http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html en-gb 30 Fri 18 Dec 2009 07:46:29 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=18#comment11 Love the new design having lived with it for a while now. I think if you're going to name and shame the copycats you should also cite your own influences though. It reminded me in particular of a successful but short-lived aol.com homepage design of some years ago - personalised widgets and all. This was in the day before deciding they needed to look exactly like Yahoo. The clock is certainly quirky - was this the same designer who snuck the '11' on the iPlayer volume slider by them? :-)Interestingly I think aol abandoned many of the personalisation features after analysing the data and discovering nobody bothered to use it much beyond entering their postcode. Perhaps habits have changed. Sat 05 Jul 2008 20:50:43 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=16#comment10 upyourego: do you see the big box (with the 4 tabs) on the left or on the right side?If I switch from the Int version to the UK version, the box stays on the left.I think it is only for real UK citizens who select the 'UK version' option who have the box on the right, or am I wrong?Still, I think it's a bit double. I can't watch a 5 second news clip on the BBC website because I am not in the right area, but I CAN use the BBC's whole (and expensive) design on a commercial website without mentioning the BBC made it? Doesn't really make sense to me.. Tue 17 Jun 2008 16:14:14 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=15#comment9 It’s a really interesting point you’ve made - this is more about the BBC’s influence than someone just ripping the corporation off - I hadn’t thought of it that way but it does have precedent.I’ve been working in new media for all of my adult life (about ten years) and one thing I used to hear a lot (I’ve now jumped ship from interface design and moved to work for BBC Local as a New Media Journalist) was “how does the BBC do it”.In fact it wasn’t until the BBC started moving pages to 800px wide that others followed - especially those of us working for companies specialising in design for finance businesses, trust companies and government agencies.A publicly available code library from the BBC would be impressive and .. again influential. Tue 17 Jun 2008 15:49:01 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=13#comment8 FredericBelgium - the version in the second screenshot is the UK version of the homepage.I'm guessing you see the International version which looks slightly different and I believe includes a left hand box. Tue 17 Jun 2008 15:48:28 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=11#comment7 I think it's great that the publicly funded BBC should have an open source attitude to its' code. But I'm sure the good people of Hungry don't pay their licence fees so why should they be allowed to plagerise the BBC?Also, if the BBC is happy for others to use its' code, it should adopt some standard creative commons or open source licence around it, which would usually involve crediting the author and restricting the way they use the code. I think that until this is implemented the BBC should certinly prosecute companies which have infringed their copyright. Tue 17 Jun 2008 15:28:08 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=10#comment6 very interesting, just 2 questions:*So it's ok the (shamelessly) copy-paste source code from the BBC website and use it or will the BBC take actions against this website?*In the second image, I noticed you moved the 'big box' (with a The Apprentice-ad in it) to the right. Could you tell me how to do that because it seems I can only move the small boxes (news, sport, ..) but not the big one! Tue 17 Jun 2008 14:41:05 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=8#comment5 @2, 3Chris entered some HTML not in the comment whitelist, so it was removed. Newlines were left in though, hence the big gap. Tue 17 Jun 2008 14:33:52 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=6#comment4 Thanks Nick,I hadn't managed to catch the BBC's response on that matter when that news broke.I am a strong believer in open sourceand public licences. Knowing now the BBC's actual response (opposed to the tabloid version), you can consider my first post retracted. Tue 17 Jun 2008 14:11:48 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=5#comment3 Mattcopp: regarding Dr Who knitting patterns. The action taken was the responsibility of BBC Worldwide, the commercial arm of the BBC.For further explanation see this comment by them on the Open Rights Group blog:http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/05/08/bbc-removes-doctor-who-fans-knitting-patterns-from-the-web/#comment-163774Nick Reynolds (editor, BBC Internet blog) Tue 17 Jun 2008 13:16:41 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=3#comment2 That's a pity - it looks like a filter for HTML or somesuch gimgaw has removed half of chriskeene's post at #2. The desription of Little Ilford in the metatags is "bbc.co.uk offers a varied range of sites including news, sport, community, education, children's, and lifestyle sites, with TV programme support, TV and radio on demand via BBC iPlayer, and easy to use web search from the BBC." and the keywords are "BBC, bbc.co.uk, Search, British Broadcasting Corporation, BBC iPlayer, BBCi".Alan Connor, BBC Internet Blog. Tue 17 Jun 2008 12:58:29 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=1#comment1 Brilliant. Little Ilford School has the following metatags at the top of their html:Interesting keywords for a school. Tue 17 Jun 2008 12:32:33 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bad_artists_imitate_good_artis.html?page=0#comment0 I understand this is different departments and everything, and this post is your opinion.But what is the difference between an organisation clearly ripping off and profiting from your website.And a woman who creatively makes wool versions of Dr Who characters for fun?I'm sure you can understand it will appear to the general public, as if you have drawn a line, and you are on the wrong side of it. Tue 17 Jun 2008 11:40:25 GMT+1