Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html en-gb 30 Fri 19 Sep 2014 23:15:30 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html dennisjunior1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=92#comment12 thanks for your networks reporting on the olympics. Tue 09 Dec 2008 23:42:47 GMT+1 Bloofs http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=84#comment11 The commentators who are unhappy with the portrayal of China miss one vital element: the Communist Party. Blame the Chinese Communist Party for any negative image associated with China. China does not have to be like this, it *can* (and will) be a full democracy with full freedoms. If the Nationalists had won the civil war, China would have been better off (just look at Taiwan to see how far ahead that country was / is in terms of social and economic development). Of course, under such a regime there would have been abuses, but the nature of capitalism would have forced freedoms earlier. Look at the difference between North and South Korea. The Communist Party has consistently held China back. I know it's easy to say and difficult to do, but time to get rid of the Party, China. I wish you luck. Sat 18 Oct 2008 15:11:51 GMT+1 JadedJean http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=76#comment10 CHEERING FOR THE WRONG TEAM?Censurea (#9) "This is an Olympic Games taking place in a totalitarian state where there are no human rights or any of the freedoms we take for granted. What happens happens to the greater glory of the vile regime and their criminal leaders"Read the PRC constitution. Western Human Rights are the means whereby nationalist, democratic-centralist or even Old Labour style governments are undermined and anarchistic, i.e de-regulated, free-market Liberal-Democracy is ensured. The problem is, the latter isn't preserving biological fitness, it's literally killing us off. Look at the the Liberal-Democracies' population trends. Finally, do you have any evidence that the Chinese leaders are criminals? Do you fully appreciate that you may be cheering for the wrong team? Sun 07 Sep 2008 14:01:14 GMT+1 HAYDON http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=69#comment9 "What does this Mirsky say? He compares it to a Nazi parade. HOW DARE HE! "------leelau,That is because any parade in the world is compared to a Nazi parade. Many Brits are devoid of any original thought when it comes to artistic achievements.They will use the same words when the London Olympics open in 2012. Tue 12 Aug 2008 20:33:22 GMT+1 Paddy Briggs http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=61#comment8 Utterly sick-making, sycophantic commentary from the BBC commentators at the opening ceremony. It was as if they were reading out from a propaganda sheet handed to them by the Chinese Government. The images were powerful enough and there was no need for the gratuitous “haven’t they done well” verbiage. This is an Olympic Games taking place in a totalitarian state where there are no human rights or any of the freedoms we take for granted. What happens happens to the greater glory of the vile regime and their criminal leaders – many of whom were shown to the sounds of fawning approval from Gabby and her ignorant band. Shameful. Mon 11 Aug 2008 08:02:55 GMT+1 manchester_me http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=53#comment7 Hi Jasmin, I wanted to run something past you. The Guardian are reporting the following, "It was the mother of all conference calls. No fewer than 472 BBC staff were hanging on the telephone 10 days ago to discuss its coverage of the upcoming US party conventions. Yet more ammunition for those who say the BBC has lavished too much attention on the US elections already."We've been drowning in US election coverage on Newsnight for months now and I'd like to think that the flagship news programme could be a little more innovative about showing news than just showing the stage managed jamboree that is the US election.There are so many events that occur around the globe, to concentrate so much on just one is a terrible expenditure of of licence fee money. I hope Newsnight can take this into account, rather than just following the crowd. Here's to a bright new regime! Sun 10 Aug 2008 17:49:06 GMT+1 JunkkMale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=46#comment6 ps: Speaking of cutting edge news gathering, reporting and editorial, looking top right on this page is there something I don't know?:Reporting the GamesADMIN USE ONLY Fri 8 Aug 08, 06:23 PM'This is the Newsnight editor's blog, where editor Peter Barron, and some of his colleagues, will discuss issues affecting the programme.'FarewellPeter BarronWed 30 Jul 08, 01:39 PMOk then, I'm off.After four years at Newsnight this is my final editor's blog. I'm off to Google Sat 09 Aug 2008 06:53:19 GMT+1 JunkkMale http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=38#comment5 '...allegations by the Georgian President that 150 Russian tanks and other vehicles have entered South Ossetia.'I know everyone is on holiday or at the Games 'reporting' sports, but it would be awfully nice to get some news of value from elsewhere. Perhaps if there was a suggestion that the Russian synchronised invasion team was using steroids to help lift the shells?I'm sure it's on the BBC somewhere, but I clicked on just now for an update on what I thought was the news channel, and ended up with wall to wall prancing ponies who, apparently, 'The hosts had spared no expense to put in a/c stables'.The world can rest easy.ps: Meanwhile, this from SKY, my new source of actual News: 'Russia On Verge Of All-Out War' Sat 09 Aug 2008 06:44:56 GMT+1 mademoiselle_h http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=30#comment4 Their method is set rules you must play by if you wish to speak. These rules become ever more bizarre based on what they have been brainwashed as 'truth' that we are all imperialist colonial aggressors of capitalism yada yada.- bookhimdanoSay the same thing to the Russians, and you are golden....NOT! Fri 08 Aug 2008 23:33:20 GMT+1 mademoiselle_h http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=23#comment3 Frankly, I was a little worried that China would crumble under pressure and fail to pull off the show, after facing criticisms and hostility on so many levels/ issues, as well as deliberate attempts by various interest groups and activists to sabotage the Games during the torch relay. The opening ceremony was a fantastic performance, and deserves pride and joy to all those involved. Well done China, you have shown the courage, tolerance and wisdom in order to rise up to the challenges standing in your way. As a Chinese, I have never been so optimistic and confident about my country’s future. Fri 08 Aug 2008 23:28:54 GMT+1 leelau http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=15#comment2 I am furious with Newsnight for inviting that narrow minded intellectual Jonathon Mirsky on to comment about the Olympics Opening Ceremony. Of course it was a beautiful and fascinating piece of work and very aesthetically crafted. What does this Mirsky say? He compares it to a Nazi parade. HOW DARE HE! Why are western people allowed to insult China like this? Is he aware of what the Nazi's did? How can he make such a comparison? I tell you why - he hates China and he is a poisoness little bigot. I very much admired the British/Chinese guests who kept their cool and answered him intelligently but of course he was not listening. He was just consumed with bigotry and hatred towards this nation and living with an idea of China that does not exist. He kept on saying 'they want us to believe in all this pretence and lies' who is THEY? He does not realise that 'THEY' are the so called 'oppressed' people (ha ha they do not exist), the thousands of free Chinese people who came to the stadium to watch the event and the others who may have performed etc etc. These so called 'oppressed ' people looked very happy to the rest of the world. So who is 'THEY' oh I know, it is the Chinese nation which Mirsky is very ignorant of and thinks he understands. Why did Newsnight have such a poisoness critic on - he was insulting. Fri 08 Aug 2008 22:52:11 GMT+1 Hastings http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=7#comment1 My only experience of China was many years ago, when it was less open than now. It was but 2 days in Beijing on a business related matter.But like many other places I have visited round the world, I did not find a wave of oppression hanging over the county.Yes, the rule, especially then, is uncompromising, and yes, the state can be cruel rather than risk the status quo.But down on the streets, people still yelled at each other (Chinese are good at that!), laughed with each other, even bartered with each other.But did they walk round carrying the weight of their unfair society?No - they got on with living within the system - just like the rest of us do.I dearly want to see China change - but for the right reasons, not a mythology grown in the west. Fri 08 Aug 2008 19:43:09 GMT+1 bookhimdano http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/editorsblog/2008/08/reporting_the_games.html?page=0#comment0 ultra nationalist chinese posters have been spamming news boards for the last few months now. Their method is set rules you must play by if you wish to speak. These rules become ever more bizarre based on what they have been brainwashed as 'truth' that we are all imperialist colonial aggressors of capitalism yada yada. Its a clash of civilisations. They worship the collective we choose the individual. There is no meeting point....I'll be attempting to keep the flag flying over the summer.....is that a red flag? ;) Fri 08 Aug 2008 18:19:15 GMT+1