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Beckham backs England

posted Mar 30, 2007

Beckham indispensible to Sven because Beckham covered uncomfortable truth that England have no quality strikers beyond Owen (injured, lost pace) and Rooney (petulant, red card waiting to happen). Hence, last World Cup, striking force consists of an awkward beanpole and a twelve year old. All World Cup goals come via Beckham. Removing Beckham exposes this problem. Sven got impressive results given the material he had to work with (compare & contrast with Kevin Keegan's achievement with the same players). Beckham may be irritating - but he's the one world class player England have produced in thirty years (K Keegan being the last player I recall actually scaring opponents, c.1980)

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posted Mar 30, 2007

Yes!

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posted Mar 30, 2007

Yes, he may not have the legs anymore, but our final ball was totally rubbish against Andorra. He also has the heart and drive of the English game and is passionate about playing for his country. He is a born leader, another thing we are lacking at the moment.

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comment by sfuller (U7947217)

posted Mar 30, 2007

a post above is bitching about beckham going to USA 'selling himself out'.... you saying you wouldnt go fot that amount of money?. He has played at two of he top teams for his entire career and now is moving on to a new challenge, why do people always slag him off...

he is a quality player that should be in the england team

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posted Mar 30, 2007

"a post above is bitching about beckham going to USA 'selling himself out'.... you saying you wouldnt go fot that amount of money?."

If I was already one of the two or three highest earning players in the world - which he is - then no, I would not.

"He has played at two of he top teams for his entire career and now is moving on to a new challenge"

Hey, if he can convert Americans to his sport, I'll take my hat off to him. But wouldn't it have been more fitting for the world's most famous footballer (except, maybe, for Ronaldhino) to end his career with the team he supported as a child?

I haven't seen any Major League Soccer so cannot comment on its quality.

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posted Mar 30, 2007

As usual the press fall back on the 'ghosts of England past' to try to solve the problems of the present. I agree with the previous comment that Beckham is still world class but the problem has always been (and is now) more fundemental than that. Ultimately, I feel we should stop thinking of ourselves as "the best team in the world" but go out there as underdogs with a point to prove. We (and I blame the media for this primarily) rate ourselves so highly that we forget how to play hard. England ... please place your feet back on the ground and play football!

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posted Mar 30, 2007

Keep McClaren bring back Becks thats the way to make sure you dont qualify...great...Scotland supporter

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posted Mar 30, 2007

David Beckham is still a class player and was only omitted for political reasons by Steve McLaren in the first place. He would give England a very important option of someone who can cross a ball perfectly and his free kicks speak for themselves. England are not currently showing a tremendous ability to win matches and he would give us an important alternative as he will never lose his ability to play football at a very high level.

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posted Mar 30, 2007

Yes beckham should play for england if he is on form which face it is more than can be said for others. The trouble lies in the mentality of the managers and include the FA on that front.
Howard Wilkinson hit the nail on the head the other evening by suggesting england should play like they do in the premiership with the intensity and pace the our league has. Afterall Alex ferguson now suggests that the premiership is the highest quality league in europe and who am i to argue. Well england start to blieve in their own grounding in their own domestic league and how they were brought up to play and translate that to international competition then we may see a change in Englands fortunes. But as long as we try and mimmic other nations football approach we will continue to go woefully wrong

Get someone into the management structure who has a brain!!!!!

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comment by robin00 (U7879297)

posted Mar 30, 2007

Ummmmmm its a toughy! Yes, as leadership, passing ability and all round commitment to the cause!
No, undermine the rest of time due to Press, moving backwards not forwards!!
i think the yes's have it. In the squad, great option to bring on if all not working, even if he doesnt hit the right side like he used to....2mins to go free kick just outside area.....it could be all the differnece. And he is still fit and healthy.
Hard one, but Steve Mc is not even Man enough to drop Fat Frank so he is not going to be man enough to admit Beckham back is he?!??!

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posted Mar 30, 2007

In a word YES, quality passing, and intelligent thinking made England look very good when Beckham played. smiley

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posted Mar 30, 2007

After trying to analyse what was missing from the israel game, it sprang to mind how a good becks and owen have more talent between them than this whole mediocre england team have. Im talking footballing brains, skills and creativity. Gerrard saved us against andorra, at least he can step up to that international level..sometimes. If none of the others can do this, we may as well have becks back. And rooney, concentrate on the darn game instead of haggling and maybe you might remember what playing footy for england is about.

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posted Mar 30, 2007

Can someone tell me that David Beckham is not one of the 11 best English players? because if they can they'll need a persuasive argument.
When a team has problems of good balls supplied to the strikers can we afford to leave out, arguably, the best supplier of crosses from open play, corners and free kicks in the world???? this is a no brainer McDipstick only dropped him to prove a point and show who was boss. In fact the only point he's proved is that he is not the man for the job. We've got many good managers, Coppell, Allardyce, Redknapp, Venables with proven pedigrees get one of them in NOW!!!! and BBB
Bring Back Beckham

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comment by jcoda (U1920165)

posted Mar 30, 2007

Beckham is one of those players who can be quiet for almost a whole game, but then provide a killer pass, freekick etc in order to score or set up a goal. Something England could surely have done with against Macedonia and Isreal. That is why Becks should be in the England squad when fit.

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posted Mar 30, 2007

David(Brand)Beckham?...!!as an england supporter and patriot I cannot see why people are calling for a Beckham return,this player gets more attention and mention when he is not playing than those who are,what are we to achieve from a player that in his last two years in an England shirt was so dismal that we were all calling for him to be removed,even his so called feted friends at the tabloid offices and Television found reasons to justify their change of heart against the man they sucked up to for so many years,now we are led to believe that they want us to want him back..nice touch from the agents and beckhams media circus,what next a massive tribute to the player reaching his 100th cap that he so craves as this would add more to their coffers,let me say how much I admire Beckham,outstanding good looks,model material(academies are good)he has always been good at knowing what keeps him in the public eye,although his career has seen a mix of good and not so good performances,praise by the media continued when at times he should have been questioned,we should however be grateful as he brought with him and never deviated throughout his career,the free kick ,the corner and the penalty,running at players ,pace,tackling,heading the ball and using his left foot has never been his strong point,in fact he made the dead ball senario his own speciality and became a master at it ..people said he could pinpoint players within the box with one single pass,however I have often found that the receiving players had a slight hand in meeting the pass in the box rather than wait for it to land at them as suggested,never in the history of English football has a player with these limited qualities been praised as a world class player by the media who with their bulging eyes made an icon out of him,the truth is Beckham is more famous for his brand name outside Football and for being sold by Ferguson, although the reasons still remain a mystery to some fans who are callin for his return.
Mr Beckham has sucessfully enlisted as friends A list celebrities to help maintain the social status that has become his trade mark, I can and will only muster fond memories of this inflated player the media created through his exploitation of them and made a complete fortune out of it...Good luck America and good luck David,however you dont need it as media friends are already on board.

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posted Mar 30, 2007

Alf Ramsey didn't pick his best players he picked his best team.

The simple truth is that Sven got the best out of what he had at his disposal. As a previous poster points out, he used Beckham and a beanpole, because Owen's injury ruled him out of getting onto Gerrard's through balls, a tactic used when demolishing Germany in the 5-1.

I think McClaren is a top coach but I can't work out his tactical variations.

Beckham would be in my squad and would come on in place of Hargreaves, alongside Gerrard, when we needed to force a game.

As i've said previously though, Englands woes are more as a result of Rooney looking extremely jaded and not having an Owen/Shearer-esque centre forward.

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posted Mar 30, 2007

Lewis

Thank you for taking the time and effort to respond to my point.

With regard to the people contributing to the thread, I suspect that this has much to do with people reading a main story and seeing there is a discussion about it. I would imagine that threads that are not on the main stories (and can only be reached by going deeper into the 606 part of this website) have many less contributors.

In as much as an ex-captains thoughts, surely this is only a story if he contradicts the status quo rather than merely backs them. I mean, if he still wants to be part of the setup he is hardly likely to be disparaging.

Finally, it is ironic that you have that parasite Max Clifford commenting on where McClaren has gone wrong (who do the press think they are - give a bun and they'll be nice - I mean what is that) and then print words from Beckham that are really suspect are all scripted to help cultivate his cash generating image anyway. Can we have some real people with real stories a bit further up the agenda please?

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comment by Tony_D (U6069886)

posted Mar 30, 2007

Like most English players Beckham is too heavily reliant on the players around him. He may be the best crosser and the best striker of a ball in the game but he needs others to create the space and time for him to do it.

At Man Utd that was exactly what he got courtesy of Keane, Scholes, Giggs and endless overlapping runs from Gary Neville. They made him look good. Since leaving Man Utd he's show the occasional flash but that's about it.

IF Beckham returns then the team would have to be structured to create time a space for him to play. For all his crossing ability he's too easy to mark out of a game.

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posted Mar 30, 2007

I've read a lot of these comment's of which a few criticize Beckham's World Cup campaign and I understand that. However with Beckham there's more, he brings something to the team that is lacking from any other England player. Lampard for example for Chelsea is one of the world's best players. Bring in into England and hes a different player, his hearts not in it. Beckham has a presence on the field that everyone looks up to. They can see the passion in his eyes and it fires them up! In my opinion McClaren and others were to quick to write him off.

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comment by Viskahn (U4394100)

posted Mar 30, 2007

At Man Utd, Beckham was a one trick pony. He had his free kicks and crosses, and that was it.
After his move to Real i always felt Beckham expanded his game much more, he was able to run with the ball and take players on much better, and sometimes even tackle, which has never been his strong suit.

I think that for England, Beckham would be a useful addition to the squad for tournaments such as euro 2008 (ie the finals). Having a brilliant dead ball kicker available can give a team a lot of diversity - he and Lennon can both play on the right and perform entirely different functions when the situation demands. However, it isnt worth calling him over from America just for one or two games, when he might not (shouldnt) be guaranteed to play the full 90/180 minutes.

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