Champions League?"I don't resent Man City's new-found fortune at all - it's an inevitable part of what Sky created and of all the clubs who deserve their place in the sun, it's City, having to live in the shadow of that hideous conglomerate for so long."Fact is all four of the big four as of today are worse than last season"The rest was ridiculous, mate. Liverpool destroyed the supposed biggest team in the world without their best players.The real fact is that Man Utd lost 40 goals per season in goals and assists for the sake of knocking a bit off their debt.Hence the purchase of a £16m Wigan player who's scored 6 goals and made 7 assists in three years, a free cripple and a Frenchman who even Houllier wouldn't touch. Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:25:16 GMT+1 R Nair http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=74#comment258 No. 98, you've got 12 players in your starting XI. No. 110, you've got 9 players in your starting XI. Anyway, it's been a long time since a top flight club lined up 2-3-5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_(association_football)#2-3-5_.28The_Pyramid.29Perhaps it's time for a club to try it out again. Anyway, are Manchester City the latest "Bank of England" club? Or "Moneybags City"?http://footballinsights.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/manchester-city-the-new-bank-of-england-club/ Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:20:39 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=74#comment257 ad astra,Downing for £12m is as ridiculous as Johnson was for £17m.In fact, moreso as Downing is a Championship player.At least you seem to have a decent American in charge. Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:17:18 GMT+1 Gilo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=74#comment256 ON TOPIC:- I resent Man City and cant see Everton's honest attempt being now put to rest by there millions. BUT, love it or hate it wouldnt it be nice to see a new side in the 2010/11 Champions League?Fact is all four of the big four as of today are worse than last season, yet City a far improved(maybe big signings on there way). Chelsea older and still no depth up front, Arsenal without Adebeyor and no replacement, United without Ronaldo... (the difference between them and Chelsea for two years)...Liverpool look like losing Alonso and are a torres injury away from midtable....IDEA:- All transfer fees for players above £20m should be taxed 20% going to grass routes football and FA infrastructure and charity. This will save the 100s of clubs which risk demise over the next few years and the local heritage of our beautiful game. ALSO:- Does Blatter and Platini's outrageous prejudice against the EPL finances look a bit ridiculous in the wake of Real Madrid's illegal bank loans that get wiped every time. No-wonder the Spanish economy is screwed.. Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:14:28 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=73#comment255 I think it speaks volumes, mind, that the first to supposedly shut up shop viz a viz big signings are the ones who just sold the best player in the world for the most ridiculous fee in football history who also, coincidentally, have the biggest debt in football history.And yes, I do have a rant about Man Utd - FACKT - but only because their fans are so disingenuous that they won't accept what everybody knows - that they're picking up cheap pish because they're being screwed by their American owners.So are we - we were promised a new stadium and instead our previous owner gets £90m in his back bin, a comfy seat at the game and we're worse off than we've ever been.Lovely man.And there's another thing - Man City have untold riches at their disposal yet they're getting their stadium on lease for coppers per year on a 250 year lease.Shouldn't Manchester City Council be having a look at that? Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:12:10 GMT+1 Hipkissisnotabluenose http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=73#comment254 my comment 253its 117 not 112 Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:06:27 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=73#comment253 Nothing to say?Ok, I'll say it.BLAME YOURSELVES.You've paid your 50 quid a month to pretend you're football fans and, in turn, you've opened the doors to shysters and a bunch of foreigners who couldn't give a monkey's cuss about our game - they're only in it for the money and you're feeding them. Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:01:16 GMT+1 Hipkissisnotabluenose http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=73#comment252 112)maybe so villa have some cover for ashley young or to try different formations with young playing the second striker roleyouve signed michael owen, so does that mean wayne rooney is available? Thu 16 Jul 2009 17:00:28 GMT+1 Sam_Red_Galactico http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=72#comment251 "I can see I'm not the first one to get in there, but Sam_Red_Galactico has properly hijacked this blog with his anti-United spamming. Get a job!"I've got a job - I'm just well ahead of myself so have a bit of time to spare.Alright then, City.Look, it's all well and good whinging on about how such massive spending will ruin the game, but the simple fact is that it's been going on for years - Man Utd spending £30m on a defender and £30m on a teenager, Chelsea spending £30m on a 30 year old, Liverpool spending £20m on a striker (who, may I point out, everyone scoffed at, including these venerable 'bloggers').Where things end up in ruination is if the club is spending beyond its means - look at Leeds, look at Newcastle for God's sake, who have gone down to the Championship with the fifth biggest wage bill in the Premier League! The club which Robbo attests to adore has spent an absolute fortune, half-cleaned out its owner and where are they now?I'll tell you where the problem really lies - Sky Television.The ridiculous (and mark my words, totally unsustainable) sums pumped into the English top-tier by Sky have given the Premier League a global audience, its players almost God-like status, and the fees for these players have sky-rocketed to match.£3bn to show football? Now if anyone with half a brain doesn't think that's simply insane, or believes that there aren't consequences in the fact that the stars of the piece aren't going to demand their slice, they're living in cloud cuckoo land. And along with this globalisation of the Premier League has come the influx of foreign owners, some of whom (mainly the Americans) are in it purely to scrape away the Sky profits at the expense of the clubs they've bought - without using a penny of their own billions - yet the biggest problem has become the owners who are using PL clubs as a 'plaything' or trinket - Chelsea and Man City being the obvious two.When you can throw half a billion at a squad without blinking an eye, just to be the Billy Big B*****ks on the block, you're artificially altering the playing field.There is an argument that with this huge influx of cash, it can only help the game due to the cash finding its way into clubs' coffers - but, as with the Sky money, it tends to only go to the biggest clubs anyway.As usual, the grassroots are left starving.Here's a thought - why can't the top divisions of the major football nations earmark a percentage of transfer fees to be passed down to the clubs that ACTUALLY need it? Thu 16 Jul 2009 16:45:45 GMT+1 Just Danski aka PKM (Joe Cole one step-over too many) Gaël Kakuta is Sublime, I like my Corona with Lime, I like my Morgan's Spiced with Coke on Ice http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=72#comment250 Robbo, I love your humourous blog most of the time. You have a fair pop at Chelsea on more than a few occasions and I swallow it with a bitter taste.But this has to be your best blog entry I have ever read. I don't think I've ever laughed out load reading anything on BBC Sport until now.In my country there's a saying:"It's not about the money, it's about the ammount of money." Thu 16 Jul 2009 16:28:57 GMT+1 RedWhiteandermblue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=72#comment249 "Posting rubbish on some blog while having another window open trying to find naked pics of Cheryl Cole is not multitasking."Damn! How about if you're accomplishing all this while drinking? Thu 16 Jul 2009 16:27:24 GMT+1 EricDantona http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=71#comment248 read: "their team" Thu 16 Jul 2009 16:15:30 GMT+1 EricDantona http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=71#comment247 I can see I'm not the first one to get in there, but Sam_Red_Galactico has properly hijacked this blog with his anti-United spamming. Get a job!The funniest thing about today's commenters is the few Manchester City fans who are brave enough to comment on how they're team are sure to be in the top 4 next year, and even one or two saying they will be competing for the title! They must be lying very convincingly to themselves. It's scary the tricks that the human mind can play. Thu 16 Jul 2009 16:07:27 GMT+1 poshPompeyblue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=71#comment246 POOR POMPEY WILL BE FIGHTING FOR SURVIVAL BEST PLAYERS LEAVING TO BOLSTER THERE WALLETS,SAME OLD STORY!!!! Thu 16 Jul 2009 15:22:32 GMT+1 Zootmac http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2009/07/cash_n_grab.html?page=71#comment245 Wot's so funny? It's just an A4ism. Thu 16 Jul 2009 14:31:21 GMT+1