Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html en-gb 30 Tue 30 Jun 2015 03:29:51 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html dennisjunior1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=99#comment199 I have to agreed with you, that Palin would have been a great to the Thatcher years in the United Kingdom... Thu 25 Dec 2008 04:40:40 GMT+1 DesktopCynic http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=99#comment198 No, definitely not a new Thatcher. If you recall Thatcher had a science degree (Industrial Chemistry I think or something similar) and a real appreciation of science, engineering and technology. I am fairly sure she would have laughed at the very thought of creationism. And never in a million years would she have claimed to know foreign policy because she could 'see Russia." What a joke. I can see stars at night. Am I an astrophysicist?I disliked Thatcher at the time for her politics but I never doubted her ability or her intellect. And she had done her time at ministerial level for several years, at a high level of national government, so she knew about that too.Palin is one of those people who regards intellect as some kind of character defect.When did 'intellectual' become such a dirty word in America? This dumbing down is frightening. No wonder we have to import 70,000 highly qualified people a year on H1B visas to run our industry, because we can't produce the scientists we need ourselves. We have elevated mediocrity to an absurd level. Mon 15 Sep 2008 20:54:55 GMT+1 souzanir http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=98#comment197 ronaine,Can agree more on your comment. Palin is a natural player.She'll do well. Mon 15 Sep 2008 03:58:46 GMT+1 pathmajor http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=98#comment196 I never liked Thatcher, but I respected her intelligence and her determination. Her views were rational even if you disagreed with them. Justin's comparison is as superficial as it gets. Palin is simply another clueless, nutcase fundamentalist and represents a choice by McCain that is both dangerous and cynical. How can such a Presidential candidate be trusted by the American electorate after the painful lessons of the Bush years? By the way, has anyone read the exposure of Palin by the New York Times? Mon 15 Sep 2008 00:25:23 GMT+1 arnold_carton http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=97#comment195 Britain, elected a woman leader roughly 20 years ago. She was a tough female politician called Margaret Thatcher and as she fought the election she was viciously attacked by her opponents but like any candidate for the leadership of their country she accepted this as part of running for high office. She did not claim special treatment; she did not ask to be treated respectfully just because she was a woman.So why is John McCain making such an issue about Barrack Obama showing a lack of respect for Sarah Palin? America has an unpleasant history of overreacting when black men are perceived as being disrespectful towards white women.Is this why John McCain finds it so easy to organise a media lynching of Barrack Obama? Sat 13 Sep 2008 00:06:36 GMT+1 ApratimMukherjee http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=97#comment194 Margaret Thatcher had been into power.She had ruled Britain as a disciplined Prime Minister.Sarah Palin is not even in power as far as world scene is concerned.We can compare both ladies if and only if Ms.Palin comes to power. Thu 11 Sep 2008 08:59:24 GMT+1 danielmilloy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=96#comment193 Sorry, could you just remind me... Who is the one running for Pres, and who is running for VP?Oh, and what is it exactly a VP does every day? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d91brDnt7Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-R5Vh5tOWk Tue 09 Sep 2008 07:19:15 GMT+1 46thparallel http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=96#comment192 The Republicans have made a Faustian bargain by nominating Sarah Palin.After the huplah about her has died down, I am quite sure she will prove as much a liability as a benefit. As more and more information comes forward about her, I am sure the gloss will come off fairly quickly. The upshot of all of this is that it will remain a very tight race, and every vote will be quite critical. Mon 08 Sep 2008 16:21:13 GMT+1 bright-eyedLondonLad http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=95#comment191 (Russell Brand MTV Awards Host)"Some people say, America is not ready to elect a black President, racists I think they call them!"Finally, somebody has spoken about the elephant in the room. It's a factor, yet it's never discussed and never acknowledged.I hope the best man wins and for me that man is Barak Obama, but do I really dare to believe that it could actually happen? Mon 08 Sep 2008 11:58:58 GMT+1 JohnAAA http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=95#comment190 The later postings by Justin Webb's blog apper to be blocked to comments - they are showing NIL comments from any source for many houts, not even commentd waiting to clear the moderators. Sun 07 Sep 2008 13:03:02 GMT+1 shrift http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=94#comment189 HmmMax@189- I see where you are coming from.You really believe that the biggest issue in this election is the left wing media bias in the US and across the world and that cannot in any way compete with the small voice of America's impartial radio analysis, brave beacons in a hostile and well armed world of left wing commie pinko fags. The likes of Rush(where's my next fix coming from) Limbo, yes it is true Max those the daily wail of those small patriots are as nothing compared to the clanging liberal cry in the media. Sun 07 Sep 2008 12:40:13 GMT+1 MaxSceptic http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=94#comment188 Because, HickorySmoke @188, The Hilary-supporting feminist left are the most vocal in their condemnation of Palin.As for Bill's 'canoodling hobby': with Hilary at home can you blame him? (Well, apart from appalling taste even in his ex-curricular activities...)Why bring it up now? For the fun of it. Sun 07 Sep 2008 10:21:53 GMT+1 shrift http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=93#comment187 Golly jeez Max-Is that supposed to mean anything?Hilary isn't running for anything right now so why bring it up? But as you did bring it up perhaps you have strong feelings about her?I don't think she can have spent so much time on Bill's coat-tails as she might have stumbled in on something of his canoodling hobby dontcha think? Sat 06 Sep 2008 22:15:01 GMT+1 MaxSceptic http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=93#comment186 Ironically, unlike Thatcher and Palin, the current idol of the feminist left (one Hilary Clinton) reached her position on the coattails of her husband. Sat 06 Sep 2008 21:17:56 GMT+1 shrift http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=92#comment185 I think we all misheard what they were chanting that night.Once you erase all the static of the clapping and the oil-drilling and God's snoring then you can plainly make-out, I heard it on Lush Rimbo, you can hear-"He's not gay, He's not Gay, He's not gay!"Now why they would feel the need to say such a thing in a free country I don't know but maybe they were just trying to play to the social conservatives........ Sat 06 Sep 2008 20:38:50 GMT+1 shrift http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=92#comment184 All I'm saying here is Dick Cheney talked about putting lipstick on a pig at the last election.Now Palin, and I'm not saying she's a source of bacon, but she just as good said she was a pit bull with lipstick.What is it with republicans and animal loving? I think it could transgress biblical codes, indeed it's a bit Babylonian- as in "the the world's going to satan"-Babylonian.Furthermore- aren't pit bulls those dogs that savage little children?Is that who we want for VP?Indeed don't they put those animals down for everyone's sake?Can I get a witness! Sat 06 Sep 2008 19:52:14 GMT+1 ptiger62 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=91#comment183 Is it just me or has she not made her son who is going to Iraq a target. She told them when he was going to deploy, his unit and they showed him on the screen. She as good as put a bullseye on his back, wouldn't that be a coup for Al Qaeda, what sort of judgement is that for someone who is going to be a heartbeat from the most powerful position in the world. No Mrs Thatcher she! She may be happy to put her son at risk but she may get the power to put mine at risk as well, and the fact they are ow hiding her away so that the press can't ask her any questions what are they afraid? Sat 06 Sep 2008 18:12:05 GMT+1 allmymarbles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=91#comment182 179, Silbia.Your description of female candidates sounds just like male candidates. Are you proposing a higher standard for women? Are there any politicians who don't lie? Sat 06 Sep 2008 16:25:19 GMT+1 stewkablooie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=90#comment181 Guys..., just read 1984 and draw your own conclusion to the current situation....And, for anyone who is creationalist or evolutionist, science and theoligy CAN support each other - this commentator believes that the truth to a supreme being or whatever, is through the pursuit of science and philosophy as well as understanding spirituality and that if there is a "divine path", it's that we are capable of being guardians of this world. We are surely still naive yet as a species, and we should be eager to learn...not hate. The problem with Palin is her interpretation of "God"............ there should be no "us" and "them". When did good and evil become Christian and Muslim...? Your economy is not messed up because two planes hit the twin towers...... Sat 06 Sep 2008 16:18:44 GMT+1 Martijn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=90#comment180 "I also believe the world outside america is a dangerous place" Not half as dangerouys as America itself tho, with all those nutters going around shooting everybody in sight. Somehow that doesn't happen over here. Seriously, this ist he problem with republican voters. They have been told the world outside America is a dangerous place for one reason only: To keep the social and economic status quo in America in place. For a European the American political spectrum is bewildering. Americans have the choice between right-wing (the Democrats) and ludicrously righ-wing (the Republicans). It is by fear of the outside world that America doesn't have a socialist movement, that its unions are in the hands of organized crime. To keep socialism from its own soil, America has waged one unjust war after another, has toppled deomocratically elected governments, has allowed and participated in the murder and torture of countless people all over the world. In the end you reap what you sow, so I don't see how Americans can be surprised or amazed at their present bad press. Sat 06 Sep 2008 14:38:47 GMT+1 Martijn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=89#comment179 Comparing Palin to Thatcher is implying that Palin will one day lead both her party and her country. God (yes, Him, Sarah) forbid. At least mrs Thatcher got where she was on her own accomplishments. Mrs Palin so far is just a figurehead who has proved adept at reading a speech that was written for her by a cynic like Karl Rove who just wants to milk poor, under-educated, so-called christians for their votes. Big deal for a former tv presenter. Anybody who still believes any republcan candidate is anything but a figurehead for short-term corporate interests, has to be a complete fool. Looking at the polls, that seems to be a frighteningly large part of the US population. Sat 06 Sep 2008 14:18:05 GMT+1 Sylbia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=89#comment178 The problem with women politician in the US is they lie, get caught in the lie, and portray themselves as untrustworthy. Any woman planning to be a US President need to start setting standards - respectable standards. Sat 06 Sep 2008 14:15:14 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=88#comment177 Not Margaret Thatcher. More like Annie Oakley. Ready.....Aim.....Vote! Sat 06 Sep 2008 12:32:37 GMT+1 pigspeak http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=88#comment176 Margaret Thatcher? Do you remember Spiro Agnew? Sarah Palin is is Spiro Agnew, Jerry Fallwell and Satan all-in-one, wrapped in a female body. Mere mortals tremble in fear while hypocrites dance with joy. Sat 06 Sep 2008 05:53:32 GMT+1 JPPeterson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=87#comment175 Sarah Palin was on Public Radio here in the US this afternoon (Thursday Sept. 5). Recordings of her speaking in several pentacostal churches were included. She sees the current situation in Iraq and Afganistan as a holy war. She swayed my vote. I made my first contribution to Barack Obama. Sat 06 Sep 2008 02:25:18 GMT+1 Anna-liza http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=87#comment174 This post has been Removed Fri 05 Sep 2008 22:22:24 GMT+1 stewkablooie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=86#comment173 Just to be clear, I remember the Margaret Thatcher era and she did some things at a certain time in history that were crucial to Britain (breaking of the unions, de-nationalisation, Falklands war, her part in the demise of the Soviet Union, etc) that were all were based on a historical understanding/retrospective viewpoint of geopolitics - she was well educated and well advised - I put her in the "Churchill bracket" - right or wrong.Palin (or anyone else who rises to the esteemed heights of American politics) does through "acceptance" by a range of lobbyist groups and concerned "entities" be it, “Party Contributors” or religiously and racially (and media) motivated citizens – a well spoken and presented person who says other peoples words has absolutely no substance or resonance. I’m sad for America and the “free” world. Where are we going….? Fri 05 Sep 2008 14:29:12 GMT+1 SamTyler1969 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=86#comment172 Marby, Arizona,I don't think you are any crazier than John Boy. But he does worry me . . . .Frightened Sam Fri 05 Sep 2008 13:44:52 GMT+1 justcorbly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=85#comment171 #168 (realfrigid):If you're lookng for scandal that actually involved a candidate, Google "Keating Five".If the GOP is so interested in integrity, why doesn't it talk abouot that? Fri 05 Sep 2008 12:32:57 GMT+1 RealFrigid http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=85#comment170 #107, newbriton :I couldn't agree more. On every other channel , every time they break away from live coverage its to Democratic pundits and talking heads that spin things negatively. Sometimes they will have a Republican speak, as long as that person is an opponent of McCain.PBS and the BBC are journalists. They ask leading questions, but at least they don't offer their own opinions. Fri 05 Sep 2008 09:23:54 GMT+1 stewkablooie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=84#comment169 Is bk9061 for real? Hope not.....As for Palin - time will tell who she is indeed like, whether it be Margaret Thatcher or Teri Hatcher! Fri 05 Sep 2008 09:12:36 GMT+1 MagicKirin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=84#comment168 To compare the two is ridicoulous.Thatcher is one of the two great PM's of the last century. Fri 05 Sep 2008 09:10:41 GMT+1 RealFrigid http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=83#comment167 "...all over decent community-organizing volunteers..."Try googling "ACORN voter fraud"... Fri 05 Sep 2008 08:59:27 GMT+1 Grrrlie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=83#comment166 #164: the "scandals" so far re: Sarah Palin are insufficient: it's the norm to have a pregnant teenage daughter in the USA now, especially when access to birth control and/or abortion services is not allowed for the teenager daughter in question. As to "Troopergate," too many folks dislike highway troopers to really care much; and the related ethics hearing will be packed by Sarah Palin's appointees last I heard. No - the scandal I would be hoping for would have to be shocking in the extreme, to a USA audience. "Cross fingers" at anything that shows up this Beauty-Queen-from-Hell for the hypocritical "bleep" that she truly is! Fri 05 Sep 2008 05:12:52 GMT+1 allmymarbles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=82#comment165 161. Bethpa.Maybe bk9061 is staphylococccus aureus in religious mode. Fri 05 Sep 2008 05:07:39 GMT+1 allmymarbles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=82#comment164 162. Aqua.If McCain and his sidekick get in it helps to be crazy. Don't knock it. Fri 05 Sep 2008 05:06:00 GMT+1 allmymarbles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=81#comment163 163, Grrr.There already was a super scandal and that went away and soon! Maybe another super scandal would go away and soon. Fri 05 Sep 2008 04:57:18 GMT+1 Grrrlie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=81#comment162 Sarah Palin? No, I prefer Michael Palin - and I'm waiting for him to appear and do a bit - preferably in costume as a elderly lady in an odd hat - describing Sarah Palin as coming from a discredited and reviled branch of the Palin family.... I surely need a laugh after hearing Sarah Palin spew vomitous vitriol all over decent community-organizing volunteers and well-educated people, etc., ad infinitum. She is a Dark Ages demagogue spreading witch-hunts, pain and death by that by further demonizing pitbulls [with or without lipstick], aerial gunning-down wolves, wiping out polar bears and caribou - or joining in the 'Crusade' to "bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran." May a super-scandal please take her away and soon!! Fri 05 Sep 2008 04:44:48 GMT+1 aquarizonagal http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=80#comment161 #160AllmymarblesYou and Samtyler1969 are both beginning to scare me. I know my brain is odd and old but I have been thinking that if McCain was president, with a grip on Alaska, he could have a staging point for an invasion of Russia. Please tell me that I am completely ready for the gaga farm.This is for MsMarbles and Samtyler. I know most of the rest of you think I am old and crazy. Fri 05 Sep 2008 04:30:39 GMT+1 bethpa http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=80#comment160 allmymarblesbk9061 is making jokes..click on the name to see the postsIts telling that the humor is hard to tell from actual views.but this must be a joke?: "I am a religious nut, I loves guns, believe that modern science is deluding itself when it preaches evolution and global warming and all of its supporters including, Sir Isaac Newton, Darwin, Einstien, Marie Currie, Galilio, even Plato have a liberal agenda and are sexist.So this leads me to conclude that Mccain and Palin are perfct choice to having their fingers on that red button. USA! USA! USA!"Its got to be joke ? right? right?Please tell me its a joke? Fri 05 Sep 2008 03:48:20 GMT+1 allmymarbles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=79#comment159 158, Aqua.Unfortunately I understand Sam's post (152). Why are you scaring me, Sam? Fri 05 Sep 2008 03:43:06 GMT+1 allmymarbles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=79#comment158 131, Sam.I see this as McCain failing. He was always temperamental, but now he seems to be worse. And then there was the strange thing he said about her, "We are soul mates. I love her." That was creepy, given the circumstances. He wasn't exactly choosing a lover, or did his hormones think he was? Fri 05 Sep 2008 03:30:15 GMT+1 aquarizonagal http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=78#comment157 #152Samtyler1969I do not understand your post. Would you please explain? Fri 05 Sep 2008 03:19:15 GMT+1 allmymarbles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=78#comment156 121, Mrs.And what American would vote for a soccer mom, or any kind of sports mom? I pulled my daugher out of competitive swimming. The mothers were animals. Fri 05 Sep 2008 03:18:22 GMT+1 allmymarbles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=77#comment155 115, bk.I have news for you. I don't want Palin to save my soul, or you either, for that matter. You should both stick to your knitting (or creationism, whatever).I am curious, though as to where you got such a colossal ego. Fri 05 Sep 2008 03:15:01 GMT+1 Republicangarbage http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=77#comment154 Please, Sarah Palin is no Margaret Thatcher. Sarah Palin spews the same garbage and deception that we have had for the last eight years. I would hope that since some Americans seem to be so delusion, that the Brits do not fall in line with this. The entire world should be frightened to have these people in office. Fri 05 Sep 2008 03:13:10 GMT+1 ksv123 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=76#comment153 That is kind of inapt comparision. I guess Thatcher was not just catapulted into national limelight just in a "day". She was an MP before she became a PM. Second, Thatcher brought in a level of dignity and sophistication (that hardcode republicans would call - elitist)to governance. Lastly - she always acted with class and had no scandals before contesting for MP. Fri 05 Sep 2008 03:00:49 GMT+1 xpat73 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=76#comment152 Well the U.S. Naval Academy is very hard to get into, as a previous poster mentioned.But it's not as hard when your father and grandfather were both four star admirals in the United States Navy. His class rank of 894 out of 899 probably indicates that he was underserving of admission, and simply got in because his family pulled some strings. Fri 05 Sep 2008 03:00:19 GMT+1 SamTyler1969 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=75#comment151 #151Because, in business speak, he is 'Reading the slides'. This is awful, I coach college kids who deliver better than this. Oh God, Vietnam again. Disappointed Sam Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:55:57 GMT+1 aquarizonagal http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=75#comment150 Why can not either of these two Republican wannabes deliver a speech without sounding sarcastic? Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:43:50 GMT+1 aquarizonagal http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=74#comment149 EdinglehartGreen? What can you expect when the 'Fossil' has to follow 'Ms Fuel.' He probably is bilious! Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:30:05 GMT+1 SamTyler1969 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=74#comment148 When McCain expresses concern about people struggling to make do why do these guys chant 'U S A U S A'. I don't get it. Is struggling to eat the American way?Sick Sam Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:26:02 GMT+1 aquarizonagal http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=73#comment147 #135EdinglehartI am so on board with this! I am especially encouraging my Latino neighbors and friends to register and vote because they have been so badly profiled and targeted by our current mean-spirited leaders. Many of these very good people have been here more than 100 years before my own parents immigrated but have never been accepted as citizens. Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:19:27 GMT+1 A Hoser http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=73#comment146 I don't agree with her politics either. She says the jury is still out on global warming but all she has to do is visit the glacier that is less than 15 miles from the Governor's mansion in Juneau. But she's hardly in Juneau anyways, so I guess to her, it's "if I don't see it, it isn't happening." Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:18:36 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=72#comment145 I don't believe it!The Green Screen is back!Will they ever learn? Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:17:52 GMT+1 justcorbly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=72#comment144 #139 (bethpa):The greater danger, of course, is that Palin believes it to be her religious duty to expedite these "end times," presumably nuclear war in the Middle East.I think that's a valid concern about any politician who holds such beliefs. Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:11:48 GMT+1 OldSouth http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=71#comment143 Much too early to say, but hope springs eternal. Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:09:49 GMT+1 bethpa http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=71#comment142 Why the media should apologize“No matter how cynical I get, it’s just never enough to keep up.” Lilly Tomlin quote Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:06:02 GMT+1 aquarizonagal http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=70#comment141 The amiable response of Barack Obama and Joe Biden to the shrill and strident attacks of the Republicans is just another example that these Democrats are not willing to be drawn into politics as usual. Obama and Biden have been focusing on the issues. This is something that the Republican dinosaurs just do not seem to understand. It really IS all about the economy, the war, energy policy, environment, foreign relations, national debt etc.It is a new century! We can keep on the same old track or try a more enlightened approach to our current problems. I can not wait to here what the 'Fossil' has to add to 'Ms Fuel' when McCain speaks tonight. Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:03:05 GMT+1 justcorbly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=70#comment140 #126 (bethpa):No need for apologies, Beth. Here's a link to another polling site with different numbers:538.com Fri 05 Sep 2008 02:01:47 GMT+1 babawaya http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=69#comment139 McCain's campaign has been making strategic errors day after day.Whoever scheduled their convention ( the reublicans did ) was not smart. McCain's coupled the error by scheduling him to speak the same night NFL starts off their season. I wonder how many people will watch McCain's speech.Some of these faults might be minor but not neglible. They say a lot about them. What makes us believe they would run the country any better?I don't think I want to take a chance. Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:59:15 GMT+1 bethpa http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=69#comment138 #131 Sam If Palin believes in the rapture that is frightening.. she will welcome the end timesI wonder if some reporter will have the courage to ask Palin how her religious beliefs will influence her decisions politically and ask her about the end times. Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:47:14 GMT+1 SamTyler1969 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=68#comment137 #88Who cares? It isn't being counted as a key swing state this time and frankly if they elect McCain Palin then Floridians will be the owners of the 27th spit in the Union, population 3 dogs and a coconut tree by 2020.Drowning Sam. Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:43:45 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=68#comment136 Toy Story - the plastic doll speaksYUK! Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:41:49 GMT+1 shrift http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=67#comment135 hurry up mister moderator I'm falling aslee....... Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:38:19 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=67#comment134 I've now watched and listened. Palin delivered the speech almost competently, but it never sounded like her words, and it was mostly rubbish attempts at sound bytes, many of which were downright fallacies.Too bad, and embarrassing to those of us ex-pats who still care.In sadness,edDeadlines are approaching for Voter Registration...make sure you are registered and pass this around to friends and family:REGISTER TO VOTE: http://www.declareyourself.com/IF YOU ARE LIVING ABROAD and need to register: https://www.overseasvotefoundation.org/overseas/home.htm Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:37:08 GMT+1 shrift http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=66#comment133 mrsvooj- you've reminded me of Dick Cheney at the last election delivering that telling cuss about senator John Kerry and his attempt at shootin'and fishin' which was in the negative about lipstick on anything with four legs or what he really said was along the lines of -we have a sayin' where I come from-ugh-"you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." -ughI do hope some of those commies on the radio start repeating the lipstick on the pig thing just to rile 'em up. I mean it's got four legs, and anyway what strange things are all these republicans doing out in the woods putting lipstick on four legged animals?Is this a social conservative thing? Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:36:18 GMT+1 SamTyler1969 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=66#comment132 #117Thanks Ed,Thats some serious statistical analysis!Sam Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:34:58 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=65#comment131 Corbly,No. ;-)Links tutorialPeace ed Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:33:33 GMT+1 SamTyler1969 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=65#comment130 #123I have to take you to task. Bush is an easily manipulated individual being played by Cheney et al, a wiley right winger with other wiley right wingers who are mostly predictable. Who didn't see Iraq coming when they were elected? I recall sitting there in 2000 as the votes came in and saying 'There is going to be a war in Iraq'.McCain is a very old man with health issues who has a hair trigger temper and would trust us to allow Palin to take over if he falls ill. While I dislike Cheney, I don't think he would do anything totally idiotic. Mean, uncharitable, self centered, yes. But idiotic, no.Palin. I get scared.Worried Sam. Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:25:37 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=64#comment129 Rove being balanced;-)ed Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:24:11 GMT+1 fardated http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=64#comment128 I'm sorry Justin, but I am losing respect for you fast and you're showing your stripes. Comparing Palin to Thatcher is like comparing a pussy cat to a lion. Palin will get crushed by Biden. Doesn't mean Obama will win though. Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:20:27 GMT+1 shrift http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=63#comment127 Hey Californian- wots all this talk of fancy verbiage? is it really true that you don't know Mary Poppins? "when stone age men were chatting merely grunting would suffice."I'm not sure how many sylly-bubbles there are in ugh and ugggghh do you know? Should we grunt when we want to show we're gun-totin'?As in "ugh, town ain't big enough for the both of us ugh, I'm so glad I can shoot you as my right to bare my arms is done bin writ ugh in the paper of the founding fathers." Cos like they knew we'd develop into a nation so big that if government got out of hand a handful of irregulars with muskets could put the government right. Right!? What fantasy is it that the gun nutters inhabit? Joking aside- I think McCain knew he was a goner and so he picked a mouthy fighter who can deliver a some good lines of attack. The only problem is that their lot have been in power for so long and are so up to the wazoo in the failure that it just comes across as flippant- ooh sorry too much verbs- I mean she seems silly. Is that verbiage adequately trimmed for ya? Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:18:05 GMT+1 gtfc2007 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=63#comment126 This post has been Removed Fri 05 Sep 2008 01:05:55 GMT+1 bethpa http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=62#comment125 #99 justcorblyI apologize for being crabby and lazy...if I had paid attention to Ed I would be using html and you could just click on the links. Fri 05 Sep 2008 00:15:05 GMT+1 justcorbly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=62#comment124 For what it's worth, Georgian GOP Congressman today used the classic racist slur "uppity" to describe the Obama's.It wasn't misheard. Asked to confirm what he aid, he used the slur a second time. The GOP will do nothing about this. But they will whine because people are Googling Palin and asking questions.If these people represent you, then you are swine. Fri 05 Sep 2008 00:12:14 GMT+1 babawaya http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=61#comment123 Well, Justin has the right to air his opinion and we can blog on in support or make our case against. It defeats me why some people cannot stand a descending opinion. That is why many dictators in the world fight and kill opposition members.Back to my point. It is not fair to compare Palin with Thatcher. The truth is Thatcher worked for every accomplishment she got. Palin on the other hand has been hand picked to glory by McCain. If it was not for McCain we would never have known her. Why Palin? It was an easy pick for McCain. He needed a VP pick that would accomplish two things: fire up the republican base and lure disgruntled Hillary's supporters and to accomplish this he gave an easy home work to his aides; to go through the list of all 50 governors and come up with a woman and the most conservative one, and that spells out Palin. Elementary kid with internet access could have easily pulled it off. After watching how fired-up democrats were in their convention McCain had to do something to fire-up the republicans. Prior to Palin, Republican core constituency was cold on McCain for obvious reasons; they remembered John McCain of 2004 who could not see eye-to-eye with George Bush on their core issues. I can make a case that the current excitement will soon cool off once another obvious reality hits them - Palin is not running for Presidency. She is just a VP nominee. It was a gamble and a big one. Soon the poll will show that very few or none of Hillary supporters were moved. Reason being the only thing Sarah Palin and Hillary have in common is gender. In almost every other aspect they are as far as East is to West. So in conclusion Sarah Palin ignited the republicans who would have either way voted for McCain in joy or sorrow. Fri 05 Sep 2008 00:11:14 GMT+1 mrsvooj http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=61#comment122 It is frustrating to live in a 2-party system, when the platforms are at odds with each other........a polarizing and difficult decision in some ways.....but either one is better than Bush.. Fri 05 Sep 2008 00:11:09 GMT+1 SanYing http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=60#comment121 Palin is America's Thatcher!!??Where has Justin Webb's mind gone? Fri 05 Sep 2008 00:06:32 GMT+1 mrsvooj http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=60#comment120 What american would vote for a "pit bull dog wearing lipstick?" Not I! Fri 05 Sep 2008 00:03:58 GMT+1 justcorbly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=59#comment119 #117 (ed iglehart):They weren't activated in Beth's posts.But, then, that's not what prompted that remark, is it? Fri 05 Sep 2008 00:02:07 GMT+1 SaintDominick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=59#comment118 Ref 115"i am covinced Palin will save countless American souls". I have no doubt that she, and her mentor, will also champion many crusades, including surges, throughout the Middle East to rid the sacred sites of troublesome infidels and pave the way for the Second Coming. Deadlines will not be needed considering the 100 year scope of the mission.As a Democrat, it hurts to admit this, but I love the hats the Republican delegates wear at their conventions. Thu 04 Sep 2008 23:53:45 GMT+1 MarcusAureliusII http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=58#comment117 Not again. Not another one of BBC's screwball analogies. America as Rome, Palin as Thatcher. No not at all. You don't have a clue. Thu 04 Sep 2008 23:48:59 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=58#comment116 BethPa & all,For interesting data analysis, try thisCorbly, Sorry, "This blog doesn't seem to activate links in comments."Doesn't it?;-)#ed Thu 04 Sep 2008 23:45:37 GMT+1 David Cunard http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=57#comment115 #105.voxclamantisinsonoma: "The comparison of Palin to Thatcher overlooks the relative lack of position of the Vice-President. Palin will not enjoy the same power . . . " But given John McCain's age and medical history, she may well do so, in spades. That's what scares - and offends - may people. Thu 04 Sep 2008 23:40:35 GMT+1 bk9061 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=57#comment114 Since the time God created us 6000 years ago, we have been full of sin, unbelievers will go to hell,i am covinced Palin will save countless American souls. Thu 04 Sep 2008 23:33:08 GMT+1 bk9061 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=56#comment113 Also when i mention sexist that does not mean that i think the womans place is not at home.I also believe the world outside america is a dangerous place, and that means if we are to fight terrorists, be should degrade our own laws in fighting them and believe we should not loose wars at any cost, no matter how many lives are lost, and that tally also includes lower to middle class american. Yeah lets get into a fight with the russians!!!Vote Mccain/palin Thu 04 Sep 2008 23:25:40 GMT+1 AmericanfromNW http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=56#comment112 I'm trying to understand. Is the Californian insulting UK liberals? I find the BBC dialogs interesting especially since they are generally of diverse views. Thu 04 Sep 2008 23:12:44 GMT+1 bk9061 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=55#comment111 I am a religious nut, I loves guns, believe that modern science is deluding itself when it preaches evolution and global warming and all of its supporters including, Sir Isaac Newton, Darwin, Einstien, Marie Currie, Galilio, even Plato have a liberal agenda and are sexist. So this leads me to conclude that Mccain and Palin are perfct choice to having their fingers on that red button. USA! USA! USA! Thu 04 Sep 2008 23:11:32 GMT+1 Candace9839 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=55#comment110 The thought of which may have helped the Obama campaign raise $8M after her speech.Handbags flew open Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:57:23 GMT+1 pinkfootedwoman http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=54#comment109 I think Jon Snow summed it up best on his visit to Palin's home town when he said it was like Twin Peaks. Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:56:48 GMT+1 anthonyinhove http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=54#comment108 Justin, one similarity between Thatcher and Palin is that they both came along with a very plain-speaking style and with certainty in their beliefs, at a time when the sitting government was weak and generally seen to have failed to take the country in the right direction.The difference between their proposals for reform is that Thatcher at least came from a party other than that in power and had a political philosophy quite different to that which had failed. Attractive though Palin's personality and beliefs may be to the Republican base, it is her own party that has got the USA into a mess and those who are responsible for the mess have exactly the same political philosophy as she and McCain do. Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:55:21 GMT+1 boiselass http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=53#comment107 As a white, English speaking woman in Idaho, I can say that many people I know are voting for the party. At University, many are saying "no more conservatism, no more Republicans." those of us who are viewing the people and not the party, seem to be leaning away from Republican. It's going to be a close race I do believe.Mrs. Palin represents what many Americans are and believe in. What a bloody SMART move on McCain's part! I was seriously impressed.What's really scary for me is that NEITHER candidate or their running mates posess a true clear picture of what the hell Americans want any more. Whoever makes it will have to prove themselves.As for me, I'm doing what most are doing: reviewing both parties opinions on issues we feel are key. The issues that keep coming up are the same old, same old. Wish they'd wake up and SEE the real issues! Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:54:12 GMT+1 newbriton http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=53#comment106 98, MetrapolitanshireRemember this is a blog. Having lived most of my life in the UK and now a resident of California I can tell you I am horrified at the standard of news reporting, both on local and network channels. The only news program I find credible is BBC America and the only news radio I listen to is NPR. BBC reporting is just that, a report, no analysis or comment intended to color my view. However the suggestion that any talking head paid to juggle with words would have an impact on my own view I find insulting, although I agree I may be unique, as most of the electorate in this country seems too easily swayed by the most unimportant detail proffered by a neatly coiffed TV presenter. Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:32:38 GMT+1 allmymarbles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=52#comment105 86, Dominick.Although admission to an Ivy League school requires a high level of acadamic achievement, it is not grades alone that get you in since there are many more qualified applicants than places. These schools are looking for an extra something (and I don't mean a dozen extra-curricular activities). You have to figure out what that is. Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:27:43 GMT+1 voxclamantisinsonoma http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=52#comment104 The comparison of Palin to Thatcher overlooks the relative lack of position of the Vice-President. Palin will not enjoy the same power, nor have much ability to influence policy. The comparison is irrelevant.Palin's purpose, beyond gender, is to maintain the "good 'ole boy" image established by George Bush. The importance of this is magnified by atacks on Obama's "elitist" Harvard education. McCain is a graduate of the US Naval Academy, one of the most difficult institutions of higher education to which one might gain admission. It, along wth the other service academies, are the seminaries for the military elite.Palin's speech last night did not demonstrate to me any significant command of the issues involvedin this election. It fightens me no end to think that she could be a heartbeat away from the presidency. Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:24:19 GMT+1 sirspunkmeister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=51#comment103 Thank you #88, Domick. I see now why McCain's handlers would choosen this woman as their VP; to win one or two states already disenfranchised. With any luck the Republicans will loose both states, but if they take the whitehouse again at least maybe they'll put this woman someplace where she can't do any harm. Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:22:24 GMT+1 18-24washdc http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=51#comment102 It is an insult to Margaret Thatcher to compare her to this relatively uneducated, uninformed, ignorant woman who, about a year prior to her nomination, claimed not to understand what it was that a vice president does. More frighteningly, Palin recently described the war in Iraq as America's god given crusade. What happened to a seperation of church and state?McCain is the oldest first term nominee in American history; god forbid he wins and can't make it through four years. Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:19:04 GMT+1 newbriton http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=50#comment101 #83, Anonymous CalifornianIt will come as no surprise I am sure that your allegation that "Liberals" are more inclined to dismiss the opinions of those who don't agree with them is exactly the way I think of Republicans. Only this morning one self proclaimed conservative lauded the Palin choice partly because she is a life-time member of the NRA. In view of the high rate of crime in the USA that involves guns I find this attitude inane and those who adopt it nothing more than cretins. I will not tolerate such opinion and will exercise all of my persuasive power to alter it. The policies of the current Republican administration have done immeasurable harm to this country, both home and abroad. This alone precludes any tolerance for those who wish to continue them through a McCain/Palin administration. Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:16:22 GMT+1 Arthur Putey http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/09/americas_answer_to_thatcher.html?page=50#comment100 Sarah Palin, you sure as heck ain't no Margaret Thatcher.For many reasons, I'm no great fan of Thatcher. But I suspect she achieved one truly great thing: making it possible for Gorbachev to save the world from the real possibility of a nuclear catastrophe unleashed by Ronald "The Rapture" Reagan. Unlike religious fundamentalists Reagan, Dubya and Palin, Thatcher was a hard-headed realist who took heed of unpleasant facts and could draw the logical conclusions. Faith-based policies were definitely not her cup of tea.My hypothesis (and I'm sure it's not original) is that Thatcher clearly understood the dangers inherent in Reagan's extremist beliefs. And, having stared into the abyss, I'm guessing that she set out to use her unique influence to persuade Reagan to go at least some way in following Gorbachev's lead in relation to nuclear disarmament. We should never forget that Gorbachev made deep UNILATERAL cuts to the USSR's nuclear arsenal, and I think he's the single most important figure of the 20th century. Without the courage and leadership of Gorbachev, and the "honest broker" efforts of Thatcher, I doubt that I'd now be around to offer these thoughts.But had Thatcher been a religious fundamentalist who subscribed to fearful fantasies such as "The Rapture" too... Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:14:19 GMT+1