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Mayweather v De La Hoya hots up!

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posted Feb 21, 2007

i agree a dont think ave ever been this excited for a fight n i cant believe we stil have over 2months to wait! i doubt that PBF is genuinely worried by dlh coz he appears to have a pretty high opinion of himself n i also doubt that his trashtalkin is gettin to dlh, i think as he says dlh likes to do his talkin in the ring n we'll hopefully all see his reply (maybe not to the extent of the mayorga fight but it would be nice!) i'm prayin that the absence of mayweather sr doesn't affect dlh too much which i dont believe it will but i still couldn't call a winner, i'd really like to see dlh take it but it could defo go either way.

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comment by U6939218

posted Feb 21, 2007

Must admit that i can't wait for this one. Mayweather, no surprise he's shooting his mouth off. To be fair he does normally back it up.
I for one though just hope De La Hoya Knocks him spark out. I would just like to see if he can take a punch. My feeling is that if Hoya catches him, Mayweather will be flat on his back. The question is can he?
Unforunately though i think big mouth will take it on points.
Please please, i hope i'm wrong.

Come on DE LA HOYA.

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comment by Vegas77 (U1621235)

posted Feb 21, 2007

Totally agree with you 1FEDERER.
Although we have to put up with all the rubbish Mayweather talks, he usually backs it up with a totally 1-sided performance.
But (fingers crossed) lets hope De La Hoya can get to him and who knows maybe even stop him!!
Sadly, i think Mayweather will stay away and just keep jabbing and throwing combinations from afar.
Though i'll be supporting De La Hoya, like i have done since day 1...

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comment by DJHDJH (U3307238)

posted Feb 21, 2007

But Mayweather often is able to stay away as he is taller or as tall as his opponents, he is a fair bit smaller than DLH and this will make it harder for him to work at range with the jab, although his speed is still blinding enough to get him out of trouble, but it will be harder without the reach advantage to prevent DLH getting to him for the whole fight. Oscar may get him 2 or 3 times in the fight, and he has to cause real damage there or Mayweather will come out with the points win.

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comment by Miami (U969003)

posted Feb 21, 2007

come on Oscar do this loud mouth he may be a great fighter but he is an average person.

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posted Feb 21, 2007

he may have a loud mouth but this helps sell the fight and people anticipates his fight alot more. he is the best in the buisness and the most watched. he will easily win on pionts. look wat happenend wen oscar face hopkins

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comment by BigMoon (U1681654)

posted Feb 21, 2007

PBF may have made a slight mistake in trying to wind Oscar up. Remember the last man to do that?

If Oscar can get near him (I suppose thats a big if) PBF will be sparked out.

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posted Feb 21, 2007

I share the view of virtually everybody on this site. Thought DLH was a talented pretty boy and always wondered if he could handle a "real fight". Then I saw the Vargas fight and have continued to respect him more and more as a boxer, fighter and man. Looking forward to a great fight and may the best man win and may he be Oscar. smiley

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comment by abraxis (U4691069)

posted Feb 22, 2007

I would love to see oscar beat the daylights out of PBF, but can he do it? we saw from the Mosley fights that he has problems with a fighter who is even faster than he is. On the other hand I don't think that PBF is as physically robust as mosley , particularly at light middle, so I hope Oscar can catch him early and stop him!

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comment by drjones (U1771947)

posted Feb 22, 2007

I like Oscar. He could be my friend. I hope he beats PBF. PBF should jab his chest like that.
PBF said he will do to DLH what he has done to 37 others. What has he done to 37 others. Bore them to tears.

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comment by drjones (U1771947)

posted Feb 22, 2007

But i am looking forward to this even though it might not live up to expectations. But i remember when this fight was announced i was thinking that fight is ages away. But time has passed fast and i cant believe it is only 2 weeks away now.
BTW, i meant PBF shouldnt jab DLH's chest like that. Dont make the prettier boy angry. DLH is like the incredible Hulk. You wouldnt like him when hes angry.

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posted Feb 22, 2007

Bruce, if you look at what Mayweather did to Gatti, NDou, Manfredy and Corrales (just for starters), then tell me if you think he bored them to tears. Honestly, look those fights up and tell me if you think Mayweather warrants a "boring" tag.

I know the majority here just want to see Mayweather lose because he has a big mouth and an attitude that stinks (us Brits detest arrogance, might be why we never win anything). But don't let that blind you to how good a boxer he is. Oscar is a modern great too and is likeable so he is definitely the hero of this pantomime, but boxing would be bland if everyone was a "good guy". Mayweather revels in playing the villain and it makes money. You're all going to watch, aren't you?

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comment by drjones (U1771947)

posted Feb 22, 2007

MarvinLee i agree that PBF can be exciting. But when he said what he did to 37, it was like he is saying he is something special in every matach and that wouldnt be the case. Sometimes he shows something special and other times...well.
Yep Brits dont like arrogance, especailly from americans. Brits couldnt even tolerate arrogance from Audley even though he was a brit.
And if PBF loses a few times than maybe we will like him a bit.

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posted Feb 22, 2007

Bruce, I call that the "Tiger Tim" syndrome us Brits have. Always ready to back a gallant loser (Eddie the Eagle got national hero status for coming last!) but anyone that shows a bit of swagger (Hamed, Eubank) even when successful, they get scorned on. In boxing (which is the sport of violence) I don't mind the smack talk if it's backed up. So far Mayweather's backed it up so it doesn't bother me. It makes for a more intriguing build up to have animosity before a fight rather than a mutual "love-in". It's an age-old story set up to get us to part with our cash. Remember, Superman would be just a name if he had no Lex Luthor to stop.

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posted Feb 22, 2007

invinciblebrucelee

If you have PBF fight you wont use the word bore... ODH has had so dodgy results swing his way recently especially the elimination fight to meet Hopkins.. The German gave him so serious beating but because they want ODH to fight Hopkin they gave the fight to Oscar....

I know PBF would be moving 2 division which would be very hard for Floyd because his last opponent he couldnt knock him because of the strenght of his punches, but he has the speed and movement.... I cant predict the way the fight goes but I hope it lives up to the bill....

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comment by U7563315

posted Feb 22, 2007

I think Floyd will beat him on points, i dont see no one getting knocked out.

Mayweather is hard to catch and Mayweather i think doesnt have the power to knock De la Hoya out.

I think the Trash talking by Mayweather will pay dividends, De La Hoya will try his hardest i reckon to knock Mayweather out but will get caught easily by the Pretty Boy.

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posted Feb 22, 2007

Im suprised at how many people on these boards are not predicting an easy victory for Mayweather. He is too quick for Oscar. Oscar will always have a punchers chance but I dont anticipate him landing very often.

When all the talk and glitz is over I predict a Mayweather victory on points or a late, late stoppage in favour of 'Pretty Boy'.

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posted Feb 22, 2007

You can add Frank Bruno to the plucky losers list - has there been a more popular fighter (here)?! People don't seem to mind supporting Hatton as a winner, largely because he's a humble whilst successful.

The thing that gets me about PBF is the irritating gobby attitude and bling jewellery. He deserves a slap just for that, though I fear he'll run from DLH and go for the points win, which he'll probably get. I'd like him to get in a war and see how brave he is.

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posted Feb 22, 2007

I have seen most of Golden Boy Oscar De La Hoya's (ODLH) fights and most of Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather's (PBF) fights and I have no doubt that PBF will win in a comprehensive manner be it by knockout or decisively points.

Those who are picking ODLH refer to his size advantage, power, left hook and say that he is quite fast himself. This all neglects the simple truth is that PBF is a better all round and more accomplished fighter than ODLH. Talking about PBF's speed, accuracy, defence and ring smarts are to obvious rather look at the intangibles like his unbelievable timing and ability to control and master the tempo and rythm of a fight.

A major difference is how these guys have performed at the highest when their backs were against the wall in supposed 50-50 fights. In particular look at PBF's fights against the dangerous Angel Manfredy,Justin Juuko, the unbeaten Diego Corrales, both Castillo fights the Lightweight champion, Zab Judah, Arturo Gatti and Carlos Baldomir etc and then compare these performances with ODLH against Trinidad, Felix Sturm, Bernard Hopkins, both Mosley fights, Pernell Whittaker, Ike Quartey. Furthermore as far as ODLH is concerned also view his fights with Vargas and Oba Carr and you will see the outcome of this fight.

ODLH thinks he can bully and overwhelm the smaller man and that have been trained for the last 6 years by PBF's father he knows how to defeat PBF's style. Unfortunately for ODLH while PBF's father taught PBF all he Floyd senior knows this is not the same thing as all PBF knows or for that matter PBF's trainer and Uncle Roger Mayweather know. 4 mayweathers's fought and 2 were champions, Uncle Roger Mayweather and PBF. ODLH has lost 4 times already which should at least be 7 like his guru Floyd Mayweather Senior when you consider he really lost the Ike Quartey, Pernell Whittaker and Felix Sturm fights as well though he was gifted decisions.

The difference here is between a truly great fighter for the ages and a popular fighter who is a very good fighter.

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posted Feb 22, 2007

You have have to give the edge to Mayweather for youth and speed but he is moving upto a weight he has never been before and all that smack talk is going to make sure ODLH is ready.

It will be a very interesting contest.

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comment by ted (U6576923)

posted Feb 22, 2007

I hope Mayweather beats Oscar bigtime.FLOYD the speed machine to beat Oscar easy.

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posted Feb 22, 2007

PBF v DLH is a hard fight to predict as both boxers are great fighters. I think that going up a couple of weights will take the edge off of PBF and DLH will win a close fought fight.laugh

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posted Feb 22, 2007

The last time I was this excited about a fight was Benn vs. Eubank, I really can’t wait to see it, what an event. The estranged father, the undefeated/seemingly invincible loud mouth and the comeback kid, you couldn’t write it.

I think its fair to say most of us want Del La Hoya to win, if for nothing else to shut ‘Pretty Boy’ up. He has ability in abundance, he’s mastered the shoulder role, he’s super fast and he has a mouth that’s even quicker. However, will all those years Del La Hoya spent in the gym with Mayweather Sr help him take Jr apart. I for one sincerely hope so.

I think if Oscar’s going to win he has to exploit the weaknesses that stepping up to light middleweight will create for Mayweather. Namely, size and power. If you take into account the speed and accuracy of Mayweather, trying to out jab him would be foolish. I think bearing in mind PFB’s not the most powerful and smaller, the best route toward a victory for Del La Hoya would be to aim for the KO. I think Oscar can afford to get in a little closer with Mayweather, take a little punishment himself and make sure he dishes some out. Perhaps playing on Mayweather’s arrogance is also an option, coax him, almost dare him to go toe to toe, in which case I don’t believe he could match Del La Hoya’s power.

Whatever happens come the 5th of May I’ll be beer in hand, among friends and bursting with excitement. I’ll bet I’m not alone.

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posted Feb 22, 2007

i want mayweather to win but del a hoya is alot bigge and should really be favourite. mayweather is movin up 2 weights so oscar shold really win. boxin neeeds charachters like mayweather or the sport could fade. if every 1 shook hands and fought the sport would be borin and no 1 would feel a true build up of a fight

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comment by drjones (U1771947)

posted Feb 22, 2007

DLH has probably seen enuf tapes of PBF, so i would bet has a good idea of what is neccessary against this man.
Yep i understand PBF is being arrogant to sell tickets. But sometimes i wonder why he thinks it neccessary becaose he is rich enuf and a few more tickets isnt going to make much differnece to his wealth. But i know its not as simple as that. And anyway this fight will sell no matter how PBF acts and hams it up.

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posted Feb 22, 2007

People are going overboat on the whole Floyd is like lightening thing. I think he's amazing yeah, great skills and incredibly fast. BUT.......the same weaknesses people mention about Oscar equally apply to Floyd. I think he is going to attempt to box to a points victory no doubt but I really think that De La Hoya has enough speed himself to trouble him. Judah caught Mayweather quite a bit in the early rounds of their fight. This is coupled with the certainty that Mayweather hasn't a chance in hell of knocking De La Hoya out...........MOST PEOPLE WILL READILY AGREE ON THIS. He is naturally bigger, has been in with far bigger men than Floyd and has proven that he can take practically everything they can dish out to him. De La Hoya knows this and that is why I dont think it will be the chess match everyone is going on about. De La Hoya will push him out of his comfort zone. And the difference is.........DE LA HOYA CAN KO FLOYD!!!
For the guy who said look at the Gatti and Baldomir fights...........you have got to be joking!!!!!!De La Hoya took out a prime Gatti quicker than Mayweather took out the shell of Gatti!!!!

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comment by Clem_89 (U6749026)

posted Feb 22, 2007

Cant wait for this fight!!
I have to agree with both sides of the argument here... It will either be an easy points victory for Floyd or a devastating KO for Oscar!! i will defo be up to watch this comes May 5th - lets hope Oscar does it!

Golden Boy by KO thats what i would like to see smiley

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posted Feb 23, 2007

PBF all the way, speed is such an important factor in winning fights, and PBF has shed loads of it. DLH is way past his prime, at 32, and just wont be quick enough to catch PBF.

I'd love DLH to win it would be a fantastic end to a great career, but I am sure if PBF wanted to he could just run like he chooses to against tough opponents, and pitter patter his way to a points win. If DLH can get in close, and land some hard shots, then he could KO, but PBF will be extremely determined not to loose his unbeaten record and possibly his last fight.

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comment by U7563315

posted Feb 23, 2007

Hi Guys

just wanted to know if it will be on British Television, will it be on Sky or Pay PerView?

Mayweather to win by UD.

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posted Feb 23, 2007

its a question of can DLH ko mayweather inside 12 rounds because if it goes to points no doubt mayweather would win.

c'mon Oscar smiley

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posted Feb 23, 2007

ZatKnight says

hmmmm i wonder wether bling was a cowardly way of saying you dont like him for other reasons. so i suppose when you see a guy wearing bling i bet you are one of those who thinks..oh no he might mug me....You Brits are fustrated people.

I say:

What are you on about, mush? Is this a little dig insinuating racism on Oscar's (and all British people's) part?

If it is, the irony of you accusing anyone of racism whilst you make a sweeping generalisation about an entire nation might be lost on you.

Don't be stupid. There are many reasons to despise Floyd without having to resort to racism. Even his own dad can't stand being around him. Is he racist as well?

How about Oscar doesn't like Floyd becauuse he's a woman beater who's unbearably arrogant? Those qualities are more than enough for most people to takle a dislike to someone. In fact have a think about it and see if you still think Floyd's such a great guy?

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posted Feb 23, 2007

Well said million dollar maybe. I can't stand Mayweather. That said, I don't think his arrogance will extend to going toe to toe. he'll box clever and fast like always and de la hoya, i think, will have to get him out of there or he'll lose on points. i really, really hope mayweather gets his clock cleaned and is shaken up.

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posted Feb 23, 2007

The only way DLH can win is by stalking PB and cutting off the ring isn't it?
I don't know if DLH is going to be good enough as a pressure fighter to do this, it isn't his natural technique.

Will be interesting to find out though...

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posted Feb 23, 2007

As an aside, DLH is 18-1!

Got to be worth £10 quid of anyones money and give an extra incentive to cheer him on!?

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posted Feb 23, 2007

Mayweather is doing the talk now because after fight night he will be eating a bit of humble!

It really doesn’t matter how fast he is, he doesn’t have the power to knock La Hoya out, he has gone up in weights and not necessarily increased any power, if anything it may slow him down. It’s amazing how slow you become too when you take some punishment, I don’t think he will be able to withstand a real onslaught from a naturally bigger and stronger La Hoya.

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posted Feb 23, 2007

as ive said, without charachters like mayweather boxin wil become a dyin sport with people like valuev and klitschko to entertain. also whoever said oscar can take a big punch, does any1 remember the nothin punch from hopkins on him

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comment by drjones (U1771947)

posted Feb 23, 2007

I think DLH should first see what PBF has got and try to box with him, to feel his power, speed. If it aint working just go looking hell for leather for his chin, not taking a backward step and cutting off the ring and try and be the first to knock him out. Obviously trying to protect himself as well though from a Sprott against Audley punch.

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comment by drjones (U1771947)

posted Feb 23, 2007

And hit him to the body as well. DLH has fast hands and i think he should really go for the body becoz it dont move like his chin. PBF will try and protect his chin so much because he feels DLH can hurt him, so his body is there for the taking.

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posted Feb 23, 2007

Member 75 - Cant believe DLH's 18-1, i'm definatley having a bit on him.

I made the point earlier as many others have that DLH can KO PBF whereas PBF KO'ing Oscar is very unlikely. The more i think about it the more i believe Del La Hoya can win this. He's no mug and he knows out pointing PBF is a waste of time so he'll have to go for the KO. This being said PBF's going to find himself under alot of pressure at a new weight against arguably his best opponent. Cannot wait!!

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posted Feb 23, 2007

Yeah very cowardly mate! If you're insinuating a racist slur on my part you should know where I live most kids under 16, regardless of colour, wear bling! No need to be so sensitive.

Your Marbella flat is probably safe, it'd be a shame to give up nights out at 'Pangeas' after all.

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posted Feb 23, 2007

can we get this stupid racism talk off this post. we are talkin about boxin.

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posted Feb 23, 2007

Desparate to see Mayweather beaten!

De La Hoya is trading around 7-4 / 2-1. Whoever's offering 18-1 must have many friends!

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posted Feb 23, 2007

OOPS! Read it wrong, thats for the draw!

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posted Feb 23, 2007

it make me laugh wen people say oscar can take a punch better the pbf. do we forget hopkins v the golden boy. he went down from a nothin punch really. wen he ges into these big fights he loses, remember the mosely fight any 1. mayweather punch power won't b much to oscar but wen he gets hit so many times with them it will take its tole on him

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posted Feb 23, 2007

More to the point what on earth was Mayweather wearing in that press conference! Anyone who says that Hopkins punch was a nothing punch is talking nonsense. That is probably the most painful area - notwithstanding below the belt punches - to get hit as a boxer.

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posted Feb 26, 2007

I think Mayweather needs to shutup. He's talented but far too arrogant. He's clearly going to underestimate the ability of ODLH. ODLH seems to relish being trash talked, as it build up inside him until he can let his actions in the ring do the talking. This was clear in his last bout, and come May 5th i'll be putting my money on a points victory to the golden boy.

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posted Feb 27, 2007

I spent the weekend watching old Mayweather fights; Castillo, Corrales, Judah, and a couple of others. And I am more convinced than ever that De La Hoya will win this. Mayweather doesn't start well. Mayweather is moving up too far. I don't think Mayweather copes will with southpaws. I don't think he covers his body well. And I don't think he will be able to take De La Hoya's power. Remember this guy was a Super-Featherweight not so long ago. Great fighter though he is, and his speed is phenomenal, I think De La Hoya will win by KO, quite early.

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