Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html en-gb 30 Sat 04 Jul 2015 02:20:46 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html dennisjunior1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=95#comment23 Mark:Excellent picture of the English Lawn...=Dennis Junior= Wed 12 Aug 2009 15:54:49 GMT+1 busloadofffaith http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=91#comment22 Coming late to this blog but just a note on golf courses. In the UK we give over 80 times as much space to golf courses as we do to children's play. This must mean that we value the play of middle aged white men 80 times more than we value children's play. One solution: reduce golf to a 17-hole game and give the 18th over for a children's playground. It won't go anywhere near redressing the balance but it will give children more space to play. Mon 03 Aug 2009 21:24:12 GMT+1 JeanMa http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=87#comment21 Can you imagine our homes, neighbors and cities without green lawns and flowery parks? People seem to start avoiding extra expenses like vacations, hobbies and sadly, even lawncare due to economic crisis. It is common to hold back household and outdoor projects due to budgeting. Also, the right care for landscape is now being forgotten by people just to save money. But these arent the right solutions to the problem, in fact, it would increase it. Thu 16 Jul 2009 14:36:39 GMT+1 Enuf_Zed http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=83#comment20 We have lived overseas and travelled a lot and the first thing that always hits you when you come back to the UK is how green everything is - I mean eye popping, dazzling green compared with the arid desert look most countries have. Long live the English lawn and our wonderful climate that nourishes it. Thu 02 Jul 2009 15:20:58 GMT+1 James http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=79#comment19 I've this year decided to give up on the rear lawn....sort of, going for a meadow-esque look with longer grasses and wild flowers intermingled. One box of meadow grass seed, one bag of compost and you're on your way to mowing only when it gets above 5 inches - bliss! Certainly helps bring more wildlife into the garden, requires far less tending and provides a much more fragrant, romantic and relaxing place to be :)And to pandatank - if your wife is mowing at 8am on a Sunday morning, tell her that's damaging the grass. It should be mown in the evening when the sun's harshness has died down to prevent it from browning...plus, you never know, she may be so tired by the evening that she gives it a miss :) Mon 29 Jun 2009 13:50:19 GMT+1 ashtonhaze http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=75#comment18 I have turned the grass at the front of my house (I couldn't grace it with the name 'lawn'), into a vegetable plot. I used to be thought of as slightly crazy, but now we are eating home grown veg and I get to chat to the neighbours. Much more fun than working alone in my small back garden Sun 28 Jun 2009 18:31:33 GMT+1 pandatank http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=70#comment17 Can't stand our lawn and take great delight when it gets covered in dandelions, bluebells, forget-me-nots, clover etc. My wife (very British) has this compulsive urge to get out and mow it, in case the neighbours comment, I imagine and regards the aforementioned plants as weeds. I also don't see what right I have to wake up everybody else in the neighbourhood at 8am every Sunday because said lawn has the effrontery to grow half an inch. It's not as if we even use the clippings for anything useful as our compost heap would be far better off without. I do disagree with paving over, however. Fri 26 Jun 2009 14:08:18 GMT+1 SSnotbanned http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=66#comment16 ...a perfect lawn / Yawn.The perfection depends very much on a level surface. Hence, golf enthusiasts will no doubt be aware of the superiorty of American golf courses.Putt,putt. Thu 25 Jun 2009 14:14:55 GMT+1 Graeme_606_v2 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=62#comment15 Our lawn is primarily there for our children. In fact, come to think of it, the whole reason spent a small fortune having our steeply sloping garden terraced was to create a flat lawn for the children to play on. You don't need a shed full of chemicals for a good lawn, in fact you don't even need to water it, it's incredibly resilient stuff. All you need are a lawn mower, a set of edging shears and a bit of organic fertilizer. For me, a lawn is a flat, slightly cushioned play area. If some of it isn't fescue or bent, so be it, the children love daisy chains! Wed 24 Jun 2009 11:40:06 GMT+1 Davehasacunningplan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=58#comment14 The lawn is just about the only part of our garden the neighbour's cats don't use as a toilet. Wed 24 Jun 2009 11:19:05 GMT+1 frost-fire http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=54#comment13 My small lawn was dull dry earth and moss until the neighbours cut down their towering cypress lawsonias. I have taken pleasure in watching nature return over the last few years - now there are clovers, stitchwort, self-heal, snowdrops, celandine, hawkbit, primroses, campion, plantain, bluebells, cowslips; and a variety of grasses. Mostly self-seeded or given to me by friends. This has brought a collection of insect life - ants, mason bees, butterflies.I only need to strim it a couple of times a year - and no chemicals either.Who needs stripes? Wed 24 Jun 2009 09:20:25 GMT+1 JohnSol http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=50#comment12 Reminds me of a conversation that I overheard at a National Trust garden a few years ago:- American tourist: "How do you get your lawns looking so good?" National Trust guide: "Oh, it's quite straightforward sir. You just cut it, roll it and water it (slight pause) for about 400 years." Our lawns and gardens are definately part of our national heritage, and we should enjoy that differentiator. The last couple of Summers have been very conducive to lush growth, and hopefully that will continue this year. Would you really want your house to be surrounded by featureless scorched brown scrub? Wed 24 Jun 2009 00:37:07 GMT+1 Joan Olivares http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=45#comment11 Why do men love their lawns so much? Maybe it has to do with the fact that a man's house is his castle. It's one way his house will stand out in a neighborhood of ticky tacky other houses. Those perfest lawn men make good husbands because if they can care for their lawn, they probably care for their neighborhoods too. Tue 23 Jun 2009 23:47:08 GMT+1 Rustigjongens http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=41#comment10 I am amazed, until reading this article I would never have thought that the common garden was a "status symbol"!.Reading dunbuhs comments, I have to admit that I also felt that your article strayed into the surreal with your climate change and Obama comments, although I feel that dunbuh went too far with his final sentence.As one of the more informative and educational BBC bloggers, I feel it would be more beneficial if you refrain from your personal ideological viewpoint and stick to factual posts. Tue 23 Jun 2009 18:41:44 GMT+1 ATNotts http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=37#comment9 A lawn, OK not a perfect lawn, is easy enough to maintain, offers us office wallers an opportunity to convince ourselves that we actually do get some exercise, driving the lawn mower up and down it weekly, and actually looks good.I detest the trend of turning over lawns to make the front garden a miniature car park; somewhere to dump the family SUV, the wife's "super mini" and oldest son's "go-faster" pollution machine. Not only is it unsightly, it also makes a major contribution to the flash flooding problems that we experience every summer now in UK.The water has to go somewhere, and a lawn soaks up thousands of litres. How often do you ever see a flooded lawn as a result of a short sharp shower? Hardly any. Same thing can't be said for tarmac or concrete carparks.Lawn out of fashion? I hope not! Tue 23 Jun 2009 15:58:48 GMT+1 Roland D http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=33#comment8 "with climate change making lawn maintenance more problematic..."Pardon? Not on mine it isn't. Is it part of the standard BBC contract to shoehorn in a reference to climate change? Or do you really all go around talking about it endlessly in your cosy, licence fee fed bubble, whilst planning where you're going to jet off to next? Tue 23 Jun 2009 14:09:27 GMT+1 duhbuh http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=29#comment7 With US First Lady Michelle Obama ploughing the White House lawn to plant organic vegetables, with climate change making lawn maintenance more problematic in Britain, with the fashion for the natural and with a global economic downturn, it may be that what was once a status-symbol is now a little bit naff.The pampered lawn looks increasingly like an unsustainable relic from an era of excess.Gratuitous mention of the Obamas check. Climate change reference check. Bit of leftie ideology check. And all in the space of two sentences about English lawns. Good going, Mark. Of course, to be a perfect encapsulation of BBC journalism you needed a couple more items:The pampered lawn looks increasingly like an unsustainable relic from an era of excess, a throwback to the dark days of George W. Bush, and as out of place in the landscape as a partition barrier in Israel.There - a BBC full house. Tue 23 Jun 2009 12:52:09 GMT+1 Isenhorn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=25#comment6 'It is a pretty sorry excuse for an English lawn, but I did feel a slight sense of pride as I inhaled the summer-sweet smell of fresh-cut grass and sized up my stripes. '**************************************Well said, Mark. Where would we be without the English lawn? Just imagine Sir Francis Drake, standing forlornly above Plymouth, telling his companions: 'Alas, had there been a lawn, we would have had time enough to play a game of bowls, and still beat the enemy'. It does not have the same ring to it, does it?! ;-) Tue 23 Jun 2009 10:10:27 GMT+1 jon112uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=20#comment5 I think you are right to raise the spectre of the globalised 'environment' lobby. In the US, particularly in places like las vegas, the massive use of water to sustain lawns/golf courses in the middle of the desert is a big issue for the 'environmentalists.' As a globalised organisation they spread that philosophy here.In the UK you have to add in the issue of uncontrolled population growth, unmatched by new infrastructure, resulting in water supply inadequacies. Large numbers of people now have to pay for water on a meter and they may not be willing to do that to maintain a lawn.The writing is on the wall for yet another small part of our culture. Tue 23 Jun 2009 07:42:54 GMT+1 U14045589 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=16#comment4 The problem with the British Lawn is simply bad press and PR coverage and the BBC do not really help - note Alan Titchmarsh and Joe Swift's comments at The Chelsea Flower Show. Those who have studied Turf Culture as a profession are not boring people - they are in tune with the great outdoors. Often the largest part of the garden and still one major aspect of a garden that amateur garden owners struggle with. You will probably edit this bit out but point readers to our excellant Lawn Blog that is written by a professional turf manager with a degree in the subject of turf culture and over 27 years of hands on, technical and commercial knowledge in turf culture. Find me on Expert Sources. www.grassclippings.co.uk received over 10,000 technical page views per month. The proof is in the knowledge gained during a visit to the web site. Our advice is free. I am also the Founder Member of The Lawn Society so I know a bit about lawns and turf.Mike Seaton F.Inst.G(Dip) Mon 22 Jun 2009 18:40:43 GMT+1 John1948 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=12#comment3 The point about grass is: it is quiet to walk on, decking and people walking about on it are noisy; it is soft to fall on, try falling down on stone slabs; it binds the soil, so doesn't turn into dust and block drains; it might turn brown but is pretty drought resistant; it repairs itself.The trouble with a lawn is that it is trying to make grass behave unnaturally and is very unfriendly to children and pets who just want to play around on it. When I get off my sun lounger (under a tree, of course) I want to walk barefoot on grass without fear of absorbing some chemical through my feet, and certainly not on some horrid hard surface.Totally random thoughts, but keep grass please. Mon 22 Jun 2009 17:15:32 GMT+1 stanilic http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=8#comment2 A lawn is more than grass; it is the soft refreshing rain and of course, the real answer lies in the soil as they used to say on Round the Horne. You have to lay a lawn properly: not just chuck cheap grass seed onto a patch of builders' rubble. It has to be set down in the right order for otpimum drainage so it does not puddle but with sufficient body to maximise moisture retention. It takes time and is a labour of love.I am a practitioner of the cottage garden and interestingly the lawn does not fit into this picture where the farm labourer grew the sweet smelling plants used to make cottage and chapel feel pleasant, the vegetables to eke out the poor wages and the herbs to provide simple medicines to ease the aches and pains of a hard life. This is as much British as the lawn: just the other end of society. A good lawn is a delight as is a cottage garden, but a bad lawn is a horror. Sadly, there are so many bad lawns out there that I prefer to dig them up when I take over the property. I love heathers and in my present garden they take up about a quarter of the old lawn. They always bring the bees in when they flower in the spring.The pond takes up another chunk of what had been the lawn so that newts, frogs and dragon flies get to enjoy themselves.Then there are the vegetable patches and soft fruit areas which are the real fun.This all brings the wildlife into the garden and they in their turn add to the richness. I think this is how the domestic garden is developing; a place to be, a place to grow and a place to learn and understand.As you say we will always have the great lawns to delight us, but they are necessarily professional things to be appreciated and respected. A garden needs love: you can love a lawn I expect but you might be a fairly dull fellow. Mon 22 Jun 2009 17:09:17 GMT+1 pristyles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=4#comment1 I'm sure you've come across http://www.fritzhaeg.com/garden/initiatives/edibleestates/main.html ... Very interesting that our notion of what makes an attractive garden might not include a lawn in the future. Mon 22 Jun 2009 16:21:38 GMT+1 HardWorkingHobbes http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/06/map_of_the_week_the_english_lawn.html?page=0#comment0 To me a lawn is a sign that you've got to much time or money on your hands.At my parents house they have a front lawn, mainly due to building covenants meaning they can't build an extension or tarmac it for parking. Despite their best efforts it's a battle to what will take it over, weeds or the ant-hills.At my house it got paved over long ago as having a parking space was a necessity.As more people have higher time constraints (from work, family etc.) and society has high space restraints (parking) there will be less and less lawns. The only preserve of them might be from whats happened in parts of London where the council are banning people from removing front gardens as they blame this on flooding problems as there is not enough soil to soak up the rainfall.Talking of the American golf courses reminded me of some program about the American presidential election of many years ago where the motor-cade was driving through some southern state so all the residents had been out the day before painting their lawns to turn them from the dustbowl brown into a luscious green. Mon 22 Jun 2009 16:19:40 GMT+1