BBC Home

Explore the BBC

Articles/ all comments

These 14 comments are related to an article called:

Winkelhock gets Spyker drive

Page 1 of 1

comment by U8404012

posted Jul 18, 2007

Well... it looks like it's only going to be one or two grands prix, so if he impresses, that could have an effect on a possible permenant drive, but my bet is still on Christian Klien getting a seat.

I think that it was the right time for Albers to go, as he was uner-performing consistently compared to Sutil, although he is a very good driver, and could have possibly been over-shadowing him. Just look at this...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=54faax6kXyo

He reminds me of Jenson Button, a great talent!

I although think Winkelhock will do good in his first race, but will still be at the back of the field, as he has had so few miles in an F1 car thanks to their testing rules, that said, I hope he does well. Good Luck Markus!!

| complain about this comment

comment by Galahad (U1645165)

posted Jul 18, 2007

I don't think he's all that. Beaten by Giorgio Pantano in German F3 in 2000; backmarker in the DTM; beaten by Kubica in World Series by Renault in 2005.

It'll be tough for him against Sutil.

| complain about this comment

posted Jul 18, 2007

who is he and what is his pedigree? seeing the previous posts, not that great son of previous racing star. think they should have just kept the driver they had or immediately put in the permanent driver. My money is also still on klien

| complain about this comment

comment by Galahad (U1645165)

posted Jul 18, 2007

Sorry, error of fact in my previous post. Herr Winkelhock's career record:

1998: German Formula Konig (2nd)

1999: German FRenault (4th)

2000: FRenault 2000 Eurocup (6th)

2001: German F3 (5th)

2002: German F3 (7th)

2003: F3 Euroseries (4th)

2004: DTM (0 points)

2005: World Series by Renault (3rd)

2006: Midland F1 test driver

With three years of F3 experience, finishing 4th in 2003 has to class as disappointing- he was beaten by Ryan Briscoe, Christian Klien and Olivier Pla, and finished level on points with Alexandre Premat.

In 2005 WSbR season Robert Kubica dominated, with Adrian Valles second.

I stand by my earlier comment that he might have got where he is today slightly more on his name (and ability to attract sponsorship in his native Germany, where his uncle is a legend) than on actual driving ability.

| complain about this comment

posted Jul 18, 2007

Winklehock is a decent enough driver, probably aw good as Albers but no better. He has however got some sponsorship money, albeit not enough for the rest of the season most likely. Expect to see another driver in after the next couple of races.

Klein is most likely (and also the quickest vailable) unless someone like Piquet fancies taking a punt in the Spyker.

Is it just me or are Red bull missing out on the perfect oppertunity to place another of their drivers in F1. I'm sure they could match the money that Spyker would get from Winklehock and the likes of Ammermuller, Buemi, Vettel or Zaugg would benefit greatly from some races.

| complain about this comment

posted Jul 18, 2007

Not familiar with Winkelhock myself, I thought he was younger than 27. Thought I'd read he was rated by somewhere but perhaps mistaken.

| complain about this comment

posted Jul 18, 2007

spyker is a no good car with a average driver klien will be no good if he gets the permanent drive winklehock is fast in practice but when it come to race day it's retirement or it's bottom half klien reputation will go down into the dtm

| complain about this comment

posted Jul 18, 2007

Can anyone tell me if he is any relation to Joachim Winkelhock (used to drive for Volvo in the good ole days of BTCC).

I thought he was his son and not Manfred (unless they're more liberal in Germany than the UK!)

Cheers Guys

| complain about this comment

posted Jul 18, 2007

DC fan-

Don't have a DNA sample and don't want to start yet another conspiracy theory but my understanding is that Joachim is his uncle.

| complain about this comment

posted Jul 18, 2007

Cheers iisgudatspellin. I thought I remembered some mention of relationship but for the life of me couldn't remember.

Ta Muchly

| complain about this comment

posted Jul 19, 2007

It would be wrong to expect to much from Markus because after all he is a rookie. But Spyker's other driver Adrian Sutil has shown how young drivers can challenge more experianced racers (Christijan Albers was constantly beaten by Sutil). So Markus could up his game and F1 experiance is invaluable for a driver like him.
M. Winkelhock snr also raced for smaller teams e.g. RAM but that didn't slow him down did it?

| complain about this comment

posted Jul 19, 2007

Yes, Manfred was his father, and Joe is his uncle, they were brothers

| complain about this comment

posted Jul 19, 2007

Sorry a bit off-topic. But did anyone see a BBC morning news last week about a McLaren driving in the dark? My pal doesn't believe me and I need some more information. Thanks.

| complain about this comment

Page 1 of 1

HINTS & TIPS

Deleting comments

You are in charge of your own space - if you see an offensive comment, you can delete it

Reasonable debate is allowed - please don't delete a comment just because you don't agree with it

If you are not sure, or feel a comment warrants further attention, you can refer it to a moderator instead