Comments for en-gb 30 Sat 23 Aug 2014 13:31:52 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at Ed Iglehart Army Vet,Well said!Peace and diversitySalaam/Shalom/Shanthied Sat 08 Nov 2008 14:27:05 GMT+1 USArmyVet1935 USARMYVET1935: While I voted for Obama and very proud of what we in the US have achieved in electing our first African-American candidate to be our President, I am sick and tired of the western media, even one like the BBC as the first of its kind in the world. Factually, it is untrue. It is unfortunate that much of the western world as well as the US continue to consider the US as the center of the world. What we lack is humility, which is even evident when we characterize some of our sporting events as "world series"!Reg: Minorities holding the highest offices in a democracy. Britain's own former colony, viz., India since it became independent (1947) has elected a member of a tiny minority (Sikhs) Dr. Manmohan Singh as its Prime Minister. It had its first Dalit as President (K.R. Narayan) in 1997. It has had a Sikh President (Zail Singh) in 1982., three Muslim Presidents (F.A.Ahmed-1974, Zakir Hussain-1967, and Dr. Kalam-2002). Its most recent President is a woman (Patil) and as many know it has had its first woman Prime Minister in 1966 (Indira Gandhi). The president of its ruling party (Indian Congress Party) in 1969 was a Dalit (Jag Jivan Ram) and its present President of the Party is Sonia Gandhi (Italian-Indian). But, does any of these mean that India has eliminated its caste and religious conflicts despite laws prohibiting prejudices based on caste or one's faith. No. But, they are making faster progress than the US and the West have been able to. Unfortunately, the achievements of the non-western countries to usher in interfaith amity and inter-ethnic cooperation are vastly underreported and unrecognized by the western media.US and much of the west need to be a little more humble and not continue to claim that egalitarianism is an exclusive western aspiration. Religious pluralism and the virtues of equality of human beings were recognized in eastern religions long before they were embraced by the western brands of Judeo-Christian cultures.Neither the US or the West is the center of the world. Sat 08 Nov 2008 14:14:08 GMT+1 Arthur Putey This post has been Removed Thu 06 Nov 2008 09:54:42 GMT+1 possumpam Absolutely agree with all your devoted readers who think you should have been leading the Election coverage on the BBC. Surely of all BBC commentators you are the one withthe best up-to-date knowledge of today's USA.Nothing against Dimbleby & Co but 'horses for courses' is the best rule to follow - and the best horse would have been the one whose specialityhas been a daily commentary on US affairs'Thanks Justin. Thu 06 Nov 2008 09:28:26 GMT+1 richardkouadio The Americans have not elected a black man, they have elected the Democrats, which means they want to see what the Democrats can do for them. This has nothing to do with color & the making of history, its all about human beings!!!!Margaret DamonLewisham, London Wed 05 Nov 2008 22:48:35 GMT+1 Slater582 My highlight of the night was the Gore Vidal interview.Brilliant. Wed 05 Nov 2008 19:11:08 GMT+1 tricia79 It's been a long road and I'm glad Obama won. I think that other countries should stop using a mindset that says that our President runs their lives. Asking us to be responsible in our voting isn't enough, they should take responsibility for their own action (inaction?) as well. Wed 05 Nov 2008 19:07:42 GMT+1 ladycm 195. At 05:08am on 05 Nov 2008, Wil_Ng wrote:"OBAMA won. However, by a small majority in popular votes".7,000,000 people. You should have waited to write that. 7,000,000 people is a lot of people. Much larger gap than the 2004 election which was like 2,000,000. 7,000,000 is like an entire state, actually larger than many Alaska for instance. Wed 05 Nov 2008 17:57:48 GMT+1 ladycm Okay, I woke up this morning and I was so excited. What a great day yesterday was for the U.S. Not only did we break a major color barrier but, I think that the middle class and the majority of America won last night. I know many people are skeptical about the promises Barack Obama made but, don't discount him yet. It was amazing to see the turn out. I always vote and have since I turned 18 but, I think many people have felt disaffected towards their government. Now people actually feel like this is their government, a government for the people. I think it's just a fantastic day for America and I am so excited to be an American citizen today. Wed 05 Nov 2008 17:29:57 GMT+1 Cassandra #295I think I can explain why the offending person keeps calling Obama "passive."Obama is eloquent, calm, rational, dignified, educated, and compassionate. If he wanted to appeal to the Other Side, he'd swagger and swear, maybe get a DUI or two. When insulted, he'd pitch a fit and over-react since temper passes for manliness in some unfortunate segments of our society. These are the same folks who thought actor John (all talk, no cowboy) Wayne was actually a hero and patriot. America and all the nations directly affected by her actions don't need swagger and bombast. What we need (and got) is a rational person at the reins. Wed 05 Nov 2008 16:35:14 GMT+1 Gary_A_Hill Can Obama reach out to small-town America in the upper midwest? He carried Indiana, didn't he? Wed 05 Nov 2008 16:03:51 GMT+1 hullsfamousson wiliam wilberforce hulls most famous son and martin luther king would be smiling down today. history was made today Wed 05 Nov 2008 14:53:15 GMT+1 InclineVillager 134. At 03:59am on 05 Nov 2008, Runner5k wrote:(I don't understand that the Republican party doesn't represent us poor peopleTake a look at the crowd at the McCain speech. Did you see poor people there?Sorry, you need to review policies. Trickle down doesn't work. No tax cuts for you. John McCain has tax cuts for only those in the highest income brackets. He'll get one. as will his pals. He's worth 45 million and takes his 50,000 pension from the us gov. every year. Check out For more history on McCain look up the keating scandal. He has flip flopped so many times on everything I don't know what he believes anymore. Look up McCain on Utube and see for your self, in his own words he contridicts himself on everything. Are you paying for your own health care plan out of pocket for yourself and a family of 4? If so you'd know what a joke his plan is. Almost all developed economies know that health care is not a comidity. You have to help people when they show up in the emergency room sick, it's not an option. Tax payers foot the bill. Universal health care will have to happen, like it or not.If you have a college degree you are in the 30 or 40% of Americans who are very fortunate. Take a class on the culture of poverty or Bridges out of poverty and you will learn about how many Americans just pass down poverty and don't have access to opportuny and no one to help them. It's not the same for everyone. Schools aren't equal. Neighborhoods aren't equal. Will john need to fix social security, or need to worry about health care? no. John was a child of privledge and access. West point. Pilot. 3rd generation in the military the son and grandson of genrals. He dropped bombs on people he never saw, no hand to hand combat. The he was captured and tortured. Being a POW doesn't qualify someone to be president. He didn't have to pay for his care when he got home, because of his story he got some of the best care. He doesn't know the vet experience normal people go through. John knows war, but that doesn't make him great. Rent the movie Alive Day, about Iraq soliders who are coming back alive from the war. 30,000 plus wounded. No one counts them. John doesn't know when to cut your losses and leave a war with no WMD, we illegally started, and killed millions of Iraq citizens. Ask yourself why it isn't televised so we can see whats happening. I have no faith that John won't lead us into too many other wars. He didn't live a hard life and make something of himself the hard way.Republicans had their chance the last 8 years and it clearly doesn't work! How bad does it have to get for you to be convienced. They won't take blame for anything they do. They had control of three branchs of Gov, and we are screwed up. Face it. The polices do not work. Maybe McCain had more intelligence than Bush but the policies are stil flawed. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer the last 8 years. Exxon Mobil just made Record breaking Profits! Most people just lost their retirements and were laid off. Good luck finding a job buy the way... Wed 05 Nov 2008 14:52:07 GMT+1 vcm1967a Princess-on-the-pea wrote..."If you neither want to know nor care what the world thinks, stick with Fox, much more up your alley."Bravo!Gotta love Fox News!"We instruct... YOU OBEY!" Wed 05 Nov 2008 14:48:55 GMT+1 john-In-Dublin 226 TimothyR444 wrote: "As for Pelosi: you're kidding yourself, pal. Obama is an intelligent, passive man who has none of the steel of Pelosi. She will run things. Sorry - that's the truth."Sorry - that's your opinion. Specifically, that's your prediction, based on your own particular biases - regardless of whether or not you see yourself as 'independent'.I can't say that 'passive' is the first word most people would use to describe Obama. Some kind of Forrest Gump, carried along by greater forces? So, an inexperienced African American senator decides to run for President against the runaway favourite, backed by the legendary Clinton machine - but he's 'passive'?Time will tell.Just one other question - have there been any of your many posts where you WEREN'T complaining about horrid foreigners picking on the poor old US?Because I must have missed that one... Wed 05 Nov 2008 14:12:04 GMT+1 vcm1967a "The Republicans will find someone to gather a new coalition together but it will not be Sarah Palin."Sorry to disappoint, my friend... but they will. The typical Republican is noted worldwide for its' inflexibility and stubborness.Most Americans, as you may be aware from living here with us, are only concerned with three things.1: How does it look?2: Does it offend my delicate sensibilities?3: Does it have a beat I can dance to?The most frightening thing about the whole Palin issue... besides her alleged abuse of power in her home state... is that when Tina Fey did her celebrated impressions of her on SNL, I had to look twice to make sure that it was not really Sarah Palin. Wed 05 Nov 2008 14:05:19 GMT+1 Stephen Derry "is it really that much of an issue that it needs to be mentioned in just about every sentence?"Yes!Because in every future election, because of today, it will not be an issue at all. Wed 05 Nov 2008 13:48:45 GMT+1 Matt Pryor As someone who would quite like to have seen Obama win, I found the BBC's coverage last night incredibly biased towards him. By the end of the night I was hoping for a McCain win just to see the expression on Mr Dimbleby's face!Am I also the only one fed up with the constant references, analasys and pundetry pertaining to the colour of Obama's skin? Yes it's great to have a first black President, but is it really that much of an issue that it needs to be mentioned in just about every sentence? Wed 05 Nov 2008 12:39:49 GMT+1 djewesbury I'm wondering why no-one's commented on the significance of Obama's use of that phrase from MLK's 'mountain-top' speech in Memphis, on 3rd April 68, when King said "I've been to the mountain-top.. and I have seen the promised land. I may not get there with you.. but I want you to know that we as a people will get to the promised land.." King was shot within a few hours of making the speech, of course. For Obama to say, as Justin misses in his quotation, that "we as a people will get there" is for him explicitly and consciously to quote King, and moreover, to promise to fulfill that prophecy of King's. This is hugely significant: not just a Black man in the White House, but one who shows himself willing, finally, to take on and continue King's legacy, in the highest office of the land. Wed 05 Nov 2008 10:56:01 GMT+1 Nick-Gotts "I can't think of ONE black man in all jistory that was a viable, substancial political figure any where in the world, let alone America, but whamo here is one with the most powerful postition on earth!" - rwbennettI think that nauseating piece of garbage tells us all we need, or indeed want, to know about rwbennett.By the way:Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Jesse Jackson, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice (OK, not a black man, exactly), Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki, Kofi Annan...You can't really think very much at call, can you, you racist conspiracy-monger? Wed 05 Nov 2008 10:49:45 GMT+1 Belmons 19. At 01:36am on 05 Nov 2008, TimothyR444 wrote:"This blog does have its fascinating aspects: all these lectures about what Americans need to learn and how to think and how yo behave and what to believe. It is a window in to how others see us.At times, the comments are so fantastically patronizing and condescending it's hard to believe they are serious. But they are always fascinating. One might think the posters from Britain had all the answers for every question in the world.It would be interesting to observe their elections - and tell them how to think, respond and vote."But Timothy, you guys have been telling the rest of the world how to behave for years, and using political, financial, and military muscle to make them do it. That is exactly what has made America unpopular.As for Justin's comment about the 2012 "formidable " challenge of Palin, surely she will not even be the Presidential candidate. Even the Republicans believe her selection was what sank McCain, so why on earth would they choose her? Thankfully, she is consigned to history, or a small footnote thereof. Wed 05 Nov 2008 10:27:13 GMT+1 burnadot Thank you BBC for the US election map and the minute by minute update, the State by State coverage facts and figures were superb. Bernie Brisbane,Aus Wed 05 Nov 2008 10:22:59 GMT+1 Nick-Gotts "IMPERIALIST! From a BRIT!" - TimothyR444Thing is, TimothyR444, I'm not a nationalist halfwit like you. I wholeheartedly condemn British as well as US imperialism, most obvious recently in the illegal invasion of Iraq.As for you:Bitter, much?Sore loser, much?Self-pity, much? Wed 05 Nov 2008 10:20:30 GMT+1 sampsiceramus 285. singingcave wrote:"I believe in the possibilities, but I will trust when the new administration proves themselves worthy of trust."I surely hope they will. I'm old enough not to trust politicians, but still young enough to have hope Wed 05 Nov 2008 09:55:45 GMT+1 singingcave sampsi:I have no idea what's going to happen, but the possibilities excite meI am not even a little bit capable of expressing my thoughts in one my sentence.And I'm with you 110% about trusting politicians. I believe in the possibilities, but I will trust when the new administration proves themselves worthy of trust.I hope that comes quickly, but politicians are politicians. They deserve more Oscars than Hollywood. Hope all is well with your world...Peace and light to all. Wed 05 Nov 2008 09:47:42 GMT+1 Princess-on-the-pea Congratulations USA. What great news to wake up to. I watched President Obama’s acceptance speech and was moved to tears. While I agree that McCain’s speech was gracious, this continued use of ‘the greatest nation on earth’ is part of what gets the rest of the world’s goat particularly after 8 years of disaster.TimothyR444 – you are a bit of a sore loser and also have a great deal of hostility. 194 – The policies of war on terror have been Al Qaeda’s best recruiting message. For that matter Al Qaeda weren’t in Iraq before and now they are so yes America can be blamed for some elements of terrorism. Why do you think Al Qaeda wanted a McCain win? 205 – Why are you even wasting your time on the BBC site? If you neither want to know nor care what the world thinks, stick with Fox, much more up your alley.171 – cloggingbantam – it’s ridiculous to compare any European country with the US. Most minorities in Europe are for the most part at best second generation with many years to go before they can be compared to African Americans who have been part of the structure of that country almost from the beginning. Considering how few years most of the European countries have had minorities I think they are actually quite well represented in politics.But I do agree – Well done USA – the world will be thinking well of you today.177 – Was there a point somewhere in that…272 rwbennett – You cannot seriously be implying that no black man should win an election? If I read you right then you are displaying the exact worst things about the right that has been written about you. Wed 05 Nov 2008 09:47:31 GMT+1 Candace9839 Yippee!!! Wed 05 Nov 2008 09:32:29 GMT+1 sampsiceramus 281. singingcave wrote:"Your post got my defenses up, but thanks for the response.I feel better."Happy to hear that.I'd actually to think pretty hard on how to express (in one short sentence) what I personally feel (and a lot of other people is feeling as well, I guess) about what this election means, how the perception of the USA changed in a few short hours.It is not that I especially trust Obama (I'm too old to actually trust a politician), but the feel is that the whole PEOPLE of the USA was on test and passed the test brilliantly.------------------------------------------------Anyway... President Obama, you are not bad for a politician Wed 05 Nov 2008 09:25:08 GMT+1 singingcave #sampsiThanks for the explanation. I get it! Americans who are smart travelers are always aware of political issues and when they should keep their mouth's shut. There are plenty of dumb of Americans who seem to unaware of all of this. I hate this. There are also some stereotypes of drunken Europeans, and I don't think that is a fair representation of Europe.Your post got my defenses up, but thanks for the response.I feel better.Peace and light... Wed 05 Nov 2008 09:08:54 GMT+1 pkaarre 195. At 05:08am on 05 Nov 2008, Wil_Ng wrote:OBAMA won. However, by a small majority in popular votes.This shows the number 1 thing american need is balance media and proper education.China has a higher education standard than USA.On a night where America's extraordinary democratic tradition has proven itself alive and well, I find it amusing that a Chinese citizen would dare criticize Americans. If the Chinese have better education standards, how do you put up with a dictatorship who limits your access to the media and information? I've been to China, and loved it, but I'd rather not take Chinese advice on how to advance America...given the massive problems you face.Thank God Barack Obama won! No more Bush! This is the start of something new!!! This isn't just another politician, this is someone who can really unite people...for once, a mass movement elected someone out of hope and optimism rather than fear and cynicism. Wed 05 Nov 2008 09:04:22 GMT+1 singingcave British-ishSorry, I forgot this. I completely agree with you about healing divisions.It makes for great sound bites, but that's about it. Neither candidate had a good plan for that.We'll just see how that goes.And please stop the nonsense about not posting. I just got here!!I disagree with you, but conversations about important things are more interesting and fun and enlightening if you are not preaching to the choir. I hate echo chambers Wed 05 Nov 2008 08:31:44 GMT+1 StayWoke Greetings! Namaste. A new world, not the New World Order has begun. This new world will be more compassionate and loving. Believe me. We, meaning human beings, are coming to an end and GOD will again take back the world s/he has given us. Who knows what the next incarnation of life on this planet will look like, but we have been given the chance to make amends before we exit. We NOW have a chance to love one another as GOD has commanded us to. In these last days, REJOICE and know that the arch of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice. Prepare for the PAX OBAMA. We are the ones we've been waiting for. Let's do unto others as we would have done unto us. AFRICA UNITE!!!! Meaning, as we once all came from Africa (as a species) let us now, as a WORLD, unite in PEACE and LOVE so that our creator's will on Earth shall be as it is in heaven. We can all live simply so that we all can simply live. WE ARE ALL ONE. One people. One aim. One destiny. Thank you and GOD BLESS. Wed 05 Nov 2008 08:25:57 GMT+1 8string "...can Obama reach out to Pottsville?" if Pottsville is a racist's tonight's results...from the Pottsville county web site..McCain carried 33k to Obama's 28k votes, Ralph Nader got 700 votes! It doesn't seem like Pottsville is all of one mind! They even sent a Demo named Tim Holden to Congress in a landslide of 47k to 15k. and they even passed their water and sewer bond, in the midst of a recession.So I think that, yes, Obama can reach out to them and they to him. If it's one thing I've learned, the world is not black and white, but shades of grey, and also brown... Wed 05 Nov 2008 08:22:42 GMT+1 singingcave #266 british-isI clicked on your link long before I wrote that.Was I supposed to get some new insight? Sorry, it didn't happen. Many worldly and highly intelligent people can be pompous asses.And just as often, pompous asses think they are worldly and intelligent.And stop with the last post crap. You know damn well you will continue to post!Best wishes to you in anyway! Wed 05 Nov 2008 08:18:32 GMT+1 BienvenueEnLouisiana #263. *sigh* redagast, the staleness of your platitudes and the rhetorical nature of your questions bore me; *yawn* Wed 05 Nov 2008 08:15:55 GMT+1 angelfacethefirst iam gobsmacked! it is a very emotional moment for me as a British black person to see something like this happen. I absolutely never belived that this would happen in my lifetime. Barack Obama comes over as a very sincere and able person. Perhaps he can influence ordinary people and the media here to look beyond the colour of someone's skin and talk about their abilities instead. Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:58:29 GMT+1 gasblogger finally the time has come in which i will not hear anymore that non white people are discriminated because of their colour, that they committ crimes because are discriminted, that they are not educated because are discriminated, that they cannot achieve results in life because are discriminated. Now their mask can come off and show to the world what they can do. If Obama can do it why they cannot do it? During my work in foreigner countries all the time i had to be carefull to use the right words to avoid to sound racist and hear always the same people who were not capable that their condition was determinated by their skin colour. They love to live in this ondition , it is easier to blame somebody else.Now not more excuses can be accepted and i say to everyone not to accept them and to tell them to work their ass off like everyone else. Now we can feel free to say and express our real opinion about them without being accused of being racist. Work ur ass off!! the time has come. WE NEED CHANGE!!!! Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:54:08 GMT+1 Robert Bennett This post has been Removed Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:42:38 GMT+1 lisacoops In response to jlindas:"What do the BBC anchors have pinned on their jackets? They look like apples but I have no idea what they are."Those 'apples' are paper poppies, a powerful symbol representing Remembrance Day, held each year since the end of World War 1 to commemorate those lost in war. It is the most poignant of days 'celebrated' in the UK, on November 11th each year (Remembrance Sunday, when official remembrance parades are held, is the nearest Sunday to this date). At 11.11am, the country falls into silence in remembrance of all of those killed or injured in war, including those who have lost their lives in recent conflicts. The paper poppies are distributed each year by the Royal British Legion and, come November, it is an expectation that people wear them - it is, in fact, very unusual NOT to see news anchors or any other TV personality for that matter wearing them. Hope that helps! Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:38:58 GMT+1 NETCRUSHER Timothy - When you have far right radicals it is easy for the terrorists to use propaganda to promote their cause - not so easy now. Listening to Imran Khan on BBC Hardtalk he mentioned how the bombing of “smart bombing " killing civilians has turned many moderates into extremists hence why you are creating more terrorists then killing them.... The end of the far right radicals will shift the perspectives... Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:36:59 GMT+1 sampsiceramus #261"It would appear that you are not that well traveled, or you make it a point to stay away from Americans."I'm quite well traveled, thanks.Wish I could have 1 cent for every km I covered in my life.Not all Americans stick Canadian flags on their backpacks, but some do. Well, they used to sell "Canadian Kits" on the internet after Bush won.In any case I tried to express a feeling, not really to be literal. Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:30:09 GMT+1 middlecroony Oh sorry i meant 245 i guess Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:29:50 GMT+1 Cassandra Checking back in before I tuck the computer in for the night.John McCain was certainly more gracious in defeat than in battle. And infinitely more generous than his supporters. They should try to live up to his example.They won't of course. Ah well, dear McCainers, as the brilliant Mr. Idle says:If life seems jolly rottenThere's something you've forgottenAnd that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.When you're feeling in the dumpsDon't be silly chumpsJust purse your lips and whistle - that's the thing.And...always look on the bright side of life... Always look on the light side of life... Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:29:31 GMT+1 british-ish 231. singingcavePerhaps if you examined the map of the various states and looked at the analyses of voting from the exit polls, you would grasp what I meant.Obama and McCain might both talk about unity and healing divisions, but actually doing it is much much harder than talking about it.Now, why don't you click on my screen name (even just reading it might tell you something!) to find out a little more about what I've written here instead of jumping to ill-founded conclusions?Since I am now thoroughly weary of this sort of misapprehension -- as I am sure Justin must be -- this is the last I shall write here.Except that, as it is, I can let rip with an answer I've been tempted to make several times:[I am] "one of those people that are so worldly and smart, people can only possibly disagree if they are just to stupid to understand" you wrote.Yep. Got it in one. Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:27:40 GMT+1 middlecroony #263BLAH BLAH BLAH Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:27:24 GMT+1 StuartGaia I think the world is overwhelmingly aware of what Obama's victory means. America is coming out of the darkness of the past 8 years of George W. Bush, war, greed, and environmental devastation.Help welcome America back into the community of nations. Post a photo with your sentiments at Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:27:23 GMT+1 Cameron 245. BienvenueEnLouisiana wrote:hehe; getting out all that hate of Republicans now that the election's over, redagast. Just remember, there will be other elections. At least 48% of the country voted for McCain in the popular vote and they were hardly all the stereotyped "bible bashing, gun totin, gay hatin, war lovin, rednecks" that you described.Such gloating says more about your intolerant self than anything else.*********************************Yes there will be more elections, and 48% of you will be beaten again if the repubs put another Sarah Palin on their ticket.I never said you were all....see above...just the ones that were running the show and the hard right fascists that imbecilic Palin attract.And I don't really care what my gloating says about me, I know who I am, do you know who you are ? Hehehehe Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:18:23 GMT+1 middlecroony Doesn't anyone know just how to have a good time? Have a V&T go to the mirror look at yourslf and give yourself a big kiss! this is a great day!!!! Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:16:12 GMT+1 singingcave #240"Now American travelers can stop sticking Canadian flags on their backpacks.Americans! We are no longer pissed off with you"It would appear that you are not that well traveled, or you make it a point to stay away from Americans.I travel to many countries (no, not just Mexico and Canada), and I have never had a problem traveling as a US citizen. I'm extremely open about it.People like to tell me exactly what they think about US foreign policy, but it's never been personal. Not on any continent. Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:13:19 GMT+1 SamTyler1969 Morning all!Glad that's done with. Can we go fix some stuff now?Carpenter Sam Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:13:11 GMT+1 ladycm 214. At 05:40am on 05 Nov 2008, roblengyel wrote:"Barack old mate, I hope I am wrong but your speech scares me mate - it makes you sound like another inward looking American leader who cares nothing about the rest of us and we have had enough world leaders who always sprout nationalism and never consider globalism".All that from a 10 minute speech? Remember now, he has 4 years ahead of him. You probably are not going to like this answer but, we have some issues domestically that have to be fixed now. Climate change is hugely important, you are correct. But, this is an example of how people in other countries maybe are too quick to judge. Apparently, we can never take a step in the right direction in America. Health care has to be #1 along with the economy. I really don't know anyone who hasn't been directly affect by this in their everyday life here including myself. But, I am hopeful Obama will attack climate change because it is very important. It needs to be addressed soon. Joe Biden has an excellent record of being a champion for the enviroment. Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:09:16 GMT+1 tctexas Being a native Texan, this was a very strenuous election. I have never felt more proud of the United States than I am now. We the people have spoken... We believe in a global economy with strong allies. We believe in the power of a positive Government, and we believe in the fundamental structure that created our country. We are a Country that needs restructuring and new leadership. We are a country that needs a new path. But most of all, we are a country that needs a leader like Obama that not only has a vision and respect for the USA, but has a respect for all man kind.P.S. For those that are worried about Obama having a Muslim faith, he has held his Chritian faith at the same church for 20 years. And honestly, we are the UNITED States, should it really matter? That is why we fought for our country in the first place. Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:09:03 GMT+1 Parrisia Obama means decency, diversity and tolerance. Instead of a simple concession speech McCain owes him an apology for the the crappy election slurs Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:04:19 GMT+1 darlolad01 He did it, and didn't we know he would. Senator McCaine did his best and I hope he retires now because he deserves to.I'm excited to see what he brings to the USA. Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:01:30 GMT+1 paul939 #248"He was beaten by a con man with ties to the Chicago underground"He was beaten by his own campaign, hijacked by all the neocons. And stop being a sore loser. And mind your language. Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:00:48 GMT+1 singingcave For all of those that have been justifiably concerned over the media's love of Obama, your time is now!!In the next couple of months, I suspect they are going to write about all of his shortcomings.I voted for Obama, but the media coverage bothered me more than a little. Now that he's in, watch for the "serious analysis".Justin seemed to give McCain more of a fair shake than most of the US media, certainly more than the BBC overall. Wed 05 Nov 2008 07:00:06 GMT+1 paul939 "Someone at the McCain wake has told an AP reporter: "I'm very afraid that we're going to lose our freedoms, that the country will be controlled by almost a dictator."Funny how suddenly they talk about dictators and stuff after all that's happened over the last 8 years. Wasn't it a no-brain administration that behaved like a dictator suddenly finds use of the word "dictator"? Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:58:19 GMT+1 ladycm 244. At 06:30am on 05 Nov 2008, ladycm"This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules". Garbage. Total garbage. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:57:18 GMT+1 Cameron #236 TimothyR444 wrote:Ha! How do you know who I voted for?There is no place where I defend Bush. Never have - never will.I DO think independently - and I do not like sentimental hysteria surrounding politics and I do not like anti-Americanism.When I see any of that, I point it out.There must be someone on this "Worship Obama" blog who takes a pragmatic perspective.I find the "Americans are evil. We might forgive them" routine to be absurd.Surely even in your way of thinking there is room for independence. Emotions are not the only answer.**********************************Mate, good to hear you don't and won't defend Bush, because his administration is undefendable and some of them should be sent to the Hague for war crimes.Also, glad to hear that no-one tells you how to think etc. I'm not and I think most of us on here are not Anti-American, we just grew tired of the USG and had to take it out on someone.And the America is evil and we might forgive them bla di bla bla, is a bit of a generalization of the views posted here. You say this is a worship Obama blog, I think not, more of a republican disdain blog so Obama is the logical benefactor.As for Pelosi running the show, well I guess we will just have to wait and see, but the President hasn't been running the US for quite some time now. Cheney and Rove have been pulling Bush's strings for 8 years so you should be used to it by now. I wish you all the best TimothyR444, maybe this blog has enlightened you what the people in the lands of your Allies think of the US, and maybe you should care. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:56:51 GMT+1 ladycm 240. At 06:17am on 05 Nov 2008, sampsiceramus wrote:"Now American travelers can stop sticking Canadian flags on their backpacks.Americans! We are no longer pissed off with you"HAHA! You guys found out? Crap... Plan B is in effect until Jan 20th 2009. I can't tell you what it is but, it involves us Americans using a word that we often make fun of and don't understand "eh". Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:54:00 GMT+1 U13672791 This post has been Removed Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:53:53 GMT+1 Darrell Add on North Carolina too. We have been through the county by county tallies .... we also know that the provisional ballots will favor Democrats - in part because of the new registrations lead by the DEM's.NC Turned Blue ... first time since 1976 with Jimmy Carter. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:43:59 GMT+1 David Cunard "Virginia is a changed state - it has grown by 50% in 10 years. Those newcomers are not your granny's Virginians. Virginia looks and feels different."Justin makes these sweeping assertions as if he's lived in the USA for so long and has absorbed so much. He's been in Washington just six years, so how can he compare what the state was like ten years ago with what it is today?"Someone at the McCain wake has told an AP reporter: "I'm very afraid that we're going to lose our freedoms, that the country will be controlled by almost a dictator."No more than Tony Blair was or any other head of the UK government given a working majority. One can hope that there will be a filibuster-proof chamber so that proposed polices can wind their way onto the statute book.Because Justin is a six-year resident, I wonder if he has yet taken citizenship? He's almost more American than the Americans. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:43:11 GMT+1 8string I and my father were born in Pottsville, and while we don't live there now, I'm here to tell you that I'm sure that Pottsville will rise to the occassion of supporting a president who brings the promise of real change to this country. This current administration has bankrupted us, morally and fiscally. We want the world to know that we are thrilled with this outcome and hope this begins the healing process of the massive injustices that the Bush administration did under the cover of 9/11 along with a majority in Congress. We are anxiously awaiting the start of a new era, and hope you will work with us to turn this mess around. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:40:01 GMT+1 BienvenueEnLouisiana #219. hehe; getting out all that hate of Republicans now that the election's over, redagast. Just remember, there will be other elections. At least 48% of the country voted for McCain in the popular vote and they were hardly all the stereotyped "bible bashing, gun totin, gay hatin, war lovin, rednecks" that you described.Such gloating says more about your intolerant self than anything else. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:35:57 GMT+1 ladycm This post has been Removed Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:30:12 GMT+1 Parrisia G.W.Bush destroyed the budget and the economy and now his party has conveniently let someone else pick-up the pieces. Good luck, Barack, you're in for a tough ride Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:30:11 GMT+1 Xie_Ming # 154 "Smiling in the streets in Britain over an AMERICAN election?"Indeed! As earlier postings claimed, Britain, among the civilized nations, feels that it is dependent on the USA for defense and foreign policy.Obama may do much, butWith 38% of the exit polls supporting Palin, there is a dark cloud impending over America's future.Leadership must pass to a coalition of civilized nations and the USA be left to sink into a Talebani-like future. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:26:55 GMT+1 jonnyrobb Well Justin, you were in the can for Obama right for the start.. it was when you compared Hillary to Hitler that I tuned out and even wrote a letter to the BBC calling for you to be sacked.America does need a new direction.. and it's all good and well picking a black man for the job, but not this one. I don't think he deserved it.Colin Powell is a man who had he ran for the president would have been a black man who deserved it.It's okay.. we need a new direction and I'm happy that we've changed paths.. I just hope YOUR man can take us there. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:19:28 GMT+1 sampsiceramus Now American travelers can stop sticking Canadian flags on their backpacks.Americans! We are no longer pissed off with you Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:17:32 GMT+1 watermanaquarius Occasionally in a lifetime one experiences happenings that are out of this world.In 1969 it was the first moon landing but todays result supercedes that.If you will excuse me paraphrasing quotes for the free worlds new president." One giant step for that man, one small leap for mankind"A journey of a thousand miles that the world has been eagerly awaiting begins today with this single step.Congratulations America. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:16:51 GMT+1 Stephen Derry Everyone from Dan Rather to quite a few of Fox News' analysts seems to think Obama will govern from the centre and include at least a couple of Republicans in his administration. Tom Luger's name is being mentioned.It would be a wise move, and shut up half his critics in one blow without particularly compromising on his agenda.Of course there are people who will post "he'll never do it" right up until he does it, at which point they'll change their tune to "it's just a publicity stunt."They remind me of Monty Python's Black Knight... Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:15:47 GMT+1 british-ish I forgot, stupidly. I'm sometimes easily distracted.I'd meant to say 'thanks and all the best' to all those contributors who have both informed me, challenged me and amused me, even helped by joining in with my occasional little fantasies and bits of fun.(Except of course, the amalgam listed in Stephen's No 313 in "Sinister Motives". A suitable place in which to name them, I thought.)Ciao. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:11:13 GMT+1 TimothyR444 redagast:"Hehehehehe Timothy"Ha! How do you know who I voted for?There is no place where I defend Bush. Never have - never will.I DO think independently - and I do not like sentimental hysteria surrounding politics and I do not like anti-Americanism.When I see any of that, I point it out.There must be someone on this "Worship Obama" blog who takes a pragmatic perspective.I find the "Americans are evil. We might forgive them" routine to be absurd.Surely even in your way of thinking there is room for independence. Emotions are not the only answer. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:09:18 GMT+1 BienvenueEnLouisiana Don't forget people, Obama isn't the President yet; this is the transition period where by the President Elect works to create a cabinet. There will also be a lamb duck Congressional session before Inauguration Day on Jan. 20th. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:06:07 GMT+1 Andrew_J2008 Just as the BrOther moved to the center when he learned he needed to be less liberal (dare I say share the wealth socialist?) to win the election (about the time his accent became more mid-western versus urban) he doubt disappointing a whole lot of his supporters when he cannot deliver on his promises. Let the games begin! Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:05:19 GMT+1 tuborg how amazing the first black president (or mayby not, part white)proberbly had a good education and some backing to go into politics. A big deal has been made about Obama being afroamerican. Throughout the nighte by the BBC.What would have been amazing, great, and truly life changening would be an originioal inhabitant off the USA, native american as President. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:02:28 GMT+1 lawchicago Its late in Chicago . Its been a amazing day .I see the backdrop of my life having grown up in this city ,in the scenes from Grant Park as I see them on television this evening . I would have never imagined that a day like today would or could have happened in my life . I am overwhelmed in emotion . I wish my Dad and Mom were alive today to see this day.Its been a long life , sixty years and counting .I have seen this city change , reinvent itself and grow. I am proud to be from Chicago. To the world - one short note :We have this incredible guy from the South Side here that we would like you to get to know Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:02:27 GMT+1 singingcave #206 Could you sound more sour and cynical? Don't get me started on bitter.You're looking at a stupid red/blue state map after tonight?Why dismiss all of those that didn't vote as you did?Are you eager for change or just do you like to bitch about people who don't share your viewpoint?Let me guess, you fancy yourself as one of those people that are so worldly and smart, people can only possibly disagree if they are just to stupid to understand things the way you do. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:01:46 GMT+1 hontogaijin it would figure that you would bring up strongsville, ohio one more time. i've remained quiet about this...strongsville, ohio is, literally, a 2 minute drive from my house. the, now infamous, republican rally took place about 5 minutes from my house; i live in the city directly south of strongsville (brunswick), almost on the border. the sad part is that i know some of the people in that video that were, essentially, calling obama a terrorist.i'm not currently living there, as i'm pursuing interests abroad (recent college grad), but my family still lives in the same house. my family and i were discussing the same matter of "what if obama wins? how will these people react? how will they treat the people they know to be democrats?" you may think this line of questioning is ignorant, but you probably don't understand the way these people think (in ways that i, literally, do).if there's any one thing i want, it's for people to accept this victory. obama has to prove himself, and if he doesn't do his job to the best of his ability, then i understand if people begin to dislike him. to abhor him prior to even winning, however, is something that i cannot understand.let's see what happens. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:01:24 GMT+1 Cassandra 194 "This is the sort of "logic" that cannot be grasped. Absolutely unbelievable."You seem confused and peeved. Why not find some friends to commiserate with instead of trying to rain on the parade of an international celebration of relief and hope.The road won't be a smooth one, but there are possibilities. I've enjoyed getting to "know" and appreciate the wit and wisdom of many different people during the last says of this election.It's nice to know that people reading this blog now have a better (if sometimes horrified) understanding of the divisions facing the people in the U.S.It's even nicer to know things have worked out in a way that gives us a chance to regain our peace, prosperity, and maybe eventually some international respect and trust.Well the 51% of us that aren't total [fill in scatalogical insult of your choice] anyway.Goodnight and good luck. Wed 05 Nov 2008 06:01:23 GMT+1 Andrew_J2008 Now we got the technicalities over with and less than 1/3rd the US population actually voting, perhaps we can begin to know what the heir apparent community organizer (aka professional presidential candidate) has been hiding for 2 yrs???To paraphrase Michelle the Princess apparent, now can she "be proud of the country?" Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:57:53 GMT+1 obamafan Justin, I am surprised at your response when asked what will be the impact of Obama getting into the "house behind you"? by your colleague. For the life of me I cant understand why, as you say, would a beautiful elegant and charming lady like Michelle Obama and two fantastic kids of the Obamas in the White House be cause for concern in the way Americans see themselves as. I think this is a very narrow and misleading view on your part. In my opinion you should offer your viewers an apology. It seems somewhat derogotory to the Obama family and totally unjustified given that American themselves have shown wholeheartedly that they embrace the Obama "package"? Perhaps your view reflects a British view, do enlighten, I am baffled. Perhaps Matt Frei would have handled the question better? Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:57:45 GMT+1 TimothyR444 festerson:Obama to take orders from Pelosi? What kind of republican crack is that? What gave you the idea that a President would be led around by members of the hill or of his staff....oh wait nevermind. I know exactly where you got that idea from. Well rest assured, Obama is no Bush. *chuckle*Looks like I struck a nerve...Actually I am not a Bush follower.I am an independent voter. It is a difficult concept to grasp, I know, but I do not allow ANYONE, of either party, to tell me what to think.As for Pelosi: you're kidding yourself, pal. Obama is an intelligent, passive man who has none of the steel of Pelosi. She will run things. Sorry - that's the truth. Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:56:26 GMT+1 David Cunard #195.Wil_Ng: "OBAMA won. However, by a small majority in popular votes."We really won't know that for several more hours or possibly days; the results have been largely projections and, for example, the California votes have not been tabulated, the polls closed less than two hours ago. The final tally will of course be interesting.One thing that was notable between the supporters of both candidates, when McCain gave his concession speech and mentioned Mr Obama, Republicans in Arizona booed. When Mr Obama mentioned Mr McCain, Democrats applauded. There's something to be learnt from that. Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:55:37 GMT+1 pandorasfox Although Obama gave me chills - my buddy said it best when he said he was an African American JFK - I can't help but feel cautious. How he is going to run his presidency is always up in the air. However, what does give me faith is his ultimately positive message of hope - his powers of inspiration will make it that much easier, if he does prove an effective Commander In Chief, to make things happen. On another note, its nice to have a win-win situation with the McCain vs Obama election. A welcome change from Bush vs Kerry... Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:53:59 GMT+1 british-ish Only four years to the next one!Bye-bye.(And don't forget to be nice to squirrels.) Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:53:28 GMT+1 ladynorth1 I firmly believe that Sen.McCain when he chose Ms Palin to be his running mate, deliberately set himself up to fail. Surely her faults were well known by the time she came to his attention. To bow out as gracefully as he did from a very hard fought campaign speaks volumes of an erudite and brave man and one not lacking in strategic intelligence.I am relieved that Sen. Obama is now President Elect. As a Canadian I am very very tired of being looked upon as either a harbourer of terroists or the 51st State.I would dearly love to sit down with President Obama and discuss our cross border issues. Perhaps someone will.I live in hope. Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:52:52 GMT+1 timohio re. 152. NETCRUSHER :"Thank you OHIO"Well, Ohio appreciates your support :-) Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:52:02 GMT+1 british-ish Timothy R444:It's pretty well been proven tonight you, jcp, DMT, MagicK and MaII are in a minority, which I must say is a relief.Word of advice: I'd be careful about commenting on an Iranian or Russian broadcast blog during their next elections, though.If you were to display the same attitudes (not that edifying either, really) to them as you have to us, heaven knows what might happen. Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:51:36 GMT+1 Cameron Hehehehe.....PRESIDENT OBAMA. Excellent work America, just glad to see that people like TimothyR444 & BienvenueEnLouisiana are vastly out numbered.I hope you enjoy the new left USA.America may even regain some of the respect the rest of the world had before the disaster that was Bush and Co.Sweet sweet victory over the bible bashing gun totin gay hatin war lovin rednecks that were bringing the country downGod bless America, and the rest of the wrold too.Hehehehehe Timothy Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:45:19 GMT+1 Stephen Derry 205 TimothyI'm not defending ACORN out of political correctness, I'm defending them because not only are they not doing anything wrong, they are doing something that any objective believer in democracy can see is right - enfranchising people.Get this straight, conservatives hate ACORN because they believe they are partisan, and they believe they are partisan because they operate mainly in poor urban areas, and the majority of voters they register in poor urban areas tend to be (purely because of the demographics) people likely to vote Democrat. No doubt there are plenty of evangelical church groups out registering the rural equivalents.Of course they can't object to something that is legal and advances the cause of democracy, so they cry "fraud" at every opportunity. Even when (and I've tried explaining this at least seven times now) ACORN are the victims of the fraud they are referring to. They just want to associate the word "ACORN" with the word "fraud" as frequently as they can, and it gets pretty tiresome. It's the laziest form of smearing.There is never and has never been any evidence of electoral fraud attributed to ACORN that has reached, never mind been thrown out of, court. This is one of the great conservative urban myths, and really needs to be exploded once and for all. Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:44:23 GMT+1 aproposofwhat Two very gracious speeches - I almost believe there is hope, but wait to see.Go USA! Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:40:43 GMT+1 timohio Yahooooo! Okay, now the real work starts.The most gracious concession speech by McCain I have ever heard. The most uplifting victory speech by Obama I have ever heard. Maybe there really is hope. Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:40:31 GMT+1 BlueFollower If he can go two terms without being assassinated, I think I can start loving my country again. Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:40:23 GMT+1 roblengyel President Elect Obama's election winning speech was a very disappointing speech for the world but an essential speech for an inward looking and demoralised America.There was no mention of climate change as an issue at all - only the worldwide financial crisis as an important international agenda item. This only reinforces the view that America is still largely a backward participant in global issues.The Yanks needed change and he will be a great catalyst for change in their country.However, we are still 2 or 3 generations away from seeing an American leader who we can rightly call a true citizen of the world.We need a American leader who will be an important catalyst for the biggest problem facing our planet - climate change.Barack old mate, I hope I am wrong but your speech scares me mate - it makes you sound like another inward looking American leader who cares nothing about the rest of us and we have had enough world leaders who always sprout nationalism and never consider globalism. Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:40:06 GMT+1 festerson @TimothyR444,Obama to take orders from Pelosi? What kind of republican crack is that? What gave you the idea that a President would be led around by members of the hill or of his staff....oh wait nevermind. I know exactly where you got that idea from. Well rest assured, Obama is no Bush. Yes, he votes with democrats over 90% of the time, but he's reached across the aisle on a number of occasions as well. He helped to hand Reid a fairly embarrassing defeat by working with one of the more conservative members of the Senate. He also broke ranks when he supported the extension of FISA. Just two examples of his willingness to compromise and/or buck his party's wishes. Please provide counter examples or stop spreading the Faux News. Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:39:09 GMT+1 ladycm This is a total win for America. Stop it with the negative comments about Obama. Accept it. Do any of you honestly think we could get any worse off than we are now? Really? There is no way. All we have right now is to be able to believe in what Obama is saying. Only time will tell if he will deliver. Try to be an optimist. We have gone through the biggest expansion of government in the last 8 years along with record spending. Talk about socialism. Even thought it's really not because, none of this expansion and spending ever worked for the majority of the middle class in this country. Shut up and accept the fact Barack won just like we had to choke down the fact that George Bush won in 2004. We got through it, even though it literally ruined many people financially. Then he turned around and bailed out banks with 700 million dollars of OUR money, which my generation will be paying for. The republicans have made a gamble with future generations and lost. This is America, we can get through anything. If you want to be heard, cast your vote for someone else in 2012. Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:38:22 GMT+1 paul939 Hey TimothyR444, give it a break. YOu don't have to go attacking everybody who hopes for some change from the current administration. So cool down. Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:37:03 GMT+1 TimothyR444 Justin, old fellow:There's a place in the world for people who are white and elderly as well - even *gasp* people who are NOT left wing.Just a thought as you go your politically correct way... Wed 05 Nov 2008 05:34:48 GMT+1