Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html en-gb 30 Wed 23 Jul 2014 00:21:29 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html tardegrade http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=98#comment55 Let me get this straight. Double Twist are offering "choice", but their media software only runs on Microsoft Windows platform. Not Mac and not Linux. How are they giving me choice then? I run a Linux laptop and desktop, I don't want to install a Microsoft Operating System, in order to be given choice.Kind of not really choice is it. Good for Big Brother (Microsoft) though. What a wonderful exercise in double think. To think that you are being given choice, whilst been tied to the borg's operating system. Tue 06 Oct 2009 13:44:03 GMT+1 BSspotter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=96#comment54 "The aim is to let users take their digital media like songs, movies and other files and transfer them easily between say cell phones, cameras, laptops and iPods."Well whoopie do. As an Apple user I've been able to do this for the last several years without Double twist. All the freeware software is there for the taking. In addition, when iTunes was DRMed (it hasn't been for sometime - and thank Apple for removing it when it got enough leverage with the music companies) it was easy to remove the DRM (and that didn't even take software just a CD-RW disc). The blogger is quick to accuse but is only looking superficially at Apple's current issues and repeating the blogs of other chattering classes re the iPhone etc without a real understanding of what Apple is up to.The video sucks though. The ipod ear buds is very funny. I like the dig at "think different" but the rest of the video is pretty cheap looking and a better Steve Jobs look alike as BB with some better dialogue (perhaps based on "i" would have been more appropriate).However, I applaud Double Twist. I'll go try their software as it may make life even easier. Now if someone could do that for my Windows stuff too that would be nice. and @ mvario regarding the Oslo critisism ... well Double Twist may have been founded in Oslo but it is part HQed in San Francisco which is just north of Silicon Valley! Mon 05 Oct 2009 23:08:55 GMT+1 Amigo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=94#comment53 Choice. People select Apple for whatever reasons they select.Quality, facilities, ease of use, reliability, whatever.....Use of language? The French have learnt that they either allow their language to evolve, or it dies."Cell" (US), "Mobile" (UK English), "Moby" (anywhere/somewhere), describes ....exactly.... you know what it describes, so what's the problem?There are those that would describe me as "an Apple fanboy". Those that do so, must have a problem. I chose NOT to denigrate those that prefer other operating systems. What is their problem? I find it insulting.Just be legal. If you don't like the laws / rules, then try to change them. If you can't change the rules, then move country to somewhere where they accept things the way you wish they were. Sun 04 Oct 2009 15:18:23 GMT+1 enzos2 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=92#comment52 So here we have a typical BBC made-up rubbish story about a bunch of freetards (under DVD Jon) complaining about a company with $35 billion in the bank (which is nothing like M$ and whose products usually take top place for customer satisfaction and reliability in each and every category they compete in!!) No wonder one word - cell - stands out. It's the only thing to talk about. I prefer 'cell phone' to 'mobile phone', btw, for the same reason I prefer 'lift' to 'elevator'. Besides outside a cellular network a mobile phone might as well be a brick. Sun 04 Oct 2009 10:53:03 GMT+1 canukqc http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=91#comment51 The british have for centuries been able to force people to speak the way they want them to, either by invading them or by using economic might. Now britain has no empire and little economic influence, we are just going to have to get to used it. That's the way the cookie, sorry biscuit, crumbles. Sat 03 Oct 2009 11:18:11 GMT+1 Opaque http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=89#comment50 2 and a half months of work? Blimey. Someone at sixth form could do better in a week I'm sure. It's a really weak video that is certainly not up to any professional production levels. It's get laughed out of any serious forum. Also interesting how commenting on that YouTube video has been disabled. Doesn't like the idea of criticism when it applied to them hey?I can see why they don't like the idea of what is wrong with Apple etc but it's their own company, they can decide what is and isn't allowed on the App Store for instance. Noone said that you are entitled to have everything on your chosen platform. If he's so annoyed then he can start up his own system and spend the time and money on it and built it up over several years.Hopefully they'll get what's coming to them. Fri 02 Oct 2009 16:49:21 GMT+1 FedupwithGovt http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=87#comment49 This post has been Removed Fri 02 Oct 2009 13:52:06 GMT+1 cg http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=85#comment48 This post has been Removed Fri 02 Oct 2009 11:17:29 GMT+1 peejkerton http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=83#comment47 This post has been Removed Thu 01 Oct 2009 15:52:08 GMT+1 anibga http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=82#comment46 @44 I heard that Sony Ericsson had touchscreen phones that you could install native applications on even before Apple invented it. They even had one that had 4gb flash memory on it. But maybe thats just an urban myth. Thu 01 Oct 2009 13:15:45 GMT+1 badger_fruit http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=80#comment45 This post has been Removed Thu 01 Oct 2009 12:45:04 GMT+1 Duellist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=78#comment44 This post has been Removed Thu 01 Oct 2009 12:35:56 GMT+1 evergrowingbrain http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=76#comment43 This post has been Removed Thu 01 Oct 2009 12:34:56 GMT+1 D http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=74#comment42 Anyway back to topic. I recommend everyone at least try doubleTwist and don't judge before you try it.It is a great little application and does what I want it to do and should do for many other people. Thu 01 Oct 2009 12:10:24 GMT+1 D http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=73#comment41 This post has been Removed Thu 01 Oct 2009 12:05:30 GMT+1 Sid http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=71#comment40 This post has been Removed Thu 01 Oct 2009 11:01:30 GMT+1 madeinnations http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=69#comment39 It's ironic that the company that launched this ad with an anti-1984 ethos should now make all its products in China, today celebrating its commitment to Communist rule. Apple's role as the cheerleader for outsourcing in China will be looked at by historians in the future, curious to know why so many iPhone buyers supposedly cared about the environment and human rights, and then went ahead and bought an Apple product anyway. It has to be one of the greatest triumphs of marketing and PR ever, and the truth behind that ad campaign says it all. Thu 01 Oct 2009 10:46:06 GMT+1 Duncan Williamson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=67#comment38 This post has been Removed Thu 01 Oct 2009 10:13:22 GMT+1 hon3stly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=66#comment37 This post has been Removed Thu 01 Oct 2009 00:55:18 GMT+1 Marc http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=64#comment36 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 22:36:17 GMT+1 Luke1471 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=62#comment35 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 19:10:55 GMT+1 Veeder http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=60#comment34 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 19:05:06 GMT+1 ravenmorpheus2k http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=58#comment33 "28. At 4:43pm on 30 Sep 2009, neilephipps wrote:Ravenmorpheus2KI know life in Blackberry land is getting quieter as the iPhone strips away market share, but surely there must be something to do other than spend everyday posting up to these blogs? ;)"I don't know is there? The night shift on the helpdesk that I work on has always been quite quiet as the company I work for (not RIM but a reseller) supplies BES solutions and the support contracts to go with them as well as the BlackBerry smartphones themselves and we mainly support 9-5ers but do have some 24hr contracts with various police forces.And when one is laid up in bed with a dose of "man-flu" what else is there to do but read and comment on tech blogs? Watch Jeremy Kyle? Wed 30 Sep 2009 18:46:30 GMT+1 mvario http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=57#comment32 doubleTwist isn't "a Silicon Valley start-up", unless there is a Silicon Valley in Oslo, Norway. What I do find ironic, one of the doubleTwist founders, Jon Johansen, achieved his notoriety by creating a DVD application for Linux after he felt the open source operating system was being ignored. Now with his start-up, doubleTwist, they are ignoring Linux, with releases for Mac and Windows only. Come on, Jon! Where is the love? Wed 30 Sep 2009 18:28:10 GMT+1 Duncan Williamson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=55#comment31 Re 20 you have missed much of the point.Language is fluid: yes I agree. What is happening here, though, is that language is being manipulated.In the not so very old days there was a BBC pronunciation unit and a grammar unit and a vocabulary unit and things were standardised. We had the Queen's and BBC English for goodness' sake.Now, the BBC merely issues guidelines over what can be said and when. I asked the BBC and Ofcom what they would do to me/think of me if I went round to their house and sat in their living room at, say 7 pm and started effing and blinding like they are starting to do on BBC 1 now. Of course, they refuse to be drawn but that is what they are doing to you and me. I really do not want any young children to have to listen to swearing and other uncouth language. I reel as they say on Sky, for example, "The following film has been rated as a 12 and it contains strong language" A film classified as suitable for a 12 year old should NEVER contain strong language: this reflects the serious lowering of standards I for one am trying to stop.I have been to parents' evenings where the teachers tell me, like, that things are awesome and amazing. One told me my son should ... find time to chill ...In my previous post I posed the question quis custodiet ... the answer is no one.Moreover, as the untalented are taking over the media, they are keen to be seen to be ultra cool and their language and behaviour follows suit.Do I want to celebrate and empathise the likes of all of these people whose language and behaviour are questionable to say the least: rehab, persistently falling out of nightclubs at 2 am and being photographed as they do so, fighting, divorce and debauchery. Many magazines, newspapers and web sites exist solely to feed some appetites for this kind of thing.I doubt we can stem the flow of the changes in our language that I think are artificial but I am trying my best and I would like to get the debate higher up the order than merely assuming we are trying Canute like to stop the tide.Duncan Wed 30 Sep 2009 17:04:40 GMT+1 Nakomis http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=53#comment30 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 16:54:58 GMT+1 Mark_MWFC http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=51#comment29 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 16:11:59 GMT+1 RevK http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=49#comment28 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 15:51:27 GMT+1 neile http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=48#comment27 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 15:43:35 GMT+1 ravenmorpheus2k http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=46#comment26 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 15:24:15 GMT+1 Jimmy James http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=44#comment25 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 15:08:40 GMT+1 Cameron http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=42#comment24 I bought an iPhone last year and this was my first real dealing with Apple. I have to say the more I deal with them the more I find them controlling and manipulative as a company. I love my iPhone but worked out that the contract and phone in the end will have cost me over £1000 in the end. It's not worth it.They make beautiful and innovative products I can't stand the company. I'm just hoping beyond hope that Nokia pulls their socks up by the time I am due an upgrade. Then I can ditch the iPhone, ditch iTunes and dis-assimilate myself from the Borg... Wed 30 Sep 2009 15:02:38 GMT+1 ravenmorpheus2k http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=41#comment23 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 15:00:58 GMT+1 ravenmorpheus2k http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=39#comment22 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 14:28:02 GMT+1 VinChainSaw http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=37#comment21 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 13:59:00 GMT+1 hon3stly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=35#comment20 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 13:54:04 GMT+1 allabouttowler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=33#comment19 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 13:50:00 GMT+1 Dave Parker http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=32#comment18 Of course Steve Jobs will get it, preventing competition is Apple's strategy.The advert will make no difference, Apple's customers are happy to be drones. Wed 30 Sep 2009 12:21:34 GMT+1 Duncan Williamson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=30#comment17 I agree with everyone here who is denouncing the AmerEnglish from which we are suffering. I refuse to call a film anything other than a film, I don't say I am going to the bathroom when I know I am going to the toilet or even the lavatory. Neither have I ever said I am going to rest in a room that contains a toilet: I much prefer to rest in a room with arm chairs in, such as a lounge or living room or front room as we used to call ours.How about the box office? In the USA, the ticket office at many cinemas really was a box office, ie shed type affair. When did any of us ever go to the Roxy or the Gaumont or the Odeon and buy a ticket from anything other than a normal ticket booth or office? There, thought so.I don't ask if I can get a coffee either because I know that the waitress or waiter will get it for me.Do you live in an apartment here in the UK? Don't think so: go and check the definition in the USA of what an apartment is: you do NOT live in one, on average.The outcome of all of this? Are you reading a novel or other magazine or text emanating from the USA at the moment, or have you done so in the last 5 years? How about 15 years ago? Spot the difference? Because these AmerWannabees think they're so suave by accepting AmerEnglish, we now read books that have not been edited for language: British v American English. This is a gift for publishers as they can write all sorts of slang and appalling grammar (check the average Yank's understand of prepositions, for example) without the need to correct any of it. Publish away and pay nothing extra for it.If ever you complain to the BBC about such matters this will happen:they will assume you're old (ie over 25 years of age)tell you they are catering to a younger audienceThat's true, by the way: try it! Moreover, complain about swearing on television and radio and they say they ask their producers and scriptwriters not to be naughty ... however, when you point out that there is now a lot of swearing before the watershed they say, they ask their producers and scriptwriters not to be naughty ... you will not be listened. Oh! Write to Ofcom too and ask them how they are monitoring and controlling swearing on the television and radio especially vis a vis the watershed and they will tell you that the BBC asks their producers and scriptwriters not to be naughty ... Write back and ask them how they are, then, enforcing the Communications Act of 2003 and you will be roundly ignored. Swear away lads! Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Just wait for the day when all our presenters will speak American English, albeit with an English accent, can mangle any grammar they like and can swear like troopers at any time of day or night without let or hindrance.Duncan Wed 30 Sep 2009 12:18:25 GMT+1 hon3stly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=28#comment16 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 11:58:31 GMT+1 Duellist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=26#comment15 I'll be having a look at this doubletwist thing. It's an interesting statement on the apple policies, and I'll be intrigued to see how it works compared to itunes. (E.g. whether it names the files on the ipod in such a way as to make it bloody hard to get them off again.) Wed 30 Sep 2009 11:50:14 GMT+1 ChrisM http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=24#comment14 Its about time someone took Apple down a peg or two on this. Apples current policies with regard to general openness, DRM and app store submissions are frankly much less consumer friendly than pretty much anyone elses have ever been.By the way BBC much coverage has been given to the iPhone, how about the new HTC HD2, the most powerfull mobile phone yet launched with the new Windows mobile 6.5 and 1Ghz snapdragon processor? No, thought not.. Wed 30 Sep 2009 11:47:13 GMT+1 ravenmorpheus2k http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=23#comment13 This post has been Removed Wed 30 Sep 2009 11:25:11 GMT+1 lordBeddGelert http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2009/09/iconic_apple_ad_gets_doubletwi.html?page=21#comment12 "Oh, by the way. Language is organic. It changes and develops over time. Deal with it." It is just this boorish American cultural imperialism that is so detested by every part of the world. You don't expect the French to 'Deal with it' [what a hideously ill-mannered and ignorant phrase] by not speaking French and adopting American. So please don't expect us to capitulate to your interpretation of language either. I am annoyed beyond belief that Microsoft has the audacity and rudeness to sell a computer in the UK called a 'Media Center' and make it 'default' on Microsoft Outlook to 'correct' [sic] 'organise' to 'organize' so that I have to re-type it. I am half glad that American is becoming a second language in the States behind Spanish. It serves you bloody well right. 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