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My patience, gone. Mr Grant please follow!!

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posted Oct 9, 2007

I like you have always thought PG honest and honourable but what really annoyed me in post match interview was how he went on about senior players getting caught offside in first half. Can only really be a reference to Hucks and to basically say he was 'thick' is just not good enough. Fine behind closed doors in the dressing room but not on national telly. How do all the players think as he could be saying this or similar about any of them. Also it is a very fine line between brilliant timing and getting caught offsie and I fremember Ted MacDougall getting caight offside on numerous ocassions but the one time he got it right you would put money on him to score.
No Mr Grant, it is not right to publicly criticise your players if you want and need them to respect you. It is OK for all of us to air our opinions in public but not for anyone in your positions. Your players needed you to have public confidence in them whatever your thoughts and now your players and your club regrettably do not need you, this was a bridge too far in my opinion.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Is Huckerby exempt from following basic football rules that are instilled at approx under 10 level?

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posted Oct 9, 2007

here here essex canary, well said. Far too much public criticism from PG. The fans were criticised, huckerby, mcveigh, cureton...He seems to have a problem with our most dangerous players???

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posted Oct 9, 2007

QPR fan here.

I wouldn't get too disheartened, we played against West Brom like you did against us and got hammered 5-1. I think Peter Grant will get it right given a couple mroe games... I know you probably don't agree.

Gotta say your keeper looked top class, first time I seen him in action and croft looked lively and gave 110% all night, just the sort of player teams like us need at the moment.

Unlucky on last night and good luck for the season ahead.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Croft and marshall were awesome last night. The rest were awful and a disgrace to the club. grant or no grant they have a responsibility not to play like that. I bet he didn't tell them to play that way!

Bruce was there watching Rowan Vine who is one of their players on amonths loan!

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comment by eeeeday (U1987303)

posted Oct 9, 2007

its simple he just isnt doing the right job for our club, regardless of the backing or ability(dorment) that might exist within him, its just not working for us and i only wish our board had the guts, if not the natural orange tan, of the palace board and could be brave to change things when they clearly arent working...

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posted Oct 9, 2007


west brom fan here hope you sort out your problems you deserve to be higher in the table but grant is clutching at straws with his statements he needs to look at what he is doing not his players good luck for the season boing boing .

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posted Oct 9, 2007

My patience too has gone, the guy clearly cannot manage people, look at the way he has failed to keep our best players, and the way he let our best midfielder, Safri, leave for like nothing!

He came in last time all guns blazing ranting about everything and how he wanted to build his own squad, he was backed financially but look who he's brought in... Fotheringham (flop), Brown (flop), Brellier (flop).

The other signings weren't too bad but the guy hasn't a clue. The team hasn't gelled, he has his own squad, there are no excuses, the league table is flattering for us if anything given our appalling displays. If he stays, we go down. Simple as that.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Ok, Peter Grant is the most honest man we've had as a manager for ages and even last night he was saying the right things. But it's not just him, it's the players and his coaching staff. It's a shame we can't sack the players as i would have sacked at least 7 this morning. Our problems don't just lie with the manager. I want him out but we can't afford it. I'm already preparing myself for the worst this season.

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comment by George (U9294337)

posted Oct 9, 2007

Their not playing for him. He wasn't given too much money, hence the signings he has made. THere are a few players not pulling their weight. Peter Grant is no Arsene Wenger, but he isn't a bad manager and i honestly think if the team pull together, you wont be far off playoffs

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posted Oct 9, 2007

I think Grant has misplaced confidence in his coaching abilities. We struggle with the basics, i.e 5-10 yard passes to team mates, does he not notice this in games? Our ball retention is awful, and there is no confidence in the team at the moment, and that surely stems from the manager? Admittedly Grant has had some bad luck with injuries but any XI sent out there should be good enough to compete with the likes of Sheff Wed and QPR yet we were soundly outplayed on both occasions. I think his position has become untenable. Would love to see Paul Jewell at Carrow Road. OTBC!

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comment by TIG2705 (U9337624)

posted Oct 9, 2007

Im an Ipswich fan, and my advice is to keep Grant!! Its great to see u floundering down at the bottom of the table, league 2 next year boys!!!

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posted Oct 9, 2007

TIG - ha ha - I think you will find it will actually be league 1 if we do get relegated. By the way how is the form book at Ipswich at the moment?

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posted Oct 9, 2007

OK - So Grant must go. Any manager that says he is not sure if he actually wants the job must go. When you start saying senior players have let you down then you need to ask yourself the question why?

So where now? League 1 beckons and maybe we need to go down to realise that under Delia all that has happened has been an improvement in the pies. Looking at some of the players last night they seem to be enjoying them also!

Bring back Chase - remember Milan - Munich even Wembley. Only chance of Wembley now is if they introduce a play off for relegation - although I think we would secure the automatic place!


So where do Norwich go from here? Relegation to League 1 thats where. The board must go - since the arrival of a top class chef the pies have got tastier and the ground is pretty.

The team are bereft of any ideas on the pitch. The issue is not a lack of goals - you will never score if you dont create chances or shoot.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

As a neutral, can I just ask what became of Ryan Jarvis? I thought he played for England youth and bagged a few at Orient last year - so why has he not been given a chance?

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comment by djfuller (U897024)

posted Oct 9, 2007

He hasn't had much money, but neither have a lot of clubs in the championship!!

As far as I can tell, he's filled the team with average Championship/league 1 standard players and they've become an average championship/league 1 side.

Something needs to change, the main problem I can see with getting rid of Grant, is who will replace him?

Jewell, Bruce?? -- come on be realistic!!

Warnock, Taylor... -- not really proven that they're good managers.

Ince.. would he come to Norwich?

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comment by TIG2705 (U9337624)

posted Oct 9, 2007

Well wiltscanary not too bad cheers, considerin we have won 8 games in a row at home, and if we win our game in hand we would b up to third in the table!!!

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Home Form book is great thank Wilts- just equalled club record of most consecutive home games without defeat.

I hope you guys survive, rivallry is far less interesting if we're in different divisions......unless town get promoted of course!

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Bruce back at Carrow Road... I can't really think of anything to say that would express the magic that would be.

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comment by Rekmar (U1908790)

posted Oct 9, 2007

Have to say that although Grant has lost Earnie et all, he has bought quality in Stravvy. I saw him play last season whilst on Holiday and the guy is great. Think that with a run in the first team the goals will flow for him.

However Grant has lost the plot entirely. Why o why was Hucks playing up front last night? Why didn't he play him on the wing where he belongs?

With Stravvy and Martin up front from the beginning and Hucks on the wing and with the way Croft was playing I personal think we would have won as QPR didn't handle Stravvy very well at all when he came on.

I've never called for a manager's head before, but I think that Grant has to leave now before we end up in League 1.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

its not the manager its the players if i was the manager id fine them 2 weeks wages because they will u soon be winning

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posted Oct 9, 2007

However with an away record that is nearly as bad as ours you may as well forget any ideas of promotion ;)

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posted Oct 9, 2007

ChadSteele - Ryan Jarvis is currently on loan at Kilmarnock, I agree he deserves a chance, just as good, if not better than Martin who was so poor last night it was shocking. We are missing Safri and a goal scoring midfielder like Damien Francis. Also we need to get rid of Lappin, the worst player I have seen in a Norwich shirt!

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posted Oct 9, 2007

I started supporting Norwich in 1978 but as I have been living abroad for the last 6years would be fair to say I now can only follow them through the media.. I have been keeping up with this season mostly via the BBC. I have read with interest readers comments, who clearly have had first hand experience of what has been going on, on the pitch. I have one observation that perhaps you all may like to comment on. With no disrespect intented to our Scottish brethren. Grant himself a Jock seems to be relying heavily on drawing signing/loan players from the Scottish league.
Is that a good thing?

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Norwich were in the third tier :-( when I started watching them - BUT they were getting crowds comparable wIth or better than today's and playing entertaining football to boot (pun intended). They soon began the upward path however, so when they get relegated perhaps I ought to return to barmy Norfolk and start watching them again :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

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comment by TIG2705 (U9337624)

posted Oct 9, 2007

To be honest i cant really see why any decent manager would want to go to norwich, hardly an attractive club to go to is it!!

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posted Oct 9, 2007

True!
Good luck to you anyway......just as long as we finish above you.

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comment by Nuggets (U7339780)

posted Oct 9, 2007

Well, well, well.

How the "Mighty" have fallen eh? This summer all I heard from you lot is how you would beat Ipswich, push for Play Offs and of course freely stating how devoid and stupid I am for pointing out that Ipswich are the better side.

Now seeing your current predicament I think I can take much satisfication and knowledge on who is the Pride of Anglia and it's certainly not you lot.

Feel free to round up on me in your numbers like on countless other occassions but this time I think it's fair to say you don't have much, if anything, to boast about.

ITFC.

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comment by U9938485

posted Oct 9, 2007

grant should get sacke dbecause norwich lost 1-0 against qpr and it is his fault. norwich need some new players ar they will get relegated.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Nuggetts, what an appropriate name...like the Nuggetts that fall from your backside I presume, because that is all your words amount to, a big pile of said "nuggetts".

A quick comparison for you my Suffolk "friend":

Norwich - own stadium
Ipswich - Don't own stadium

Norwich - 20 million manageable debt (you know the type where your chairman doesn't have to make a crying plea to its creditors every year)
Ipswich - 40 million debt, manageable until your creditors get itchy again....

Norwich - 2 possible big money, club supporting investors interested in taking over the club
Ipswich...well you've got Sheepshanks what else do you need :)

Ipswich - mid table (well done by the way, quite an overachievement)
Norwich - relegation places (but a bit of luck and change of personnel can change a lot)

As for pride of anglia, I think we all have to be brave enough to say well done to colchester on that front. Achieved much more than either of us in last year or so...

So nuggetts, I suggest you go back to your own site, or grow some balls and congratulate Colchester for being pride of Anglia. Nuggett!

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Grant himself a Jock seems to be relying heavily on drawing signing/loan players from the Scottish league.
Is that a good thing?

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No, I have been annoyed by his insistence on this for a long time, with Wenger and France it's ok, France are good at football (contrary to their losses against scotland!). Even with jose and portugal.

But scotland??? wtf?!? We're signing players that aren't even on the fringes of the scotland squad, scotland are hardly world beaters so we have a typical moronic manager who only signs his own nations player, irrelevant of the negative effect on the club.

The results don't surprise me either with the crappy Scottish players filling our team.

And as much as I liked Bryan Gunn, not anymore with his downright ridiculous comments about putting a scottish flag up at CR!

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comment by TIG2705 (U9337624)

posted Oct 9, 2007

Haha well said nugget!!

Whos the pride of anglia, Ipswich Ipswich,
Whos the S**t of anglia, Naarrwich is the name, Naarrwich is the name.....!!!

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comment by TIG2705 (U9337624)

posted Oct 9, 2007

oh hello beached canary. mate look at yourselves - rubbish club, rubbish supporters, rubbish team, rubbish ground!! all norwich is good for is a nice shopping mall!!!

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comment by Nuggets (U7339780)

posted Oct 9, 2007

Beached Canary, it's humourous how one has to go so low to compare financial statuses and not what goes on the football field.

Position: Ipswich, you can clearly see that, I hope.

Players: Again an indication of difference. You have some big name players but seem a little ruffled at this level, perhaps they fare better in League One which is where their minds are set on.

Academy: Clearly Ipswich will quality and quantity being developed despite the financial status, it's also a credit to our side that we are mid-table despite money problems, wait until your parachute payments stop.

History: Dont really need to say much more, it's common knowledge that Norwich has not one anything worth mentioning.

Head to head: Ipswich trump Norwich here as well.

Well look at that for reading, it's evident which club is in a better position, sure you can rant about what goes on behind the scenes and the debt problems so it's credit to our side that they are higher than under-achieving never has-beens who's got the money to improve.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Nuggets - my friend it is great to see you back - how was school today - good I hope - what are we studying now?

Still long time no insult so it is a shame to see that 'pride of anglia' is still the best that you can come up with.

Come on young man you seem to be becoming an educated fellow lets have some originality.

Pride of Anglia - Norwich gave up on that about two seasons ago and really if that is all you are fighting for then your situation is not much better than ours.

Have a great evening one and all - me, I will be going out for a meal with my wife while the tractor boys with nothing better to do come over here and gloat

Just remember 'what goes around comes around'

Have a nice day

AND ALWAYS 'ON THE BALL CITY'

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comment by TIG2705 (U9337624)

posted Oct 9, 2007

R u sure wilts, i thought i was going out for a meal with your wife tonight!! hahaaha!!!

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comment by Nuggets (U7339780)

posted Oct 9, 2007

Wilts - a pleasure you have responded instead of shying away in this dark times for your club.

I do Sixth Form now A Levels and yes I study Media, Sociology, History and English. I hope work went OK today, kept you cool as your workmates made a few jokes about the QPR game?

Of course you gave up on Pride of Anglia judging that you have no point in competeting in something you won't win in. Well, that's got me thinking. Why are you still in the Championship? Don't worry after six months you won't be there much longer.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

TIG2705 - your a card aren't you - blimey your friends must love it when you turn up!!!!!

Nuggets - I can't say anything in our defence excpet it will be at least 8 months of championship football unless your season finishes earlier than anyone elses ;) See how low I am going that slight pettiness is coming in to the equation.

Right it is 5.30 and I am off home. BYE ALL

ON THE BALL CITY

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Why all the Ipswich Town comment. Who cares where we finish in relation to them? Hardly the gold standard are they? If we're doing well, we'll finish above them. If we play like we did yesterday. we'll finish below them and get relegated.

I'M MORE INTERESTED IN LAST NIGHT'S SHOWER OF ****, WHAT ABOUT THAT AND THE 3 GAMES BEFORE IT?? we got rid of Worthy because didn't think we were performing as we should and we needed a change. We got a change and we're way worse off. We don't look like scoring and we're playing the worst football I've ever seen us play.Grant has had a year to mould his own team and to put something together. I'm not a huge stat bloke, but how many times have we out a run together? Only once when we beat Luton toward the end of the season at their place. That started a run which, if we're honest, effectively saved us last season from the drop. It isn't working and thought I don't think its all his fault, he has to take the responsibility and go.

I've never been convinced that a first time manager was the right choice to move us foward.

Let's use the championship break to get someone else in and turn this around before its too late. We continue to play like we did last night we will lose to everyone and be out of it by Christmas - it really is that serious. (Though not as serious as our fans and Town fans actually typing out entries about who has the best ground - that's really scary. Let's leave that to people who became Chelsea fans last year.)

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comment by Nuggets (U7339780)

posted Oct 9, 2007

Yes Wilts, your running out of material. Usually you would be a formidable guy with banter but it seems your club's position has softened you.

I doubt Ipswich will be dragged into the relegation mire, the three places are already taking up with over-rated has-beens slugging out tiring performances to deluded fans already ;).

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Nuggets, bloody hell, just give up man, the only deluded one around here is you for thinking people give a toss what you think :) Over-rated has beens? Coming from an Ipswich fan? To quote a well-used MSN abbreviation, "rofl".

OTBC

PS- Beached Canary, how much did you pay the Beeb to have this thread on their "Grant ponders future" article lol?

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posted Oct 9, 2007

As I said, I don't care what mire you do or don't get dragged into. I only care about my lot at the moment. Unless we end up playing you in the play-off final (not much chance of that at the moment) you're completely irrelevant.

All I would say, is that debating who actually really is the pride of Anglia (doo-dah doo-dah presumably?) is the very reason that we won't get out of the championship and you'll still be making vague allusions to crushing AZ 67 Alkmaar in the UEFA cup final in 81

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comment by Nuggets (U7339780)

posted Oct 9, 2007

Give up? Oh I incredibly doubt that... especially in the position you are in now I think I deserve a bit of playtime.

Seriously though I didn't see your lot avoid coming on Ipswich boards boasting about your promotion and short stint in the Premier League a few seasons ago.

Over-rated has-beens... yes that's right. Look at your squad and I believe them lot define the very word.

And nobody here wants to see your MSN speak thank you vey much, there is a time and a place for all that nonsense.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

"...deserve a bit of playtime..."?

Who/what the hell do you think you are? Grow up.

And this stuff about "[my] lot", I was not on the board at that time, and quite frankly, I don't care. I am not going to accept/claim responsibility for something I was not privy too, and as is well noted by now I'm sick of the bigotry that goes on in football so I can't say I approve of the actions taken by my fellow Norwich fans then in the slightest, just as much as I disapprove of you relishing every opportunity to boost your ego by having a dig at my club, just as much as I do of anyone doing similar to any other club.

And for the record, I'm allowed to quote MSN speak if I bloody well wish, thanks very much, just as you are entitled to act in a manner that you believe to befit yourself (whether anyone disagrees or agrees with you).

OTBC

NB- Apologies to anyone reading this and thinking that I may have gone off the point here with this thread in mind, but I have my principles and I stick by them, and also you may well have guessed I am not in a good mood at the present time what with my club's plight AND the pathetic sniping that ensues.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Grant's gone!!!just readit on City website

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comment by Nuggets (U7339780)

posted Oct 9, 2007

Yes I did say "deserve a bit of playtime" in a joking manner just as you harped on about your MSN dialect.

Oh, I only take digs at your club through "your lots" baiting of me, it happened rather frequently last season especially as I said Ipswich were the Pride of Anglia in my opinuion on a Pride of Anglia board. I listed the reasons, but "your lot" seemed to portray and sense of anger about this and caused them to explode in fits of rage, was rather funny at the time.

You may or may not have been part of that but I was simply talking to Wilts until you weighed in by telling me to shut up rather rudely. Bit over the top don't you think? Or do I, a simple schoolchild, get on your nerves that much? I suggest anger management classes.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

Not me Nuggets, not me. I couldn't care less about the Pride of Anglia or anything similar to this, and don't give me that "simple schoolchild" rubbish- it's clear you have a brain, so don't try and patronise anyone, use it in a manner which befits you rather than look to take unnecessary potshots whenever the opportunity arises, regardless of whether others have acted similarly in the past- you'd be the better man for it.

I apologise if I sound angry, but the simple fact is that I am angry, but not just at you, but the whole business, like I said earlier. I do not like to see my club in turmoil, surely as you wouldn't like to either. Equally, I don't like having people act in an unnecessary manner towards something which matters to me. I did not, as you suggest, "weigh in"; I was playing along but clearly it didn't come across like that, and may I point out that you suggested that every Norwich fan is delusional etc., which, call me picky, happens to be an insult just as much as me telling you to "give up", not rudely shut up as you suggest- there is a distinct difference. I'm making the point that your so-called banter has passed it's sell-by date, and yes, I'm sick of it.

I don't need anger management classes, thanks all the same for your concern (which clearly it wasn't any particular concern, but heck, you know what? I don't actually care)- what I 'need' is for you and everyone else who feels the urge to exploit the misfortunes of others so they can hurl insults, jibes etc. at other, but rather just lay off. The next time you lot fall into any kind of trouble, you won't see me jumping at the opportunity to poke fun, because I don't care what your club is up to if I'm brutally honest. I have one main concern, and that is my club, not anyone else's, hence I can't understand your need to do any different, but equally, I understand that we are different people. As far as I'm concerned, there's never a time nor a place suitable for inciting ill feeling between people, but perhaps you think differently, which, again, is entirely acceptable.

My suggestion to you and anyone else interested is to research "Kant's Categorical Imperative" (no it isn't an alcoholic beverage before anyone asks- it's to do with philosophy). Might enlighten people as to where I'm coming from.

OTBC

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posted Oct 9, 2007

As a townie, I thought Grant's comments were very dignified. He went when results were not very good and held his hands up. Which in this day and age is very refreshing. He gets my respect for the honourable way in which he has acted.

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posted Oct 9, 2007

I thought he'd do well for you after leaving as No.2 from my team [WHUFC].
I was wrong but I agree with Newmarket above & wish him & Norwich [I'm a Stephen Fry fan] well.

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