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In praise of Carlos Tevez

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Tevez's celebration was genius - 'evil' genius some might say!

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Tevez is a class player. He really looks out of place at West Ham.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Tevez even had a hand - shades of Maradona in 1986 here - in West Ham's controversial winner.
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A bit overboard, I think. Tevez is no Maradonna and he doesn't have the skills that some claim. BUT. He's a great player to have in your side and if WH can keep him next year they have a good chance to bounce back up.
It's a shame that some of the home grown "stars" don't have his enthusiasm and attitude.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Well, the last paragraph certainly provides genius insight into the key to survival - subconsciously affect the linesman & you're laughing!

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posted Mar 18, 2007

well tevez use to be a world class player and then he comes to west ham i didnt think he performed well until west ham played spurs he was amazing in that game but spurs had enough to win it. curbs can make him a great player but that will take time and the fans will need to get off his back he is already showing signs of great improvement i would welcome him at spurs because he is very very good. him and ashton upfront for you and you will do very well.

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comment by U5642312

posted Mar 18, 2007

Controversal or not, we haven't had any luck this year and was long overdue. Tevez kept chasing down and so did Zamora, so when you have players doing that I think you create your own luck! Than's not going to happen when you have players like Harewood scratching his Ar$e or getting in everbody's way! <smiley>

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posted Mar 18, 2007

I'd have him at Wednesday ;)

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posted Mar 18, 2007

it's <<el mano>> not <<la mano>>

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Tevez (pronounced Tebez) is a true bright spark in West Ham's horrific season. Maybe if Mascherano had been given the chance instead of the highly over-rated pre-Madonna Reo-Coker then they may not be in the position they currently find themselves. Tevez has shown true grit, determination and adaptability. He has put to shame the rest of the squad. The ins and outs of his transfer from Corinthians sour the taste in one's mouth but that is not the player's fault. He is a true genius.

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comment by U7054648

posted Mar 18, 2007

i like Tevez but Crespo is over 10 years older then him and stilll scores more but wastes cahnces

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posted Mar 18, 2007

If the refs assistant thought the ball was over the line then how could Tevez be offside he was not on the field of play

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posted Mar 18, 2007

please dont go Carlos we need you!!

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Carlos tevez is an amzing player to watch. If West Ham go down this season he will dfinately be going. Although i wouldnt mind watching him running rings around those championship teams

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posted Mar 18, 2007

If he was 'IN the goal, over the line', how come he did in fact stop the ball going over the line?

Getting a lucky break is one thing, trying to protest that it was actually a legitimate goal is another entirely.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

homo bono:

It's actually la mano. Some words that end in "o" carry the feminine pronoun.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

couldn't agree more. tevez and noble are the only ones who have played out of their skin this season.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

For West Ham at the moment, Tevez is the only good thing going for you. Although u got 3 points yesterday i doubt it will make a blind bit of difference in the way of staying up, especially considering 3 of your last 10 games are against Arsenal, Utd and Chelsea. Other teams around you have a much easier run in to the end of the season so its bye bye West Ham and bye bye Tevez because thers no way he'll be slogging it out in the Championship with you.

GOONERS

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Of course Crespo scores more, he is a centreforward! Tevez can create as well as score but he has never been a Batistuta or Palermo in regards to scoring goal.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

I love Tevez, I really want West Ham to stay up. I'm a Chelsea fan and I've liked the Hammers ever since Frank Lampard played for them, so I guess I kind of still like it when they win apart from when they play us. I think he should stay, after scoring his first goal the other week you could see on his face how happy he was and he showed that back to his fans (he shouldn't of got booked, he was under pressure to score and prove himself). If he believes he can help West Ham stay up maybe we will see some passion back in their last games, something they've lacked this season.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

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comment by urkey2 (U3715529)

posted Mar 18, 2007

well said schoffie <ale> harewood is a complete waste of space <grr> spends more time on his butt you get to thinking he's wiping his ass on the grass like some demented dog shuffling around on its hind legs <steam> a guy of his stature (i mean he must be about 16 stone) falls over as easy as my daughter does and shes only 2 stone hmmm <erm> still a good win non the less luck or not and the first game i think we've won with tevez playing so that ok with me <ok> , west ham still need a touch more luck and a little more <magic> from the main man, there's still a glimmer of hope guys <smiley> so lets not give up just yet <cool>

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Tevez is class. Now that we've snaffled his buddy Mascherano (who by the way has looked very good in his couple of appearances since joining us - why wasn't he played at West Ham?!), does that mean we're gonna get Tevez too when the Hammers go down???
A hopeful Liverpool fan

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comment by urkey2 (U3715529)

posted Mar 18, 2007

nice comment sparkly <ale>

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comment by U5642312

posted Mar 18, 2007

considering 3 of your last 10 games are against Arsenal, Utd and Chelsea.
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Who are you! Who are you! Who are you!

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Tevez is, was and will be fantastic. Sure he had some teething problems, but now he's sorted. He's not only a great talent, he's one of the few players at Upton Park who shows neither contempt or disregard for the people who pay to see him play. As for the transfer, if it's dodgy why wait for so long ? the League should have stopped them playing right away. Sadly it's unlikely he'll be at Upton Park next season and the dreamed of Ashton-Tevez combo, will never be seen.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

A forward who is over the goal-line is not offside....he is off the field of play. Forwards sometimes move over the goal-line to avoid being ruled offside. So if Tevez was over the goal-line albeit in goal then he wasn't offside. As the ball hit Tevez and he was off the field of play then it is rational to conclude that the ball was over the line when it hit him and was thus a goal. Until the game brings in the needed goal-line technology no-one should complain about the legitimacy of that goal as whatever the ruling is, it is the referees decision.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

He wrote LA MANO mircovich ! What's your deal?

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posted Mar 18, 2007

it's <<el mano>> not <<la mano>>

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I don't want to be pedantic, but it is "la mano". It's feminine noun, you see, even though it ends in "o".

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Looks like 3 less london derbys for us cl_l

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posted Mar 18, 2007

it's <<el mano>> not <<la mano>>

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I don't want to be pedantic, but it is "la mano". It's feminine noun, you see, even though it ends in "o".

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Oops, sorry, somebody's already pointed that out!

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comment by U5642312

posted Mar 18, 2007

If you are off the field of play then perhaps the linesman deemed that he can't interfere with play, i.e stop the ball going in! Basically saying if he wasn't there then the ball would be in the back of the net.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

It's definitely "la mano" not "el mano".

A lot of foreign players who come here are described as mercenaries and constrasted negaitively with the "plucky, homegrown English boys who just want to play for their boyhood clubs". What a load of rubbish. West Ham are going down because a load of young English players (Reo-Coker, Ferdinand, Zamora) started believing their own hype and seem more interested in playboy lifestyles than playing for the club that made them famous. Whereas the likes of Tevez and Benayoun have never stopped fighting for the Hammers.

Tabloid press, take note.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Tevez, along with Mascherano arrived in a blaze of secrecy with the car dealer who was due to buy West Ham. It seems to be the same old story with my beloved claret and blue - it all seems rather cut price and brown enveloped if you ask me. He certainly has played with passion, like no other player at Upton Park this season - but such is the nature of his arrival, will the club actually benefit from the sale of him? Whatever the outcome of this season, Curbs needs to lose some of the lads (we all know Anton's potential problems) due to lack of commitment to the cause. The rest of them just need the reality check that is potential relegation or the drop itself!

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Why hasn't Tevez started ever game for West Ham since he joined? He is clearly a world class players - West Ham wouldn't be in the position they are in now if Weat Ham had played their Argentinian cards correctly. Maybe they kept them off the field so as not to upset the rest of the "established team"? Well that "team chemistry" as we all now know was not worth preserving to say the least.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

SCHOFFIE, I think you are correct - this is the point I was alluding to in an earlier post.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

(while we're being pedantic, reo-coker is a prima donna, not a pre-Madonna... although seeing the lad in a pointy bra would be pretty damn funny... off to get a life now...)

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posted Mar 18, 2007

I like West Ham as a club: some great supporters (unlike many London clubs), always play the "right" kind of football, and have produced some tremendous players down the years. That said, i think it would be wonderful if they were to go down, as this season they have become representative of a lot which is wrong with english football: overpaid young idiots (like Ferdinand) who think that one good season and an FA cup final makes them too good to play for the club; takeovers by foreign owners, some of whom are extremely dodgy, coupled with the shadiest transfer deal in the history of ever; panic driven sacking of a really good manager, then panic driven spending in january. Contrast that with teams like Sheff Utd and Wigan: teams who have pinned their success on an actual team ethos (something West Ham used to have in buckets) rather than on their bank balance and the fact that foregin investors wanna get their hands on London real estate. I know which blueprint i think is healthier for the game as a whole.
But yeah, Tevez is wonderful, and as ludicrous as that second goal was yesterday, West Ham do deserve a bit of luck this year: they have had nothing. Mind you, if those players who played so well last year hadnt been victims of their own success, maybe they wouldn't have needed said luck (their opponents yesterday are a good example of a team who seem to get a raw deal from refs and lady luck in general, but still manage to get enough points to do well).

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Oh, dear...
Tevez wasn't over the goal-line. He stopped the ball on the line and he was offside.
Schoffie it doesn't matter whether the ref thought that the ball would've gone in if Tevez wasn't there. If the ref had stopped the ball himself or a dog had run onto the pitch and stopped it, then the goal still wouldn't stand. The ball has to actually cross the line.
The ref and linesman made a mistake. It happens. Don't try and make up excuses why the goal should stand, though. It just sounds ridiculous.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Does anyone know why Tevez hasn't started? He'd certainly do more with the chance than Harewood, who seems to have taken the crown of the ever-falling Emile Heskey. Marlon, you go over like an old lady on ice! Either sort out your boots, your attitude or just go, because you're no use to us. At least Tevez Shevchenko and Drogba all had that "getting used to the Premiership" excuse - you've already played a season! Maybe your right foot gets too much action in the Bentley?

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posted Mar 18, 2007

As a Blackburn fan who was at the game yesterday i can comment on how well Tevez played. He has a great touch and lightening pace, however a theatrical dive and his general inability to stay on his feet left me feeling frustrated and annoyed. Class player, he'd be even better if he stayed on his feet. However, too little too late for West Ham. WE'RE GOING TO WEM-B-LEY, YOU'RE GOING TO BURN-L-EY, WE'RE GOING TO WEM-B-LEY, YOU'RE GOING TO BURN-L-EY!!!

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posted Mar 18, 2007

pLEASENOTPOL:

You are mixing apples and oranges. If the ball hits an object (ref od foreign object) on the field of play - then play continues as you say. However its a different story for objects OF THE FIELD OF PLAY. If a ball hit a spectator on the sideline (off the field of play) and the ball rebounded back onto the field then the ball should be ruled to be out of play and a throwin would be the restart. In the case of the West Ham goal if Tevez was off the field of play (which was clearly the ruling) then the restart would be a kickoff.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Thank the Lord Almighty for blind linesmen. A result is a result - no-one's dead, and whilst WHU are important to me it is after all, just a game.

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comment by scarfo (U1508671)

posted Mar 18, 2007

The goal should stand because the linesman and referee thought it went in.

It's that simple.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

I don't think Schoffie was making up excuses - of course the goal should not have stood, surely noone disputes this, however Schoffie's point is quite correct that Tevez would not have been offside if he was beyond the goal line. The logic which the assistant referee seems to have used is that Tevez was beyond the goal line and therefore not offside - his error was that Tevez was not beyond the goal line so the ball did not cross the line.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

The goal WILL stand. New Subject - who would buy Reo-Coker, Harewood and Ferdinand? With Anton clearly being way behind his brother in the skills stakes, Marlon seeming to lack the ability to stay upright a key moments and Nigel only worrying about the colour of his next car or the interior walls of his new house - who would buy them?

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Tevez is fast becoming a classic player that will be cherished at the Hammers. His determination and spirit has led to the club believing they can stay up again. All they got to do, is pick themselves up too. That away win at Blackburn should've lifted their heads and got them to believe too. I'm just worried though, simply because there's no chance you can see Tevez as a Championship player; the Premiership is where he belongs. And if West Ham do go down, they are just going to have to accept that Tevez is by far the best performer at the moment, behind Christiano Ronaldo. Come on you Irons, let's stay up and make sure Tevez stays.

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posted Mar 18, 2007

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posted Mar 18, 2007

If the ball hits the ref then it's counted as hitting a post...

...which is probably a very good analogy of the averages ref's intelligence ;)

Just joking - toughest job on the pitch IMO

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posted Mar 18, 2007

Being a West Ham fan i can say that Carlos Tevez is the best thing to happen to West Ham in a long time, it would just be great if the other players can see how badly he is showing them up they might start to model their game around him.Great game against Blackburn,for once we had a bit of luck on our side and fully deserved it after the Spurs game!

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