http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/06/visualising_radio_phase_two.html en-gb 30 Tue 22 Dec 2009 19:11:54 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/06/visualising_radio_phase_two.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/06/visualising_radio_phase_two.html?page=17#comment6 What about DAB+?I gather the rest of Europe is not bothering with DAB & are going to use DAB+.Have we opted for the wrong format?Will we have to go through this all over again at some point in the near future? Fri 03 Jul 2009 15:35:37 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/06/visualising_radio_phase_two.html?page=14#comment5 To some degree, I have to agree with the above comments. Webcams in radio studios have been around for years. I've always known that they're there, but I don't care to look at these people. I want to listen to them.However, that doesn't mean there shouldn't be any visual element. I like a lot of the visual stuff you're working on, like Twitter feeds and texts. I'd love to see what other listeners are talking about, which can't necessarily be mentioned on air (due to time restrictions more than anything else). It would make it much more interactive. I'd also like to see this translated to TV. Any chance of a Twitter/text feed on the Freeview Red Button? I realise the bandwidth might be too much though.Also, if you must include pictures, keep it to stills. Album artwork or something relevant to the discussion could be very complimentary. Watching people talk is not so.(I actually quite dislike the Freeview radio interface. A permanent 'now playing' would go a long way to making it better!) Wed 01 Jul 2009 10:08:45 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/06/visualising_radio_phase_two.html?page=11#comment4 #2. At 09:16am on 29 Jun 2009, fernihough wrote:"All this means is:"A lot of people listen to the radio while sat on the computer which means they are using the screen as an interface for a computer". It does not follow that people want to see other people sat at desks in a studio."Well said, spot on, I really do wish the BBC would stop trying to reinvent the wheel, people who want to access 'radio with pictures' can watch that other 'wheel' called television...On a wider issue about visualising via the digital platform, radio is special because there are no pictures, it's often said that the charters in the Archers (for example, and indeed any radio drama) are different to every listener because everyone's imagination is different, indeed there are some who refuse to - knowingly - look at pictures of the cast because to do so might destroy the mental image that they have built up over the years, for these people if 'visualisations' started to be used on such platforms you would actually be restricting these peoples choice as to how and when they access such programmes. Mon 29 Jun 2009 10:25:14 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/06/visualising_radio_phase_two.html?page=8#comment3 I kinda feel like the only platform that I'd be interested in using this on is my iPhone - then I've got it in my hand and I can really engage, particularily with things like the interactive Moyles polls or sending messages.But it doesn't work on those sorts of platforms :-(Phazer Mon 29 Jun 2009 09:04:45 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/06/visualising_radio_phase_two.html?page=5#comment2 This is technology being developed because its possible/for its own sake.the presence of a screen of some sort is not a reason to start turning it into yet another tv channel.If I want to watch TV, then I watch TV, mostly however I want to listen to intelligent radio while doing something else.There is also the bandwidth issue, my broadband is so marginal that I can't sometimes listen to internet radio at the minimum quality offered, adding pictures will only make things worse, clutter up the internet with more "bells & whistles" content and make contention ratios even worse, for what? Mon 29 Jun 2009 08:46:03 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/06/visualising_radio_phase_two.html?page=2#comment1 I disagree very strongly with the reasoning that:"Over a third of people in the UK listen to digital radio each week and most of these devices have a screen. As a result, people increasingly expect visuals to supplement their listening"All this means is:"A lot of people listen to the radio while sat on the computer which means they are using the screen as an interface for a computer". It does not follow that people want to see other people sat at desks in a studio. Mon 29 Jun 2009 08:16:34 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/06/visualising_radio_phase_two.html?page=0#comment0 I've tried a few of these out and I really dislike them. As was mentioned during the first trial, the differences in the audio mixing between TV and Radio lead to you sitting there watching sound that just doesn't seem to fit with the vision, the sound being very 2D compared to the 3D pictures.It simply creates a thing that is difficult to watch and keeping the thing running - at least on moyles show - appears to disrupt the flow of the actual programme.In addition, I find radio making a strange thing to watch as the people are too busy making sure they're lined up with the mics and pressing buttons and pretending that the little minions who float around aren't there.I think a less is more approach is needed. Yes it can be amusing and mildly distracting to look at the webcams and indeed an updates version of those, perhaps with a simple video webcam or two on the celing would be welcome, but the current setup simply doesn't work. :( Sun 28 Jun 2009 08:53:36 GMT+1