Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html en-gb 30 Sat 28 Nov 2009 15:27:11 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html Rory Cellan-Jones (BBC) http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=18#comment14 Some answers to a few of the queries and grumbles.4. Dan was using a Sony Z1 camera, rather than the bigger DSR500 used by many of our news crews.5 and 6.Not sure what point you're making. Surely feeding short messages from a news event using a new platform is something worth trying? It didn't cost the BBC anything - just occupied a couple of hours of my evening.10. Dan and I were the only BBC employees at this event - though Maggie Shiels was in San Francisco. Dan gathered pictures for my web video, but was primarily there for Click. As you can see, I blogged and contributed some video for the website. I would also have contributed to BBC radio and TV outlets if I'd thought the story merited wider coverage - but I didn't. Mon 15 Sep 2008 10:54:30 GMT+1 icejustintime http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=17#comment13 Interesting stuff, these guys have got the twitter/news thing on the way.http://www.nowpublic.com/tags/Apple/scan Sun 14 Sep 2008 07:36:27 GMT+1 hackerjack http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=16#comment12 The use of twitter isnt a problem, as long as it is in addition to a proper review and report, replacing it just wont do. Fri 12 Sep 2008 12:24:09 GMT+1 skittledog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=14#comment11 Those who are complaining, I sort of fail to see the point. Rory's twitter feed was fairly clear on how much of a non-event he felt it was, but you'd hardly expect the BBC *not* to send a reporter to a launch event, would you? I think using it as a chance to try out different means of spreading information is quite a good idea, personally.I was idly watching the tweets while making my dinner. I liked the immediacy of reporting, although it'd definitely be of more use during more interesting events. ;)Video clips seemed to work fine but were a bit pointless for this kind of thing - perhaps just one to bear in mind for the next time you find yourself in the immediate vicinity of hurricanes, fire or flooding... Thu 11 Sep 2008 19:21:48 GMT+1 owen_thesaints http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=13#comment10 Can we have a follow up to all this hype? It was hardly a ground breaking announcement after all.Perhaps we could now have an article on how iTunes 8 is incompatible for many Vista users with Logitech and HP peripherals? Thu 11 Sep 2008 14:51:25 GMT+1 Ironbath http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=12#comment9 I agree with 5 and 9.At the risk of hi-jacking your blog, I'd be very interested to know exactly how many BBC employees attended this non-story.Or did you and Dan use the technology you had available to cover the non-story for BBC News, BBC Radio, BBC News 24, BBC Website, Local BBC etc.The technology is only of any use if you can do more with less. Thu 11 Sep 2008 13:02:43 GMT+1 RJTysoe http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=10#comment8 I have defended the BBC's coverage of Apple events on these blogs previously, but coming from the Technology page, where apparently 'Apple unveils "thinnest iPod yet"' was top story on both Tuesday and Wednesday (the same story is actually linked 3 times on the Technology page) and there is a video article on the new iPod, only to find that this blog is thinly disguised hype for the same event. Given that the story was "not a major story" I wonder why it is given so much coverage by the BBC? Thu 11 Sep 2008 08:04:18 GMT+1 canukqc http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=9#comment7 I think this kind of journalism would be great for say, during the US election, with all correspondents tweeting and then perhaps a live tweet-bar on BBC World! (you know- above the ticker). Thanks for the experiment, I'm glad you had something interesting to do Rory, as the whole thing sounds quite boring otherwise. Thu 11 Sep 2008 02:19:52 GMT+1 craig-mcgill http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=8#comment6 Some people here at being a bit grumpy about this. Twitter is great for putting out quick live updates from events - and there's no harm in being concise.As for the kit used, it all looks not too bad. I used a Nokia N95 to cover an event recently with the results viewable here: http://craig-mcgill.com/2008/08/04/nokia-n95-as-a-reportingpr-tool-at-t-in-the-park/The danger I would see - for the BBC - is if they see the need to send a videocrew and umpteen journalists when you could have the cameraman take all the video and stills with the reporter doing audio soundbites and the normal reporting duties, but doing them for web, print and radio. Wed 10 Sep 2008 20:35:03 GMT+1 hackerjack http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=6#comment5 Agree with #5.For an event like this the 'instant update' nature of reporting is completely wrong. Wed 10 Sep 2008 17:47:35 GMT+1 digital_elysium http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=5#comment4 I love my gadgets, but even I am struggling to see a purpose to this.What do the audience gain from being drip-fed 140 character sound-bites?All I want (and need), is for you to summarise the event, jist some facts for me, provide the occasional picture or video and some links to external content. The current BBC news website does all of this more than adequately.The only situation I could ever see the sound-byte approach being useful was during the Olympics, when the BBC Olympics site had a refreshing aggregator of up-to-the-minute happening from multiple journalists across the whole Olympics. Wed 10 Sep 2008 16:14:53 GMT+1 bryanzug http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=4#comment3 Can you tell us what video camera Dan Simmons was using? Thx. Wed 10 Sep 2008 14:33:13 GMT+1 PepFujasProModel http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=2#comment2 @ jmarkohow do you get tweets directly to any mobile? they stopped doing this in the UK last month!that's why i have abandoned it, as it now serves me no purpose Wed 10 Sep 2008 13:54:18 GMT+1 jmarko http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=1#comment1 Rory, I can't believe that you referred to us Twitterers as a 'narrow community'. I myself am quite wide and I sure that there are other Tweeters who are too!Seriously, though, I would venture that the reach of Twitter is far greater than the reach of, say, HD TV but that seems to be a great priority. Of each of the social networking options you looked at, Twitter is the largest and is the simplest to follow - after all, you can get your Tweets delivered directly to any mobile - something you can't do with the video-based upstarts.Twitter's alerted me to a host of interesting articles and has given me instant reaction to all sorts of stories in a way that the others cannot do. Auntie needs to Twitter more!jmarko Wed 10 Sep 2008 13:12:48 GMT+1 timkirby_g4vxe http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/09/twitter_qik_flip_how_to_cover.html?page=0#comment0 Thanks for the experiment, Rory.I was thinking about it, this morning. Following your tweets gave the launch much more immediacy - and a feeling of being involved in the event.Though the video isn't high quality, it is certainly entirely adequate to see what's going on.You know you were saying the other day about how you could say things in a way on Twitter that you might not do in a more 'formal' broadcast medium? It struck me that the same is probably true of using tools like Qik/Flip for less formal broadcasts.Either way, your coverage was very welcome and gave us interest and entertainment. Wed 10 Sep 2008 12:49:41 GMT+1