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posted Dec 29, 2007

'Cheated' is the first word that comes to mind.

I wish the media would stop undermining Big Sam and let him get on with his job. Things aren't going his way at the moment but a few years down the line when we're lifting a trophy, this nonsense will be a faint memory.

Big Sam's barmy army!!!! ok

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posted Dec 29, 2007

Were still playing dull long ball football, and were still looking towards 5 very hard fixtures. We'll be lucky to beat Bolton but apart from that i cant see us gettin many - if any points.

He will be gone if we get beat by Stoke!

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posted Dec 29, 2007

We sounded like we played well second half, were we better without Joey "no bail" Barton in team?

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posted Dec 29, 2007

No one should be judged on a result away to Chelsea, especially after the way the linesman gave Chelsea the game.

That said, I am very disappointed that we started with only 1 striker, considering how many first team players Chelsea were missing. This was an ideal opportunity to get at Chelsea, and again we didn't take it. Viduka & Martins should have played together from the beginning IMO.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

media make me so angry...'chelsea win puts further pressure on sam'. we werent expected to win today but since we put in a good performance there has been no added pressure.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

Newcastle fans seriously need a reality check. Perhaps Newcastle's poor performance on the pitch is made worse by the support the players and managers recieve.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

comment by shearwonderland

media make me so angry...'chelsea win puts further pressure on sam'. we werent expected to win today but since we put in a good performance there has been no added pressure.

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Totally with you re: the media. It's yet another report that is totally biased against us. The guy writes twice that Kalou's goal "looked offside".

Hello! It was BLATANTLY offside, no debate about it! These BBC reporters really ought to read their reports through before they publish them...

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posted Dec 29, 2007

ABSOLUTE DISGRACE! thats all i can say i saw the match and he is as u say a mile offside how the linesman cant see that is disgraceful. its such an easy decision to make and hes cost us the game. oh and the fact that the first goal was a handball from kalou before it got to essien.

referee and linesman should be ashamed of themselves!

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posted Dec 29, 2007

Thought we were very unlucky but that's how it goes. Sam and the fans have to pick the team up for Man City's visit on Wednesday.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

LOL...You guys can get Martin Jol maybe...as I read today.

Then you can take our chants if you like.

But for now, I think you guys should support Tottenham Hotspur winkeye

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posted Dec 29, 2007

The media and a sadly high number of so-called fans just love kicking a man when he's down, so expect poor old Sam to receive a right royal battering over the next few days.
Some teams would be proud of losing to Chelsea by only the odd goal in three - good luck Sam and Newcastle.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

The decision for the second goal was so bad that it has deflected attention from the fact that the deflection for the first goal came of the Chelsea player's hand.

It still doesn't change anything with Sam though. Today was a good performance, but even then he shot us in the foot by taking off Martins when we were on top and Martins was causing trouble.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

Sacking the gaffer for an away loss to Chelsea (and a tainted one at that) isn't the answer; is anyone asking if Sir Alex should get the sack for Man Utd's embarassing away loss to West Ham? Of course not. Perhaps with a bit more courage in the attack the result would have been different - unfortunately the lads fell in the trap of trying to defend a result and were burnt. With Owen coming back at the start of the second half of the season perhaps our fortune will improve.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

I agree with shearwonderland, the 'increased pressure' is a bit of a cheap shot to say the least. Yeah, we've lost a point we probably should have had but regardless of our recent form, we'd have taken 1-1 any day of the week, unlucky to lose it in the way that we did!

This result shouldn't put Sam under pressure, seems he's made a lot of changes... again... and we need to look to scrapping for as many points in the next few fixtures as possible - regardless of what the media say if we can give Chelsea something to worry about then we can build on it and hopefully take points from City at St James'.

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comment by Giles (U7878208)

posted Dec 29, 2007

Kalou was miles offside, but Chelsea deserved the win - 11 shots on target to Newcastle's 2 - they were the better side.
I think Allardyce should stay - Newcastle looked better at Stamford Bridge than they have in ages - 6 more minutes and it would have been a draw.
But why did he take off Martins? I had kittens every time he touched the ball, and was confident you wouldn't score without him.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

Is it just me who sees the irony that "MartinJol" says that Toon fans need a reality check? Wasn't Jol sacked after finishing 5th twice in a row?

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posted Dec 29, 2007

comment by Rangaman
posted Just Now

Kalou was miles offside, but Chelsea deserved the win - 11 shots on target to Newcastle's 2 - they were the better side.
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not sure i entirely agree with you there... Chelsea were easily the better team but not sure we deserved the win. Given made some excellent saves and maybe it should have been a draw because of his saves.
By the way I'm a Chelsea supporter so I'm not trying to be biased.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

City fan here
From attacks on goal the result actually flatters Newcastle but in terms of guts Newcastle showed a lot. The second 'goal' - well I would be interested to see how the linesman could explain that away. It wasn't a close or debatable call it was either pure incompetence or something much worse. No way fat sam's job should be called into question on daylight robbery like that. Robbery seems to light a word for that decsion.
Hope it doesn't rebound on us next match we have more than pour fair share of rough decisions.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

I am a French soccer fan who happened to see the chelsea/ Newcastle game. Newcastle pointlessly played a ugly longball game for the most part. Forget about how you were robbed on the offside call, Newcastle did not really play well enough to win or tie. Allardice has to suggest something new.

What is the deal with Nzogbia at left back ?
He is a promising offensively-astute midfielder/winger not a left back.
You have no one better at left back ? seriously?
Offensively, he was ok but forced to play low-percentage long balls. When he got close, like on the Newcastle goal sequence he did much better. Allardice should keep him up there. Otherwise, you would favour Milner Smith ? Again, seriously ?
They did nothing creative.
Defensively, SWP stole Nzogbia's lunch money all game long. No wonder this guy has become a marginal element in the France youth team. He is way way way out of position and probably short on confidence.

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comment by Les (U9362143)

posted Dec 29, 2007

I have'nt seen the winning goal so can't comment but when a team is struggling these sort of things just seem to go against you.Think or like to think over a season things even out so here's hoping we get one or two offside goals in our favour!!smiley

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comment by Brian (U9052475)

posted Dec 29, 2007

How offside can a player be? A disgrace of a decision. Deserved a point today but really apart from a good 20 min period when we got the goal we were awful. None of our players can pass the ball,who wants to watch a team with smith,butt and faye in center midfield. If he does'nt get some good creative midfielders in January then get rid of him. Even Bolton had Okocha,come on sam,would'nt be too bad if we were getting results but losing and playing boring football is infuriating

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posted Dec 29, 2007

Guythegood, you are obviously not familiar with the genius of our English managers such as Sam Allardyce.

N'Zogbia has played left back most of the season so that we can play a right winger in his left wing position. The reason that we play the right winger there is so that we can play a central midfielder in the right wing position. The reason that we do that is so that we can play a striker in the central midfield position. I hope that that's clear now.

It is great English management like that which will ensure that we will storm to triumph in Euro 2008 ... Doh!

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comment by thebueg (U7285549)

posted Dec 29, 2007

Alex Fergus made a very important point when he said since he has been at Man U we have had 15 managers.
Successful clubs need and have periods of stability.
Lets get behind SAM and the players and give them time to improve and form into a better and therefore more successful team.
Just because Newcastle have a wonderful and large loyal fan base and we tend to think that success should be automatic, it is not.
Success is achieved with hard work and years of determination and planning, we always want the shortcut to success that is never there.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

yes we were close...but its still bloody ugly as hell...and in the end we didnt get anything...as fan if i have to watch this ugly football at least i want a point but this is hopeless the manager is a dinosur..his tactics are hopeless he makes roeder and souness loke like genuises..please leave this ground big sham we had enough

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posted Dec 29, 2007

les_said

Sorry to burst your bubble but we are not struggling. Yes, we should be doing better and have dropped points very poorly but no way are we struggling.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

sometimes descisions go in favour of you and sometimes it dosnt...we were unfortunate today but then again we got a wery doubtful penalty against fulham.....truth is were are not good enough we are playing for a draw its awful lets go back to the kk days - at least let us lose with dignity

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comment by KWEKU1 (U6690811)

posted Dec 29, 2007

When Essien plays well, Chelsea is solid in midfield. The 'offside' decision? I couldn't comment on it. Chelsea played by far better; and if that's anything to go by, then Chelsea deserved victory.
Let's not talk about a depleted Chelse side. I think Grant might not be the man. Sometimes, he lacks tactics.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

i know this is entirely out of order to newcastle fans but this only evens out teh goal kalour got robbed off him against blackburn... sumwhere down the line this season newcastle will get a dodgy decision go their way... as for big sam i think it would be silly if he got sacked this early - should be given till the end of the season at least

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posted Dec 29, 2007

There is alot of talk about the 'ugly football' but i think this was a problem Allardyce had before he came - everyone did not want him because bolton 'played ugly long ball football' - a perception he had to shift. However, watch Liverpool and they often play long ball, although it's not long ball is it? nooo its 'Long passing aaaand its beautiful!!' a lot of differnce there. But a CONSISTENT creative midfileder in the team - Emre performs when he wants - and we'll be fine!

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posted Dec 29, 2007

Is it just me or do Chelsea get some unbelievalble decisions... Todays offside, many against Villa, Penalty against Liverpool... the list goes on, is Roman spending his money on refs n linesmen??

They get far too many ridiculous decisions in their favour... or is it just my imagination?

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posted Dec 29, 2007

newcastle deserved a point, just as villa deserved three last week. don't care if give made some good saves...we deserved a point! if ashley sacks sam after this result he's mad.

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posted Dec 29, 2007

Give him some time... Only the best managers in the world come to a club and turn results in a very short space of time... look at what he achivied with bolton... He is one of the best english managers there is.

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posted Dec 30, 2007

We are doing better then last season and the season before that. And surprise surprise, last season we finished in the position we are at the moment. Sam has only been at Newcastle a few months and we have acheived a lot since then.

Give him time!! You need at least a season before you judge a manager. Alex Ferguson had a rough beginning to his time at Man U, but look at them now. Give him 3 seasons, and we will be back as good as we were under Bobby Robson.

We need to buy someone in January. Think of creative midfielders, then email big sam

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posted Dec 30, 2007

I think that performance showed us all that Allardyce is a great manager and that if we stick with him will defintly gain our rewards.

I also agree with amadkiwi0 in saying that we will be as good as we were under Bobby.

So what I'm basically saying is the following:

2007/08 Season: 9th 58 points

2008/09 Season: 5th 66 points

2009/10 Season: 4th 70 points

hopefully a trophy at some point aswell!

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posted Dec 30, 2007

I know that this is a big blow for newcastle , but i think they have to patient. Sam has inherited a really bad team , you know how badly newcastle played last year. This year toon fans expect their club to be performing like the villa, blackburn or everton , but it aint gonna happen in just 6 months. I agree that sam has been loads of lame excuses, but he has not got a choice he has been under media scrutiny ever sonce he started. Sam i thhink is a long term sloution for newcastle, give him time till end of this season and definetly next season will a lot better for toon supporters

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posted Dec 30, 2007

comment by davec1234

posted 16 Hours Ago

Is it just me or do Chelsea get some unbelievalble decisions... Todays offside, many against Villa, Penalty against Liverpool... the list goes on, is Roman spending his money on refs n linesmen??

They get far too many ridiculous decisions in their favour... or is it just my imagination?

it is totally your imagination , my friend . Havent utd been lucky to just a scrape a win or two. We duly deserved a second goal in the game , if it didnt come of a poor decision from the linesman, it might have come from essien or balalck , and newcastle defneding is woeful. SO definetly we deserved to win this match , if not fair and squarebiggrin

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comment by MKAndy (U10491300)

posted Dec 30, 2007

We lose away to Chelsea, so Sam Allardyce should get the sack? Please!

Some of our so called supporters make me embarrassed to call myself a Newcastle supporter. Every manager we employ is expected to win every game by a clear margin, and by playing excellent football. We are not Man Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea, we are a middle table, who will not progress out of this plateau we're in unless we back our manager, board and players.

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posted Dec 30, 2007

So what I'm basically saying is the following:

2007/08 Season: 9th 58 points

2008/09 Season: 5th 66 points

2009/10 Season: 4th 70 points

hopefully a trophy at some point aswell!

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A bit optimistic T_Toon but I get your point. I would like Sam to establish us as a 'Top 6' club within the next few years but there are stronger sides in the premiership than us who are ever-improving.

A lot depends on how much money Mike Ashley is willing to pump into the club but he's not going to do it if he thinks the fans are unhappy. He's smart with his money!

Arsenal
Man U
Liverpool
Chelsea
Man City
Everton
Tottenham

I fancy these clubs to be be above us over the next few seasons, it's our job to get back into the next 'lot' (Portsmouth, Aston Villa, West Ham, Blackburn).

The premiership, thanks to big investment has become a very strong league and I honestly believe if we finish around 12th this season, that will be okay.

Of course I'd love European nights again and if anyone's going to take us there it's Allardyce but we are no longer a force in the premiership and the next couple of years is all about rebuilding and making St James a fortress once more. We cannot achieve this long term plan by rioting at every loss and swapping managers, foresight is required for success and I believe Sam has it.

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posted Dec 30, 2007

Why can't the media leave Sam alone? It seems that they are fuelling all sorts of needless speculation-it unsettles everyone and is totally negative. He needs that fans to get behind him and allow him to build a team of his own. Frankly some of the current team are useless and overpaid. He needs to get rid of the dead wood and bring in some players with a bit of backbone. Give him two seasons and then see where we are. It's always the same at Newcastle, the board say they will give the manager time to improve the team and then sack them after a few bad results.

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comment by James (U10170255)

posted Dec 30, 2007

He doesn't deserve to be sacked after that performance, Toon were robbed and deserved a point. But if these results continue, he has to go.

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posted Dec 30, 2007

"Is it just me or do Chelsea get some unbelievalble decisions... Todays offside, many against Villa, Penalty against Liverpool... the list goes on"

Yes, definitely you.

Care to cite the "many against Villa", or can't you, because you can't back it up? Would you be thinking of the penalty which Chelsea conceded - and the sending off of Ashley Cole - which was shown to be totally wrong by tv replays?

The 2nd goal yesterday was miles offside, but there wasn't anything like the amount of publicity about the decision when Kalou scored a perfectly good goal in the 0-0 against Blackburn, which was then inexcusably ruled offside.

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posted Dec 30, 2007

Unfortunately, Big Sam can do no right unless Newcastle can put together a winning run playing the style of football they played under Kevin Keegan. Can't see that happening anytime soon.

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posted Dec 30, 2007

We were lucky to come against a Chelsea 2nd XI having an off-day, thats what made us look OK for spells in the second half. OK we were unlucky on their winner but for those on this board who think NUFC fans should get real I think we could have gone behind several times earlier. The defense was as bad as ever - SACK SAM SOON

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posted Dec 30, 2007

Seems people always remember the decisions that go Chelsea's way but keen to forget the one's against us. Apart from the one's already mentioned, what about the match at Old Trafford that was handed to the reds by the ref. Mikel's sending off was a joke. Tevez's goal whilst being a well taken effort was scored two minutes after the two minutes of extra time was up with no incident to warrant any extra & to rub salt into the wounds Saha conned the ref for the penalty.
Whilst feeling some sympathy with Newcastle for Kalou's winner, as i was right in line with the incident & amazed it was allowed, Newcastle should have been dead & buried before they equalised anyway.
No doubt Newcastle will get a dodgy decision in their favour, at someone else's expense in the future & I don't think Big Sam will complain then.

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posted Dec 30, 2007

Until the offside rule reverts to the one of old, there will always be confusion. Some players are inadvertantly caught up in the interpretation, such as was ths case with Kalou in the Chelsea - Newcastle match whilst others, such as van Nistlroy, when he was with ManU, took advantage and got decisions in his favour. All we await now is or a team to show that they are technically taking advantage of the current offside rule. The definition of a "player not interferring with play" must be examined because currently, it only suits the offensive player. In football, defences are positioned and move according to the position of the opposition. If a defensive player moves, it is invariably because an opposing attacking player has moved as well. If the attacking player is no longer deemed to be interferring with play, this could nullify strategies such as the offside trap beacause the ball will not go to the player considered to be offside by the defense. Has play not been interferred with?? There are countless cases where no consideration is made of interpetation of the offside rule on the defensive players.

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comment by Pisces (U10274403)

posted Dec 30, 2007

Calling the linesman "blind" only trivializes a serious problem in the game. Yes, this linesman should never be permitted to be part of an important football game again. However, that does not cure the real problem. Going forward we must do one of two things:

(1) Get rid of the off-side rule,
OR
(2) Immediately introduce instant
re-play to the game so that human
blunders like this can be
corrected after a quick review.
UNLESS:
(3) You got a better idea????

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posted Dec 30, 2007

Saintigs, your talking commonsense here, which is why it will probably never happen.
A perfect example was Reyes disallowed goal for Arsenal against Chelsea a few years ago. The pudits (and Arsenal) claimed it was a perfectly good goal as Henry, whilst in an offside position himself did not interfere with play. However I cannot believe that Cech & Terry did not have one eye on Thierry Henry rampaging through the middle, frantically wave for a pass & therefore involved in the play.
The whole thing is such a grey area, the old rule would remove such contentious issue's

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posted Dec 30, 2007

Big names like chelsea always get decisions to go their way especially at home. I think people should give Big Sam a break as we were not expected to win against chelsea anyway. People should get behind Big Sam and not put pressure on him and the team this is the main reason we are not succeeding.

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