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Rugby World Cup: Pool A

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comment by bobcom (U9457010)

posted Aug 24, 2007

On recent form i would think SA would top the group, however they are probably more predicable the Eng in the way they play. If BA has a few tricks up his sleeves, and the Eng Backs show any form of creativity i think Eng stand a reasonable chance. To quite simalar teams so difficult to choose between them.

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posted Aug 24, 2007

I'm a kiwi and now I see why people think we have an easy pool!

Man, ...this is the pool of bruises and injuries.

4 physically strong Teams ...I personally think time for serious team rotation is over, but, In this pool I think it would be wise.

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posted Aug 24, 2007

Who says SA are 2nd favorites?!

I think Australia are more likely to take it out than SA.

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posted Aug 24, 2007

Its a shame its so predictable.
Everything hinges on England v South Africa on Sept 14.
Samoa are being touted as the wild card but they aren't going to beat South Africa first up, and England are too tough up front to lose it either.
South Africa and England to qualify, with Samoa, Tonga and US in 3,4,5.

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posted Aug 24, 2007

1. South Africa
2. Samoa
3. England
4. Tonga
5. USA

Even if England do qualify Samoa and Tonga will have injured so many of our players it'll be pointless!

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posted Aug 24, 2007

In reply to WalkingInMud...The bookies say SA are 2nd favourites.

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posted Aug 24, 2007

FANTASTIC ARTICLES!
Wonder if England can spring a surprise but definately, New Zealand and South Africa are the two best sides this year.

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posted Aug 24, 2007

Personally I think it is neck & neck which of England or South Africa win the group. England have clearly improved since Ashton took over, though they still have problems. However, in my view SA are very over-rated. What have they done in recent games?

They edged past Aus 22-19 in Cape Town. Other than that they have either lost or been playing inferior opposition like Samoa in Johannesburg or England with a 3rd string pack.

Australia look much better to me based on recent form.

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posted Aug 24, 2007

It's not by any means beyond the bounds of possibility for England to beat SA, but SA must be the clear favourites.
Similarly, England must be favourites to beat Samoa, but, as we've seen over the last four years, they're quite capable of playing badly enought to lose to just about anyone. Samoa could be a tricky one, particularly as they're sure to have the crowd behind them.

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posted Aug 25, 2007

I've gotta say that I think it's totally ridiculous that SA is rated 2nd to win!

I haven't really look and thought about it but the only reason this maybe so is: possible "paths -i.e. series of oppositions" to the finals.

SA came a MISERABLE last in the tri-nations -not competitive to any stretch of the imagination.

---For me: England vs SA is up in the air ...go England! --maybe even worth a little bet a the TAB.

SA & ENG DEFINITELY top 2 in this pool -any other "maybe" is laughable.

SA is definitely NOT clear favourites!

Go England!

(Go the ABs!)

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posted Aug 25, 2007

Having watched Samoa at edgley last night, they look a very tasty side. It wouldn't surprise me (though great upset me) to see Samoa beat England. If they get some momentum going behind them they're a good side. The one thing I don't think they will be able to compete at is the scrum, so they're at an obviousl disadvantage there, but they've got a very effective line out and in open play are bloody dangerous.

Its all very close. I think a lot of the wordl cup will rest upon our group. Englad SA is one of the crucial game. Who do Australia and Ireland have to play in their groups?

Very interesting WC. Love it.

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posted Aug 25, 2007

It should be between England and SA for the group. SA have played pretty well recently and England inconsistently so SA should be favourites for this group. However, SA don't seem to travel well to the NH. I still remember them coming up here as Trination champs and getting hammered by everybody. Even on their last tour they struggled to beat AR's England. They just seem to struggle up here for some reason. Perhaps it's the altitude ;)
Still think it has to be AB's favourites and Aus second. I find Australia the reverse enigma of NZ. I always look at Aus and think they will bomb. Their side looks 5th strongest at best in the comp yet they always seem to rise to the occasion and get it right in the big games (even if they struggle sometimes with the small ones). Last WC I even had a bet they wouldn't get out of the groups. NZ are the opposite, for me. Always look strong but just lose it when it matters. But probably not this time. Their preparation under GH has been almost perfect. He has them so well prepared it would be a brave man to bet against them. But if somebody will do it it will probably be Australia.

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posted Aug 26, 2007

Can't really gauge too much from SA tri nations performance...we all know they rested a few (blooded other players?)for RWC. Provincial matches are always tough ones...yet they snuffed out Scotland fairly well yesterday.

I think the pressure is on England yet they should account for Samoa...

By the way - can't wait for the the Brown v Bush game...will the yanks be seeing too many stars?

1. SA
2. England
3. Samoa
4. USA
5. Tonga

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posted Aug 26, 2007

Brown vs Bush? I don't think Scotland will play the USA, unless something extraordinary happens in the knockout stages.

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posted Aug 27, 2007

The Mighty US Eagles will send England back to the middle ages, when half of Ashton's team were born. All the fans will go back to supporting soccer when England exit at the group stages and become a 3rd tier rugby nation.

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posted Aug 29, 2007

USA are Olympic champions and will CRUSH the opposition to win your 'World Cup' unless they have to play mighty Italia.

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posted Aug 31, 2007

I don't think ForzaNapole understands rugby

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posted Sep 2, 2007

I belive this is how group A will look

1. South Africa
2. England
3. Samoa
4. Tonga
5. Usa

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posted Sep 5, 2007

This is insane. I guess reading on a UK site should allow some surprizes. This goes back to WalkingInMud. You are crazy. SA are obviously clear favourites for the group. Their second team came third in the Tri Nations! Atleast the second team was competitive. England conceded 100+ points 4 months ago in SA. England will do well to come second in the group!

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posted Sep 6, 2007

Whats the full team for the USA in this world cup? Can anyone tell me all the players names?
Im not tryiny to be funny. I know someone who played for them in the last world cup & just wanted to see if he got picked for this one.

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posted Sep 6, 2007

This group is a somewhat a representation of the RWC in general. A couple of obvious choices to go through and then some doubts as there are a number of sides in the competition that could beat big names on the day. Maybe its because we get so much more coverage and comment but it feels like the competition is more open than before. The pre competition flurry of meaningless try out games between a number key nations have also perhaps added confusion to the debate.

I know I have fallen into the trap of believing that the AB's are the side to beat but I am sure they are not thinking that way. They see their job as having to go out and win the cup...its not theirs yet. All that said, it may be too much to hope for that my beloved England gets to defend the cup in the final...

I will say that I have seen SA play a few times this year mostly on TV but did make the Scotland game through a last minute corporate jolly and was impressed. They had real control and were able to up the pace almost at will. They did this to us during the crazy tour earlier this year in SA and ran NZ close and beat AUS in SA. They have a scary amount of talent and although they have not always been able to produce it as team consistently they can prevent their opposition playing by being very physical and aggressive in defense.

The other team is France... they now have a defense, a very capable pack, strength in depth, some confidence and home advantage...

I am not sure this RWC is the All Black's to lose...

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posted Sep 9, 2007

Were England paying attention to the boks, that thye might undervalue Samoa?

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posted Oct 5, 2007

I love reading all the old comments on this string. Priceless to see how much people thought they new. Tonga being the biggest success story of the group. And anyone who now says South Africa are not 2nd favourite to win the cup is a moron, considering that they look to be headed straight for the final.

Another thing to ponder will be the fact that SA beat the Kiwis once a year and have not beaten them this year yet. Hmmm makes for an interesting final. GO THE BOKS!!!!!

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posted Oct 5, 2007

Yeah SA do look good, but to be honest they've only had to play England who are pretty poor!

I think 2nd favourite might be Australia depending how they perform against England this weekend.

SA got lucky with the draw though - if they don't make the final this time they never will.

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