http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/mobile_drm.html en-gb 30 Tue 22 Dec 2009 01:38:53 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/mobile_drm.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/mobile_drm.html?page=17#comment8 This post has been Removed Wed 09 Sep 2009 03:38:53 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/mobile_drm.html?page=15#comment7 This post has been Removed Mon 08 Dec 2008 09:43:13 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/mobile_drm.html?page=13#comment6 k3ninho - while that's very clever and I'm sure makes a very pertinent point about pointless encryption, it doesn't really boost your chances of a meaninful reply (except from sad gits like me) - for precisely the same reason as DRM is worthwhile: most people just can't be bothered to hack it/break the code.DRM is like a sign saying 'don't walk on the grass'. It doesn't actually stop you from playing football (or finding ways to distribute DRM-protected content). It just suggests that someone somewhere would prefer it if you didn't. Most people will do as the sign/DRM suggests. Wed 22 Oct 2008 11:34:15 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/mobile_drm.html?page=11#comment5 My N95 8GB has OMA DRM 2, but the IPlayer downloads do not work (according to the forums they do not work for any N95 user). Why is this and when will it be fixed? Sun 19 Oct 2008 22:15:07 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/mobile_drm.html?page=8#comment4 k3ninho - Genius! Wed 15 Oct 2008 12:12:52 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/mobile_drm.html?page=6#comment3 My comments are enclosed in the following DRM scheme: ROT13 encryption from http://www.retards.org/projects/rot13/.The copyright license for use of this comment precludes your decryption of the comment below for purposes other than adding it to the commentary of the BBC weblogs page it was submitted to.Begin:V snvy gb frr gur arrq sbe QEZ va ybj-dhnyvgl svyrf fhpu nf jbhyq or hfrq ba zbovyr cubar cyngsbezf. Ab cubar unf n fperra lrg gb nccerpvngr rira 720c UQ zbivrf, naq srj unir gur cebprffvat cbjre gb eraqre ZCRT2 be ZCRT4 ng gung erfbyhgvba. Fb gurer'f ab erny ybff va grezf bs pbafhzre rkcrevrapr vs gur qvtvgny svyrf fubja ba na A96 ner genafsreerq nebhaq gur vagrearg. Gurer vfa'g n zvffrq fnyr bs n QIQ be n Oyh-Enl orpnhfr gurl ner fb zhpu orggre dhnyvgl. Naq gur OOP vfa'g tbvat gb fgneg punetvat na nqqvgvbany yvprafvat srr bire gur bar nyernql cnvq. Fb jul hfr QEZ?Gurer'f nabgure zber-vzcbegnag dhrfgvba nobhg QEZ: V'ir tvira lbh gur xrl naq gur ybpxrq-hc pbagrag. Fb jul ner crbcyr pbasbhaqrq vagb oryvrivat gung guvf fbzr xvaq bs cebgrpgvba ntnvafg fb-pnyyrq abg crezvggrq' hfrf bs gur ybpxrq-hc pbagrag?Abgr gung, vs lbh'er ernqvat guvf, V pna'g abj fgbc lbh sebz cbfgvat hc gur bevtvany irefvba bs guvf grkg. Wed 15 Oct 2008 11:27:59 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/mobile_drm.html?page=4#comment2 What's interesting to me is the fact that rights holders insist on DRM for mobile devices - but not for "fixed" devices.FreeView and Satellite are DRM free. Most of the PVRs on the market will allow me to record SD or HD material and place shift it. From there, if I really want, I can make it mobile.The BBC has been very vocal about not having encryption on mainstream broadcasts. It allows multiple manufacturers to create receivers without having to pay huge licensing fees. Something not possible with DRM.But this doesn't happen on mobile. Why?From a technical perspective, the BBC could make 320*240 3GP files available which would play on every phone. But then, people could share content for free and - so the argument goes - rights holders would lose money.Except... Is there any evidence that happens? I'll bet that everyone has borrowed a VHS or DVD recorded from an off-air source. What's the difference with digital content?A DVD recorded from FreeView will be higher quality and - presumably - more valuable than a low-resolution copy for mobile. But there are no restrictions on DVD recorders.Is it a case that rights-holders need to be shown that there's more value in making things DRM free - cheaper to make the content available, wider distribution, fewer technical problems - and that DRM is very easy to break?Or is there something else at work here?T Wed 15 Oct 2008 09:49:05 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/mobile_drm.html?page=2#comment1 I don't think even the BBC could get Apple to adopt OMA DRM 2, I would't hold your breath.As a fellow iPhone owner I would dearly love to see it but as even Adobe can't get Apple to include Flash I think it's a none starter. Tue 14 Oct 2008 09:07:16 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/mobile_drm.html?page=0#comment0 I assume you are talking to Apple to get them to agree to use this drm so other iphone users like me can benefit? Mon 13 Oct 2008 12:58:26 GMT+1