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NEW SCOTLAND MANAGER ongoing vote!

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posted Nov 30, 2007

From those five I would definately go for Moyes, but doubt very much if he would leave (or be allowed to leave) Everton. BTW, did Roy Aitken go with McLeish to Birmingham, if not, how about the ex-Celt for the job, he was a big part of the Scottish team's success. <ale>

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posted Nov 30, 2007

great comments people, but votes/ratings are needed badly! (p.s i think van gaal is a suitable replacement for souness on my list, i see i have somewhat excluded foreign managers!)

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posted Nov 30, 2007

I've just read that Roy Aitken did go south with Alex McLEish and also that Moyes has ruled himself out of the running. I don't particulary fancy Dalglish, Souness or McGee, however I would take any one of them over ANY foreign manager. In my opinion, and by all acounts, the opinion of most Scottish fans....it has to be a Scot!

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posted Nov 30, 2007

please rate!

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comment by scotbot (U2478811)

posted Nov 30, 2007

"I understand Louis Van Gaal is unemployed."



Isn't he manager of AZ Aalkmar?

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posted Nov 30, 2007

1.colin calderwood (why not?)
2.mark mcghee.
3.craig levein.
4.george burley.
5.jimmy calderwood.

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posted Nov 30, 2007

For experience in world cups and top leagues (Germany England)i would like to put Kevin Keegans name forward, lets not be blinkered he's class.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

Scottish managers that could get the job:

Jimmy Calderwood
Craig Levein
Mark McGhee
George Burley
David Moyes (maybe)
Graeme Souness

Foreign Managers:

Louis Van Gaal
Jaques Santini

Definetly Not:
BILLY DAVIES!!!!!

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comment by aflfan (U7799563)

posted Dec 1, 2007

He is the manager of AZ. It generally helps to know both whether a manager is employed or not and the correct name of the club at which he is employed if you want to discuss footy!

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comment by GaryUSA (U7897153)

posted Dec 1, 2007

Hey Sir Alex is saying he still loves to manage maybe we could persuade him that a less time consuming job would be good for him. All he can say is no.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

1. George Burley. I have an immense amount of respect for the man.
2. Craig Levein. Didn't used to rate him, but just look what he has done at United.
3. Tommy Burns. People don't rate as he always seems to be an assisstant, but I personally think he could do a job.

NOT: BILLY DAVIES OR GRAEME SOUNNESS

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comment by aflfan (U7799563)

posted Dec 1, 2007

oh and if you think van Gaal is a candidate for a nation like Scotland then you may as well go for Mourinho. He can only leave us for England, Spain, Italy, Argentina or Nederland!

Scotland should get Billy Davies - a bright young manager who was very harshly sacked by Derby County and is prepared to give his full commitment to the job.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

I am right behind Jim Jeffries..

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posted Dec 1, 2007

Ferguson or Jim McLean could do the job as part of thier retirement plans.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

England fan in peace (im part scotish, dont mind your side)
Im a bit confused as to why you seem to be ruling out Billy Davies, he is a good solid manager, always commited, and seems to be the only one saying he would take the job with open arms at the moment.
With comparison to other managers mentioned, I think its unlikely Moyes would leave Everton, whats craig leivein all about? I'm not too sure how is managing career is going up in Scotland, but in England he didn't do jack at Leicester, so I would imagine he has a really good reputation in scotland?

IMO, I think someone like Davies would be ideal, or somebody else who knows scottish football inside out. With all respects to the SPL, its not the most glamarous league around, so a foreign coach would struggle (berti vogts) so a scottish coach who has managed in England and Scotland might be ideal, especially one who has proven a sucess (ie, davies)

Calderwood would be a good shout too, doing well at forest (it hurts to say that)

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posted Dec 1, 2007

Joe Jordan is a good shout, if not as manager then certainly as the assistant.
He has a wealth of experience as a player and coach and would bring all those tips he's picked up from 'Arry Redknapp :)

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posted Dec 1, 2007

If Harry Redknapp gets kicked out of Portsmouth for dodgy dealing we should hire him. You can't do transfers when you're a national manager so no worries there and, aside from Moyes who we'd never get, he knocks the rest of your list into touch.

Please don't give us Billy Davies, I'm only just getting back into watching Scotland after Berti Vogts. Don't send us back to fourth seeding!

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comment by Soctty (U3173369)

posted Dec 1, 2007

I've copied this line from Stewart Weir's column in The Mirror yesterday;

"But if some punters are toiling to work out how one club in Birmingham can pay twice as much as a nation, how would they ever get their heads around the 14th best nation in the world taking on the man not good enough for the 20th team in England?"

That's why Davies should get nowhere near Hampden - let alone anything else the SFA can dig up on him?

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posted Dec 1, 2007

There is a lot of hyesterics going on here.

I don't think Davies would take us backwards. He is a good manager, just I think he is too inexperienced.

Big Eck and Walter has been on the go for many more years than Billy and won things.

We need a Jeffries, a Burley, I would even give Tommy Burns or Joe Jordan a shout.

We just need a coach to take us forward, with Davies I just feel we would stagnate a bit.

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comment by Soctty (U3173369)

posted Dec 1, 2007

Sign the Burley petition above!!!

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posted Dec 1, 2007

I feel that he would be another great manager for scotland to take them forward into the world cup!!

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posted Dec 1, 2007

Interesting how Burley gets a lot of backing from the posters here, but is NEVER mentioned by the bookies or so-called journalists "in the know". Only thing against him might be that his family are settled in south of England; he didn't uproot them when was at Hearts.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

Davies' record

Motherwell - sacked

Preston - manufactured a fall out with chairman

Charlton - didn't get the job because at the interview he spoke more about what his package would be if he was sacked

Derby - didn't sign the players he should have during the summer because he was in dispute, negotiating what his package would be if he was sacked

Who is recommending Davies for the job - Craig Brown (who had him as his assistant at Preston, then got a job off Davies at Derby)

Is that the same Craig Brown who thought wee Berti was a good appointment?

WE DON'T WANT DAVIES!

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posted Dec 1, 2007

George Burley for me. He was doing a great job at Hearts under difficult circumstances. Davies hasn't the experience, its pointless giving him the job with Tommy Burns as his number 2 they might as well give Burns the job.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

I think we all know Moyes, Van Gaal are out of our league. But Kenny Dalglish???? Graeme Souness??? No thanks.

We need a manager who has a proven track record and commitment to the job.

Davies or Burley would do nicely. But I think its a bit early to mention Levein. Yes he has done well for Dundee United but maybe not ready for this size of job.

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comment by sdgash (U10554583)

posted Dec 1, 2007

As a Derby fan I have a great deal of respect for both Billy Davies and George Burley.
I think both are credible candidates in many ways. However, both have had problems getting along with their club boards, and I think Davies, in particular, is prone to brinkmanship. Whether he could temper this as an international manager I don't know.
Burley has been around and has been managed at a higher level for longer. However, he appears to have had problems off the field that have impacted on his career.
I don't think there's a great deal between them, but I would go with Davies.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

I think George Burley is a great shout! When he was manager at Hearts, he did a great job, all be it with a bunch of Lithuanian's! But if he can produce great, attacking football with them, then why not give him a blast! We don't have world beaters, but as a team, we are awsome & Burley could make it tick

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posted Dec 1, 2007

Articles about Scotland eg this one about their requirements for a manager, should be confined to north of the border. We are not interested in Scottish stuff down here in England. Thank you.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

capricornEngland

Anytime I see 'capricorn' I think of 'Capricorn One' - about a fake trip to Mars.

Given that most of us have more brains in Mars, why don't you fake off as well !

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posted Dec 1, 2007

England!! lol

The laughing stock of British, nae, European football at the moment.

If you are so "not intrested" then why did you comment?

The fact is that Scotland have far far far more top managers to pick from than England, and I think that is what hurts for the England fans.

So, in short, awa and boil yer heid.

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comment by SM (U1900149)

posted Dec 1, 2007

CapricornEngland: "Articles about Scotland eg this one about their requirements for a manager, should be confined to north of the border. We are not interested in Scottish stuff down here in England. Thank you."

Nobody's forcing you to look at this you stupid idiot so go and mind your own business.


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comment by Soctty (U3173369)

posted Dec 1, 2007

For all those who think Burely is a good shout, sign the petition at

http://www.petitiononline.com/pl4k2905/petition.html

Also forward the link to friends and orums. Wouldn't it be great it we could get a good number on the petition and affect the SFA's thinking?

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comment by aries22 (U1946540)

posted Dec 1, 2007

Apart from the fact that he is Scottish, why does Billy Davies think he is qualified to become the Scotland manager? He did well at Preston and got lucky with Derby, but that was all in the Championship. He was a signal failure in the Premiership and that was because he has little acumen for top-class football or knowledge about the market or what players are out there. His scouting network at Derby was non-existent. What makes his management and analytical skills stand out? He's talking about a 5-year commitment to the job to get youth coaching and set-ups into place etc etc, but he's got no idea. He talks of not having had to play international football to become a national team boss. Well, Arsene Wenger and Sven-Goran Eriksson never played for France and Sweden, but is Davies seriously in the same league as those two? He hasn't got a clue and he wouldn't last 18 months. As did Derby County, Scotland deserve far better than Billy Davies.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

Comment by:sportingknowall

Derby - didn't sign the players he should have during the summer because he was in dispute, negotiating what his package would be if he was sacked.
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If i remember rightly Davies got derby in the premiership and they hadn been in there a long time. Also he did a excellen job get preston in playoffs 2 times in row (once in the final) so davies would be brilliant.

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comment by Kamana (U1657575)

posted Dec 1, 2007

Burley is definitely your best bet. Strachan would be great for Scotland too but I don't see him leaving Celtic. Davies and Souness would be a disaster. For the jocks sake, avoid hiring either of those two!

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posted Dec 1, 2007

Billy Davies or Joe Jordan

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comment by B Munro (U1925545)

posted Dec 1, 2007

It's funny how everyone was saying the Scotland job is important and shouldn't be a stepping stone, yet they seem happy with appointing managers that have achieved nothing like Billy Davies. £3m for Miller shows how clueless he is.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

What about David Moyes? Could you see him leaving EFC though?

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posted Dec 1, 2007

Billy Davies has no European experience
for the Scotland job. If none of our top Scottish managers want to give up club football then I suggest we look to Roy Hodgson to fill the post.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

I would say he is an OK manager in the CCC but come on Scotland as manager nooooooooooo way he is tactically clueless and all he thinks about is No 1 and making sure he sorts out his package in contracts for being sacked..that does not look like a man who sees a bright future for any club or Country...He failed dismally at DCFC after doing the impossible and bringing us up thru the play-offs to the prem, but no sooner did the whistle go after the play-off win he is stating that he did not know if he would be Derby's manager come the new season...no loyalties and i would feel for any Scottsman if he was given the job as manager of your Country. My bet would be on George Burley good tactically and lovely flowing football.

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comment by aries22 (U1946540)

posted Dec 1, 2007

Roy Hodgson's a good shout, but he's English, isn't he? Also, he's just taken a role at Inter Milan after resigning as Finland national coach. I think Gordon Smith has said the next Scotland manager should preferably be Scottish.

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comment by CapnBob (U8920923)

posted Dec 1, 2007

Davies maybe didn't receive the finance support he needed to enable him and Derby to compete in the PL, but one major criticism (and of Craig Brown, our alleged chief scout) was a failure to utilise the Euro market.

Personally, I feel Billy maybe needs to manage another club (a top SPL club) or prove himself in the PL, I think the Scotland job should go to a more experienced man (Strachan) or someone like David Moyes. Even Graeme Souness.

There's no doubting wee Billy's passion/patriotism but he lacks experience at the top level regarding tactics etc.

I was sorry Scotland didn't qualify, a shame that away defeat against Georgia cost them dear in the end.

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posted Dec 1, 2007

Billy Davies wouldn't be a bad appointment. However I think he'd use the job as a stop-gap til his next Premiership move so that's a black-mark already. Dont know who my first choice would be, if anyone George Graham but he's been out the game a while.

Next appointment should be Scottish though <ok>

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comment by Soctty (U3173369)

posted Dec 1, 2007

Go for George Burley. He has the experience, is a fair tactician and wouldn't cost a lot. He's unlikely to be poached by a big club as he's already done very well in the Premiership with Ipswich and no-one has ever taken a chance on him.

I think he's a safe pair of hands which is what we need - we don't need someone to come and and radically shake things up as we're doing pretty well.

Sign up to my petition @

http://www.petitiononline.com/pl4k2905/petition.html

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posted Dec 1, 2007

Billie Davies? ROFLMAO. Talk about a man desperate for a nice cushy number for 5 years. His pleading in the article is close to pathetic.

'Gi'es a job. I can do that!

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comment by AllyB (U2054077)

posted Dec 1, 2007

I'd go for Craig Levein. IMO Billy Davies is a wee fud.

Why would we want someone who has so recently failed as a manager! Derby this season was always going to be a difficult job but he struggled even to get the best out of the players he had.

I hate Smith and McLeish for leaving but they were much better motivators than Davies will ever be!

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posted Dec 2, 2007

pepsi-zero

“If i remember rightly Davies got derby in the premiership and they hadn been in there a long time. Also he did a excellen job get preston in playoffs 2 times in row (once in the final) so davies would be brilliant.”

And where did he leave Derby?

As for his Preston ‘achievements’ next thing you’ll be telling me that the Intertoto Cup is top European competition. Oops, sorry, Davies doesn’t even have experience at that mickey-mouse level.

Talk sense for goodness sake. Davies has virtually no experience at the really top level of domestic football, and none of European football.

As for his signings, he bought Robert Earnshaw then wanted to sell him a matter of weeks later. The only reason he signed Kenny Miller is because he couldn’t get anyone to buy Earnshaw.

£3 million for Miller, £3 million for Earnshaw, add them together and what do you get - £6 million David Nugent. That’s how indecisive Davies is. Just what you need from your international manager.

WalterKiddAteMyHamster is right. He is a fud …

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posted Dec 2, 2007

Thought if chuck in the name colin hendry i know he has virtualy no experince but if england are talking about alan shearer why not us talk about hendry. There is a fantastic team in place that just need someone with passion for the game and who can get the boys right up for a game and who better than big col.

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posted Dec 2, 2007

Yes to Craig Levein, Mark McGhee, John Collins and even Ally McCOist. All young know the current Scottish squad well and significantly have loads of international expereince.
Looking across to the continent we have Van Bastan Donadoni Bilic and recently Klinsmann all ex players enjoying great success - why not adopt the same policy?

Definate no to Billy Davies ( how many caps Billy?) Graeme Souness because nobody really likes him and corrct me if I'm wrong but where exactly is his success at managerial level. Kenny Dalgleish worries more about his golf handicap.
Go with the young dynamic and ambitious - then we can really look forward to South Africa.

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