Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html en-gb 30 Fri 22 Aug 2014 01:01:37 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html ArsenalArseneArshavin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=99#comment194 some very funny comments here...one saying he expects a,b and c to go through to the semis without knowing who will play who in the quarters. It's obvious Phil has a love affair with united so just accept the fact or ignore his blogs. And you Liverpool fans should know your team did exceptionally against Real so why wait for praise from Phil? Is it not enough you know your team did well? Does it make you feel better if Phil praises Liverpool more than United? Almost all of his blogs are about United. To be honest I'm just readinghis blogs like many other blogs from different authors. Phil is definetely not one of my favourites. He is actually very ordinary, nothing special. Fri 13 Mar 2009 10:35:47 GMT+1 stroma88 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=98#comment193 Not really concerning this blog but after the shocking goings on in Rome surely Roma and all Italian teams should be banned from European competition for 5 years as Liverpool et al were banned after Heysal Fri 13 Mar 2009 09:27:55 GMT+1 Roman Philosopher http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=98#comment192 showusyerhands wrote.........Oh god another journalist continues to gush in almost homo-errotic fashion over the (not so)Special One. Even after his team were tactically embarrassed over 2 legs. Let's be honest here. I thought Mourinho was the tactical master? His team have looked very ordinary in Europe as well as Serie A. Stop trying to build Mourinho up as anything more than a competent manager that has had the fortune to manage some of Europe's elite clubs. ________________________________________________________________________There are a lot of managers that have had the fortune to manage elite clubs, but not many were able to deliver success. Like it or not Mourinho is one manager that has.ps I am sure Porto will be flattered to be included in that elite category! Fri 13 Mar 2009 08:52:48 GMT+1 Roman Philosopher http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=97#comment191 dazjoe78.........Spot on, and to re-enforce your case, when Man U beat Chelsea 3-0 the focus was definatley on how bad Chelsea were in that game.Why is it that so many supporters of Liverpool have such a chip on their shoulder? Fri 13 Mar 2009 08:45:39 GMT+1 redforever http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=97#comment190 Its a little bit boring to read so many United fans who believe with absolute certainty that when they win, its because of a hard earned superiority, but when anybody else, but particularly Liverpool, wins, its luck/rule change/scandal hit weakened teams.But I digress. I have two points. First Michel Platini, has the power over two balls, and neither of them will be in a felt bag next Friday. If he did, then why didnt he exercise it last year?Second, make no mistake, Sir Alex Ferguson is bigger than Manchester United. He is the single biggest factor contributing to the teams success for the past 16 years. Dont believe me? How many Championships did Manchester United win between 1967 and 1993....He chooses the players, he picks the team, he coaches, motivates and disciplines them. He decides the tactics, he instills the confidence and passion, he makes them winners.Sure they will replace him with a big name, maybe even Mourinho, but is he a better manager than Wenger, Hiddink or Benitez? Not clearly, Ferguson, however is head and shoulders above his peers. Fri 13 Mar 2009 02:33:54 GMT+1 CarefreeCoors http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=96#comment189 Reading through some of the earlier posts, it's quite sad how Liverpool fans can somehow derive a personal attack on their beloved team from an article describing United's triumph over Inter.I would advise these individuals to re-read the article, as I can only find one reference to Liverpool and it is a very positive comment indeed (the "flow and fluidity" remark).For the record, I feel that while Liverpool played mostly sensationally over the two legs, even the most dedicated of Liverpool fans must admit that they were perhaps a little fortunate that their illustrious opposition never came close to hitting their stride. In saying this, I take nothing away from a truly wonderful, fully deserved victory for the club.I have grown a little tired of the cliché "the ability to grind out unconvincing victories is the mark of champions", as if this justifies an under-par performance from the superior club. United were poor; there is no doubt about that, particularly in the first half. Inter on the other hand, were poorer and the overall class of United bettered that of Inter. We would have witnessed a completely different scenario had Inter's strikers been a little more composed in front of goal. The fact of the matter is, however, that they weren't and United are still in contention for that quintuple.For the record, I think the entire five trophies are out of even United's reach. I foresee a stumble in the Champions League and / or perhaps the FA Cup. The game schedule is ridiculously clustered and I don't think any current squad size in the world could endure that and come away with five triumphs. If any team could do it though, it's United.And to all those supporting / discouraging an all-England final: who cares? May the best team, playing the best football, win.Good blog McNulty, whilst I'm not always your biggest fan this is an above average summary at worst. Fri 13 Mar 2009 00:25:35 GMT+1 TWSI http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=96#comment188 This post has been Removed Fri 13 Mar 2009 00:13:10 GMT+1 dazjoe78 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=95#comment187 Why can't Liverpool fans grasp the concept of journalism? Reporters have to report what they're seeing in front of them. Every report of Pool-Madrid game I read commented on how well Liverpool played, but also talked about how poor Madrid were. Were they expected to completely fail to mention that? It's being an un-biased reporter, which is what they, with the exception of Alan Green, are. Madrid WERE poor, very, very, poor. Yes I'm sure this was partly down to how well Liverpool played, and that has been mentioned time and again, but to compose a match report that comprise's solely of the excellence of one team whilst ignoring the failings of the other, is bad journalism and would soon lead to having to find new employment! If Man Utd thrash Pool on Sat, will every report simply be full of how wonderfull Man Utd were? No, they will also talk of how Pool could play so bad. Thats all the reporters have done with Tues game, Madrid were shockingly poor, they looked like they'd only been introduced to each other 2 minutes prior to kick off. You played very well, congratulations. Real Madrid were terrible. United played ok. Inter Milan played quite well in the first half. Sums up the 2 games I think. Fri 13 Mar 2009 00:03:22 GMT+1 Seven_DevL http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=95#comment186 i can fairly say that Mourinho is the only capable manager to replace SAF & certainly not that fat RAFA...He has the records, the strength & the technical capabilities.. If he does replace SAF, Man UTd would be tour de force Of PL & European Events. The fans would be proud of it... Thu 12 Mar 2009 22:25:44 GMT+1 collie21 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=94#comment185 Well let me say it. If liverpool win the game on Saturday they are still 4 points behind and United have a game in hand. I wonder if running the risk of meeting them in champions league Ferguson might cod them with his team selection and play not his strongest 11. Thu 12 Mar 2009 22:09:34 GMT+1 dribbles_ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=94#comment184 I am always suprised at Mourhino being touted as the next Manchester United manager. This is not because I think he is wholly unsuitable but more for the fact that it doesn't seem like his style. He loves to come into clubs where even if they are big and have money are perceived as desperately missing success or trophies in some form. Even after Porto he chose Chelsea where he could and did become a folk hero by bringing them unprecedented success after years of modest achievement. Even with Inter who had won Serie A there was the chance to again become a hero by finally getting their hands on the Champions League trophy. With Manchester United all Mourhino can do is fail or simply deliver what is expected. Manchester United have literally won it all. As we speak they are champions of their country, continent and planet. Is this really where Mourhino wants to go? Surely his chances of attaining further god like status would be better realised at a club like Liverpool where winning the Premiership would instantly cement his place in the history books and hearts of every supporter especially if it signaled the end of Manchester United's dominance of the competition. As much as he loves achieving success for the club he manages it would be naive to think his legacy isn't also at the forefront of the decision making process in his mind when he thinks about where he will next ply his trade. Thu 12 Mar 2009 21:47:58 GMT+1 Daggers http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=93#comment183 I would like United to draw FC Porto, Liverpool v Barcelona, arsenal v Bayern and Chelsea v Villareal Thu 12 Mar 2009 21:45:22 GMT+1 sixty8ninety9zero8 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=93#comment182 Re: post 160 :Congrats on the degree. No sarcasm intended. But seriously.... Please don't contradict yourself. When I predict (in my opinion) that Chelsea (currently one of the form teams) will beat the ever erratic Man City on their own patch, I am being presumptuous. Yet by the same token your league table assumes Chelsea will lose. Also we are both referring to the league table as it stands IF Liverpool won. That's a bug if as well. Thu 12 Mar 2009 20:55:47 GMT+1 dhimmi http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=92#comment181 Anyone with sense knows that a team dominant enough to win every single trophy is sounding the death knell for the gameThe sooner we all wake up and restructure the game so that all the money and players do not go to a handful of clubs the better.We can start with an embargo on any Man Utd buying for the next 20 years. That will serve as punishment for their conduct in buying Ferdinand, Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov and Carrick.I do hope the BBC does not have a policy of censoring all complaints about Man Utd. That would be deeply offensive. Thu 12 Mar 2009 20:21:00 GMT+1 Karthick Arvinth http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=92#comment180 Man Utd have a fantastic chance of reclaiming their European crown. Liverpool and Barcelona are possibly the biggest obstacles, but if United get to play the second leg at home in the quarters/semis, they could overcome anyone. On a sidenote, I would love to see Liverpool come out and play the way they did against Real Madrid at Old Trafford. It would be a much better spectacle that way and United can give Benitez another football lesson. Thu 12 Mar 2009 20:14:39 GMT+1 Mel0dymaker http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=91#comment179 I despise manu with a passion. As do most I imagine. But any team winning a quintuple is a sight to behold. If it's an English team even better... Not to mention they would be the first team to defend the CL. Another feat i'd rather belong to an English team. I doubt they will pull it off though. None of the other teams left in the competition I think can compete with the English clubs. I think Arsenal are the dark horses of the top 4. If their squad can recover well from the injuries then they have a good chance in both the FA cup and CL.I hope the English teams all miss each other in the draw. Set us up for an all English semi-finals . Thu 12 Mar 2009 19:56:48 GMT+1 showUsYerHands http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=91#comment178 Oh god another journalist continues to gush in almost homo-errotic fashion over the (not so)Special One. Even after his team were tactically embarrassed over 2 legs. Let's be honest here. I thought Mourinho was the tactical master? His team have looked very ordinary in Europe as well as Serie A. Stop trying to build Mourinho up as anything more than a competent manager that has had the fortune to manage some of Europe's elite clubs. Thu 12 Mar 2009 19:52:06 GMT+1 The Trawler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=90#comment177 i agree that the club world cup is a dodgy competition because of the current format, but the Final is still Europe versus Sth America and to say the Copa Libertadores winners are English Championship standard is ignorance beyond belief. and once you've made the effort to take part you have to win, and you want to win - just ask Liverpool. United are world club champions, simple as that.on the point about United not being champions going into the 1998/99 season that is very true. it is also true that Bayern Munich weren't German champions going in to that season either.but by the time of the 1999 European Cup final both United and Bayern had won their leagues, United had won the FA Cup and Bayern had their own Cup final to play, and they were without question the best two teams in Europe. Thu 12 Mar 2009 19:38:46 GMT+1 omarutd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=90#comment176 mourinho whishes 2 manage united ...he knows were the best team in the world Thu 12 Mar 2009 19:06:29 GMT+1 My Good Self http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=89#comment175 scotboy7 #171Make my mind up about what?If you read through my posts again you will see that I don't want to see an all English final again. Nor do I want to see an all Spanish, Italian, etc. final. I would welcome the return of only allowing the champions of each countries top flight division to compete in the CL.If this was the case and an English team went on to when the CL over a number of years I wouldn't be as objectional.However, as I am a Rover I don't particularly want to see any other English team winning the CL. I haven't said this before but I will to clarify things. I will give respect to other English teams, including other mainland European teams, and will have an opinion on who I feel is a better team and most likely to win. So if I feel that United/Liverpool/Barca etc are favourites then I will voice that opinion. But I am not going to give a team my support just because they are English. I leave that sort of patriotic support to International games.For me and my custom ways I see European football as a fresh difference to the hum-drum of domestic club competition. I simply want to see more than English teams playing each other at the business end of the CL.I fully appreciate that if the English teams are the best in the competition and two make it to the final then that's a case of the best team winning. But that doesn't me that I enjoy it or want to see it happen. Thu 12 Mar 2009 19:02:50 GMT+1 littlejklc http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=89#comment174 Post 15, I agreed with you. The draw will likely be that.Barca always got the most easy one possible. Lyon were the most easy one possible for them. Still they gave 2 goals back at home. I cannot see this is good scoreline even though you let in 5.I think any of the 4 teams from EPL can beat Barca over two games. Thu 12 Mar 2009 18:43:38 GMT+1 littlejklc http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=88#comment173 From a Liverpool fans, Man United were not playing particularly good last night. That is dangerous because even that they won. Inter can say they didn't have luck after having two strikes hitting the post and crossbar.They actually had themselves to blame, they didn't take the chance that Man United lost the ball very cheaply.All in all, Man United deserved to be the last 8. As the league very likely will stay in Manchester, I really hope the final will be between Man United and Liverpool. Thu 12 Mar 2009 18:37:29 GMT+1 babyZensho http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=88#comment172 Ferguson's demeanour at the press conference last night reminded me of the time many years ago that his Aberdeen team won the Scottish Cup. I say reminded only, as after winning - that's right winning - the Scottish Cup, Ferguson flew into a rage because of the manner of the win. It really was unbelievable and demonstrates why Morinho will never become Man United manager. With Ferguson winning and the manner of the win are held in equal importance, whereas Morinho, as great as he is, is much more interested in winning - the manner of the win is not so important. The ethos at United is to play attractive football and Morinho is not, and will not be, bound by this Thu 12 Mar 2009 18:23:49 GMT+1 RVP1968 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=87#comment171 I like the way people on these boards rubbish our achievement in the World Club Cup by describing it as a "joke" (RVP1968)...Fact is we won it and you haven't. We were proud to be there because to have been eligible to play in it you must win the Champions League in the first place! I wonder if its just because Arsenal haven't won ANY silverware in a few years that their supporters feel the need to hate on us because of our success, not just in England, or Europe, but the world. Once again, the green-eyed monster rears its ugly head! Don't worry though, maybe you will have a better chance of winning something next year... perhaps the Europa League? ;)-----------------------------------------------------------------You really are a joke....Remember your treble year??...Remind me, were you champions going into that champions league campaign? Err.....NO.It was Arsenal... so by your definition of having to win something to be in the next competition, your greatest ever season shouldnt have happened.I know you can only beat whats in front of you but this so-called world championship is a joke competition and no-one sensible will claim otherwise. There are harder teams to beat in the English championship.Oh...and its strange that the community shield is always mentioned in trophy hauls when United win it but considered a joke when others do. Thu 12 Mar 2009 18:00:54 GMT+1 scotboy7 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=87#comment170 Re FrelnikAt 1.22pm you wrote...I would also welcome an English team winning the CL over a number of seasons. Even if it was Liverpool or United - if they deserved the title then I'd value their success. But I am of the old fashioned nature that only the champions of each countries top flight division should be in the CL.At 10.39 you wrote...Better still lets hope the remaining four other European clubs can knock out the English teams if drawn against them.Not trying to be pedantic but please make your mind up. Thu 12 Mar 2009 17:55:22 GMT+1 Sevenseaman http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=86#comment169 Fourth minute set piece Viera did not have a clue 'bout how the ball was travelling. His marking of Vidic was woeful, who headed in without the least bit of interference. Ibrahimovic should have been good enough to snap up his chance. His dinked header rising to the cross bar was a howler. Nerves? Or just bad luck latching on to the Italians on the night? Cristiano's heading in the juicy floater was classy nailer.Manchester United vs Liverpool this Saturday must now be a defining game. Not that it will loosen United's consummate hold on the PL title, but a loss for United will definitely dent the aura that surrounds it now. There is a distinct general perception that Rafa may play the sit back tactic, but that can only suit the hosts who should rate a draw as a good result. Rafa needs a result. Getting 1-0 may be much tougher than getting 4-0. Even so the right approach should be similar to the one against Real. All guns blazing and Torres in a very aggressive mode. The Italians failed to cope with Torres aggression. But here problems could crop up as Rio just loves to cut Torres to size the moment he meets him. I've seen Torres quail under Rio's glare following a tough tackle near the box. He went quiet rest of the game. Thu 12 Mar 2009 17:43:02 GMT+1 CristianosGreenBoots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=86#comment168 Can't help but feel that Mourinho will be the next United manager. When Fergie announced that he would leave in 3/4 years earlier on this season, Mourinho later claimed that he would leave the Italians in roughly the same amount of time. Despite the fact that his team got humbled (all be it in not the prettiest way) I still think what he did with Chelsea was great, so I tip him to replace Fergie. Thu 12 Mar 2009 17:40:09 GMT+1 kneerash http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=85#comment167 FrelnikBeglin commentates from time to time but I personally dont like his commentary, for sheer entertainment you should check out Eamonn Dunphy or RTE sports on youtube...enjoy Thu 12 Mar 2009 17:38:47 GMT+1 kneerash http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=85#comment166 NIreland1-0England Souness is Scottish last time I checked... Thu 12 Mar 2009 17:35:20 GMT+1 Mustard http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=84#comment165 Villareal or FC Porto would do fine for me in the next round ;) Thu 12 Mar 2009 17:01:16 GMT+1 DougCoglan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=84#comment164 Quel parfum? Thu 12 Mar 2009 17:00:28 GMT+1 The Trawler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=83#comment163 kneerash, on Benitez you say no United fan will admit that he has improved Liverpool dramatically over his 5 years - so I looked at the records...in the 5yrs before he arrived Liverpool finished 3rd, 4th, 2nd, 5th, 4th and never closer than 7pts behind the championsin the 5yrs since, they've finished 5th, 3rd, 3rd, 4th and are currently in a battle for 2nd or 3rd; their best result was 9pts behind the champions (they are currently 7pts off the top having played a game more)before Benitez arrived Liverpool's best CL performance was the Q/F defeat to Leverkusen in 2002 if memeory serves. they got a bit ahead of themselves the following season and blew the group phase and were knocked out of the uefa by Celtic.Benitez' arrival has coincided with Liverpool's worst league finish of the last decade (58pts, 5th place, 37pts off the top) in 2005. it has also coincided with a slackening of the CL qualification rules to include 4th (& even 5th) placed teams. On top of that we've seen the Serie A match-fixing scandal seriously weaken the Italian league at a time when the money in the English game continues to go through the roof. Last season Benitez won nothing. The season before that Benitez won nothing. And the season before that he won the FA Cup final more by luck than judgement. Benitez deserves some credit for steering Liverpool to the latter stages of the CL every season, and he gets it on his bank balance - it's all that's kept him in the job. But given all the factors I've listed and the fact that he continues to fall well short in the domestic league season on season, is that really the dramatic improvement in their fortunes that you claim it to be? Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:56:02 GMT+1 throbbinrobin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=83#comment162 Unbiased view - you can't argue with this:The weakest, generally, are Arsenal, Porto and Villareal, in no particular order.Similarly, the teams to avoid at all times are certainly Man U, Barca and Bayern. Again, no particular order.On their day, L'pool and Chelsea can beat anyone, but these are the two 'middle' clubs of the eight because of their inconsistency. Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:54:00 GMT+1 Ferdinaldooney http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=82#comment161 151.This would be the draw that I would relish the most:(Man United vs Barcelona) vs (Liverpool vs Bayern Munich)vs(Chelsea vs Porto) vs (Arsenal vs Villareal)But knowing Platini, I'm afraid this is the most likely outcome:(Barcelona vs Porto) vs (Liverpool vs Chelsea)vs(Man United vs Arsenal) vs (Bayern Munich vs Villareal)Either way, just hope Man United get a good footballing team i.e. Barcelona/Arsenal in the final and that we win.Bring on the sextuple (if you count the community shield)!!!!! Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:44:48 GMT+1 NIreland1-0England http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=82#comment160 The BBC show favouritism to Utd because they are still afraid of Fergie - The English Media as a whole is a joke, all blinded by the disease known as Englishness, for real punditry watch RTE in Ireland - Graham Souness does a CL match for RTE on a Tuesday and Sky on a Wednesday, Souness stated when he first started working for RTE that English media will not allow you openly criticize a player, the boys on RTE will openly call a player/team/manager rubbish - When England beat Trinidad and Tobago in the World cup Garth Crooks went up to Sven and said you got you tactics right despite that win being probably the worst performance by an English side in an international competition - turn over to RTE and the boys said and I quote: "that's the closest thing I have ever seen to 2 men having s*x on live TV" - now that?s a pundit....All this narking back and fourth is pointless, a united fan will never openly admit Rafa Benitez is a good manager who has improved LFC dramatically over his 5 years - Give Rafa 20 odd years and he will have a stack of trophies.... To compare Rafa and Fergie is like comparing Nick Faldo and Rory McElroy...makes no sense-----------------------------------------------------------Where to start with this one........1. Irish pundits mocking the English....really? never, i wonder why2. How you know that Rafa will have a stack of trophies? he's still miles away from winning the league and not much better than Houllier despite having more cash and Gerrard at his peak years3. Comparing Faldo with McElroy makes no sense......well it wouldn't cause there is no McElroy. Now McIlroy on the other hand... Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:40:49 GMT+1 Kíllìnghölmê_Clᥠ(aka Charlie Cheesecake) http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=81#comment159 sixty8ninety9zero8 Well done.. your maths GCSE really worked out for you there.(Thanks, so did my Degree in Applied Biology)Simple enough?(It's very presumptive of you to expect three points from any game)______________________________________________________________________Phil,On a more serious note:I'd like to see Man Utd - Liverpool in the next round. Rather have this over two legs in England rather than Utd and Liverpool fans "meeting" in Rome. There's always the possibility that Italian hooligans may kick something off too. I sincerely hope not. I reckon security for any english fans will be a problem whoever goes there. Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:32:55 GMT+1 Sirmattsway http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=81#comment158 I think people forget about last season and it always seems to be the same. When United were 14th in the Premiership with Liverpool everyone was laughing saying they are doing shocking its because no Ronaldo yet the previous year it was meant to be because of no Saha, no target man and that Tevez and Rooney couldn't play together. Same thing is happening with the European Champions league now, United weren't great in most of their ties with nervous moments against Lyon at Old trafford and Barcelona but in 6 games (2 each) v Lyon, Roma and Barcelona we conceeded 1 goal. Last night again we weren't great but did the job and this is what you need in European knock out competitions. Over the 2 legs v Inter Milan we were the better side and deserved to go through. Even when they looked better than they did at home and got a couple of good chances we still had more chances of our own with Cesar diving/parrying all over the shop. Inter aren't good enough to match us, Jose Mouinho isn't good enough to beat Ferguson when he too has a strong team (Chelsea mega cash) and Ibramohimovic is so over rated its shcoking, I wouldn't rather play O'sea up front than have Zlatan in our squad, at least Johnny is willing and can score against big teams. Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:29:33 GMT+1 Give_Me_A_Break http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=80#comment157 "151. At 4:08pm on 12 Mar 2009, Phil McNulty - BBC Sport wrote:As we are discussing Manchester United here, who would their fans like to draw in the last eight?And let's pose the same question to Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool fans."Well, at the moment I'd like Villareal or Porto, but I might have changed my mind in an hour or so when this gets published. Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:28:06 GMT+1 RedDevilMOB http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=80#comment156 @151Anybody Phil. We don't fear any team. My personal choice would be an English side, either Liverpool or Arsenal. Also, Barca again would be a great match. I have a lot of respect for Chelsea, and aknowledge that the difference between us last year was John Terry. So I would not be as confident drawing them, and no doubt they would want revenge for that night in Moscow. Just have a feeling that would be a very difficult tie. Having said this, I feel we can compete with any of the last 8 and beat them. Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:25:10 GMT+1 Wayne Rooney - The missing link - save 606 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=79#comment155 In answer to your question Phil I really don't mind who we draw at this stage of the contest. I think (despite others comments to the contrary!!) that the remaining teams are all capable of a win over 2 legs, and this will be less reliant on the form books. Yes United have a decent chance to win it, but they will certainly have to play better than they did against Inter last night to do so. Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:23:22 GMT+1 mape_ventura http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=78#comment154 151. At 4:08pm on 12 Mar 2009, Phil McNulty - BBC Sport wrote:As we are discussing Manchester United here, who would their fans like to draw in the last eight?And let's pose the same question to Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool fans.------------------------------------------------------------------------As there is a credit crunch i'd actually prefer English teams all the way to the final... will save me some cash on travelling costs.But i think any of the English teams would be happy to draw either Porto or Villarreal. After that it would probably be Arsenal the next weakest link, but they are still a huge threat. Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:18:37 GMT+1 RedDevilMOB http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=78#comment153 I like the way people on these boards rubbish our achievement in the World Club Cup by describing it as a "joke" (RVP1968)...Fact is we won it and you haven't. We were proud to be there because to have been eligible to play in it you must win the Champions League in the first place! I wonder if its just because Arsenal haven't won ANY silverware in a few years that their supporters feel the need to hate on us because of our success, not just in England, or Europe, but the world. Once again, the green-eyed monster rears its ugly head! Don't worry though, maybe you will have a better chance of winning something next year... perhaps the Europa League? ;) Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:14:36 GMT+1 whatbill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=77#comment152 Its suits Mourinho to talk United up as he has to answer to his chairman. The quintuple is closer but still a remote chance, getting past Barca or any of the other english teams will be very difficult.Although I wish I'd backed us for it a few weeks back as I could probably hedge my bets quite nicely by now.I'm amazed that the blog mentions Liverpool twice in a positive light and yet their fans are going after Phil as usual. United were not at their best last night but given their current position are bound to be given a certain amount of credit. They are being praised for their achievements so far this season rather than for last night's slightly lucky victory... Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:09:15 GMT+1 Daggers http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=77#comment151 Has Phil gone home? It's all right for some. Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:09:01 GMT+1 philmcnultybbcsport http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=76#comment150 As we are discussing Manchester United here, who would their fans like to draw in the last eight?And let's pose the same question to Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool fans. Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:08:05 GMT+1 sportyredkoppite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=76#comment149 122. RVP1968 wrote:Honestly, its not inconceivable that they could just win the league, to go with the league cup...------------------------------------------------------------------------I love it, "JUST win the league" I would give my left arm to JUST win the league (not literally of course :) Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:04:52 GMT+1 sportyredkoppite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=75#comment148 98. Frelnik wroteI don't even want to see the top 4 of a league entered into the CL. It should be the winners and the winners only.Of course the new money grabbing UEFA format of allowing up to four teams from one country in was always going to lead to this scenario and as such Platini has to look internally before criticising English teams.-----------------------------------------------------------------------Ah, but the format was changed because the UEFA Cup/Fairs Cup had multi teams and was seen as the more difficult cup to win, indeed many thought it the premier cup competition. In the early days you only had to beat the champions of a couple of weak countries in the European Cup and you were in the semi finals. Thu 12 Mar 2009 16:01:19 GMT+1 PjW http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=75#comment147 There’s been a mere two year “dominance” by England – hardly reason for Blatter et al to fly into an Anglophobic panic just yet.Three one-nation finals in the last twelve seasons:07-09 – England02-03 – Italy99-00 – SpainFour times in the last twelve seasons three of the semi-finalists were from one nation:07-08 – England06-07 – England02-03 – Italy99-00 – SpainFour occasions where one nation had two (but less than three) semi-finalists:05-06 – Spain04-05 – England01-02 – Spain00-01 – SpainNumber of semi-final appearances in the last twelve seasons:England – 14Spain – 13Italy – 9Germany – 6Season / Winner /RU /Semi 1 /Semi 22007-08 Eng Eng Eng Spa2006-07 It Eng Eng Eng2005-06 Spa Eng Spa It2004-05 Eng It Eng Neth2003-04 Por Fra Spa Eng2002-03 It It Spa It2001-02 Spa Ger Eng Spa2000-01 Ger Spa Eng Spa1999-00 Spa Spa Ger Spa1998-99 Eng Ger It Ukr1997-98 Spa It Ger Fra1996-97 Ger It Eng Neth Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:56:34 GMT+1 ericseyebrows http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=74#comment146 I think what annoys Liverpool fans is that when Man U play poorly but win its the mark of champions but when Liverpool do it they're lucky or simply poor.-------------------------------------------------------------------------Yes that is because United have won 10 of the last 16 league titles. They have players who have multiple winnes medals and knows what it takes to win the PL. Just face it United are a better team and squad than Liverpool. We can vary our game according to the situation and opponent. We are far superior in every department. Liverpool do not have a single player who has won the PL and have no idea of the pressures involved at Easter time. This is why they buckle and fail to beat teams like Stoke, Middlesbrough, Hull et al. Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:54:47 GMT+1 hohoah http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=74#comment145 Who is Special One? Only the winner is the Special One. Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:48:44 GMT+1 49 and thats a wrap http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=73#comment144 Too much Fergie-worshipping. And Mourihno, too. Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:37:58 GMT+1 Give_Me_A_Break http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=73#comment143 Why is it taking over an hour for posts to be "moderated"? Rather kills off any meaningful debate, doesn't it? Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:37:39 GMT+1 My Good Self http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=72#comment142 kneerashI echo your statement. In my opinion ITV don't know the meaning of the word objective on European nights. Even some of their FA Cup commentary has been questionable, especially when Man United are concerned.I don't have the ability to watch RTÉ for obvious reasons. But from what you've said it seems like it would be a much better broadcast. I'm even starting to lose faith in Sky these days. Although I have heard it sounds like a bunch of drunks arguing around a pub table at times with Eamonn Dunphy being highly outspoken and brutal at times. I've heard that Jim Beglin commentates for RTÉ. How does his commentary compare to his waffle on ITV? Is it equally as bad or is it different due to him being let off the leash more on Irish TV. Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:31:53 GMT+1 nickkcin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=72#comment141 This post has been Removed Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:30:11 GMT+1 dandolinho http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=71#comment140 united, after last nights performance should b wary of most teams left in the como now, i watched last night n any 'decent' striker with more about him than zlatan would have put the stoppers on united last night. most of the other teams left now do have quality strikers at their disposal, play anything like that against bayern or barca n united wot b so lucky. they wer matched all over the pitch by a really really average inter side. good win in the end, but id b a little worried that 150 million pounds of strikers cant get u over the hill as they should.. as i posted yesterday, the desicive blow came from non other than nemanja vidic. i kno ronny got 1, but inter, with ibra up front wer never gonna actually score, he cant hit a cows rear with a bajo on the big stage, vidic's goal would have wont it anyway, ronaldos was just insult to injury really. still, i think united can do nothing more than perform better than last night, they made the whole inter team barr zlatan look on parr with them, n even the most fervent fan can c that ubited are actually miles better than that inter team Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:27:00 GMT+1 Give_Me_A_Break http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=71#comment139 Post # 120, "The BBC show favouritism to Utd because they are still afraid of Fergie"Quite frankly, you must be deluded if you truly believe this rubbish. BBC show favouritism to United! Piffle, as one of my old teachers used to say about my work. If anything, it's the other way round. Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:26:24 GMT+1 Xavierneville http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=70#comment138 Okay, lets get this right the only reason the English dominate now is money and buying everry player in the know world....Result no competitive CL and domestic league......When English clubs last dominated Italy had all the money and we just had a fair spread of decent players, three differne clubs (NF, AV and LP) won in succession. When Madrid won all their togther everyone was competitive, same with Bayern and ItalyLets get real English teams only dominate because the format and money let them. It's a shame the one eyed amongsdt you can deal with th efact that good teams are built and forged not bought becaue you have a spare 30 million lying around.Robbo Robson could lead one of our English clubs to glory, sorry Robbo you could.......with most of the Bluebell as back round staff!We know for sure SAF can do it because f his time at Aberdeen, so I don't begrudge him....Give Wenger Benetiz or the special one Spurs, Newcastle, Villa or Everton and see how far these amazing tacticans get..........Give me Jol, O'Neil or Moyes any day Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:20:57 GMT+1 AndyUnited - RedBoots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=70#comment137 The point really is that Inter played well and United for their standards did not, but United still came out on top. Mourihno said it himself he said that Inter played to their capacity and were beaten overall by the better team.The difference is that Inter played well, where as Real Madrid did not play well against Liverpool and Liverpool played well in their game which resulted in a big result. Real have been shown up really as to how behind the likes of the english clubs they are, they did not play well but they were outclassed by Liverpool.United played very well at the San Siro and should definately have got a result over in Italy, however they did the job at home and were the better team over the two legs. This is the reason however that United did not get such and extremem result as Liverpool did; Inter played well and United were not at their very best so it was tight.The other tie has shown that Liverpool are a better team than Real Madrid at this time and United are overall better than Inter at this moment in time as Mourihno himself stated.Personally I do not believe Internazionale would, if they had played Liverpool at Anfield, if Liverpool played at the same standard; I do not believe that Internazionale would have conceded as many goals as Madrid and would most definately have provided more threat to the Liverpool defence. Inter Milan are a better, stronger side than Real Madrid. So taking nothing away from Liverpool, but any comparisson between the two results is kind of irrelevant really; different teams different ties, different circumstances; both English teams got the job done in different ways. Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:14:22 GMT+1 kneerash http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=69#comment136 WarriorcraigBit would be a sextuple... Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:08:45 GMT+1 hunk4hire http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=69#comment135 I don't see Jose as a Man Utd-type manager. His track record suggests he's impulsive, restless and impetuous. It works well for a couple of seasons but he's not the sort of manager who comes in and builds a club for the longer term. He's not the local "sheriff" who calmly takes charge of a town for decades. He's the cavalry, who rides into town, routs out the bad guys, cleans up the mess, then moves on out to the next trouble spot.As for the Champions League, I think there are some surprises in store. The team nobody is talking about but who I think will go all the way are Bayern Munich. They are extremely efficient and look very solid. I think they'll be too much for this misfiring Man Utd crew. Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:07:31 GMT+1 JayRed - The Babes' Remembered Forever and a day! http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=68#comment134 The man said it himself special jobs require special managers and when Fergie does retire if we don't get Mourinho then I think we need to think long and hard about how we failed to get him.He is a proven manager at the top level and takes a tremendous amount of pressure of the players and places it on himself which is what we saw at Chelsea. Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:06:54 GMT+1 Xavierneville http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=68#comment133 Phil, are you nuts?Champions League it isn't, because most of the entratant are 2nd 3rd and fourth best.Boring games in the main because the big teams are too familiar with each other.People say go make a European league, but after one season it would fall apart because amongst these successful team some has to finish 2nd third fourth etcThere was a time when a neutral was interested in this competition but only plastic fans of money dreched sides believe that their side is great because they've won the most seeded, bias competition in the world.It's nothing more than a white elephant. Shame really, footy was a great game Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:02:17 GMT+1 DrCajetanCoelho http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=67#comment132 I expected more fireworks and golden periods of domination from Mourinho's men. That did not happen. Apart from the two deadly strikes by Vidic and Ronaldo there was not much of a difference in what the two sides offered their adoring fans worldwide. Best wishes to Manchester United in their quest for maximum silverware. Dr. Cajetan Coelho Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:02:12 GMT+1 SitDownPinnochio http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=67#comment131 Frelnik #107 - I was basing you're feelings about United on previous posts I have read.You're posts today do not suggest you hate United but your previous posts certainly do!! Whether you do actually hate them or not I don't know.With regard to european dominance your view seems to have slightly changed. It has changed to being worried about English dominance to not agreeing about 4 teams from each league entering. That is 2 separate points.I actually agree with the latter. I think it should be only the league champs and the holders who go in, and I know if that was the case it would rule out both United's 99 win and liverpool's 05 win (as well as probably most other countries' teams wins since that format started!!)However I can't see it changing now and while its in the format it is, we might as well hope the English teams do well as it means ours is the strongest league. Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:58:29 GMT+1 The Trawler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=66#comment130 Are people deliberately missing the point about the English sides all getting to the latter stages of the European Cup?I don't want to go and watch United at Arsenal or at Liverpool. I want to go and watch them in Europe. I don't want to be there and back in half a day, I can do that every single season. I want to go somewhere exciting.I don't want to watch yet another game of two English teams going at it like lunatics, I want to see two teams with contrasting styles and cultures playing the beautiful game.Basically the European Cup is not meant to be same old same old. It's bad enough that the group stages have led to a bit of over-familiarity with certain teams from the continent without having all-English Euro aways.Sure they'll be some huge games if the draw pairs United with Chelsea and/or Liverpool. But give me Inter Milan, Barcelona and Bayern Munich any day. Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:56:44 GMT+1 bobbieflowers http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=66#comment129 @ mohtechnix comment 112firstly alonso isn't english his spainishsecondly, all the italian teams got knocked out so whats your point? There's no use bragging that all your players are home grown if you get dumped out of the competition every year no is there Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:54:20 GMT+1 kneerash http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=65#comment128 mohtechnix Im pretty sure Alonso is Spanish, I could be wrong But.... Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:51:45 GMT+1 Hughton is my brother - my captain - my king http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=65#comment127 Goodness me, the amount of bitterness here about Mourinho is unbelievable. Everyone is questioning his achievements, yet the UEFA Cup and Champ League in successive years is amazing, especially with Porto. Who cares if they played Monaco in the final, they beat Man Utd didnt they?And those league wins with Chelsea were phenomenal. He had loads of money? So did Man Utd and SAF, but they still couldnt beat him. Mourinho for the EPL!!! Preferably at St James' :)Hoping for a Barca - Man Utd/Liverpool final, they are always better when they are from different countries in the final. Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:50:20 GMT+1 sixty8ninety9zero8 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=64#comment126 RE 101. At 1:16pm on 12 Mar 2009, K?ll?ngh?lm?_Cl?? wrote:90. At 12:29pm on 12 Mar 2009, sixty8ninety9zero8 wrote:To quote rafa "Fact" Liverpool have beaten Chelsea Twice and have the opportunity to inflict the same fate to Man Utd on Saturday. even if they do, they will still trail both of their rivals in the league_______________________________________________________________________REALLY? Are you sure?So if Chelsea and Man Utd lose at the weekend the table (according to you) would look like:1. Man Utd 65 pts2. Chelsea 58 pts3. Liverpool 61 pts.Not sure your argument holds up or makes any sense. LOL___________________________________________________________________Well done.. your maths GCSE really worked out for you there.Should Liverpool win the table will look like this.1 Man Utd Played 28 Points 65 2 Liverpool Played 29 Points 613 Chelsea Played 28 Points 58Come back to me on Sunday after Chelsea have played Man City and I may be wrong but I am predicting 3 points for them at home. Which would then put them above you....Also Utd will still have the game in hand (recent history suggests Utd win their games in hand whereas Liverpool draw theirs)My point being having taken 6 points off each of your closest rivals you are still in a remarkably weak position to win the title.Simple enough? Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:48:52 GMT+1 Kíllìnghölmê_Clᥠ(aka Charlie Cheesecake) http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=64#comment125 106. At 1:21pm on 12 Mar 2009, CantTackleWontTackle Keep telling yourself that and eventually, even you will actually believe yourself. It might take you sometime though! Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:48:24 GMT+1 Were Ngoging to Ibiza http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=63#comment124 Personally I feel that Liverpool are slight favourites for the Champions League, obviously I would say that being a Liverpool fan but I have reasons! Manchester United have the Premiership all but sewn up and the Liverpool players will have this in the back of their mind, so will therefore have more focus and desire in the European matches, plus players like Torres, Mascherano and Reina haven't won the Champion's league so they will be as eager to win that as the Premiership and I think they will see the CL as the easier chance of silverware. I think we all also need to take Bayern Munich very seriously, I don't care how poorly Lisbon played, part of the reason they were so poor was Bayerns complete dominance and any team who scores 12 goals in two games whilst missing important players has to have a chance. Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:47:20 GMT+1 Wayne Rooney - The missing link - save 606 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=63#comment123 mohtechnix Not too sure about Alonso being English!! Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:44:05 GMT+1 Stokerambo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=62#comment122 The thing is, United didn't play particularly well, but won. They have done that alot this season. We haven't seen the spectacular football and miraculous form of Ronaldo this season, but Rooney is maturing, the defence is almost impregnable. What's more, lady luck is on United's side. It is reminiscent of the treble season - they churned out results and turned so many moments of adversity into victory that year. Like Mourinho said, you need commitment, a squad at its peak and a good portion of luck. The carling cup was by no means straight forward, anything can happen in the FA Cup or CL and the race to the title is by no means over. If it happens, it happens - Fergie would finally go down as the greatest ever manager in football. Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:36:39 GMT+1 RVP1968 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=62#comment121 Yes.....why dont we all concede and just go home. No team could ever expect to turn over the mighty Man Utd nor Alex Ferguson. Why bother?While we're at it, we could give Fergie the reins to the economy, he would sort that lot out. Give the banks a kick in the backside. Honestly, its not inconceivable that they could just win the league, to go with the league cup and dont get me started on that joke of a world championship, there are better teams scrapping in the qualifying rounds of champs league before it begins than in that competition. The FA cup is a one off game and any from 6 could conceivably win the Champions league. There is no doubt they are the best team in England so far this year but they way you guys are talking, for the most part, is way too sycophantic. And a little too premature too. Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:32:50 GMT+1 Give_Me_A_Break http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=61#comment120 "As for the Quarters.....Well their are six established European clubs and two less distinguished clubs. if the English clubs want to avoid each other two of them must come up against Barca and Bayern"Post # 105 - who are the less distinguished clubs? Surely you don't include Porto in that - they have won the European Cup as many times as Barcelona, you know. Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:26:56 GMT+1 kneerash http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=61#comment119 The BBC show favouritism to Utd because they are still afraid of Fergie - The English Media as a whole is a joke, all blinded by the disease known as Englishness, for real punditry watch RTE in Ireland - Graham Souness does a CL match for RTE on a Tuesday and Sky on a Wednesday, Souness stated when he first started working for RTE that English media will not allow you openly criticize a player, the boys on RTE will openly call a player/team/manager rubbish - When England beat Trinidad and Tobago in the World cup Garth Crooks went up to Sven and said you got you tactics right despite that win being probably the worst performance by an English side in an international competition - turn over to RTE and the boys said and I quote: "that's the closest thing I have ever seen to 2 men having s*x on live TV" - now that’s a pundit....All this narking back and fourth is pointless, a united fan will never openly admit Rafa Benitez is a good manager who has improved LFC dramatically over his 5 years - Give Rafa 20 odd years and he will have a stack of trophies.... To compare Rafa and Fergie is like comparing Nick Faldo and Rory McElroy...makes no sense Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:17:49 GMT+1 Eddy Cordoza http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=60#comment118 Number 83: Kllnghlm_Cl"I'm sure if you lent me your Prawn Sandwich flavoured glasses..."You've kind of shot yourself in the foot with that comment. The media lept on that "prawn sandwich" comment - surely if they were so pro-United, as you suggest, they would have brushed it under the carpet. ps - just checked the official Liverpool website and apparently "our match day hospitality packages make every effort to maintain tradition. We have just expanded the range of facilities available due to demand..." And yes, they do have prawn sandwiches on the menu. Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:09:36 GMT+1 Northern_Dancer http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=60#comment117 Am I missing something here? English clubs apparently dominate because they earn more money from Sky and Setanta and spend more on players than other European clubs. So the solution is to limit spending according to turnover (which is higher for English clubs due to TV money) thus meaning the rules will state that non-English clubs can't spend as much as English clubs. That will address the situation... Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:06:18 GMT+1 Ferdinaldooney http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=59#comment116 No. 43:Agree completely... Barca couldn't get one past us last season and barely troubled VDS. I think its safe to say that Lyon's defence isn't the best in the world!!! Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:02:08 GMT+1 HarryLondon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=58#comment115 This post has been Removed Thu 12 Mar 2009 14:01:43 GMT+1 CraigB http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=58#comment114 All this talk of a quintuple.Community Shield - WonWorld Club Cup - WonCarling Cup - WonFA Cup - Semi finalPremier League - 7pts clear and game in handChampions League - Quarter finals.Is that not sixtuple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:58:16 GMT+1 Icecold_00 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=57#comment113 @19 K?ll?ngh?lm?_Cl? You could have chosen these comments from the BBC match report, a Man Utd fan could complain for the same reason u have!Real Madrid 0-1 Liverpool "Liverpool put themselves in a strong position to overcome Real Madrid in the Champions League by beating the Spaniards with a professional display"Inter Milan 0-0 Man Utd "Manchester United dominated for much of this lively Champions League last-16 clash but had to settle for a goalless draw with Inter Milan at the San Siro."Liverpool4-0 "The brutal truth for Real was that they were outclassed, with Liverpool underlining their vast superiority"Man Utd 2-0 Inter "Manchester United survived a nervous night against Inter Milan to reach the last eight of the Champions League"Depends which bit u pick out really. Articles will always have a variety of writing in them. Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:48:05 GMT+1 cs15hammer http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=57#comment112 As soon as English teams do well the detractors and rule changers come in. 'The English have too many foreign players', lets change the rules.... Spanish and Italians have done this for years. 'The big 4 are too powerful and get too much money'.... so the biggest Spanish and Italian clubs havent dominated through power domestically and in Europe for long either (sometimes through foul means) (look at Milan with the media, business and political leadership behind them) (look at what Real and Barca have done to dominate the game there) (look at what Bayern have done in Germany)? Too many English sides doing well..... Spanish and Italian sides had 3 in the semis and 2 in the finals before. It's only apparently the English that have unfair advantages and are bad for the game. When the Italians and Spanish do it everyone just says well done. I would say there is more competition in England than in Spain where at least we have 4 big teams (and other threatening to join) remaining a constant this decade, whilst Spain mainly just has 2 sides winning the title and creaming resources decade after decade. Real and Barca get to cream their nation and this gives them an advantage in Europe, but no when the English sides do well through resourcefulness and hard work and some genius, the rule supposedly need to be re-written.... (by the continentals I might add)... Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:48:02 GMT+1 mohtechnix http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=56#comment111 On your comments in post 91 above Phil. I completely disagree with your optimism that 4 English teams will make the Semi final..We have seen porto trash Arsenal earlier in the tournamnet, Utd haven't won against Villareal in four games and I do not see that Chelsea team beating Bayern or Barca so I wouldn't be suprise if only one English team end up in the semi's neither...Comments above also claim that only one italian player started for inter: This is true but if we look at the overall reperesentatives of each countries in the tournament, the ratio of italian to english players is imcomparable.Juvy Italian starters: Moilinaro, Buffon, Chiellini, Legrothali, Del piero, Iaquinta, Camoranesi.Roma italian starters: Doni, Motta, Diamoutene, Aquillani, De Rossi, Perotta, Totti, TonettoInter: Santo and Balotelli.Fiorentina: All italian apart form Frey, Mutu and Almiron (On loan from juvy) .Man utd English starters: Carrick, Ferdinand, Scholes, Rooney. Aresenal English starters: NoneChelsea English Starters: Cole, Lampard and Terry.Liverpool: Gerrard and Alonso. Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:44:36 GMT+1 superGuru79 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=56#comment110 jose lacks the poise and polish required of a Man.U Coach hehehe i was 6 years old when SAF started coaching M.U what do i know LOL Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:39:50 GMT+1 superGuru79 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=55#comment109 We weren't pretty that's for sure but we got the result...Liverpool were brilliant but one suspects they may not rise to the occasion on sunday.. sometimes a team gives the best of the season at the wrong time they could have been laid back and still beaten Real to save that for for man U. good for us though if indeed that's the case Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:37:51 GMT+1 used2beprofi http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=55#comment108 i hope all the talk about united's "dominance" can finally be put to rest. i hope last night did show most of you that united are not infallible and certainly can be defeated by a team with quality that takes their chances... Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:27:32 GMT+1 Daggers http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=54#comment107 Don't understand your comment Phil about the draw being kind in keeping the English teams apart. It isn't being made till a week tomorrow is it? Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:23:01 GMT+1 My Good Self http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=54#comment106 REDCOTTS #85I do support Rovers. Thanks for taking an interest in my past posts. But I don't 'hate' United. Allow you are local rivals there are much closer teams in respect to geography and competition that I have to worry about more. However, as United are local rivals I am not that keen on them but I do respect their ability and success.I would also welcome an English team winning the CL over a number of seasons. Even if it was Liverpool or United - if they deserved the title then I'd value their success. But I am of the old fashioned nature that only the champions of each countries top flight division should be in the CL. I do admit though that as a Rover I can't pretend to support any of the English teams in the CL just beacuse they are English. I am a Rover supporter first and foremost. I would also be equally critical of the CL if Spanish or Italian teams were repeatedly making up most of the QF or SF draw due to my earlier comment on existing league champions. Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:22:33 GMT+1 Wayne Rooney - The missing link - save 606 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=53#comment105 Although I support United I will give praise where its due - Liverpool played very well on Tuesday - but they can't produce the same consistantly. Blaming the media for simply pointing this out is indeed incredibly bitter haha!! Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:21:53 GMT+1 LiveFromOT http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=53#comment104 Last 16 analysisGood win from United, not at their flowing best but a professional display none the lessFantastic win for Liverpool but i must stress that the Real Madrid team lacked quality in certain areas and area a shadow of a team they once wasRemember the names Zidane, Ronaldo, Raul, Roberto Carlos, Figo? the Galactico era when they ruled EuropeLiverpool will take some knocking out and as a United fan hopefully the draw picks Liverpool as a first leg home side otherwise any team who faces them will be in troubleSketchy win for Chelsea and will be interesting to see what happens if they come up against a true world-class team like Bayern MunichArsenal, well all i can say is they better hope for a good draw otherwise they probably will be saying goodbye for this yearAs for the Quarters.....Well their are six established European clubs and two less distinguished clubs. if the English clubs want to avoid each other two of them must come up against Barca and BayernIt promises to be a mouthwatering fixture list come the Quarter finals Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:20:48 GMT+1 There is no Silicon Heaven http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=52#comment103 Another excellent week for English teams in the Champions League, I am already salivating at the prospect of all fours teams making the semis (UEFA fix the draw, of course). Dream line-up for the next round:Barca v. LiverpoolBayern v. UnitedChelsea v. PortoArsenal v. VillarealAn all-Premiership affair in the semi-finals has Platini crying into his cassoulet! Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:20:46 GMT+1 Daggers http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=52#comment102 I think the Jose-for-Old-Trafford theory might be a reason why he was so magnanimous in defeat last night. But he said United were playing at the top of their powers, or some such words, suggesting further improvement wouldn't be possible. I'm not sure I agree with that. There are still 15 games to win before United get near the quintuple and I expect each one of them to be as tough as last night. Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:19:42 GMT+1 Ydiss http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=51#comment101 All this talk about 4 English teams reaching the Semi final is the death knell of Football is ridiculous. The event can be avoided simply by the four teams being drawn against another English team in the Quarter Final.So, is that the saviour of Football?Silly.If they all manage, by a stretch of luck, to avoid each other in the Quarters and they all reach the Semi Final it is because they deserve to.Oh, the horror. A nation of teams does well for a few years in a competition... What nation is it? England? Oh, dear... Can't have that! Must be the sign of the end of the world!Ludicrous.I was there when we finally got back into European competition after the ban and United were the only team there. We managed to win that Cup Winners Cup final but English teams didn't come CLOSE to dominating in Europe for another ten years at least.So, in that time, where were all the cries for the end of football as we know it when the other nations were doing well?Typical. English sport finds any kind of success at all and the first thing we do is find cause to criticise it or make it out to be a bad thing. Pathetic, really.After those years of being knocked out by Gallatassaray and beaten 4-0 by Barca, I'm enjoying these years of dominance very much, thank you.What's the alternative? Share the ECL? Is it a time share now? If we win it too much should we give it up to make football better?Ridiculous. Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:17:17 GMT+1 Kíllìnghölmê_Clᥠ(aka Charlie Cheesecake) http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=51#comment100 90. At 12:29pm on 12 Mar 2009, sixty8ninety9zero8 wrote:To quote rafa "Fact" Liverpool have beaten Chelsea Twice and have the opportunity to inflict the same fate to Man Utd on Saturday. even if they do, they will still trail both of their rivals in the league_______________________________________________________________________REALLY? Are you sure?So if Chelsea and Man Utd lose at the weekend the table (according to you) would look like:1. Man Utd 65 pts2. Chelsea 58 pts3. Liverpool 61 pts.Not sure your argument holds up or makes any sense. LOL Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:16:55 GMT+1 shinyAllspark http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=50#comment99 I think what annoys Liverpool fans is that when Man U play poorly but win its the mark of champions but when Liverpool do it they're lucky or simply poor.As for last night, Inter didn't make United pay for their mistake or take their chances and you can't expect to win if you don't do either. Liverpool were just clinical against Madrid and frankly tore them apart. I agree with Phil, Arsenal won't win the CL but I think Liverpool or Man Utd might Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:12:41 GMT+1 danchu_uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=50#comment98 Just a few things to add about last nights performance. I don't think we played that badly, for sure we gave the ball away a little to much, and that gave them the confidence to come at us. They were unlucky not to get a goal, but then we missed 2 gilt edged chances, (O'Shea, and Berba)ourselves. And the fact is the 2 goals we did get were sublime. Vidic's header was right out of the top drawer, losing his marker, to make a good clean connection, with direction and power. And the ball Rooney put in for Rons goal was just pure class. I thought Rooney was the man of the match last night. He really showed what a team player he is, asked to do a job, and did it with distinction. Ibrahimavich (spell check lol) on the other hand was poor in front of goal, the one that the bar should have been scored, and he showed no commitment to get at another chance in the second half. For sure I think Adriano was unlucky when he hit the post, but thats football me thinks,and that was the difference between the two sides.As for Mourinho being a true world class boss, i think he has proved himself more than once. When he was at Porto, I remember going to see them play Panathinikos in quarter finals of the UEFA cup the year before they won the CL. They lost the 1st leg 3-1 at home and needed to turn that around in the 2nd leg in Athens, probably one of the hardest places to go in europe to get a result. He went over there and stuffed them 3-0, and went on the lift the trophy. He is class, and as a Man U fan we'd do well to have him, when SAF finally calls it a day. But as someone mentioned on here, I think he'll have a fight on his hands with a certain Mr O'Neil.Just one more thing, I love the fact the EPL is so dominent in the CL at the moment. Should Man U get knocked out before the final, i'll screamng and shouting for the English team that is there, (surly there will be a least one). Gt behind your country people, we have so much to be proud off. Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:01:20 GMT+1 My Good Self http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=49#comment97 Phil McNulty #91If the moderator's were to pull their fingers out and actually turn posts around much quicker I suppose we could post our feelings on this blog better.I don't even want to see the top 4 of a league entered into the CL. It should be the winners and the winners only.Of course the new money grabbing UEFA format of allowing up to four teams from one country in was always going to lead to this scenario and as such Platini has to look internally before criticising English teams.But you are supposed to be a professional sports journalist. Surely you can recognise that the European Cup has lost some of it's charm since the invention of the CL.Sure look at the criticisms about the second round of round robin league format which correctly UEFA got rid to focus more on knockout football. But I feel more should be done to make the CL more attractive.I wasn't in favour of two Italian or two Spanish teams meeting in the final when they did and I am equally not in favour of English teams meeting in the final.In fact, if UEFA want to maintain at most four teams can enter from one country then get rid of this nonsense with regard to them not being allowed to meet each other until knockout stages. Let them meet each other in the league stages. Thu 12 Mar 2009 12:55:04 GMT+1 footballandethics http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=49#comment96 This post has been Removed Thu 12 Mar 2009 12:53:13 GMT+1 RonniesRock http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/jose-bows-to-man-utd-power.html?page=48#comment95 Fergie made the mistake of playing Giggs and Scholes - both tried to play in the same position and therefore upset the midfield balance. Should have played Giggs and Carrick with Park out wide. It took Fergie too long to change things - I think Mourinho (if in Fergie's position) would have acted much sooner.As for Liverpool, Middlesborough 2 Liverpool 0 says all you need to know, i.e. even 'Boro are better than Real Madrid! No Premiership for Anfield while Benitez is manager - long may he reign! Thu 12 Mar 2009 12:49:28 GMT+1