Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html en-gb 30 Sat 04 Jul 2015 22:49:55 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html EastMeetWest http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=98#comment75 I am Chinese who is currently living in London. Got the news via text message when I was on a commuter train that morning. I was firstly, shocked! Shocked that this happened. But I am not at all angry at him or blame him for it. I still support him. I can't imagine the pressure he had and what of a mental state he was in before the big game! His pulling out has not dented any confidence I have as a Chinese and my belief of a strong and better China! Yes it is a shame he couldn't win a gold medal for his homeland. But I am sure there are millions of Chinese people will work hard to make China better! Nobody is relying on 1 person in China, the Chinese people are always one big team! Wed 20 Aug 2008 12:41:15 GMT+1 Nasaken http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=97#comment74 Don't get too mad on some people still attacking China on this blog. The British people are much nicer than the Americiansalready. I almost havn't read one single positive comment from the American mediaon this Olympic.As a Chinese, I just feel like "I'm a host, I invited friends from all over the world to have a dinner with me in my house, I spentmuch money to declorate my home, cook good foods, teaching my housemates to serve them well", but all i got from my guests are " you are trying to cheat me." Wed 20 Aug 2008 04:04:37 GMT+1 thunderousdingdong http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=96#comment73 I don't feel sorry because China has one less gold medal (given China has got so many already :p) I just feel sorry for Liu Xiang. It must have been very hard for him to make such a decision. Think about the years of intense training towards THE match at his home country. Especially when he knows that the whole nation has high expectation from him. Imagine the amount of pressure he would have. Lets hope he'll keep his positive-ness and put this behind. Get well soon and take care Liu Xiang. Support you always! See you in London in 2012! Wed 20 Aug 2008 00:37:16 GMT+1 5891jonathan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=94#comment72 Hey, everybody, the 110-meter high hurdles is actually run more often than once every 4 years! There are numerous elite races held every season and the world championships are held every year. Provided that Liu's injury heals, we can see him race many, many more times - perhaps he'll even repeat as World Champion and regain the world record. He is a great athlete despite his scratching at the Games. The media pay attention to athletics only at the Olympics, but dedicated fans don't measure greatness merely by the number of Olympic medals. Tue 19 Aug 2008 23:45:34 GMT+1 AlricDark http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=93#comment71 Most nations competing in the games has it's 'poster-boy' or 'poster-girl' in the run-up to the start, the 'face' everyone pins their hopes on and China are no different in that respect. Sometimes they come off, such as Freeman did in Sydney 2000, other times they don't. I for one feel sorry for Liu, robbed by the failings of his own body of the chance to compete. At least his failure appears to be an honest one to which no shame should be attached, unlike that of the Greek sprinters in Athens four years ago. Tue 19 Aug 2008 15:58:54 GMT+1 bighullabaloo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=92#comment70 It's only "strange" if one is determined to ignore the Chinese official's perfectly clear and rational explanation that their medical staff were unsure if Liu Xiang was going to be fit enough to run or not. Tue 19 Aug 2008 11:04:06 GMT+1 MenaceMean http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=90#comment69 It was not until just now that I understood the importance of the Olympics to China and the whole world. But for the Olympics, we won't have had the chance to witness how much the China has changed over the years (esp. the past few years under the regime of President Wu Jintao and Premier Wan Jiapo). The Olympics has provided a platform for discussion. If you know Chinese (language), you'll discover an obvious change in Chinese attitudes towards everything. With its painful history (including those attributable to the Western and the Japanese), China (as well as its people) is (are) just too anxious about others' comments (whether positive or negative). That's why China (and its people) always want to show its (their) best to the whole world and sometimes, I agree, we will commit silly mistakes while having genuinely bona fide good intention. The fake singing or fireworks are indeed nothing. Most of the good shows will have them as well. The intention remains a good one, i.e. the Chinese wants everyone to share a good show, which I honestly believed we did. Perhaps, some people will be picky that the fakes are the fakes. When you go to cinema to watch a war film (e.g. Saving Private Ryan), you won't expect the soldiers to have actually lost an arm. Won't you? So long as you enjoy the visual effects and signing, then it serves the purpose. Indeed, everything has been approved by the board which consists of Western members. And we should notice that it's the Chinese that takes the initiative to come forward to talk about the fakes. The problem simply lies with the skill. Perhaps, Chinese have left the world stadium too long that it takes time for us to learn how to put forward the facts in a more skillful manner. At least no longer are the Chinese people using another lies to cover. It's too easy for us to follow George W. Bush and Tony Blair to cover lies with another lies. Sorry that I seem to have gone too far. If you look at Chinese forum, Chinese people have been much more matured and welcome different views nowadays. Note that those views are genuine and always opposite to each other (they can be faked by the Chinese Gov't).Taking the issue of whether Long Ping, US volleyball coach, should lead US team to defeat the Chinese national team, some people will adopt a comparatively restricted nationalism and have hatred against Ms. Long Ping, who used to be one of the best team member of the famous Chinese volleyball team. While another school of thoughts would simply remind us that it's still our pride and glory that Ms. Long has done her job so excellently and the problem lies with the Chinese national team if we can't beat others.There are just too many examples. But for the Olympics, you won't discover how much freedom of speech that the Chinese people are currently enjoying. Perhaps, there is still a some distance with the Western standard. So be it. You have to appreciate the progress that has been made. Of course, we, the Chinese people, do expect more freedom in different aspects would come. However, we also welcome more progressive measures. With all the painful history, we preferred step by step, rather than a sudden drastic change. After all, it's a nation with over 5,000 years of history (and burden), any small change in Western standard may not be easily accepted by China.Tell you another example, the Chinese media used to be harsh to those who fail to claim gold medal and bring glory to China. However, with the massive criticisms in the forums, the media's attitude has experienced a dramatic change and re-focuses on the efforts that the atheletes have made. But for the Olympics, I (who have been living in Hong Kong) would not have had the chance to discover the progress (in different aspects) that has been made in all these years.Perhaps, some may wonder if Chinese has spent too much on the infrastructure and the stadiums. Anyway, as the nation's capital, Beijing can afford that and I also believe Beijing will host more games and activities in the coming years. Let's imagine how amazing it would be if an artist or an orchescha can perform in the Bird Nest. Tue 19 Aug 2008 08:53:45 GMT+1 kathoz http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=89#comment68 Why are there people trying to make a fuss out of this? He had to pull out of Olympics. We all want to wish him a speedy recovery and hope to see him compete in London. I don't get how some people voice their opinions as though they know Liu personally. Tue 19 Aug 2008 08:48:29 GMT+1 coviet http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=88#comment67 Enjoy this article... from the "other" Chinese's perspective. Too-Heavy Medal: China's Hopes for Liu Xiang are Crushedby Melinda LiuAs soon as hurdler Liu Xiang, obviously in pain, yanked off his competition tag and walked out of the Bird’s Nest—dashing the hopes of a nation of 1.3 billion—Chinese friends began text-messaging me. “China’s just like Liu Xiang: Can’t run anymore”, commented one. When I asked why he thought that, my friend SMS’ed back, “Badly hurt from the past and too much pressure on him…not enjoying the pure fun of sports anymore. But it’s good 2 stop 4 awhile to take it slow and do it rite.”In the end, his injuries—and perhaps the intense burden of China's gold-medal aspirations—got the better of Liu. He grimaced with discomfort even as he settled into the starting block of his 110m hurdles heat Monday. He stopped after a false start, stumbled forward for a few steps, clutched his leg, and then walked out of the stadium to a stunned silence from the expectant audience. China’s Great Hope had pulled out of the competition that had represented China’s best hope of an athletics gold medal. Not just his many fans but also Chinese security guards, journalists, and even his coach Sun Haiping broke down and wept with disappointment at Liu’s withdrawal.Liu's stunning pull-out saddened many Chinese. The hopes of the entire nation had been riding on Liu, who came out of relative obscurity to win the gold medal at Athens in the 110 meter hurdles—probably the most unexpected of the 32 golds that China snagged at the 2004 Games. Never before had a Chinese man struck gold in a track and field event, and he quickly became the nation’s most famous athlete, more deified even than hoops celebrity Yao Ming.It’s hard to overestimate how badly his compatriots wanted to see Liu repeat his golden performance on home turf. In a survey of more than 1000 Chinese respondents at the end of 2007, the majority said witnessing Liu win gold in the Bird’s Nest this August was their number one Olympic dream. Chinese columnist Ramond Zhou, who contributes to the official English-language China Daily, explained it to me this way shortly before the Games kicked off: “I only care about Liu Xiang. His winning the gold would be like Obama winning the U.S. presidency. It’s about shattering the stereotype that Asians can’t win track and field sports. People say that because Chinese don't eat so much beef that they don't have stamina—so therefore must rely on skill." Liu was supposed to put that stereotype to rest.But at least for now that dream has died, leaving a lot of soul-searching in its place. People are beginning to question whether it was unhealthy to burden Liu, 25, with such heavy medal hopes -- and whether it was a sign of misguided old-school priorities to make him the symbol of an entire nation's new-found international clout and success. Even before his dramatic withdrawal today, Liu has had a troubled year. On May 31 he withdrew from the Reebok Grand Prix due to a tight hamstring. A few days later—on June 8, in fact, though the numeral “8” wasn’t so lucky for Liu in that instance—he was disqualified from the Prefontaine Classic Grand Prix due to a false start.Then at the IAAF Grand Prix in Europe, 21-year-old Cuban hurdler Dayron Robles shaved one-hundredth of a second off the 12.88 second world record set by Liu in July 2006. Many analysts—including my colleague Quindlen Krovatin in this July 1 post in our "Countdown to Beijing" blog—began speculating whether Liu could overcome such setbacks—not to mention the intense psychological pressures which made the possibility of losing face in front of a home crowd so much more unbearable than the fear of losing a contest overseas.Liu had not competed since May 23 due to a hamstring injury. But that injury had healed. Instead it was Saturday's recurrence of an inflamed Achilles' tendon—a condition that has plagued Liu for half a dozen years—that brought him "almost intolerable" pain, according to track association head Feng Shuyong. Domestic media also reported that Liu's mother worried he was getting muscle cramps from training too intensively—and that she was phoning him every day out of concernThough most of his fans were devastated, some Chinese seemed to think perhaps Liu had become too famous and too spoiled too fast. Local media reported that lighting in the Bird's Nest National Stadium was readjusted to shine less brightly after Liu’s coach complained that the lights were too intense for his famous star. We'll bring you more on Chinese reaction; not everyone had been obsessed with Liu's winning gold. “In any case, Liu wouldn’t have won had he competed,” Beijing graphic artist Lu Bin told my colleague Jonathan Ansfield today. Lu took Liu’s pull-out in stride: “Of [all] the big sports stars, Liu Xiang’s the one who annoys me most. I bet now he’ll slowly switch over to the entertainment world.” After all, Liu's face has been plastered over gigantic billboards advertising Visa and other big name brands, and Liu was widely regarded to be the poster-boy of the 2008 Olympics. One way or another, it looks like Liu will be remembered for a long time to come. Tue 19 Aug 2008 05:52:52 GMT+1 mango_08 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=86#comment66 ^ ^ came across the song ** sorry. It's been a long night of watching the olympics. Time for bed, I can barely see straight! Tue 19 Aug 2008 05:34:54 GMT+1 mango_08 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=85#comment65 TO THOSE ASKING ABOUT THE PIANO IN THIS PIECE. It is Divenire - Ludovico Einaudi. I am 100% sure of it.I did send an E-mail to the BBC asking them about 4 hours ago...By some odd twist of fate I was searhcing piano sheets by this composer downloaded his album and came across the strong...Strange. [= Enjoy it's a stunning piece of music. Very sad for Liu and his coach. Tue 19 Aug 2008 05:31:14 GMT+1 chenyj0115 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=84#comment64 Stop arguing, just let it go, we are accustomed to numerous criticism and prejudice from some western stupid country and people. These people are always having good imagination without seeing anything or just getting some distorted video or picture from some silly media such as CNN. So just let them shitting, we stick to the faith and unifying. Tue 19 Aug 2008 05:26:55 GMT+1 miolegge http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=82#comment63 I'm a Chinese. I witnessed many of my colleagues in my office crying the moment the Liu Xiang broke. Even my mother cried cried sadly. Chinese poeple think Liu is the person who can make their Olympic dream come true. Even many middle age people regard Liu as their song. Young people regard him as their brother. This may be the reason the whole country, includingChinese president was shocked. Tue 19 Aug 2008 05:17:55 GMT+1 coviet http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=81#comment62 Not to offend the Chinese people but personally i think it was such a "great performance" by both Liu and his team. everyone should see it was coming. Welcome to the worst side of chinese communists. money, power and control. I hope you guys look deeper... it has been a well-crafted act. liu should have dropped out but there were so much money, pride involved. so there it went on display for everyone the "great performance"The real victims are Liu himself, the Chinese people and the world. i don't want to politicize this episode. but it is part of the communist game plan... it's hiding right behind Chinese nationalism.. PS: i lived under the communist regime before so i know the system. DON'T ever believe in them. Watch what they do. (these statements are applied to ALL communist regimes around the world --- ex: russian current episode in georgia.. Tue 19 Aug 2008 05:15:45 GMT+1 GoonerCow http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=80#comment61 My tears go for Liu Xiang. He is a great guy and as for sporting idol, not even Yao Ming can compare to him. I'm sure he can get over this and recover soon to get back to his best. Also, for me I don't mind how many gold medals my country (China) wins. Most important is , it was be a successful olympics and may the best win! Tue 19 Aug 2008 04:41:21 GMT+1 vecuccio http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=78#comment60 I am a Western guy who lives in China.Liu Xiang is a good and modest man, you couldn't want for a nicer sporting hero.With his Gold Medal, he made every Chinese person in the World that little bit more proud to be Chinese.A sad day for Mr Liu, a sad day for China. Tue 19 Aug 2008 02:07:40 GMT+1 imposter1978 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=77#comment59 >What right does any person in the west have to criticize anything to do with China?It's called the right to free speech! Fight for it and you'll have it too one day... Tue 19 Aug 2008 01:54:53 GMT+1 Timmy_Toerag http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=76#comment58 If virtually the whole Chinese nation hadn't lusted after victory to the point of bad taste, that guy wouldn't going through a living hell and his fans might not have felt the need to throw a collective strop on the world stage.For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.Those gold medals look just like big coins don't they. Mon 18 Aug 2008 23:15:23 GMT+1 David http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=75#comment57 Well said, UTD3inarow. Mon 18 Aug 2008 22:59:38 GMT+1 Lereon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=73#comment56 The reality is, we do not take his withdrawal as serious as you describe. The moment Liu left may seem a bit frustrating, but that was just a natural response to a hopeful star any nation would have. The whole nation's mentality have changed a lot over the past decades and turned out hugely different from many Westerners' stereotyped speculations. It's silly to make any one dimensional judgement on this populous and diverse country.If anything about national pride or host's face, we have already got an invincible gold medal haul with many breakthroughs. But what's so important of that? It's all for the perfection of this grand summer party that stages every four years, featuring Liu's drama as the stunning climax. More Olympic, isn't it? Mon 18 Aug 2008 21:19:55 GMT+1 Aaron http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=72#comment55 Why are most of the comments about East vs West and the problems that China has, eg. Pollution Human rights, the whole point of the Olympic games is to put the worlds problems to the back of your mind and enjoy the greatest sporting event ever! The east and wests problems should not be part of this discussion, leave those comments for poilitical blogs Mon 18 Aug 2008 21:11:34 GMT+1 olympicwatcher http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=71#comment54 I can't seem to figure out the reason why certain people keep trying to relate Liu's failure of participation on the track and field to Chinse authorities or his commercial involvement? Yes, it is true that these bodies would have definitely benefited a great deal on the finanncial aspect if he had succeeded. But has it ever occured to those people's tiny minds that Liu himself can also be an athlete well capable of knowing the unusual meaning and importance of this olympics, both for him and the rest of Chinese people. It doesn't matter how many gold medals he wins elsewhere anymore. It'll be the one in Beijing he didn't win that counts. People here should try to listen to the voices in China at the moment. Though the whole country is disappointed and devastated, you might be surprised to see how supportive and encouraging they are towards their 'hero'.Hope Liu will have a speedy recovery.And hope the way the west puts political contents into anything to do with China does not turn into a constant habit any time soon. (Or maybe it is already a bit too late for that matter.) Mon 18 Aug 2008 20:23:54 GMT+1 JamJia Universe http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=69#comment53 Ops, sorry. Back to the point. I feel sorry for Liu. I hope he recovers soon and wish him well. He is a hero regardless of his achievements in Beijing. One can only feel sorry and saddend that a athlete or any athlete for that matter cannot take part in their event on the biggest global stage at all. Good article by the way. Well done Steve on a reflective and thoughtful presentation of what happened at the bird's nest on this eventful night for China's biggest track and field star. Mon 18 Aug 2008 19:44:44 GMT+1 JamJia Universe http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=68#comment52 It's funny how the western media before the games kept poking their noses on all the little things that China wasn't very good at such as air pollution. Now that the games are in full swing, we don't hear much about air pollution these days from the BBC. Could it be that the air quality in Beijing has actually improved so much that there simply is no story there to be written about?Luckily though for the bored writers out there, we have the perfect blabbing forum in the form of the BBC blog. Here, small insignificant stories (say compared to global poverty, climate change, death and genocide) are being turned into global news worthy headlines.It's funny there is this old saying about how you throw a bone at a hungry dog even if the bone is not very appetising. I guess the anti China western media are clearly so hungry for any negative news that they will jump on any trivial, insignificant stories and turn it into 'NEWS'.It's a shame that given the opportunity, these writers and editors simply will not find a steady leg to stand on if pressed on their moral superiority. None of us are perfect, a quick look into the recent history of the UK/US will shine some blinding light onto the matter of moral bigotry that plagues the western media's conscience.Funny how continental European media are just about every way possible more refined, enlightened than their British counterparts. It's a shame the BBC has turned into the social backwater our British society now days deserve rather than the bright shining light which it was formerly know to be. A real pity to the real intellectuals and philosophical audiences British media once used to serve. Mon 18 Aug 2008 19:30:30 GMT+1 emamel http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=67#comment51 I must write to defend China, its people and the Olympics, from the awful one-sided anti-Chinese Western media.The little girl did not sing during the Opening Ceremony! Well, Madonna and Kylie Minogue were both exposed for miming during 'live concerts', where fans had paid to see live performances by singers, not dancers. Milli Vanilli went either further, like all but one member of Boney M in the 70s, by not even singing on their recordings. The West has been doing this for 40 years.The visual show was not all fireworks. It was never meant to be; it was a combination of people, lights, lasers and fireworks. I don't care if they used holograms, it looked superb, which was exactly the aim of it.Protestors are arrested for unfurling banners. Strangely, that is the identical policy of British Police. Look no further than the Fathers Rights activists who have been arrested for unfurling banners from the Houses of Parliament, and Labur ministers houses.The West passes judgment upon China regarding Tibet, and quotes the Dalai Lama as leader of the Tibetan People. Meanwhile UK and US troops occupy Iraq and Afghanistan, blighting the lives of the locals. Is a Chinese political prison any worse than Guantanemo? No, and the UK wants to imprison UK residents without trial. I worry for the Wests civil rights, sorry, I mean civil liberties (they are no longer a right, just a freedom given to us by the government, and removable just as quickly).I the UK, we have over two centuries of dealing with China. If there is one country in the world that should show a genuine understanding of China and its wonderful people, culture and nobility, it should be the UK. Let's get behind these Olympics, where the UK are performing better than ever, where the public are excited and friendly, where world records are being smashed, and celebrate a great and wonderous occassion for everyone in the world. Mon 18 Aug 2008 19:10:52 GMT+1 clearpoint http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=65#comment50 Considering the Olympics being build around him gives all Chinese the confidence that Liu is the most important Athlete of the olympics and it is such a big blow that Liu could not make it to the Final as a result of a common ocurrance " Injury" which affected his participation in the games. I feel pity for him and China as a whole because Missing a champion like Liu is really not one thing to write home about and i know deep inside of him he feels worse not being able to put smiles on his chinese fans whose hopes were laid and put on Liu...Chinese please take heart for Liu will surely bounce back in Grand Style.. Big Ups! Mon 18 Aug 2008 19:01:00 GMT+1 aquaman2001 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=64#comment49 Tore my achilles on Saturday. Thought of letting family and work colleagues down bad enough. My heart goes out to Liu Xiang. Mon 18 Aug 2008 18:14:28 GMT+1 dubs387 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=63#comment48 PraetorianGuard- i believe the music is by damon albarn or you could be after 'The Bund' by The Shanghai Restoration Project, you may want to google search that thou, i am waiting for a response from the BBC who also tell you what is played via a blogthe piano could be right thou.....http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_and_radio/7354627.stm Mon 18 Aug 2008 18:09:45 GMT+1 pineapple http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=61#comment47 I feel so sorry for Liu Xiang.To have this once in a lifetime oppurtunity taken away by injury is so cruel - just imagine if this had happened to Kathy Freeman 8 years ago.But what some of the Chinese people are saying is even more cruel. To say he has let the pressure get to him and use injury as a way out is ridiculous and if Liu heard that I'm sure he would feel so depressed. I hope this is just a minority of Chinese people that think this.Anyway, I think Robles would have won in my opinion. Mon 18 Aug 2008 18:09:00 GMT+1 Gantec http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=60#comment46 best wishes for Liu and hope he gets well soon.@netjumperthose are some great shoots of the fireworks.http://community.livejournal.com/olympicgames08/18598.htmlbut concerning the the faked images of the fireworks. The Chinese officals have stepped forward and did make it offical the images of firework footsteps were superimposed on the video. There were fireworks going off at the locations we all saw, but the video feed was superimposed. The shoot from inside the birds nest of the last fireworks shows a real fireworks and it looks great, but u can tell it is not as perfect as the rest that were shown. Mon 18 Aug 2008 18:00:21 GMT+1 mediumlarge http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=59#comment45 I feel sorry for the chinese but its good for the British as now Andrew Turner has a great chance at getting a medals. I loved the opening ceremony but I was hurt to see that the little girl singing was faked because thats awful.China has some way to go but the signs are there that once the quirks in its political system are ironed out it can fully blossom into the beautiful country it shall become. Love to the chinese x Mon 18 Aug 2008 17:52:25 GMT+1 paksta http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=57#comment44 BulletMonkey:"I have to wonder if the British outpouring of sympathy for him will be matched by Chinese sentiment for OUR athletes in 2012 should any of them fail."---What a strange comment! Why would you say that? Are you suggesting that Chinese people have less capacity for empathy than British people?For myself, this is a terrible moment for Liu and China - I feel for you guys on this one. Sport is full of heartbreak, but in a perfect world every athlete deserves to have their chance considering the tough work they put in. Mon 18 Aug 2008 17:46:55 GMT+1 Coasthunter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=56#comment43 Whilst it is obviously disappointing that Liu is out (as you want to see the top men competing against each other), a bit of perspective is needed, as he wasn't the favourite for this event (his preparation has been severely hampered and Robles is the fastest man in the world).It is astounding how much over the top sensalisation there has been in these games. Mon 18 Aug 2008 17:44:36 GMT+1 chubbaonline http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=55#comment42 I really feel gutted for him. He'll probably go onto win other golds but none could have been as special as this. It would have been one of the great Olympics nights like Cathy Freeman winning gold in Sydney. Mon 18 Aug 2008 17:00:16 GMT+1 sky_boy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=53#comment41 Based on the comments listed below, many people think their own opinions as the the whole Chinese words. So it is quite misleading for other people to know what the Chinese really ideas. These people are damn loathsome. Personally, I hope the guys use 'I think', not 'we Chinese think'. Mon 18 Aug 2008 16:58:02 GMT+1 Andrew Davies http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=52#comment40 To quote John lennon - "life is what happens to you while you are busy making other plans" Mon 18 Aug 2008 16:54:23 GMT+1 fg6322 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=51#comment39 I am a Chinese student in Manchester. I still remember the moment he won the Olympics in 2004, the first Chinese showed in the running gold. He is so passion and energetic. Of course it is a pity he gave up at the last time. As you said in this video, there is a huge hole in the heart of the bird nest, but anyone care about the hole in his own heart? so many years preparation, sweat, and blood. besides, this maybe the only chance he could stand on the gold model in the home country. what kind of hurt he is suffering now. Mon 18 Aug 2008 16:19:59 GMT+1 aaronmakkc http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=50#comment38 I am devastated about the exit of Liu Xiang. Devastated for him. Imagine the amount of pressure, the amount of expectation on his shoulder.China's biggest chance in history to claim gold in a sprint event rests on his shoulder. ALL of the chinese people rest their hope on him. The biggest event, the biggest stage to perform is in his home country. The conflict between the pressure to perform (in pain), and the desire to not disappoint the home nation at the biggest event of sport at his home ground is totally unbearable.Lets grief for his exit and his pressure and his courage to try to deliver even in great pain. No one is more disappointed, devastated than Liu Xiang himself. Lets support him, because this mental disappointment and pressure will break ANY human down.And I also wish people can stop showing animosity towards eachother. Sports is what unite people, and the Olympics is the biggest stage for it....to unite the people on Earth as one. Even just for 2 weeks in a period of every 4 yrs, please see to it that we are all humans. We have more similarities than differences. Stop focusing on the small little things......stop attacking and defending fellow humans, just enjoy the game and enjoy the fact that we, as human, with dedication and hardwork are capable to reach our dreams, extend beyond our potential. Enjoy the fact that we can love even our greatest rival, and show grace in both victory and loss. Mon 18 Aug 2008 15:57:08 GMT+1 TheTruthaboutChina http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=48#comment37 What a shame, I am a Brit living in China, he is a great sportsman, so when any top athlete doesn't get to compete in front of his home country in top Athletics Competition then its just so sad. But why has he not just come out and said "Sorry, but I am injured", as he clearly was ! What kind of pressure was he under to be fit only he and those who pressurised him will know for sure. The expectations of the largest nation should never fall on to one man's shoulders. You can only feel for him, the whole world does, its just some people can't understand why he was trying to run if he was injured, thats all. I'm fed up with all the cynics, look at the former NUMBER 1 country, how cynical we are no matter who tops the Gold medal tally. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones ! Mon 18 Aug 2008 15:41:25 GMT+1 fiftygoldmedals http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=47#comment36 This is a blog about Liu, but it is interesting to see many comments were actuallly about the fake fireworks on the opening ceremony. You can imagine what those comments would be if they were not removed. As a Chinese, I am not surprised to hear many voices from British questioning the opening ceremony. It is simple if you think in a British's way, when you know your country has not the slightest hope to match the stunning Beijing Olympic opening ceremony 4 years later, what you can do is of course trying to pick as many imperfections as possible. Mon 18 Aug 2008 15:21:14 GMT+1 fansiding http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=46#comment35 as a Chinese,i'm glad that so many support comments i saw in this foreign website,especially a blog.appreciate first!of course,liu is our hero who should be struggle for the golden medol in beijing,but we can understand his withdrawal and we will not give liu more press,contrarily,support will be the only gift for him.bless for liu,i hope his mood will recover soon,just as the audience in cctv-1 now who are enjoying the happy time with our badminton team. Mon 18 Aug 2008 14:47:21 GMT+1 yuchirin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=44#comment34 when I watched Liu quited on TV, i just cannot believe what's going on. A Nigerian told me: Liu is out. I cried. He is such a hero, how could he be out.Maybe , China gets great success in gold metal rank, it's fair to lose a little in atheletes' field. Mon 18 Aug 2008 14:45:59 GMT+1 PraetorianGuard http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=43#comment33 Terribly sad for Liu. Massive guts for coming out and giving it a whirl, and even given the injury the two hurdles he did do prior to the race looked very impressive. It must be a huge dissapointment for the chinese, but I hope they all get behind their man and send him their sympathies. He's clearly worked so hard to get fit and in shape and to have the opportunity taken away at the last must be hugely dissapointing.Dubs 387, the music, I believe was the theme from the movie The Piano. I think at least. Anyone tell me what the music is that is used behind the headlines? It is an oriental sounding string piece.Big up Liu. Mon 18 Aug 2008 14:26:36 GMT+1 dg0510 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=42#comment32 It's so sad to see an athlete walking away in serious pain before the qualifying of the sports he loves and does well. Regardless of nationality, all athletes spend years in training and they should be all respected. What’s the spirit of Olympics Games? Mon 18 Aug 2008 14:16:26 GMT+1 Tonnant http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=40#comment31 Talk about sods law, felt so sorry for him.Can't understand why the crowd did not know he was injured and in trouble, do they have the big screens because the shots on TV said it all really.Hope he has not done permanent damage Mon 18 Aug 2008 13:43:33 GMT+1 Aaron http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=39#comment30 What an unfortunate incident, Liu Xiang can leave holding his head high, cant wait to see his return to the olympics in 2012, his determination to compete for his country despite a potentially career threatning injury spoke volumes about the guy, btw "our paula" should never have went to the olympics, her tears at the end only highlighted the problems in Gb athletics, heres hopin for a speedy recovery for Liu Mon 18 Aug 2008 13:32:20 GMT+1 Ryushinku http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=38#comment29 I do hope he hasn't done himself some serious lasting damage with this. If he's had this niggling injury for 6-7 years now, then they need to take it extremely carefully with his eventual return to the track.Toddmt - thank you and congratulations in return! Mon 18 Aug 2008 13:22:30 GMT+1 marion24 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=36#comment28 It's always sad to watch an athlete walk off the field without participating in the games; but an injury is an injury, and I'm sure no one would want him to over-strain his leg. Health and well-being should be the priority! It's a shame, but there's always next time for him. He still deserves all the respect and admiration amongst his people (and also from people in other countries like myself!) Mon 18 Aug 2008 13:15:01 GMT+1 Cantab http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=35#comment27 In all honesty, as a Chinese, I feel nothing. The gold, silver and bronze medals won by all our other countrymen and women are just as equal. Yet only one or two people get so much publicity.Sure, atheletics isn't a strong field for the not ethnically diverse China. But competing against fellow experts in Table Tennis or British rowers isn't easy either. I say, it's time the Chinese people saw all of their team, medal winners or not as heros of the games. Mon 18 Aug 2008 12:19:46 GMT+1 word4word http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=34#comment26 I wish Liu Xiang a speedy recovery and I'm looking forward to seeing him compete again. Mon 18 Aug 2008 12:19:07 GMT+1 hackerjack http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=32#comment25 This post has been Removed Mon 18 Aug 2008 12:09:28 GMT+1 BulletMonkey http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=31#comment24 Bad luck Liu, but I have to wonder if the British outpouring of sympathy for him will be matched by Chinese sentiment for OUR athletes in 2012 should any of them fail. I doubt it, but then again we're likely to be too busy calling for their heads to care. Mon 18 Aug 2008 12:05:20 GMT+1 netjumper http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=30#comment23 Hey Guys. lets make peace here. It is all about a great athlete. If you want to talk about polictics there are plenty other forums.neonPaulBBThanks for supporting me. But my intention is to communicate not miscommunicate. I don't think chinese will bear grudge again western media. Most people are apolitical, like most people in this country. I live in UK one third of my life hence get to see both side of story. Argument is a good sign, that means people started to interact. there will be a lot private contacts between world and china which is great. The chinese olympic served this purpost then it is a success.blogsRboring you comments on Gao Xiaolong is upstairs although under different name. I did not bother to check the source but I got your point and your opinion agreed. Let's look forward to olympic 2012, then I can watch Liu Xiang in life action in London. Mon 18 Aug 2008 12:01:22 GMT+1 art600 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=28#comment22 Having seen the look he gave the CCTV in the tunnel approaching the running track - it was pure venom, I think he was forced to take part against his wishes.Even more astonishing was to see him kicking the wall in the warm up area.I feel very sorry for him as a person and hope he can get the best medical treatment to return to his previous form.I would hope - no I know - that no British management would behave so disgracefully. Mon 18 Aug 2008 11:57:29 GMT+1 blogsRboring http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=27#comment21 Dear Clare S It is a very sad day when the BBC is censoring the net for a foreign government. This was my post that you chose not to allow:''OK we can stick to the athletics but for the record I am being criticized for being biased when I am simply quoting Gao Xiaolong, head of the visual effects team.Just for fairness, this blog should make note of that. ''This quote was taken from a respected news agency called REUTERS that I have access to as a journalist.You censor this but choose to allow all sorts of pro-Chinese bias. I am not even allowed a right of reply. Mon 18 Aug 2008 11:51:02 GMT+1 David http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=26#comment20 neonPaulBB"To terrible person -- I not criticizing anyone, but china acquired these games fairly in 2001. Western media does nothing but attack Chinese culture and way of life, fireworks just a display, no different from Greeks in 2004 recreating their ancient civilization. If people talk badly about chinese people, china will not forget it."You ARE criticizing; just read the rest of your own post! Can everyone please try to keep on topic please, and stop turning this into East vs West. The whole point of the Olympics is to unite the world in sporting competition, not to divide us all further.I for one am very sad to see that Liu Xiang will be missing from the athletics, it could have been Beijing's Cathy Freeman moment. Mon 18 Aug 2008 11:49:09 GMT+1 Mesna reject http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=25#comment19 agree with all comments that for an athlete of his ability, not being fit for a once in a lifetime home olympics must be devastating.Unlike our own Paula however, I cant believe Liu or any of his coaches ever believed he had any chance of clearing that first hurdle.Whilst not blaming Liu directly, his faliure to withdraw much earlier will have been driven by corporates and the Chinese Olympic assocoiation wishing to keep the profile as high as possible for marketing reasons.Very sad when an athlete becomes such a pawn esp in a country so large.Good luck Liu in London 2012 Mon 18 Aug 2008 11:38:29 GMT+1 neonPaulBB http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=23#comment18 To terrible person -- I not criticizing anyone. but china acquired these games fairly in 2001. Western media does nothing but attack Chinese culture and way of life, fireworks just a display, no different from Greeks in 2004 recreating their ancient civilization. If people talk badly about chinese people, china will not forget it. Mon 18 Aug 2008 11:33:17 GMT+1 Hitcho http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=22#comment17 This post has been Removed Mon 18 Aug 2008 11:23:51 GMT+1 BlinkenLights http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=21#comment16 neonPaulBB - What right do you have to criticize anything to do with this blog? If you don't like it, you don't have read. Mon 18 Aug 2008 11:22:56 GMT+1 Toddmt http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=19#comment15 to Ryushinkuyou are absolutely right. Olympics suppose to be the biggest event in which we can see the best athletics competing. It really doesn't matter which country the athletics are from. They belong to the whole world.by the way, congratulations to those british athletes who did a good job. well done! Mon 18 Aug 2008 11:11:36 GMT+1 neonPaulBB http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=18#comment14 I agree with NetJumper. What right does any person in the west have to criticize anything to do with China? If they don't like the Games they don't have to watch. Mon 18 Aug 2008 11:11:03 GMT+1 gunnercalum2903 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=17#comment13 This post has been Removed Mon 18 Aug 2008 11:07:01 GMT+1 Toddmt http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=15#comment12 sad for him, but he is still the best and hero for us! just keep my fingers crossed for him. Most of chinese people are shocked, but also understand him. just give him the best treatment and understanding. He has done enough already!Good lukc, Liu xiang! Mon 18 Aug 2008 11:05:22 GMT+1 netjumper http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=14#comment11 I am sorry I got carried away. Yes agreed that no host country can make it perfect. It is just nature.I love Liu Xiang dearly. I just hope this will not affect his future career. He is 25 now. Next Olympic he would be 29. Let's keep fingers crossed that he can appear in london olympics. I think Lewis will be devastated too. The game is less fun lossing a worthy opponent.For now I wish he can go home and relax and have fun. I will still cheer for him when I go back to my home town shanghai next time. Does anybody know the career span for an athlectic sportman? Mon 18 Aug 2008 10:59:47 GMT+1 dubs387 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=13#comment10 Very sad for this chap and the expectations of his nation.Can anyone tell me (please help BBC!) the music behind the clip used recently showing the story behind his build up to the olympics and trainer press conference? It had a beautiful piano playing in the background?Thanks in advance Mon 18 Aug 2008 10:52:24 GMT+1 Claire S - BBC Sport http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=11#comment9 Folks, this post is about Liu Xiang's terribly sad exit. Can we keep it on topic please. Mon 18 Aug 2008 10:38:41 GMT+1 Pootle-Flump http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=10#comment8 I feel sorry for Liu, but has one of the Olympians just died? No. Please let's keep this in context.And to netjumper re the 'fakes':The director may have "openly talked about it", but the story was then pulled from several Chinese news sites, including China Daily and Xinhua. Does this suggest to you that the authorities are comfortable with the story?And some of the fireworks (29 giant footprints) were faked. Gao Xiaolong, head of the ceremony visual effects team has admitted it. So, I'll definitely take truth over opinion. Mon 18 Aug 2008 10:37:42 GMT+1 netjumper http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=9#comment7 The so called firework was not faked in the the end. Check this out. http://community.livejournal.com/olympicgames08/18598.htmlGeez it is difficult to breach the fence erected by western media to get the message through huh. No wonder china was working hard to get the openning ceremony right. Guys you want truth or opinion from some cheeze journalist? The choice is yours. Mon 18 Aug 2008 10:28:13 GMT+1 batdude_uk123 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=7#comment6 Sad for him, but please lets concentrate on the plus side of this situation, that means there is mor chance of a British medal with two of ours through to the next round. Mon 18 Aug 2008 10:16:58 GMT+1 netjumper http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=6#comment5 to blogsRboring The singer is not fake. It was a joint effort which is clearly written on the programme list. That is why chinese director was openly talked about it.fake ethnic minorities and fake fireworks? Do you have proof? or it is just word of mouth? I have friends who live just blockes away from the stadium. He sent me pictures of firework I don't think it is fake. Mon 18 Aug 2008 10:15:08 GMT+1 blogsRboring http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=5#comment4 This post has been Removed Mon 18 Aug 2008 10:03:02 GMT+1 Ryushinku http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=3#comment3 Lots of sympathy for Liu. It was hardly the best-kept secret that he was struggling with injuries but that he wasn't even able to finish a race must be a crushing disappointment for the Chinese.Not just the Chinese really, but anyone who appreciated good athletics. It will definitely be a poorer event without him. Mon 18 Aug 2008 09:59:01 GMT+1 netjumper http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=2#comment2 I feel so sad for Liu Xiang. We chinese don't mind whether he gets a medal or not this time. He is well loved because his spirit. We will always love him whatever he does. I hope he is not too sad for the result this year and recover sooooooon.Send my best wishes on the way. Mon 18 Aug 2008 09:56:15 GMT+1 superthone http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=1#comment1 I am absolutely shocked and disappointed.No words can describe what the Chinese feels.God bless him. Mon 18 Aug 2008 09:55:13 GMT+1 sportsnut59 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/the_moment_liu_xiang_broke_chi.html?page=0#comment0 Very sad for Liu Xiang but a glance at the overall medal table should help to console the Chinese. Mon 18 Aug 2008 09:28:15 GMT+1