Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html en-gb 30 Fri 24 Oct 2014 16:31:51 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html Nudged http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=97#comment43 What the hell has this country come to ! Back in the 70's my life was scarred by the miners stike, power cuts when I was trying to do my homework, power cuts during Sunday lunch ! Then came a polititian that turned that around and said "NO!" The unions then had to release their strangle hold on the country. We seem to have stepped back to those times. I'm a small businesman that opperates on the internet and relies on the Royal Mail to deliver cheques to me so I can run my business, pay my suppliers and feed my family. Running with limited cash flow plus the state of the current economy I WILL GO OUT OF BUSINESS WITHIN 10 DAYS! This is all due to the Royal Mail !I cannot be the only one in this situation. Where are the government in all this? I fear they are protecting their donated finances from the unions as there is an election on the horizon. This action has to stop !!!!!YoursANGRY ! Thu 29 Oct 2009 03:15:23 GMT+1 gizzajob2 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=95#comment42 Mr ModeratatorYou've published this, Is it just the Scots we can't answer back to GUTLESS, NAUSEATING and TOTALLY COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE.What is it like to be a Moderator and have no B#LLS at all because the BBC ELITE have emasculated you!? Wed 28 Oct 2009 17:36:18 GMT+1 gizzajob2 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=93#comment41 I REPLIED IN KIND TO MATHCAMPBELLas a Scots nationalist. When (hopefully not if) we get independence, I fully intend to lobby the new Government to setup a new Scottish Mail Service, which will allow no competition, provide a service not a product, and even perhaps re-institute the post-ferries etc. in the isles. It'd be cruel to do so, but if the ENglish at that point don't see the error of their ways and bring back the Royal Mail in a likewise fashion, perhaps we will bid on services in England to help bulk up profits a bit. One way or another, you'll learn.AND GUESS WHAT, I WAS REPORTED TO THE MODERATOR.SINCE WHEN HAS THE BBC BECOME THE STASI? Wed 28 Oct 2009 17:33:33 GMT+1 Starburst_995 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=90#comment40 1. At 5:24pm on 22 Oct 2009, ajs_dy wrote:Everyone, please remember the Royal Mail.And one day in future, when the postal service has been privatised; when you have to refer to a book of confusing tables (which you have to pay for a new one of, when the prices change) to find out how much it is going to cost you, to send what size and weight of letter, to where in the world (starting at £1 for a small envelope just to the next street); when you can be charged for receiving items of mail; and when there is a steady supply of advertising junk mail through your letter box from which you cannot opt-out because "it helps to pay for the service",Remember that this is exactly what you gave your approval to, if you did not support the striking postal workers in 2009.----------------------------------------------------And the day that happens I'll simply get a hammer, a piece of wood and four nails to stop up the mail slot and tell all and sundry they can E-mail me. Wed 28 Oct 2009 15:54:03 GMT+1 gizzajob2 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=88#comment39 This post has been Removed Tue 27 Oct 2009 16:34:42 GMT+1 milo911 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=86#comment38 Part of this action is about how agreements are interpreted by local managers in different areas.the 2007 agreement should have been universal, but managers at a local level,changed things to how they thought things should be done = disaster.The C.W.U. might have been formed in 1995, but how long was the U.P.W. Union of postoffice Workers going before that, a long time Tue 27 Oct 2009 14:02:46 GMT+1 SSnotbanned http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=84#comment37 News I: Hope you found the Location of St. Nicholas Abbey to your satisfaction.News II: Black Crow is back from fieldwork.Business:BC wouldn't approve but I shall let you into a little known secret. There is a notion that as people of certain generation(s) move from their teenage to middle age years, they carry forward the music of their times.Thus the people who have influence and power of today are rooted in the past.The economic bubble burst as 'punk rock'' reality came upon us.Now in 2009 we have the ''new wave'' as the dominating excerciser.Don't say you haven't been warned that in Autumn 2012 we will see the influence of New Romanticsm.Of course smaller influences will work into thwe system as well.Can't even the BBC see ''Who Makes The Nazis''?I prefer ''A Figure Walks'' on Step Forward.If Adam Crozier likes Depeche Mode, then that would say it all really.''Nails, of pointed yellow...''[Yellow Leaves 2009] Tue 27 Oct 2009 12:05:00 GMT+1 adampsb http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=81#comment36 The CWU need to move into the modern world and accept efficiences and business change or liek Arthur Scargill they are going to have a much smaller union when half their members are out of work after costing Royal Mail the large delivery contracts that keep them in some semblance of profitable business Mon 26 Oct 2009 10:24:03 GMT+1 Fluffzig http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=79#comment35 Asset: A useful or valuable quality, person, or thing; an advantage or resource.The PO/Royal Mail is an asset, ie: it is useful, valuable, and advantageous resource........On that basis it seems somewhat foolish to sell it. Mon 26 Oct 2009 01:08:49 GMT+1 Doctor Bob http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=77#comment34 Crozier and "the management" have simply no idea of the working practices of postal staff, particularly those trudging sacks of post around to people's doors. They have no regard for these people having jobs so they can pay their mortgages and feed their families. Industrial relations in Royal Mail are appalling. Is there something REALLY wrong with a happy workplace? Low morale probably costs Royal Mail (i.e. us, the taxpayers) a fair amount. It's the difference between giving an extra couple of minutes at the end of a shift to finish a task; whether feeling unwell you throw a sickie or attend work; how conscientious you are about all aspects of your duties. The management seem to have forgotten that we in the UK can be proud of a postal system that is tantamount to a social service.The politicians are no better - they're comfortably off with or without expenses, on nice pensions. To them the current problem is something to argue over, not a problem to solve.The Tories lost my vote over several things. One was the threat to privatise Royal Mail. It belongs to US, the taxpayers. If anything needs referenda it is matters like this so that WE can decide what we want: a profit driven business dependent on consumers - or a customer service. You don't need a Philadelphia lawyer to tell you that customer service goes to the wall when a public service/utility is privatised.I don't particularly support strikes but I can well understand the feeling of postal staff. I doubt it is about money, particularly. More the way staff are treated. Sun 25 Oct 2009 22:11:59 GMT+1 ikamaskeip http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=75#comment33 I just realised!My previous Comment may have been taken as partly criticism of your efforts Mr Easton.Nothing could be further from the truth. Reliable, no hyperbolic flourishes, sensitive to the 'topic', discriminating between the illuminating and the plainly illuminated - - this Blog sets the standard to which others should aspire.For what it's worth, this Blog is the only Blog that consistently attracts my interest and support.Cheers, Mr Easton - - a BBC Journo who hasn't lost his way in 'corporate strategy' is a rare Media HUMAN indeed! Sat 24 Oct 2009 23:38:20 GMT+1 ikamaskeip http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=72#comment32 This post has been Removed Sat 24 Oct 2009 21:42:52 GMT+1 MrWonderfulReality http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=70#comment31 This post has been Removed Sat 24 Oct 2009 10:53:22 GMT+1 elfrieda http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=68#comment30 Why has it all come down to this !! we need the post office and the postmen and women , its a good deal we moan everytime a stamp goes up but hey its still pretty cheap , its the government who like with the NHS Transport and services ..want it to be privateised , sell it off to probably a foreign company, train travel is over the top, the NHS is almost run down even though money is thrown at it, its time to have these things nationalised again , everything seems to revolve around how much money the fat cats can get , the past few months have shown us just how awful the government and bankers etc really are. we need a total rethink on so many things to get this country back again. Sat 24 Oct 2009 10:48:52 GMT+1 MathCampbell http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=65#comment29 The problem with the Royal Mail is, as many have said, the Government has tried to turn a service into a business.The Royal Mail does not exist to make a profit. It's nice if it does, but that is not it's purpose. It's purpose is to deliver mail. The USPS is one of the best in the world, because their Government realised that if you allow private companies to come in and make money on the higher-profit services, who will pay for the expensive stuff, like universal service to some tiny island in the middle of nowhere?In this country though, TNT can bid for a service, lacking the Royal Mail's huge overheads, win a contract to deliver, say, 20,000 leaflets to homes in x-town for Y-Company, then pickup said leaflets from the Y-company HQ and drive straight down to Royal Mail's sorting office, pay a nominal fee and have them delivered, reaping all the money between.No, Royal Mail HAS to be re-granted it's monopoly. Sure, a company might have to pay more for it's letters to be mass-mailed, but for the Greater Good, tough.The Post Office is one of the few UK establishments I have any lingering pride in, as a Scots nationalist. When (hopefully not if) we get independence, I fully intend to lobby the new Government to setup a new Scottish Mail Service, which will allow no competition, provide a service not a product, and even perhaps re-institute the post-ferries etc. in the isles. It'd be cruel to do so, but if the ENglish at that point don't see the error of their ways and bring back the Royal Mail in a likewise fashion, perhaps we will bid on services in England to help bulk up profits a bit. One way or another, you'll learn. Fri 23 Oct 2009 15:33:06 GMT+1 SSnotbanned http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=63#comment28 People Poor management want to save their bacon by unduely pressurising Royal Mail staff to make up for their business skill deficiences.P Mandelson wants to open up the postal business to his European chums. Big Bonuses for management, and not for the workers who actually do the job.The reality is that the management are working not with, but against the grain of process of those they seek to manage, hence the industrial action.Some ask how flexible are the delivery,counter,sorting,e.t.c.staff,...how flexible is the management ??For how long, and by how much, must prices go up to pay for all this ?? Fri 23 Oct 2009 15:30:57 GMT+1 JadedJean http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=61#comment27 SusieWoosey (#26) There was a 'liberal' revolution in the 17th which put an end to all that. It's what Trotsky modelled his army on. It's still not sinking in is it? We are the anarchists. :-( Fri 23 Oct 2009 11:49:57 GMT+1 Ernie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=59#comment26 I'm happy for John who lives on a small island-off-an-island in Northern Scotland, he seems to get better service than we do in London.Over the last year so much of the small amount I post has either been lost or delayed that frankly I don't give a monkeys if the whole thing is wound up. further strike action achieves nothing but to reinforce the idea that the PO is unreliable and in desperate need of a total reorganisation, which the workers are resisting with all their might.I wish they realised that they're only hurting themselves. Fri 23 Oct 2009 11:44:24 GMT+1 SusieWoosey http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=56#comment25 I always thought it was the 'Royal Mail', so doesn't her Majesty have some say in whether it is sold off or not?If I were her I would send the lot of you to the tower for even daring to suggest selling it off. Fri 23 Oct 2009 10:47:34 GMT+1 Elysiumfire http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=54#comment24 The ubiquitous red pillar box represented interconnection for all the diverse and disparate villages constellated around the Royal realm, and thus, it is by this manner that this iconic letter bin would be both mourned and missed should the British public lose 'their' Royal Mail. Fri 23 Oct 2009 08:52:53 GMT+1 JadedJean http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=52#comment23 Addendum (#10) Britons were world renowned (and respected) for their sense of fair play (cricket in administration), even when building their empire. Some of our immigrant groups are renowned for precisely the opposite, something Britons learned whilst building and defending their empire. Other groups like Britons were the Germans, Scandinavians, Japanese and even the Soviets - today, the PRC Chinese.New Labour are wreckers. For their true colours see how Russia recently referred to them....and note how the PRC and SCO supports. There is nothing socialist about New Labour... Fri 23 Oct 2009 08:27:58 GMT+1 balancedthought http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=50#comment22 Dear Posties, the reality is we are in this mess because of your unwillingness to move to fairly normal working conditions - you don't want to let the managers manage, you don't want to accept that the world has fundamentally changed in the last 10 years. Rather than trying to work this out you constantly seek to go over the head of management and appeal to the government - like a child playing mummy off against daddy. IF the government does not give you what you want you go to the country.Every time you politicise the post you make the sell off more likely. Every time you refuse to use new technology you make the sell off more likely. What you should have been doing is arguing for increases in pay so you could have retained staff especially in London where it seems impossible to get post delivered within 5 days. What we could have had was a modern - but labour intensive - reasonably high paid - low skilled operation - with universal coverage. God only know s the Valhalla that will be unleashed when you are privatised - we will all have lost a really vital part of our community.Equally the willingness to politicise the operations of the post office mean that they undermine the ability of the managers to get a grip of a difficult working environment.On the publics side the pathetic noise that has been thrown up everytime the post office wants to put 1p on a letter has made it unprofitable - if we still want universal coverage.The only people who will win will be the multinationals waiting in the wings - ohh guess who owns a lot of shares in TNT?I predict in 2 years time more than half of the current workforce will have been cut, and we will all have a worse postal system - well done everyone.I think I will have a lie down. Fri 23 Oct 2009 08:22:15 GMT+1 elfrieda http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=47#comment21 The government smile and tut how sad but they must keep up with the times ohh like they do ! the Post office and postal service is very much needed , not everyone has a computer etc. if it is privatised it will be down hill all they way , just look what we pay for the essential services , and try to complain about them.. we are being sold to the highest bidder by unelected people ,whenever have you seen anything come down in price that has been privatised . Fri 23 Oct 2009 07:46:36 GMT+1 watriler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=45#comment20 The postal service is and has to be a public service - it is not an industry nor can it be run like TNT. If post services were run on commercial basis our fellow brits at the extemities would get a weekly delivery at a cost of £10 and the rest of us would have to figure our way round 20 different charging tariffs frequently changing. It is bad enough with the current creeping commercialisation from the management and government. As the use of the service is in decline natural wastage can facilitate the downsizing that is inevitable as boomers retire. The degradation of this service is confirmation that modernisation does not means improvement.However all is not lost, in Stevenage we still have the second post - it was the first post they abolished! Fri 23 Oct 2009 07:41:54 GMT+1 Brian_NE37 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=43#comment19 What a load of twaddle that Tom Nairn piece is. Fri 23 Oct 2009 05:32:56 GMT+1 clamdip lobster claws http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=40#comment18 I'm curious to know the security ramifications regarding the Royal Mail if it too were to be sold to a private company? In America, the Federal government "secures" the mail from any possible threats like anthrax. Is it conceivable that a government mail institution might fall into the hands of a private contractor? That would be really worrisome from a security standpoint. Fri 23 Oct 2009 03:17:39 GMT+1 John Ellis http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=38#comment17 no ones listening and the strike will provide the government with the opportunity for back door privatisation, once the mail system gets backed up enough it will lock up. @ that point millions of pounds of goods payments etc will be sat there undelivered, here comes the help a few private companies to deal with the back log working alongside until private ownership is totally complete. employment agencies will broker staff and mail will rise in cost to send... Fri 23 Oct 2009 01:57:15 GMT+1 jr4412 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=36#comment16 this is so good and straight to the point, it bears repeating:arny5000 #8 wrote:"I touches a nerve with me because I find the Royal Mail is a lot better than its private competition. It's simple to use with simple, easy to understand, consistent pricing with no confusing special offers. It's cheaper than its competition for most packages (pence verses pounds on lightweight items). I find it quick and reliable. It's convenient; there's Post Offices all over town, within walking distance. And most of all I don't have to wait in for deliveries - the Royal Mail will deliver without requiring a signature, and if I do miss a delivery the depot is only 2 miles away from me and open long hours, compared to the private couriers who's depots always seem to be 20 urban miles away.So basically we have a state owned organisation that does a good job compared to the private sector. I fear the politicians will ruin it purely for the reasons of capitalist political dogma, just as they've done with electricity and gas, only worse." Thu 22 Oct 2009 23:53:07 GMT+1 John_Aberdein http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=34#comment15 I live on a northern Scottish island-off-an-island where, nevertheless, First Class mail usually arrives either one or two days after it is posted on the UK mainland. If Peter Mandelson and his benighted minions get their way, and the Royal Mail is privatised, I will get only courier mail, which currently arrives once per week. If I thought the Prime Minister was listening, I would say this to him, 'I used to be your most northerly candidate in the UK (General Elections, 1987 & 1992) because I believed the Labour Party believed in something: peace, public service, public ownership, and the public good. Restore my belief, please, and restore your own political purpose and credibility at the same time.' Thu 22 Oct 2009 23:30:03 GMT+1 HeadInHands http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=31#comment14 Such a shame that once again we confuse a "service" with a "product".Royal Mail is a service - if I post a letter on the South Coast to an address in the Highlands, it's delivered for me at the same price as if my local postman walks up the next street.It's fair, it's equable, it's surprisingly reliable, it's personal service, it's got pillar boxes on every corner and it used to have Post Offices in every Village.It was indeed a "service" - something that makes everyone's life more pleasing, more straightforward and more productive. My extra productivity was taxed, and that paid for any inefficiencies in proving a pan-UK service.But now, profits matter, efficiency matters. It's a product. We have to have choice. But is it as easy and predictable now? No.I hate the strike - it is cutting one's nose of to spite one's face - but what else is left that can tell our government that although they are our elected representatives, that does not give them the right to poke and interfere with things that that did NOT include in their manifesto.Services are the mark of a civilised and gracious society. We are, it seems, no longer a civilised and gracious society - there is now a price on every facet of our lives, and a value on none of it. Thu 22 Oct 2009 22:15:32 GMT+1 markus_uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=29#comment13 ...it is a design so pleasing that tourists come from all over the world to have their picture taken beside one...Well, yes they are exotic, so tourists have their pictures taken next to one in the same way as they stand next to a camel when visiting the Sahara. Do camels look pleasing? Thu 22 Oct 2009 21:41:37 GMT+1 tarquin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=27#comment12 1 ajs_dy "and when there is a steady supply of advertising junk mail through your letter box from which you cannot opt-out because "it helps to pay for the service"That was sarcasm, right? Or is 9/10 of my mail junk mail for some other reason11 CaledonianComment - if it's removed they do tell you what for - on one of Mark's recent posts I dared to criticise a councillor who lied and it got removed for being 'off-topic', despite clearly being on topic, it was in moderation for three days - something weird there Thu 22 Oct 2009 21:40:53 GMT+1 themaxthemax http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=25#comment11 As someone with elderly relatives waiting for important appointments, I am concerned about old people and hospital appointments. If a letter is delayed, a pensioner who misses an appointment may have to wait from a few weeks to a few months for a new appointment. This postal strike will lead to suffering and deaths in the old age community. As far as i am concerned, the striking postal workers should take responsibility for the results of their actions, and be liable to prosecution and litigation by members of the public. Their strike, as it will cause actual suffering among the most vulnerable members of our communities, is unforgivable, and in my opinion, criminal. Thu 22 Oct 2009 21:16:34 GMT+1 CComment http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=22#comment10 My comment #5 has been "referred to the moderators".When that happens, can we please have an explanation ? Like who complained, why they complained, what ( if any) appeals procedure there is and what gives some contributors in effect the right to censor by simply complaining ? Thu 22 Oct 2009 19:56:34 GMT+1 JadedJean http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=20#comment9 The anti-Nazis (Mandelson and chums) will put an end to evil nation states liek Britain and make us all go NUTS aka Regional Development Agencies i.e. statelets. The Chosen Ones will then probably became major stake-holders (aka oligarchs) just as they did in Germany in the 1920s and Russia in the 1990s, I suspect. Oh joy.. Thu 22 Oct 2009 19:55:23 GMT+1 tedyeoman http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=18#comment8 Lucky arny5000 "the depot is only 2 miles away from me and open long hours, compared to the private couriers who's depots always seem to be 20 urban miles away" They just shut our '2 miles away' depot and replaced it with the Post Office Counter open 9 -5 only and after 2 weeks it's sent to Ireland to be returned to sender.... 2 weeks .. that's how long our holiday was ... Stupid!I would hope that the service could be restored and protected in the National Interest .... Like the dockyards and energy supplies ...silly me! Thu 22 Oct 2009 19:04:57 GMT+1 arny http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=15#comment7 I touches a nerve with me because I find the Royal Mail is a lot better than its private competition. It's simple to use with simple, easy to understand, consistent pricing with no confusing special offers. It's cheaper than its competition for most packages (pence verses pounds on lightweight items). I find it quick and reliable. It's convenient; there's Post Offices all over town, within walking distance. And most of all I don't have to wait in for deliveries - the Royal Mail will deliver without requiring a signature, and if I do miss a delivery the depot is only 2 miles away from me and open long hours, compared to the private couriers who's depots always seem to be 20 urban miles away.So basically we have a state owned organisation that does a good job compared to the private sector. I fear the politicians will ruin it purely for the reasons of capitalist political dogma, just as they've done with electricity and gas, only worse. Thu 22 Oct 2009 18:26:08 GMT+1 Secratariat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=13#comment6 The Royal Mail is one of those businesses that needs to be able to maintain a monopoly for the majority of its business and since this is no longer legal the Royal Mail must die.The only thing that ever kept the Royal Mail going was that the unprofitable part of the business was able to be subsidised by the profitable part, competition legislation has since made the profitable part of the business open to private competition yet the Royal Mail still have to operate the unprofitable part and even worse, they have to provide this service to their competitors at a very low price.As with most British businesses the management have been ridiculously incompetent over the last 30 years while the Unions are stuck in some 1950s dreamland so we've got unhappy workers using outdated systems and working to stupid rules and this has only amplified the external challenges they've faced to the point that we're probably experiencing the death throes of this particular institution.It'll be sad to see them go and I'm sure whatever replaces them will be far more expensive with a much reduced service.On a slightly side point, I'd recommend having a read of Terry Pratchett's Going Postal. Thu 22 Oct 2009 17:49:10 GMT+1 JadedJean http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=11#comment5 "A postal strike is more than an industrial dispute, it touches nerves buried deep within the national psyche. It is an event reverberating with the symbolism of empire and class struggle - from the red pillar box to the burning brazier, the picket and the postage stamp."Are we allowed to have a national psyche under EU law? Isn't that a bit nationalist?I won't b long before there will be a directive against that.Bye bye Royal Mail. It is too statist/nationalist. That leads to all sorts of evil-doing you know. Gas chambers, experiments on children, Autobahns, VWs, funny marching and synth music. Britain must be Balkanized as that's good for business (aka the Greater EU). Could you imagine someone saying that someone in California couldn't have a job in Texas because they came from a different state? Bring on the Bulgarian Postie, or at least, a postie from a Bulgarian NUT.PS. Is it still OK to say Bulgarian? What about Lithuanian? Thu 22 Oct 2009 17:48:03 GMT+1 CComment http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=9#comment4 This post has been Removed Thu 22 Oct 2009 17:42:30 GMT+1 Dave H http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=6#comment3 It's worth noting that in that bastion of capitalism known as the USA, they jealously guard their postal service, with alternative delivery services subject to strict rules (usually about delivery performance relative to USPS performance). Perhaps we need to take a note of that and treat ours as a proper public service and give up on this silly notion of selling it off and opening it up to competition. That's not to say it can't be modernised, but I'll avoid that can of worms because I don't know the full facts. Thu 22 Oct 2009 17:08:07 GMT+1 barry white http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=4#comment2 All things do change. But here is a strange case for technology. We are in contact with each other, if we choose to be, instantly and 24 hours of the day. Yet when we need a physical item, we rely on the post. There will always be a need for the post and how it is done for the price? Could anyone set up now and do the same? Well no, or else this would have happened.All I can say is to look to the future and preserve what jobs you can, or set up competition... Thu 22 Oct 2009 16:57:40 GMT+1 Phantom http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=2#comment1 Like much else not what it was in your youth Mark, I think that we live in an era that is increasingly sanitised of sentiment. The Royal Mail née GPO will be fragmented further and sold off in time. Current events will only hasten this and few will (methinks) mourn it much.Though like steam trains and local shops they will miss it when it's gone. Thu 22 Oct 2009 16:57:37 GMT+1 AJS http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/10/the_picket_and_the_postage_sta.html?page=0#comment0 Everyone, please remember the Royal Mail.And one day in future, when the postal service has been privatised; when you have to refer to a book of confusing tables (which you have to pay for a new one of, when the prices change) to find out how much it is going to cost you, to send what size and weight of letter, to where in the world (starting at £1 for a small envelope just to the next street); when you can be charged for receiving items of mail; and when there is a steady supply of advertising junk mail through your letter box from which you cannot opt-out because "it helps to pay for the service",Remember that this is exactly what you gave your approval to, if you did not support the striking postal workers in 2009. Thu 22 Oct 2009 16:24:47 GMT+1