Comments for http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html en-gb 30 Fri 25 Jul 2014 17:16:59 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html U9746596 http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=92#comment13 @juuxjuux, All of microsoft's media centers have been heaps of turd. Go for media portal, it has a couple of bugs but they are being ironed out and it has about a billion more features than Media Center Mon 30 Jun 2008 22:35:12 GMT+1 Mark_MWFC http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=85#comment12 I'm not sure we should consign WinMo to the dustbin yet - let's see what version 7 brings first. I think we also need to understand that the iPhone has the same issue - a proprietary desktop OS cut down to a mobile size - yet it's been fairly successful. Open source development may reap rewards but fundamentally the manufacturers are going to want stable and standardised platforms to work with.As for Vista, I agree it's more a perceived than actual issue now although Microsoft scored a series of embarrassing own goals on release which led to a lot of the criticism that we currently hear. That said, I think the tech press has been a little bit naughty in its coverage by latching onto some horribly misleading articles. Of course, those of us that are old enough will remember the same furore over XP's release and how much criticism it came under, most of which lasted until the advent of SP2.Finally, you're spot on about Windows 7 - MS need to be absolutely brutal about what it will run on and support and strip it down accordingly and they really need to get rid of the multiple versions. By all means if peopel want extras then they can add user purchasable modules but just have the one core product. Mon 30 Jun 2008 19:05:59 GMT+1 jdnthldn http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=78#comment11 Darren I don't think that was need for the comment on MS Windows Mobile as I think it is a great platform with great potential. For instantaneous look what HTC did with the HTC Touch Diamond they build a customer user interface with touch flow 3D which too many would appeal to consumer and not business. Microsoft approach to the platform is very business focused where as we a consumer’s want a simple product but people of the younger generation like myself would rather have a stylish and technological piece of material rather than something simple. Microsoft platform has bought developer to create mass market and bespoke software in which some mobile OS can't be done a simply. I know it has problems but doesn’t everything now days, Apples Mobile OS has problems, Nokia Symbian has it problems to. We will see what Microsoft tweaks and what is done in Windows Mobile 7 due out Q4. Mon 30 Jun 2008 16:41:30 GMT+1 MikeyElmes http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=71#comment10 R.e. ZuneI've got one and I love it. If MS had bothered with a global launch it might have been more sucessful, as it was I bought it on holiday while in the states, and think it could have been a real competitor to the Ipod. Mon 30 Jun 2008 12:38:22 GMT+1 Jimmy James http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=64#comment9 Well said Darren, they need to ditch WinMob asap, it is an awful, awful OS for a phone. Who cares that it's available for almost every phone? It's still an awful piece of software, clunky, unintuitive and slow.As someone mentioned before, whatever happened to the Zune???? :-)If Windows 7 is anything like the demo they gave of it the other week, it'll be a failure before it's even launched. Who on earth will be using a monitor to type? Your arms will fall off before the end of a workday!!!They need to copy Apple (something they are good at), and start afresh, with a tried and tested BSD system and build from there. Windows will never work properly in its' current state. Mon 30 Jun 2008 12:23:22 GMT+1 darrenwaters http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=57#comment8 @Rob_78 Nice to hear a Vista user who is happy. A colleague of mine recently re-installed Vista and it seems to be much more stable and overall he is very happy. For a while he was thinking OSX but now he is sticking with Windows.I think Vista's problem is perception. The vast majority of people will get Vista with a new PC and probably won't think too much about the controversies.But there's a loud contingent who think Vista has failed to deliever. On balance, I think the are probably right. But when you are delivering an OS designed for up to 900m PCs then it's a big task. Mon 30 Jun 2008 12:03:35 GMT+1 garethsps http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=49#comment7 and you also forgot to mention the Zune. Where was that going? Mon 30 Jun 2008 11:52:14 GMT+1 Rob_78 http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=42#comment6 I'm sure i'll get attacked for saying this but i really like Vista. Now that it's been out for a while software compatibility has been hugely improved, as has stability. It looks much nicer than XP, is more secure (although the annoying prompts take a little bit of getting used to) and the search feature is excellent! The search feature alone stops me going back to XP. Don't get me wrong, XP is a very good operating system but it had most of the same complaints raised against it when it first came out - used too much ram, bad compatibility, was described as just a prettying up and dumbing down of Windows 2000. Not to mention it didn't get anywhere near stable until service pack 2 came out... If it wasn't for the fact that it was following on from the abhorrent Windows Me it might not have been seen in such a good light.Re the Xbox - i might be wrong but didn't MS license the "technology" from IBM and AMD in the first place? And in any case do we really want MS extending their monopoly of the home pc market further to encompass even more digital devices? Especially when they are as unreliable as the Xbox...Couldn't agree more about windows mobile though - it's dire! Mon 30 Jun 2008 11:43:03 GMT+1 juuxjuux http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=35#comment5 Could I add a sixth? Make my Vista Media Center work as it should! Mon 30 Jun 2008 11:29:35 GMT+1 Jary316 http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=28#comment4 About Windows, Microsoft is taking off where it stopped: from Vista. This is not a good thing to do. There has been a dozen of versions of Windows, from Windows 1.0 and each time they try to add more features, improve glitches, makes fixes and correct bugs, correct the fixes that did not work properly.What needs to be done is a full overhaul, a total revamp of windows, maybe even from scratch, like Mac did for Max OS X. This could solve a lot of security problems, speed and crash problems, if the core was to be rewritten.Think that Windows is close to 20 year old when hardware has a lot improved. It's time for a revamp! Mon 30 Jun 2008 11:07:18 GMT+1 Chris http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=21#comment3 Wow - brave post, Darren. I take my hat off to you ... and replace it with my tin helmet. MS fanboys at 12 o'clock! Mon 30 Jun 2008 10:59:41 GMT+1 whitecm1 http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=14#comment2 Windows Mobile (via the .net compact framework) gives developers something that none of the alternatives do - an easy platform to develop software on, free from the restrictions that Apple make. Mon 30 Jun 2008 10:22:23 GMT+1 darrenwaters http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=7#comment1 @wayneph I've always seen Windows Mobile as an attempt to replicate the desktop ecosystem on the mobile phone sector. I just don't think it works. I also think the move to open platforms - Symbian, Linux and Android - will put the squeeze commercially on MS in this area.I also don't see what anyone gains from using Windows Mobile. What are its technological advantages? I can't think of any. But I'm willing to be convinced. As a gamer I've long waited for Microsoft to better connect Xbox and Windows Mobile but that doesn't appear to have happened yet.I also think the cloud's importance will mean open systems will triumph because people want data portability. Can Windows Mobile offer that? Mon 30 Jun 2008 10:00:57 GMT+1 W Phillips http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/06/five_tasks_for_microsoft.html?page=0#comment0 Darren - ditch Windows Mobile?? Are you nuts?? WM will ship over 14 million copies this year and of the top 5 handset makers, only Nokia are not using in their offerings and most are using it in their high end (ie Premium Price) devices...Microsoft talks about the 'next billion users' and sees many of these as non-PC platform based - ie Windows mobile derivations. Look at the huge range of devices available already - from conventional form factor phones to tablet machines already in the market and then look at the roadmap from makers such as HTC and Samsung to see what they are planning next. WM is a complex product for sure and having one brand name for basic handsets through PDAs to tablet-PC style devices isn't so smart from a branding sense. But, having a single dev platform for a market of 15 million per annum new sales (plus installed base of over 40 million) is very important - look at the application base already available - it is huge and spans all dev types/marketing approaches from free to enterprise grade.WM isn't going to and shouldn't go away in my opinion. From what I have read, Microsoft already makes money from this division and most handset/PDA makers are making good money from their devices (or they wouldn't be using it I assume). Having WM in the market also and rather importantly, gives users choice especially those enterprise users (we are not all fashion phone buyers!) who would otherwise have no real choice in the market - RIM would be the only serious option. Microsoft is promoting competition to what would otherwise be a completely closed supply chain of one manufacturer owning both hardware and software - we all know that isn't good for the buyer! Mon 30 Jun 2008 09:53:18 GMT+1