Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html en-gb 30 Thu 23 Oct 2014 06:38:54 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html specs3d http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html?page=90#comment10 Wow Google sure are expanding very rapidly. 407 million in three months?? :-S If I had that amount of money I'd buy my own planet and rent out accommodation to space travelers lol. I wonder just how big googles going to get?www.nicholasfinnegan.com Thu 22 May 2008 12:23:24 GMT+1 Cimaich00 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html?page=81#comment9 Google is a powerhouse that is getting bigger and better due to the fact they are a very positive forward thinking company. I work as the SEO Manager for customerstreet.com and Googles algorithms are just light years away in regard to all other major search engines, due to this they show the most accurate results on the SERP's (search engine results pages). I can only see Google grow even bigger as they are the one and only search engine that you need to worry about in regard there results pages as they have the market share of users (by a long way). Even better than that, Google offer people the ability to advertise via PPC (pay per click), you pay to have adverts on the results pages for your given keyword phrase (what someone types in to find your product(s)/service(s)). This will continue to grow as more and more businesses go online and they want to be found, competition will grow for each business online so thus will need PPC (Google advertising arm) or via website optimisation (natural listings) to get where they want their shopfront on the results pages. Tue 22 Apr 2008 10:56:23 GMT+1 dave_brennan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html?page=72#comment8 This article misses the point a bit. ITV is one very significant part of a very healthy commercial TV sector worth £4.5 billion last year. Search – of which Google is the undoubted king – was worth £1.6 billion last year. It may compete with ITV in revenue size but that says more about increased competition in the commercial TV sector – a good thing for viewers and advertisers – than anything else.Secondly, bednbored is absolutely right. Search is basically direct marketing by another name. It fulfils a completely different function from display advertising like TV which builds brands. Search is valuable but TV is proven by wise heads at PricewaterhouseCoopers, the IPA and others to be the most effective ad medium. It returns £4.5 million for every £1 million spent. Search can be seductive in the short term because it appears so accountable but brands will soon find that if they neglect their TV budgets they may see short term gains but their brand will wither and, if not die, at least fall asleep. Of course the best thing to do is to be smart and use TV advertising and online together – and to fund them from different budgets. This is a very important point at this moment because economic pressures are wrongly causing boardrooms to consider chopping or re-allocating marketing budgets. In fact the TV and online ad industries have recently joined forces to research how and why the two work so well together – results of ‘TV + Online: Better Together’ will be out in early May.Bednbored is also right to say that the growth of the internet is not affecting TV. It isn’t. People are watching more broadcast TV and TV ads than ever before – and we don’t measure their online viewing yet, although it is dwarfed by what we watch from the sofa. People even go online in their millions to watch TV ads even more – from drumming gorillas to play-doh bunnies. TV is helping the internet grow (witness the iPlayer, ITV.com, 4OD et al) and helps search to grow. It is crystal clear that if you put your ad on TV, people go online to find out more using search.I am, however, glad that your article resisted the temptation to compare internet advertising as a whole to TV advertising. Others have and it is very misleading. The internet is a technology with lots of different ad options including display, classified and, of course, searches. It is not a single ad medium. When the revenues for these distinct things are lumped together and used to compare to something like TV it is misleading as it isn’t comparing like with like. It’s like adding up the funds for everything that uses printing as its technology (from newspapers through to shelf-wobblers) and using that one figure or adding up all print media (magazines, papers, directories) and using that figure. Both figures would be monumental, vastly bigger than online and pointless. Comparisons may offer a guide to how a sector is growing but it is meaningless if you are interested in how advertising works.I must declare a vested interest here as I work in marketing for commercial TV. Fri 18 Apr 2008 15:23:23 GMT+1 Chrisj1343 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html?page=63#comment7 Why does everyone persist in using Google. I much prefer the "old" Altavista with its command line search options AND no adverts ! Fri 18 Apr 2008 15:17:08 GMT+1 albback http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html?page=54#comment6 One FINAL thought. If the growth in internet advertising is a threat to anyone, it's to the printing firms and the Royal Mail who currently produce and deliver direct marketing ("junk") mail. Internet advertising is just an online equivalent of that. Fri 18 Apr 2008 13:52:42 GMT+1 albback http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html?page=45#comment5 Despite the internet, there will always be a place for advertising on television stations. I don't believe it is particularly affected by the growth of internet advertising (only to a minor degree) and is still the most effective form of advertising. So there's no need to panic.As for the amazing rapid growth of internet advertising; it had to come. As for those people who say it has no effect, one word, wrong! People may not go out and buy a product straight away because of an internet advertisement, but the advertisers will have got their message across, none the less.As for Phorm. What a frightening thought, that all your web browsing can be logged and used to better target you for advertising; but will it stop there? I very much doubt it. I only hope our politicians have the imagination to see further than the simple advertising argument and put a stop to this anti-privacy idea before it's started. Though my gut feeling is that they'll bend to the massive business lobby (and I bet the secret services would just love to get their hands on some of the data). Fri 18 Apr 2008 13:26:58 GMT+1 DevonBen http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html?page=36#comment4 Google are so successful at adverts because they understand both perspectives. Google understand the commercial need i.e. that the ad revenue pays for their existence, and the great tools they create. Google also understand that most people aren't really interested in the adverts when they use Google or other web sites, they only want some relevant adds when shopping. So Google make their adverts unobtrusive.Just like many other Firefox users I make use of the adblock add-on, but even if you use Internet Explorer, you can still get rid of the ads with the excellent and free IE7Pro add-on. Fri 18 Apr 2008 12:57:33 GMT+1 miles_hayler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html?page=27#comment3 Google may be the "fat cats", but they still give the best search results. And maps. And email service. And search history. Fri 18 Apr 2008 11:59:07 GMT+1 marv http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html?page=18#comment2 There is actually no demand for targetted advertising - not one single person i have ever spoken to has told me that they wished they were sent more online adverts that were directly harvested from someone snooping on their online websurfing habits. Fri 18 Apr 2008 11:53:27 GMT+1 BillyAthletic http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html?page=9#comment1 Yes, the online admen are not best pleased with that Firefox plugin....I think it's great!!The article itself explains why people should move away from Google as when you do a search your not getting the best sites back you're getting who's paid to be there. I actually make a point of not clicking any 'sponsored links',Its easy to stick with Google (I still do myself) but that's because of the other services Google supply free of charge(gmail for example) and that's how Google make their money by me coming back to their site everyday. One day I will switch my default search engine but Google don't need to worry for now ;-). Fri 18 Apr 2008 11:43:34 GMT+1 ChrisM http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_how_big_is_too_big.html?page=0#comment0 Best thing is ive rendered all of googles ads (and any other ad) useless with a nice Firefox plug in. This is similar to the way ive rendered all of ITVs advertising useless, i dont watch ITV! Fri 18 Apr 2008 09:59:30 GMT+1