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posted Dec 10, 2007

Really nice piece Ben!! Ricky did his best but he was a massive underdog even if the bookies didnt agree!! I think we all got a bit carried away with the pre fight build up and maybe even ricky did as well, but sod it thats britain for you and we loved every minute of it.....who are ya, who are ya, lol!!!

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comment by hubare (U2971645)

posted Dec 10, 2007

If there's any silver lining to be drawn from the weekend's boxing, is that - regardless of the result - we still have two world class boxers, and with the "Undefeated" moniker removed from Hatton's title - he doesn't have it hanging over his head every time he enters the ring. Calzaghe's fight with Hopkins, and Hatton's next fight (whoever it's against) promise to be explosive!

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Great article Dirsy and thanks for all the updates throughout the week - loved every minute of it.

As for Hatton, there's no shame in losing to a guy who will go down as the best fighter around. Mayweather knew exactly how to handle Hatton and stuck to his task very well in the face of some very tough pressure from Hatton. It was a shame to see it end the way it did with Ricky on the canvas but he did a terrific job and he can have no shame in the way he performed. Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and say yes he was too good, but boy he did the nation proud and we salute you Ricky. There's very few fighters who worried Mayweather like you did.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Hatton done well but Mayweather just oozed class. I'm not being smart after the event because i won a few quid on the fight. Ricky has a big heart but he should stick to junior welter weight.

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comment by Simon (U1007072)

posted Dec 10, 2007

I felt a bit gutted to have paid my £14.95 to watch Ricky lose.... then my brother called from Vegas airport - he was even more gutted, having spent rather a lot more than me!!
Ricky pretty much did all he could, but Mayweather just oozed class throughout - and surprisingly showed a lot of class in his post fight interview. Gone was the showman act, replaced by someone who knew he'd been in a fight!

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Cracking article Dirsie. Ricky must dust himself down and look forward from here. His honesty and integrity have been an inspiration. Credit to both Hatton and Calzaghe for putting boxing back at the top of the bill in British sport. Ps. Remember travelling in Vietnam with me and Cheggs?

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posted Dec 10, 2007

great fight, but eventually had to admit the better fighter won. all odds were against ricky: height, weight, reach and so it goes on however you would have had a job trying to tell everyone that skived off the morning to cram in to Fibbers in Dubai to watch. shame but enjoyed.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

The morons who followed Hatton to Las Vegas and booed the USA national anthem spoiled the whole show,Hatton was beaten fair and square by a better boxer lets hope the next time he fights his moronic "fans"show more respect to his opponent.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

meant to say earlier; without sounding as though i am sucking up, great article, enjoyed the RWC bloggernaught diary and now to see this last week have enjoyed that too. versatility is a skill.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

i think the noise from the fans was amazing and all credit must go to them, it is traditional to heckle the "bad guy" in boxing and wrestling but to boo during the anthems is out of order in any sport. funny to hear the hatton wonderland song keep breaking out

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Hopefully hattons accountant can remind him that he has gained a few quid as well, so its not all a loss. Congrats to Money Mayweather if he retires now (cause he has nothing to prove) in my eyes is one of the greatest... he has not dodged anyone, 18 or so championships fights, thats just incredible. Cant wait for the next big fight now.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

I've never paid boxing much attention before now but after this I will.

Well done Ricky, the pure grit and determination was fantastic to see!

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comment by youre1m (U4756621)

posted Dec 10, 2007

Couldn't help but feel sorry for Ricky after a few rounds. Bleary eyed and half cut surrounded by fellow optomistic friends in my lounge in the early hours it was no until about the 6th that I started to realise he possibly hadn't won a round in reality.

Cortez should be questioned as to his approach to the fight, why in the first 3 rounds was he so strict to keep the fighters apart which was when Ricky really needed to capitalise. Cortez did everything he could to ensure Mayweather had ample oppurtunity to make use of his reach advantage. I doubt the result would have changed however we may have seen a much closer fight had he taken the approach he took for the last 5 rounds in the first 5.

Still, Ricky, you gave it your all and for that we can be proud of you, it was just too bigger task for you this time.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Nice article Mr Dirs, and cheers for an entertaining week!

Mayweather's pre-fight 'gangsta badboy' hype was just that - hype. Muhammad Ali did just the same didn't he; it's all about bums on seats. Note Mayweather's touchingly really quite loving behaviour in the ring immediately after the fight - lauding our boy and introducing Hatton to his family. I know most fights end with a degree of magnanimity, but this was a bit different.
Mayweather's a good guy and 30 years from now people will be mentioning him in the same breath as Robinson, Leonard, Duran et al as the best Welters of all time.

As for big-time boxing on the Beeb! You boys get your fingers too badly burnt with Audrey!
It's a nice thought, but I suspect the licence money coffers will be empty for years to come after Johnny Ross and The Tudors have had their tastes!

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posted Dec 10, 2007

waiting up to watch the fight was well worth it!
i felt so sorry for ricky hatton but he fought it and stuck by wat was best ( standing up for himself)
he did the best he could and i personally thought it was very well!
at least you wernt a sore looser Ricky!
well done xxx

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posted Dec 10, 2007

The morons who followed Hatton to Las Vegas and booed the USA national anthem spoiled the whole show,Hatton was beaten fair and square by a better boxer lets hope the next time he fights his moronic "fans"show more respect to his opponent.

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smartowlsman, you are simply a genius. So precise, yet so correct!! Think I will name my child "smartowlsman".

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posted Dec 10, 2007

I don't think there is anything at all wrong with booing a national anthem, particularly the American one.

The superficial, drug-crazed, capitalist, fame-mad, McDonalds, Gangsta Rap, Hollywood, bomb Iraq and gun down your classmates culture propagated by the United States has sadly infected and corrupted Britain slowly since the 60s and 70s, but has escalated in the past 20 years.

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comment by rjhsteel (U888869)

posted Dec 10, 2007

After all the hype and build up, which i gotta say has been one of the biggest and best in the 20 years i've watched boxing, i'd felt flat on sunday after the result.

Really felt for Hatton after the fight, but Mayweather was too quick, too classy and bigger than the "hitman" and thats that. Talk of a rematch is pointless.

Its a shame because ricky would have become the biggest thing in boxing if he had won.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Yes Subby.

Boo the national anthem of a nation that left 250,000+ of its soldiers dead liberating European soil. Who cares if they spent 40 years and countless billions deterring the Soviets from setting up shop everywhere between Calais and Chukotka. Bloody Yanks.

Some memories are shorter than others it would seem.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

"I don't think there is anything at all wrong with booing a national anthem, particularly the American one.

The superficial, drug-crazed, capitalist, fame-mad, McDonalds, Gangsta Rap, Hollywood, bomb Iraq and gun down your classmates culture propagated by the United States has sadly infected and corrupted Britain slowly since the 60s and 70s, but has escalated in the past 20 years."

Nail on the head! Comments made about the supposed bad behaviour of the english have incensed me. The yanks have allot to answer for!

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Subterreanen,dont agree
mate there's no excuse whatsover for booing another nations national anthem whether it's the American,Swiss,French whatever.Unfortunately the English fans are the worst for booing and it's a pity they didn't conduct themselves like Ricky himself did.I hope for the next Hatton fight fans do respect national anthems though Im not holding my breath.
PS Ricky dont be sorry you did your best Britain is proud of you.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Congratulations to Ricky, he fought with the heart of a lion as always.

But with the greatest respect that was well short of his best boxing effort. He fought with his heart instead of his head. He was too fired up and charged, open chested and with no defence, at Mayweather, who just picked him off at ease. He walked into five six or even seven massive rights.

Of course Mayweather was sensational but I think that he was shocked at how easy it was for him. Mayweather showed more experience and composure not just during the fight but leading up to the fight. Ricky sent in no big body shots, so much so that I thought it must have been a tactic for the first 5 rounds. After 6 he started dropping his guard as he charged in. He looked tired and like he didn't really have a plan against the best boxer in the world.

What I'm saying is that it wasn't the Ricky that we all know, it wasn't the best Ricky and I'm afraid that on the biggest stage, when the whole world was watching, when it could have been his day and his night, he blew it. His instinct as a brawler kicked in and Mayweather took him back to school.

I would have thought that above all, Ricky would be most disappointed that although he tried his best, he didn't give his best. He is definately a class better than his performance would suggest on Sunday.

But Sunday was his chance, his window to show that he, not necessarily is, but could be, the best.

Truthfully I feel that the referee intervened and prevented Ricky from fighting his fight. He stopped Ricky from brawling which in all honesty was his best chance. The punch to the back of the head actually missed. I can't help but think that the crowd booing the national anthem got his back up and he thought hang on, this boys going to brawl not box our boy into submission and bully him with the help of his fans, well I'm not having it. Certainly the referee hindered Ricky.

And certainly, the outcome may have been different. Imagine if Ricky had got in real close for the first three or four rounds and ground Mayweather down. He would undoubtedly have had the upper hand. But instead the referee said no son, get back to your mark and come in from there. He may as well have said here you go Floyd, here he comes, here's your target now hit it.

Mayweather didn't look entirely comfortable in the first 3 rounds. Whilst Ricky was trying to get in and brawl he didn't Mayweather didn't look great. But the refereed put a stop to that.

Anyhow all is not lost.
Ali lost fights but people is still considered to be the best. Sugar Ray Leonard lost 3 fights, one to Roberto Duran and people say that Sugar Ray was better than Ali.
Ricky should either go back down to light welter and regain all of the belts that he lost. That was how he made his name and how he became the people's champion.

Or alternatively fight Mayweather again. He needs to get fitter and with a change of attitude and tactics to both training and fighting, he can beat him, I'm sure of it. Hatton is better than Sunday would suggest. Look at Sugar Ray Leonard and Roberto Duran.

Come on Ricky, it's one nil at half time, get him back in there, let's see what Maywether can do at Wembley or in Manchester!

Come on lad, we're still all rooting for you!

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posted Dec 10, 2007

I just want to say that all of your articles have been really insightful and interesting. Also, I empathise with your emotion regarding this fight. I watched the fight in Tokyo and couldnt believe the amount of people out to watch it even here. Truely amazing atmosphere all around the world for a man who can still call himself a legend, Ricky Hatton. He took the fight to Mayweather and he raised the profile of British boxing and was entertaining throughout. He is an amazing guy and although he never won on the night, he will always be a winner because of his personality. I was devastated to see him lose, but proud to see him there. What a fighter, what a legend.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Great article Ben.

It is difficult to believe that National Anthems have any place at sporting events, the Olympics possibly excepted.

TheLoneRangel's comments would ring truer if the singing of the US Anthem was more a celebration of the nation than a
"performance", often by a prima donna/donald who has to read the words, or famously forgets them. Which I suppose proves your point about "some memories" being "shorter than others".

Get National Anthems out of sport.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

national anthems are garbage (apart from the french and italian) sack them all.
as for the booing of the american one - hatton's fans came across as shameless wins the lottery. no need.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

I don't think the result would have been different but Cortez's refereeing blew any chance Hatton had out of the water by the time he'd deducted a point. The picture of a smiling Cortez with his arm around Mayweather at the end of the fight was particularly galling in light of his poor reffing.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

That's a different matter kwinia, and one I agree with.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Subterranean then I assume you would think it is ok for Irish people to boo the English national anthem! Nonsense. There is no excuses for booing any national anthem.

As for Hatton, I think he did himself proud, and felt gutted for him to see him lose.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

did they really have to sing the whole national anthem? id have booed for that alone

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posted Dec 10, 2007

The referee was annoying to watch but it didn't make any difference to the outcome.Hatton was totally outclassed in every department and infact I would go so far as to say had the ref allowed more in fighting it would have ended earlier as Mayweather never missed an opportunity to use his left elbow in Hatton's face.
I bet now Ricky regrets his 'lets be ******* havin him' outburst at the weigh in.From that point the gulf in class visibly grew by the second.No surprise then that the National anthem was boo'ed but where is the respect ..not for your opponent nor the country which he represents but for yourself !
In the aftermath I feel Ricky was very honest and retained his dignity and I applaud him for that. A lesson has been learned along the way.
Talk of a rematch --- I dont think it merits further discussion.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Rematch? no, Ricky is not at the right weight for Floyd. Ricky gave his all and could give it a better go but Mayweather is physically stronger which ricky admitted afterwards
i really think Hatton must fight on at light welterweight, hes sadly just not big enough for Floyd or Oscar, although i admit a fight with Cotto would be great.
hard luck Ricky

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comment by tvbant (U7830834)

posted Dec 10, 2007

Great article Ben, written with passion, nice one - much better than the inane garbage you write about on the cricket and predictable stuff you wrote about on the rugby World Cup!!

You really do have a good job!

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Lone Rangel - I think it is very bad to boo anyone's anthems but ur GCSE level analysis of the historical debt owed by Europe to America needs some work I think...we may have had some benfit from certain actions but their motives were entirely self-serving.

Anyway, unlucky Ricky, u did urself proud but were ultimately outclassed by a fighter who showed just how "great" he is. I under-estimated his strength and character coming ionto the fight, he proved he can be a warrier as well as an artist to hats of to PBF.

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comment by spek10 (U1994749)

posted Dec 10, 2007

While in London last month, I would like to think I was a more respectful and cultured visitor to a foreign country than the goons at the fight Saturday night. Booing the host country's national anthem is crass. If you don't agree with the USA's foreign policy or politics (and who does?) that is your right, but if you feel so strongly about it that you need to boo the national anthem, excercise your right to stay at home. While Vegas appreciates your overvalued pounds, believe me, it will hum along just fine without them. If you can't be nice, watch it on TV. See you in South Africa in 2010 (if you can qualify)...

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Yep...lets blame the US for everything. That's the answer. We can all go home now. ( But at least they can still box).

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posted Dec 10, 2007

comment by germanyfan
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"Yep...lets blame the US for everything. That's the answer. We can all go home now. ( But at least they can still box)."

That one gave me a great laugh - well put. As an American, I can't say the booing really upsets me all that much. I read where it happens quite frequently in Europe between neighboring countries so who cares. It may have been a little more insulting to Americans because so many were impressed by Hatton's demeanor and by the passion of the British fans on our soil, then they hear their athem getting booed in the US and they get upset. 300 million Americans, difficult to stereotype each one (although that doesn't stop many of the Brits on this board from doing so)but I think if the yanks put down the flag for a moment they'd realize it's not that big a deal
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comment by redding (U3920663)

posted Dec 10, 2007

Oi Lone Rangel! Booing a national anthem is an absolute disgrace. Do not try and suggest that there was nothing wrong with the British fans doing it.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Why are we obsessed with gallant losers? Hatton tried to convince us all that he could beat Mayweather, we all bought into it. FMJ didnít even train that hard for this fight yet he brought our best to school and had him in his pocket all night. I feel short changed by Ricky Hatton to be honest.

I also feel let down by the fans who booed the US national anthem too. Iím ashamed they are from the same country as me. Unfortunately the connection will now be made between Hatton and these morons.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

i would love to watch the next ricky hatton fight.i just hope psycologically he has not been damaged by the mayweather loss.after barerra destroyed naz he was never the same again.i predicted a mayweather shut out but ricky never backed down.all heart!

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posted Dec 10, 2007

End the day Hatton beaten shame! English man was talking too much and had good punch of it! Mayweather!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Hatton has no respect on Mayweather! Before fight on conference Hatton swearing on media and Mayweather! Who is going to take a belt??? He he he he. Shame!

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comment by jkeell (U10602239)

posted Dec 10, 2007

"The superficial, drug-crazed, capitalist, fame-mad, McDonalds, Gangsta Rap, Hollywood, bomb Iraq and gun down your classmates culture propagated by the United States has sadly infected and corrupted Britain slowly since the 60s and 70s, but has escalated in the past 20 years."


If you want to add some real meaning and context to your quasi-intellectual commentary you may want to note British colonialism and imperialism, creating the monstrous america that destroys all that is pure and british. Last time i checked Adam Smith was not from New York. Consider for your analysis that the british empire spread disease and capitalism throughout the world and we can get into the thick of british, american, and world problems.

Great fight though, don't worry about the ref, its par for the course in Mayweather fights, I've seen it many times before. I really don't like Mayweather, but the surgical precision with which he disposes of opponents is entertaining to watch.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

I'm astounded people think that booing any national anthem is acceptable behaviour. Where is the traditional British value of respect for others, especially in sporting competition. Anti-Americanism? They've been our most loyal ally for the past century and more!
As for the fight, Mayweather showed us a masterclass in boxing, I think the media raised expectations a bit high on this one.

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comment by Jontay5 (U2080830)

posted Dec 10, 2007

It makes me laugh all this rubbish about mayweather being too brash and he should have shown more charm before the fight, this is boxing, its what happens, have you not heard of muhammed ali? he would have talked hatton down alot more than pretty boy did!
As for fans booing, it is embarrassing for 99% of englishmen, the people who do it are just morons, not the most intelligent people in the world!!

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posted Dec 10, 2007

Read it again Redding.

GCSE history? Maybe. TBH I couldn't care less why the US did what it did then or why it does what it does now.

Simple fact remains that they've dug us out of the mire twice in the last sixty years and get little but sneers and ill-educated rants in return, although I doubt they care very much.

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posted Dec 10, 2007

golfball37 wrote:

"I feel short changed by Ricky Hatton to be honest."

I don't understand this - he gave his best which wasn't good enough. I agree that we like our plucky losers but leave off RH - he lost to a better fighter - how can that leave you feeling short changed - do you not think he suffers more?

"I also feel let down by the fans who booed the US national anthem too. Iím ashamed they are from the same country as me. Unfortunately the connection will now be made between Hatton and these morons."

Totally agree - booing and showing disrespect to another country is very poor.

I also don't understand why people resent America/Americans that much over here. For a country where we pretend to be unique we've got more in common with people around the world, particularly in America. Think Practicing Pete is spot on there.

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comment by Jontay5 (U2080830)

posted Dec 10, 2007

Why does everyone only take the bad things out of american society, every country has bad traits and ours(UK) is certainly no exception, What about the 150 million americans that are not bush voters, the us is a good country in the main, for sure, yeh they have idiots and but bob dylan, jimi hendix, martin luther king, malcolm x, jfk, and millions more, were americans too.
Dont be so bloody narrow minded.
Its pathetic to boo their national anthem , then try to defend it, it would make your forefathers turn in their graves thats for sure

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posted Dec 10, 2007

well done this board, a whole 16 replies before some moron starts with the transatlantic bashing. Forget the main topic, lets do the childish, tabloid-esque, bigoted, US vs UK thing yet again, with 9-11, WWII, and everything else. Reminds me of imdb.com!

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