http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/06/microformats_and_rdfa_and_rdf.shtml en-gb 30 Wed 23 Dec 2009 06:46:22 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/06/microformats_and_rdfa_and_rdf.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/06/microformats_and_rdfa_and_rdf.shtml?page=16#comment5 "If someone asks for:* text/html: then give them (X)HTML with Microformats* application/xhtml+xml: then give them XHTML+RDFa* application/rdf+xml: then give them RDF/XML."This would be the most viable option in my opinion.Adam@pheromones.com Wed 10 Jun 2009 09:24:25 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/06/microformats_and_rdfa_and_rdf.shtml?page=13#comment4 @pigsonthewing - yeah we should be using hCard role property. Not sure how we missed doing thatTalent is just a BBC word for cast (as opposed to crew). So Jonathon Ross is talent, as is Terry Wogan, as is Jeremy Clarkson etc. Hopefully we'll have unique IDs for these people soon so we'll be able to give them their own URLs to aggregate their contributions Tue 08 Jul 2008 19:14:02 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/06/microformats_and_rdfa_and_rdf.shtml?page=10#comment3 For drama cast members, you could use hCard's "role" property for the name of the part played, and in all cases for crew roles like "director", "producer" etc.What do you mean by 'talent'? Fri 27 Jun 2008 12:51:02 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/06/microformats_and_rdfa_and_rdf.shtml?page=6#comment2 @daniel We're looking into the conneg stuff for the full rdf. Still skirting round the edges of rdfa trying to get a foothold but we'll probably be asking questions in the usual places (including here). Would application/xhtml+xml 303 to a different url. We've been advised to redirect the rdf information resource to .rdf What would happen for rdfa?@danny We're still using hCard for cast and crew on episode pages. Unfortunately we don't have identifiers for 'talent' so they're not addressable yet. So basically they're fn and not much more. Not very interesting. When it comes to programmes a lot of the views are different cuts of broadcasts, so events, so the loss of hCal is a problem for us. But we're definitely interested in GRDDL for microformatted sitesAre there any London based RDFa meetups to ask dumb questions at? Thu 26 Jun 2008 00:02:44 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/06/microformats_and_rdfa_and_rdf.shtml?page=3#comment1 Hi Michael. Delighted to hear of your general intention of making the (lovely lovely) data available as RDF.Daniel's conneg suggestions sounds good, although it might be a little labour-intensive to set up. (The joy of .htaccess!!).While long-term it'd be great to see some full-blown RDFa deployed.In the interim there may be a low-effort compromise option. If you use just the microformat bits that fit accessibility requirements, the other data could be expressed using a custom GRDDL profile - write the HTML as appropriate, provide the appropriate linkage to an XSLT to flip that over to RDF/XML. Assuming @profiles are in place for the microformat data and the custom additions, net result is that a GRDDL-aware processor (which now includes pretty much all the well-known RDF toolkits) will see the RDF as intended.If you like the sound of this approach, I'd be happy to help myself, though best bet might be to ping the GRDDL mailing list (the WG is now technically defunct, but people are still around with an eye on deployment).http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/http://www.w3.org/TR/grddl-primer/http://dannyayers.com/misc/grddl-reference Wed 25 Jun 2008 16:23:06 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/06/microformats_and_rdfa_and_rdf.shtml?page=0#comment0 Hi Michael,One option would be content negotiation.If someone asks for:* text/html: then give them (X)HTML with Microformats* application/xhtml+xml: then give them XHTML+RDFa* application/rdf+xml: then give them RDF/XML.For testing (I'm sure you know this Michael, but for anyone else reading) this can be fetched for using curl, e.g. using your /programmes system and asking for rdf+xml:curl -H "Accept: application/rdf+xml" http://bbc-programmes.dyndns.org/programmes/b009wxzyI know that your system is capable of Content Negotiation, because if you don't specify then you get text/html. It is definitely possible to achieve this kind of working using OpenLink Virtuoso ( http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/ ).Do you think that Content Negotiation is a possibility Michael? Or might it not be worth it, because essentially it can all be sponged into whatever format of triples anyway?Many thanks and blessings,Daniel--Daniel Lewis* Technology Evangelist at OpenLink Software- OpenLink Software: http://www.openlinksw.com/- My Technology Blog: http://vanirsystems.com/danielsblog Wed 25 Jun 2008 09:57:00 GMT+1