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comment by Carior (U3271775)

posted Nov 4, 2007

Good on Justin, lets hope he can have a restful and productive off season and come back all guns blazing to build on this for next year and push even harder for those majors and a top 5 berth in the world rankings!

All the best to him and lets hope the progress continues!

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comment by Bronty (U7897400)

posted Nov 4, 2007

Here is a guy who potentially has the golfing world at his feet, and to top it all he comes across as a really genuine fella.

Many congratulations Justin - a truly deserved honour, and just reward for all the hard work.

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posted Nov 4, 2007

Good to see Rose get his just reward for all the hard work.

Keep it up

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posted Nov 4, 2007

Well played Justin But for me this will always be padraigs year

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posted Nov 4, 2007

Harringotn won a major justin didnt .So would you say Justin has had a better year?He choked away the masters with a double-bogey at 17.Not many people remember that .I agree if you say harrington did but he came back and won it

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posted Nov 4, 2007

Harrington only got a chance of redemption at Carnoustie after Sergio lipped his putt at 18. Rose has had his choke moments like most but he did win today and that is what really matters. Player of the year however, Padraig.

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posted Nov 4, 2007

Would you rather a major or an order of merit?

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posted Nov 4, 2007

what about Simon Dyson great year but doesnt appear to be getting the credit.
justin needs a major next year.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

I think Rose's win yesterday will give him the lift needed so he will now really believe he can win a major. As for Dyson, he has had a fantastic year and is improving rapidly.

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comment by Owen (U5944801)

posted Nov 5, 2007

What YOU are seeming to forget, SirBent'son, is that Rose birdied 3 holes consecutively on route to double-bogeying the 17th at Augusta.

He put himself into contention for arguably the most prestigious tournament in golf by sheer brilliance; even Woods himself would have wobbled after such a blistering run.

And you also seem to be forgetting that Harrington himself virtually choked himself out of winning The Open with, yup, a double bogey. Only the capitulation of Garcia saved him from throwing away the title (and possibly saved the rest of his career as Harrington afterwards admitted).

Yes, of course Rose would rather have a major than the Vardon Trophy in his cabinet, but as Harrington has shown this season, one title usually follows the other.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

Let's just say they both had a great year and rose certainly looks the best bet of the english players to win a major.

I agree he seems like a decent chap and we shall see next year how the wannabes such as poulter respond.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

Well done Justin, what a great win!it was edge of the seat stuff, to win the order of merit from only 12 appearences, 11 of which were top ten shows fantastic consistency, time to press on and follow Padraig and win a major next year

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comment by Tim (U9678684)

posted Nov 5, 2007

Well done Justin on a very good year.

It's good to see that he has been able to turn his professional career around, and that the promise he showed so spectacularly as an amateur has not been crushed by the weight of expectation and injury problems.

Of course the European superstar this year was Padraig, but this article is not about him. Is it not possible that they BOTH had a good year?

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posted Nov 5, 2007

To me, Justin is clearly a talented golfer, but has always struck me as one who has gone through his life being happy to be "in the mix", whilst never really winning much. 4 European tour victories in 9 years as pro - hardly the stuff of legends. Maybe Faldo was right - there is not enough pressure to win any more. Had Justin lost in the play-off, he would have won the order of merit without winning a tournament. He overtook Ernie Els - who is hardly a regular competitor on the circuit, and who didn't feel that winning the order of merit was worth getting out of bed for.

I'm glad that a British golfer has done well, but to suggest that winning an order of merit is an automatic guarantee of greatness is somewhat wide of the mark. Montgomerie did what Rose did - with far more in the way of victories - season in, season out over a decade, but never won a major. Faldo, on the other hand, paid little attention to the European Tour when he was in his pomp.

I fear that Justin is just another of these really talented golfers who have the ability and skill to compete and finish high up in the majors, but who lack the bottle and determination to ever win. Give me a Harrington any day of the week. I also fancy Paul Casey to win a major, but not Rose.

I hope I'm wrong, but sadly I doubt it.

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comment by t24b (U6730488)

posted Nov 5, 2007

Why is everyone comparing Rose to Harrington? What is going on? Well done both of them! Harrington has achieved his ultimate dream. But Rose - as the article states - was nowhere this time last year, and has come from nowhere and won the order of merit, a pile of top 10s in the majors, won the Volvo Masters, and will now almost certainly be in the Ryder Cup next year too. Sure, Harrington has won a bigger prize this year, but has Rose not done enough for you for one year???? How much do you need him to do, given where he was this time last year?

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comment by darake (U4328715)

posted Nov 5, 2007

Being Irish and a big fan of Harrington's, I was rooting for him all the way. But once he was out of the picture, I felt Rose deserved it more than anyone. He's played great all year, and I hope that this will give him the confidence boost he needs to go on to better things. He's the ultimate professional. People were knocking him when he was coming close to winning. Now that he wins, they're still knocking him! Seems he just can't win, so to speak. Congratulations to both Rose and Harrington. Both had great seasons, their best yet, and both are a credit to their sport.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

Justin has had a good consistant season. He will now push on for his first major, this will give him the confidence that he can archieve this.

He stated himself that he needs to win a major or two before he can consider being a golfing great. This is a great achievement for him and will build on this. Harrington obviously won the open but Justin has been consistantly the better golfer.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

born in south africa, lives in usa - a handful of appearances in europe in 2007

is anyone but Carter fooled by Order of merit numbers ?

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posted Nov 5, 2007

Terrific performance by all those in the top ten, especially Justin Rose who will be mighty relieved to have got through his customary bout of fourth-round-itis when in contention. Let's hope that all posters are right when they suggest this could be the turbocharge for realising his immense promise.

But although the thrilling finish yesterday gave us a champion who was actually there, earning the title on the course, it would be interesting to learn what ideas the Beeb and correspodents to this site have for spicing up the Volvo Masters.

Volvo is a fabulous sponsor and this should be a wonderful tournament, yet the sight of so many so-called elite golfers going through the motions at Valderama should cause the Tour to do a re-think.

Rejigging the format to:

1).Reduce the number of participants; my suggestion would be top 30 money winners plus tournament winners.

2).Increase first prize to 1M Euros and scale prize money down to a minimum of 10K, maybe even less, giving golfers out of contention a financial incentive.

3).Prestige events (including all stroke-play WGC tournaments) played without a cut seems to turn late rounds into a ceremonial stroll. The paying public, not to mention sponsors and media coverage, deserve better than that. Introduce a cut for the Volvo Masters?

Anyway, congratulations to Justin Rose, and good for all those competitors who gave of their best - as so many so clearly didn't.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

Winning the order of merit does not suddenly mean major wins. Look at monty for proof here.

More importantly. The fact that his mind set is still "If tiger slips up" shows that Justin is not ready to win a major.

This years order of merit has less merit than most i'm afraid.

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comment by Dado (U6366932)

posted Nov 5, 2007

I think he's now our best bet for a British win at a major. One that is long over due. (I don't count Harrington as British)

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posted Nov 5, 2007

I think the fact that he only played 12 events on the tour makes his win even more remarkable - the majors and WGC events count, so what? He still has to perform in them. He played 6 events less than Ernie and 3 less than Harrington, 13 less than Westwood (what does that tell you?)

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posted Nov 5, 2007

Volvo Masters at Valderama is no walk in the park. Well done to Justin. Now he needs to keep that great swing going when the pressure really gets tough, say in a Masters.
Thought I saw him choking on the follow through a few times! Needs to develop a mental strategy for the big pressure moments.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

Rose will probably never win a major, he can't handle the pressure. Yes he won in spain to secure the order of merit, but bar Harrington the field was full of average players and he nearly blew a four stroke lead, His ranking points are for many high finishes (Usually a good final round to bump him up the leader board) I'm not saying he wont, but its unlikely. Maybe a new coach might sort him.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

I think Harrington is Irelands best chance of a major victory next year. (I dont count Rose as Irish)

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posted Nov 5, 2007

It tells you he's behind Ernie and Harrington in world rankings WHICH IS THE BAR you are measured by, your average scoring.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

I think that Simon Dyson and Soren Kjeldsen are having their achievements this week overlooked.

And something else being overlooked is that Richard Johnson (good for him) gained 20 World Ranking points for winning the Nationwide event in California, only three fewer than Dyson and Kjeldsen gained for playing 72 holes in the same score as Justin Rose.

Further amunition for all those who think the WR's can be daft, and for all those who think George O'Grady is even dafter to overlook the impact WR's are having.

After all, no sooner had Ernie rattled on about wheelbarrows of cash being available in Singapore etc than he remarked how many WR points were also up for grabs. Which perversely of course he missed out on.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

Yeh i agree, but he is still quite young, and the volvo doesnt quite match up to a major. Ok he came through a tough squeeze at the end which is commendable to him, but we should let him get on and improve from here. The minute we start predicting he will win a major, it never happens and our expectations are too high. The same happens in all sport that England play.
Good luck Justin, and well played...

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comment by Eewires (U5352372)

posted Nov 5, 2007

Erm,Jimmy the lips, check the rankings. JR is 7th, Harrington 8th.

Actually I think Harrington is still the better all round golfer, but JR has been wonderfully consistent without being spectacular and he has a few years on Els and Harrington so you never know.

But really the rankings and so on are too money centred so that a single win in a big tournament will boost rankings way beyond what they should be.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

All you negative whingers need to look at the facts.I've followed Justins'progress for the last 8 years and he has improved season on season, Particularly since joining the US tour, which by the way for a guy with the start to a career he had was brave indeed.
He has never settled for prize money or and if you visit his website and look at his tour diaries, you will see he is well aware of how he needs to improve his game and how he sets acheivable goals.He is one the most improved players in the world, and will undoubtedly win a major. PS Jimmy the lips.He has passed harrington in the world rankings!!!

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posted Nov 5, 2007

Congrats Justin,being from Ireland I was obiviously hoping that Pauric would win. But hats off to Justin I predict he will make a great Ryder cup player,and will win more then one major.

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posted Nov 5, 2007

Tom Watson was known as a choker for a while,he didnt do too bad did he ? You have to get in the heat to get tough...this is what Justin has been doing. 27 years old...hes got time on his side...Casey, Poulter, Clarke, Westwood , Donald all world class, how come they never get called chokers ? I think Justin might end up stronger mentally than any of those, he reminds me of Faldo's single mindedness far more than any of the other millionairs who seem to love the good life more than Majors

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comment by lennyd (U2126946)

posted Nov 6, 2007

I think Rose is South Africa's next major champion!!

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posted Nov 6, 2007

Have you ever actually watched a tournament played at valderrama?

It's the toughest course in europe so to drop four shots is not that hard to do.

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posted Nov 14, 2007

Just read crockedkens comment..whats he on about ? Peter Aliss born in Germany...English...Justin Rose , South Africa, English too..get real

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