Comments for en-gb 30 Wed 27 May 2015 11:51:19 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at SusieFlood JustinBREAKING NEWS: HILLARY TO RUN AS VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE You are wide of the mark in giving any credence to the possibility of Sam Nunn being a candidate for the vice-presidency. I have just been alerted to news about Bill that points to Hillary Clinton being Obama's running mate come November. My source tells me that Bill has begun a round of interviews of female applicants for a White House internship. The vacancy has attracted keen interest from a plethora of young talent wanting to experience life inside the White House. While the interviews are going well, some of the applicants are somewhat puzzled by Bill's insistence that the successful candidate will not be allowed access to a refrigerator during her period of internship. That said, Bill is confident that he will find a young intern who will be happy to undertake the unique tasks that she is expected to perform. By the look on Bill's face it's happy days ahead for him and you can bet it won't be long before he breaks out the cigars! * * Source: The Starr Report: The Official Report of the Independent Counsel's Investigation of President Clinton Ireland Thu 26 Jun 2008 07:16:16 GMT+1 quietjimmyjimjim He shouldn't make a habit of it. Wed 25 Jun 2008 03:26:01 GMT+1 Cyril_Croydon Nunn has great qualities but is too old and too much of a Washington "insider". Not a great advert for "change".I'd like to see Obama pick Chuck Hagel, but he is more likely to go for someone like Joe Biden or Evan Bayh.Kathleen Sebelius would also be a great choice, but that might piss off the Clintons too much Tue 24 Jun 2008 22:23:51 GMT+1 turningblueandgrey Is the lukewarm Nunn response here primarily due to age, "don't ask don't tell" single issue opinions, or lack of understanding/appreciation of what he has done for decades as a quiet, avoiding the spotlight type of legislator? Still a person who would help in cabinet or key advisor roles.Richardson seems to be a good man who did very well at state level - - but his DOE tenure was marred by the Chinese spy scandal at Los Alamos. Was that an inherited problem or one that grew under his watch? Tue 24 Jun 2008 17:08:08 GMT+1 gadfly55 Nunn has none of the qualities to enhance the campaign, nor the interest to take a prominent position with potential absolute responsibility. As the summer moves to the autumn, and the battles in the states settle into trenches of opinion, Obama will decide to select someone with whom he can work well. This person will also express the intent of his Presidency and leadership of the country. Richardson will be considered carefully. Tue 24 Jun 2008 16:47:12 GMT+1 SaintDominick Sam Nunn is well qualified for a Cabinet position, but he should not be considered for the VP position as it would undermine Obama's message of change. In the opinion of this septuagenarian, our country needs new blood, new ideas, people of integrity with the stamina necessary to get out of the socio-economic malaise that is destroying our society. Our Constitutional and Civil Rights have been eroded, our fiscal situation is dire, our borrow and spend policies are ruining us, we have serious health care and education crises, our infrastructure is inadequate or collapsing, and our industrial and technical might is being moved to China in exchange for money to finance our never ending crusades. We either change soon or we are doomed! Tue 24 Jun 2008 14:46:25 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart Speaking of Coca Cola,A $28,500 (£15,000) Buffet, anyone?;-)ed Tue 24 Jun 2008 12:09:36 GMT+1 Adrian_Evitts Sam Nunn ... now there's a "Sister Superior"!Hmmm... his business interests give me a little cause for concern - Coca Cola board member! - but they could be worse ...I don't think that his policy on the armed forces necessarily makes him homophobic ... pragmatic, perhaps ...In any event, an inspired headline Justin - where do you get them?!! Tue 24 Jun 2008 11:32:04 GMT+1 floridaredhead Please, people, I beg: look up Sam Nunn and the "don't ask, don't tell" military policy.You won't like what you read. Tue 24 Jun 2008 10:06:12 GMT+1 floridaredhead Oh no, not the homophobic Sam Nunn as Veep! Please, not him!How about...Richardson or Kucinich instead?? Tue 24 Jun 2008 10:03:37 GMT+1 David Cunard #35 Noble "the Stars and Stripes will be flying from our house, as it is every day of the year. " Sadly the Flag is not respected as it once was - on Memorial Day ours was stolen from the front of the house. But I'll bet that Ed, if he flies anything at all, runs up the St Andrew's Cross rather than the Union Jack (or Union Flag as it been renamed.) If nothing else, it's good for flag trade. Tue 24 Jun 2008 00:45:43 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart Noble,"Do you find it strange that immigrants (legal that is) are often more patriotic than those fortunate enough to have been born here?"Not at all! I've observed the same about adopted Scots...;-)ed Mon 23 Jun 2008 23:46:25 GMT+1 nobleFloridian Thank you Blue - be assured that the Stars and Stripes will be flying from our house, as it is every day of the year. Do you find it strange that immigrants (legal that is) are often more patriotic than those fortunate enough to have been born here? And for those bloggers who do not know, you can usually get a flag from your man or woman in Washington for a nominal sum. I pay $9.25 for a 3x5 cotton stitched flag, MADE IN THE USA. Mon 23 Jun 2008 23:36:30 GMT+1 turningblueandgrey Sam Nunn's involvement in any form whether VP or cabinet, like his preceding endorsement, is an asset to the Obama campaign and administration.Noble you are not only young at heart but still a pup compared compared to our Republic, with birthday approaching about a week after yours... Mon 23 Jun 2008 22:45:30 GMT+1 bitman38 Sam Nunn Might be a good fit for Obama.frist Nunn is a big hawk of the politcal center. Sam Nunn has been in politcs since 1972. He is a Major player in world politcs.He can help Obama win G.A. Mon 23 Jun 2008 20:03:20 GMT+1 nobleFloridian It obviously comes as no surprise to Justin's bloggers that old noble is a diehard Republican - they might therefore be surprised to learn that I think Sam Nunn would be a fine VP should their man attain the White House, In his years in office I always thought he was a reasonable, thoughtful, fair man who was a sharp contrast to the lefties like Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid et al. And who can deny that a man who was an Eagle Scout in his youth, and who served in the U.S. Coast Guard and the Coast Guard Reserve, would be a perfect foil for Obama's youth, and make up for his blatant inexperience in all things political.Who says 70 is old? I take strong exception to that! Mon 23 Jun 2008 19:20:09 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart Lost in Translation: Alhurra - America’s Troubled Effort to Win Middle East Hearts and MindsUS Spends $500 million to run an Arabic broadcast station run by Ajam*."Alhurra’s reporters and commentators operate with little oversight. Alhurra’s president, Brian Conniff, does not speak Arabic and is unable to understand anything broadcast on the radio and television networks he is paid to manage. Conniff has no journalism experience and worked previously as a government auditor."Typical!ed* literally "dumb" i.e. non Arabic speaker. Mon 23 Jun 2008 18:58:34 GMT+1 David Cunard Speculating about a potential vice-presidential running mate is much like the time when "Gone With The Wind" was about to be filmed. The search for Scarlett, with all the pros and cons, filled the newspapers and radio shows, with readers and listeners obsessed by Tallulah Bankhead, Joan Crawford and almost every female star known. In the end, the production started filming without Scarlett being cast - and when the chosen actress was finally revealed, it was none of those considered to be in the running.It could be that Mr Obama finds himself in the same position as Mr Selznick, although it is to be hoped that he will decide before the Convention - but even then he may not reveal it until he officially has the Nomination. Delaying the choice is good theatre and keeps the media focussed on him and his campaign, not a bad strategy and free publicity of the type that mmoney can’t buy. Mon 23 Jun 2008 18:51:36 GMT+1 allmymarbles To assume that a running mate can deliver his own state is in error. Very often they do not. As far as Georgia is concerned, its large black population, plus the support of Jimmy Carter, is more to the point.As long as the running mate is not controversial, he or she does not seem to matter much. However, given the circumstances of this particular election, were Obama to choose a woman, that might sway some wmen feminists to his side, assuming they were not on his side to begin with. Mon 23 Jun 2008 18:27:03 GMT+1 SunshinePlus I met Sam Nunn at a fundraiser in a private home in Ocala, Florida in the late 80's. early on in his political career. He would be an excellent choice, I believe. And provide good support for Obama's history making domestic and foreign programs. Mon 23 Jun 2008 17:59:44 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart McCain awaits another attack on USA"Earlier this year, after former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto was tragically assassinated, pundits speculated that the shocking attack may have benefited Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) politically. Now, McCain’s chief strategist, Charlie Black, tells Fortune that the “unfortunate event” of Bhutto’s death “helped us.” Asked if another terrorist attack on U.S. soil would help McCain as well, Black told Fortune that it would be “a big advantage to him“: The assassination of Benazir Bhutto in December was an “unfortunate event,” says Black. “But his knowledge and ability to talk about it reemphasized that this is the guy who’s ready to be Commander-in-Chief. And it helped us.” As would, Black concedes with startling candor after we raise the issue, another terrorist attack on U.S. soil. “Certainly it would be a big advantage to him,” says Black."So, when d'ya reckon the GOP has it scheduled?;-)ed Mon 23 Jun 2008 17:55:13 GMT+1 gunsandreligion Given the widespread fear that Obamawould be another Carter, he's going tomore or less float rumors in volume abouthis picks for cabinet members. As to whom he might select as VP,it does have to be someone like Nunnwho is perceived as being strong ondefense.Condi wouldn't be bad in her currentjob, at least she knows the facts on the ground.For some reason, neither candidate seemsto be up to speed on foreign policy, andObama is probably not worse thanMcCain in this regard, although it's histurn to make a blunder. Mon 23 Jun 2008 17:47:46 GMT+1 mediamofo Mark: Villaraigosa was for Clinton in the primaries- this automatically discounts him on grounds of questionable judgement. Richardson is better even though he did dither a fair bit over his endorsement of Obama- at the moment he is proving an articulate advocate on the TV for him. Caroline Kennedy? There was a hoo-ha over whether she was even qualified to be part of the VP-vetting process! God knows what would happen if she was the VP herself! Mon 23 Jun 2008 17:23:28 GMT+1 Mark I don't think Nunn, or Webb for that matter, are realistic VPs, nor do I think that is how Obama is thinking. What you do highlight is the need for Obama to make several key appointments such as Treasury, State, and Defense, and go into the election with the key positions in place: it is only convention that the cabinet positions wait until after the election, not necessity. If he announces Nunn and/or Richardson as part of that mix then his hands are freed to be more adventurous.As for VP: I have often thought that a very smart move would be to run with Villaraigosa, the mayor of LA. Such a pick would influence Latino voters across a swathe of states and potentially put Texas into play. If McCain is left defending Texas, he won't be running Obama close in Michigan or Pennsylvania. The other off-the-wall pick is Caroline Kennedy because she is discreet and he will trust her advice: she would fill the Willie Whitelaw role of the discreet and wise advisor (for US readers Whitelaw was Thatcher's deputy in the early 80s). She would also be a great pick for Attorney General.If Obama does go for a conventional candidate, then it has to be Richardson. He lacks the charisma of Villaraigosa, but he would shift the balance in the southwest; and, again, if McCain is defending, New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada, the fight in the east gets easier. Mon 23 Jun 2008 16:42:11 GMT+1 mediamofo Note to Justin: give up the idea of VP's 'delivering' states. Think: in 2000 Al Gore didn't even take his home state of Tennessee. Mon 23 Jun 2008 16:41:50 GMT+1 mediamofo Why don't you want Sebelius? Very sexist. Mon 23 Jun 2008 16:32:45 GMT+1 Streathamite I can see the case for Nunn, and he seems to know hiss tuff, but Webb is younger and more eloquent Mon 23 Jun 2008 16:29:10 GMT+1 sailordie As a Georgian that is not very proud of most Ga politicians such as the traitor zell miller,and the ridiculous newt I consider Sam Nunn to be one of the most honest and intelligent of all politicians. He is a brilliant man and would be a great asset in any position. He would add stability to the ticket that could make the difference. I feel he would make a great Sec of State or Defense most any cabinet position as he is a bright spot among the many idiots that seem to become politicians. As to the comment on keeping rice in her current job, I feel that would be as bad as having dick remain as VP. She is as much a part of the problem with this administration as shrub and dick, she is as much a lier as they are. While i know she has great credentials,like shrub one has to wonder who they paid for their diploma. Mon 23 Jun 2008 14:49:06 GMT+1 Reuben34g Mike in Perth (#9):Condi is way too conservative for Obama.She was national security advisor during the invasion of Iraq, so she's definitely one of Dubya's pro-war Hawks and McCain will want to prove that he's not just Bush 2.0, so he'll appoint a more moderate Secretary of State.On January 20th will be succeeded by someone else, regardless of who wins in November. Mon 23 Jun 2008 14:09:11 GMT+1 NHGeoffB The argument that Nunn does not encroach on HRC's future prospects because of his age is ridiculous. HRC will only be able to run for president again if:A) Obama loses this cycle and she runs in 2012 B) She pulls a Ted Kennedy and runs against him in the primary in 2012 and gets the nominationC) He chooses not to pursue a second term (ala LBJ) and opens the field for her in 2012HRC will be 68 in 2016, and common opinion is that is a bit on the old side for a presidential candidate, even though its 4 years younger than McCain Mon 23 Jun 2008 13:58:29 GMT+1 dylunydd Well spotted Ed:"Adam, If you look at the "bottom" of the article, you'll see it's three pages long, and considerably more than 328 words."Made me laugh, use the scroll bar Adam then try commenting again! hehe Mon 23 Jun 2008 13:56:04 GMT+1 jcgoodlett2 Though as a Georgian (US of A) and an Obama supporter, I simply can't see Sam Nunn bringing much weight beyond his running the U.S. Senate Committee on Armed Services...the comparative of JFK's pick of LBJ, simply does not compute in a vastly more complex world that needs a strong number 2 who can do more than deliver votes...what the US of A needs, as does Obama, is a Vice Presidential running mate who can bring weight to the table of smart business and financial acumen, strong political leadership, and superb negotiating skills...did someone say NY Mayor, Michael Bloomberg?? Mon 23 Jun 2008 13:47:08 GMT+1 Stakeholder The choice of Sam Nunn would reassure apprehensive white male voters that Obama is not the most liberal senator out to weaken the US. Sam Nunn is a defense expert with timinng and brains. Also, he is boring enough to balance Sen. Obama's showboat cliche moments. Sam Nunn might also make the differennce in Colorado and Mississippi. Mon 23 Jun 2008 13:06:11 GMT+1 Swimmera “We can use the military to help the poor.” Sam Nunn, Georgia’s favorite Man, envisioned the most far reaching method for improving the human condition seen by people since the great religions introduced us to morality. When the “Cold War” was concluding and the big question of what to do with our huge military/industrial complex came to Senator Nunn (while serving as Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Armed Services), He boldly said: “We can use the military to help the poor.” Well the warmonger crowd went nuts and did everything they could to stop any such effort from spreading. And, as the World well knows, the U.S. warmongers won. However, it may not be over. With Sam Nunn as President Obama’s Vice President, our country can find our way to peace while utilizing the military/industrialist for sustaining life rather than spending such massive effort on killing our fellow human beings. Every one of us needs Sam Nunn in a top U.S. leadership position. This is the way to end the reign of the U.S. politico warmongers now commanding the U.S. military. Support Sam Nunn. And, the World will, at long last, give peace a chance. Mon 23 Jun 2008 12:41:39 GMT+1 julblog as obama, is a vibrant politician. he need to have someone who is more active in politics and the us policies despite age as an adage says an old man is a wise man. Mon 23 Jun 2008 12:41:13 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart Rube (5), thanks for the encouraging link."even though her Dodge Neon got an impressive 30 miles a gallon"I just took my wife to Dumfries to catch a train. Our diesel car got 68.2 MPG (54.6/US Gallon) on the 40 mile round trip.Streathamite, I'm cautious of ALL polls even the official election. ;-)Mike, G-d save us from Ms Rice! Ex-oil and pipelinistan negotiator - nothing could be further from a clean slate!Adam, If you look at the "bottom" of the article, you'll see it's three pages long, and considerably more than 328 words. As to, "It mentions "impeccable national-security credentials" etc. but doesn't offer any examples of this.""The case begins with war and peace. The two greatest security threats America faces are the toll of the Iraq war and the specter of nuclear terrorism. Nunn happens to be an expert on both the military and "loose nukes." He served for eight of his 24 years in the Senate as chairman of the Armed Services Committee, becoming one of Washington's top defense policy gurus. For years, his opposition to the first Gulf war was a crippling liability. But now, as an opponent of both Iraq invasions, Nunn is back in step with the popular mood. The same goes for his relentless focus on securing and dismantling loose nuclear weapons and materials lest they fall into the hands of people who want to incinerate U.S. cities. His signature Senate achievement was a cooperative U. S.-Russian program to reduce nuclear stockpiles and shore up security at former Soviet nuclear sites. That program, wrote one prominent author, "has proven to be one of the most important investments we could have made to protect ourselves from catastrophe."None so blind....Salaam, etc.ed Mon 23 Jun 2008 12:37:13 GMT+1 dennisjunior1 Justin:Sam Nunn, would be one of the excellent choices for Vice President candidates shortlist of Barrack Obama's short-list.Problem is: His age.People are already complaining about John McCain age. Mon 23 Jun 2008 12:28:46 GMT+1 adamsim The New Republic's article is neither "thoughtful" nor "persuasive".It comprises only 328 words (barely the length of a trivial diary piece in most broadsheets. It mentions "impeccable national-security credentials" etc. but doesn't offer any examples of this.It's more a lazy political journalist's excuse for filling up space between the end of the primaries and the DNC. And anothers' for using it as a blog entry. Mon 23 Jun 2008 12:06:17 GMT+1 MikeinPerth I think that just about anything is possible in respect to Obama's selection of vice president. The choice of Sam Nunn resonates with JFK's choice of LBJ.Is it also possible that he will retain the services of Condeleeza Rice as Secretary of State for at least his first term. Mon 23 Jun 2008 12:00:19 GMT+1 RecruitGal Hmmm... I can see the attraction of putting Georgia in play, and Sam is a well respected figure... But I'd still like to see a left-field choice of someone who isn't a washington insider. I'd be quite delighted to see Bloomberg on the ticket. A nod towards bi-partisanism, and it would put Florida in play - rather than just surrendering it to McCain...It wouldn't help Obama in terms of foreign affairs experience, but if the economy is the number one issues, he could doa lot worse than someone who is a highly accomplished businessman. Mon 23 Jun 2008 11:57:20 GMT+1 Streathamite @ ed iglehart, #2:I'd be wary of those the labour party discovered to their cost, in 1983, 1987, and 1992, what people say in an opinion poll may vary dramatically to what they do in the privacy of the polling booth.3 times thay had ginormous mid-term leads, 3 times they got whupped in the general election. The only poll that matters is the one in November .3 times they said health, education and social services were the key issues; and 3 times they votesd for the party (the Tories) that didn't give a stuff about those things, but which cut taxes. Mon 23 Jun 2008 11:53:43 GMT+1 Candace9839 Not likely in my opinion. Too low key and establishment, and Clinton's presidential ambitions were over when she lost the nomination. Mon 23 Jun 2008 11:49:30 GMT+1 Reuben34g Ed;As much as you like to rant about people needing to change their habits, it's already happening: Mon 23 Jun 2008 11:05:32 GMT+1 Reuben34g Georgia is a red state, that gave us the likes of Newt Gingrich, so Sam Nunn has less of a chance of swinging it for Obama than Jim Webb does for Virginia.Sam Nunn is retired from the Senate, he doesn't want to go out on the campaign trail, he wants to enjoy his few remaining years in peace at home. So he'd probably say,"No, I'm not subjecting my family to that."Nunn is may apeal to old democrats because he's somebody they remember and liked, but they were going to vote for Obama anyway, Obama needs to pick somebody that moderates and independants will like, not some guy who's almost as old as McCain, if he kicks the bucket as a VP then Obama will have to go through a confirmation procesess for his new VP pick, and I don't think he's going to want that. Mon 23 Jun 2008 10:57:13 GMT+1 doctor-gloom Obama's camp have to distance themselves from the Clinton camp. Clinton core supporters are important to Obama, but if he and his group have any sense they'll do what ever's necessary to rid themselves of the past, and anyone from the Clinton camp is the past. Mon 23 Jun 2008 10:53:21 GMT+1 Ed Iglehart Justin, Thanks for the link.Nunn better, but we can rest assured that Sam is on the team, no matter wo gets the nod as VP running-mate. One thing which should be obvious is Obama's willingness to gather advisors and team-builders around him, and to listen.Sam has been on the Obama bus for quite a while.I'm content to await Obama's VP decision, but I'm still long Webb, Richardson and Sebelius and wildly short HRC - just for fun!Salaam/ShalomedP.S. This is re-assuring"n a Post-ABC News poll last month, nearly nine in 10 whites said they would be comfortable with a black president. While fewer whites, about two-thirds, said they would be "entirely comfortable" with it, that was more than double the percentage of all adults who said they would be so at ease with someone entering office for the first time at age 72, which McCain (R-Ariz.) would do should he prevail in November." Mon 23 Jun 2008 10:06:53 GMT+1 watermanaquarius JustinAfter all the blood-letting in the Democrat campaign I would have thought that a "fresh" blood transfusion was more necessary than picking a bottle of the stored group O establishment stuff from the shelf. A man from the centre okay, but does he have the edge.June 27, Hillary gets back in the saddle, after her transplant. Perhaps the impettus of her required input will clear the air and make a choice more obvious.Must she still be pandered to re 2012, 16....?Red blood please , not blue or grey. Mon 23 Jun 2008 08:43:27 GMT+1