posted Nov 19, 2006

Hmmmm.

Its not looking too good is it really for Brentford?

The critical point of survival in any sport is winning matches and picking up points, but to not get a win in 16 attempts is pretty much relegation form.

I personally hope Brentford manage to appoint a manager who is capable of saving them this season, but it is a big ask and don't really know who'd want to take on this job.

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posted Nov 19, 2006

The truth is we are not good enough as a team. I'm not sure how much difference a new man will make but a change had to made.

The club is living off a realistic budget this year but that still means we will make a loss.

It seems to me that we may have to accept relegation if we want to be a fans owned club.

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posted Nov 19, 2006

I was really hoping Leroy could pull it off. He said all the right things and seemed to know where things were going wrong, but he just couldnt translate that onto the pitch.. Perhaps it's just too big an ask to get players to start playing football when they've just been hoofing it for the last few years?

There are certainly players in the squad who are good enough and with a decent manager and a bit of organisation we can turn it round. We desperately need to bring in some central midfielders though and try and ship a couple out in order to do that... Good luck Leroy, you're a good man and I'm sure it'll work out for you somewhere else..

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posted Nov 19, 2006

As a Wycombe fan I am hoping that my lot get promoted to League One this season and hope also that your team stays up as we do enjoy the trip to G.P. and the pre-match pint in the New Inn.

Suggestion for your new boss - a certain Mr Dowie?

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posted Nov 19, 2006

B and T , you could not resist having a dig could you. The thing despite that run we are only 1 point away for safety at the moment. We still have a lot of time to change things around and there is a lot of the season left. I think GarethBee sums it up well by highlighting the legacy that Allen and the board left Leroy.

4 -5 none also makes some good points, i think trying to play football in this league, unless you have the best talented players available is tough as teams like Oldham just kill off the skill factor. You need to match them with passion, desire and strength if you are going to get results. Cheltenham away is now crucial, a real 6 pointer and a key encouter for Fitz to start with. Certainly relegation will probably kill the club off as we said at the end of last season. Our prophecy at that time is unfortunately becoming reality. We have to stay up to survive, they will stay with Fitz as we do not have the money to pay for another manager, especially if the club ended the contract as has now been stated and Leroy has not resigned as orginially reported.

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posted Nov 19, 2006

I agree with 4-5-none leroy is not a bad manager just his style of play has not suited the players or the league, i think though a change was needed this club needs to stay in league 1 to generate money and leroy leaving may bring some of the fans lost in recent games.
But we now need a manager with good contacts in the game to get some players who can assist some of them playing on a saturday ,the likes of Bob booker ,Brian little ,maybe even Ray wilkins at an even bigger ask Glenn hoddle or Iain dowie but we need someone who can come in and steady the ship before it sinks to league 2 but who is really gonna want this job.

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posted Nov 19, 2006

I actually blame the Brentford board for this. Last season we had a great chance of going up with a decent squad and a good manager. What did they do sell DJ to Birmingham at a time when he could have seen us through. The club just could not resist the offer. If we had made promotion the club would have benifited so much more financially. Kept the squad and the manager and as Martin Allen used to say "Onwards & Upwards". There is just no future for this club while it is in the hands of the current board. I don't think they have a clue. Leroy god bless him is just not up to it. But don't worry all you Bees fans the board are now working on plan B !!!

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posted Nov 19, 2006

** B and T , you could not resist having a dig could you. **

Hardly having a dig Randy, I can sympathise with your teams plight, but Brentford is now a team currently in freefall and without a manager.

It's interesting that you mention "teams like Oldham just kill off the skill factor" , also only two weeks ago though you were labelling Oldham as "Mid table dross".

I think the current table tells the true tale though doesn't it?

You yourself also admitted that Brentford are dreadful at the minute, so please tell me, where are you going to pick up any type of form without any battleplan?

For the record, I personally hope that Brentford aren't relegated this season, I hope somebody comes in to steady your sinking ship.

Go on Randy, admit it, you'd rather be a 'mid table dross' team rather than one in turmoil.

Keep the faith.

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posted Nov 19, 2006

It was a great relief to read the news on the BBC that Leroy has parted company with Brentford (however this came about). I was discussing this possibility with my neighbour who is a Charlton man - he thought their manager would go first! We won that one. Seriously, if plan B does indeed exist one would assume that potential new managers have already been sounded out, and that an appointment will be soon. Will the new manager have any funds to do the necessary? Or did the money raised from player sales go towards the debts?

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posted Nov 19, 2006

Sorry to see the plight of the Bees this season.
It's well documented what a certain manager did for us Trees last season (and really the season before when we were relegated).
Players need encpargaement and leadership as well as the tactical insight into playing the next team.
Our ginger manager just stressed the players and didn't allow them to play their game. Once he left the caretakers just spent time supporting the team in playing with passion and belief.
As has been said; commitment, hard work and passion can make up for sophistication and skill. Lets face it this league isn't the Premiership with the inflated egos and paypackets. But it is football and the fans of the various teams should expect the team to try and play.
Yeah, and your right in that relegation isn't anywhere near - in this league stuff aint going to be settled until end of April if not May.

Good Luck.

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posted Nov 19, 2006

If Brentford go down and then into receivership I would put the blame firmly on the play-off system that prevented them from going up to the Championship last season.

I know all the arguments in favour of the play-offs - that they keep the interest alive for more clubs at the end of the season, generate much-needed extra cash, etc, etc - but the fact is that with so many clubs like Brentford only managing to survive from week to week by the skin of their teeth, it's just unfair that a team that ends up in third place because of the results it's turned in over the length of an entire season should then have it all taken away and have to start a four-team knock-out competition without any sort of advantage over the other three.

The play-offs are too much of a lottery in this day and age, when being promoted or not can literally mean the life or death of a club.

How different would life for Brentford be today if they'd won that one match at home to Swansea and then gone on to beat Barnsley in Cardiff?

I feel sorry for Rosenior. He's just the scapegoat for all the ills that have befallen Brentford since that play-off failure, and I'd be very surprised if the club ends up with anyone who's any better than he was.

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posted Nov 19, 2006

Got to agree with B&T on this one. Depsite Allen's 'flag' antics last season, I don't mind Brentford or their fans, and I hope they survive.

The fans I've spoken to on here and other boards are loyal, die-hard fans like many of us down in League 1. Hopefully a new manager will give you that push you need to survive.

Greg Dyke? Thought he was loaded?

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posted Nov 19, 2006

I do feel sorry for Leroy. He IS a really nice bloke, but not the right man to manage Brentford Football Club.

This picture does make me feel quite sadhttp://www.farnhambee.co.uk/index.php?m=20061118&p=17

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posted Nov 20, 2006

I have been a Brentford supporter for over 50 years and its the same old story we just cannot score goals! All the players who could score have been immediately sold to other clubs. Debt is a terrible thing! Oh to be able to bring back Francis, Towers, Heath, and Rainford.

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posted Nov 20, 2006

Some insider news - I had lunch in the bar of the crown plaza hotel leeds last tuesday and Kevin Blackwell was at the next table talking to someone who sounded like his agent or business manager. They were talking about where the job opportunities were coming up - Dowie had just been sacked but the other guy knew it was already in the bag for Les Reed - sure enough he got it on a permanent contract. All the talk was Leyton Orient and Brentford. The inside bet: Kevin Blackwell for Brentford. You heard it here first...

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posted Nov 20, 2006

Leroys a decent manager, some odd decisions but i'd rather have him back at plainmoor than ian atkins, or kevin blackwell. I think one bad buy (constantine) at Torquay let him down left him with nothing to play with. If Brentford end up with Blackwell you'll be adrift rock bottom by January

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posted Nov 20, 2006

When I found out the news that Rosenior had gone it made my weekend. How someone with such a poor record at Torquay last season could even have been a candidate to succeed Martin Allen is beyond me. We finished 3rd last season and should have gone up and are now staring relegation in the face. The one good thing to come out of this is that there is still plenty of time for us to be saved!! Onwards and Upwards!!

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posted Nov 21, 2006

B and T
I still think you are mid table dross and a defeat at Huddersfield will send you back in that direction, don't you worry. Of course we would rather be mid table dross ourselves. Our hope of digging ourselves out of this mess is that we get a bit of confidence and passion back as we wont be able to bring in any new players to change the nature of the squad. I doubt this will work to great effect but might just sneak us out of the bottom four. Glad you know you are concerned about us.

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posted Nov 21, 2006

Blackwell, now I really am depressed. Obviously it depends how Fitz gets on as to whether they keep him on. I know they have advertsised for the manager's job but doubt we have any real money to get someone of any real pedigree.

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posted Nov 21, 2006

We can have all the determination and confidence a team can have, but what if the team we are up against also has that confidence. I just don't think the side is good enough. Just look back and you must realise this is the fault of the board. I am not a fan of Leroy but he didn't stand a chance. Don't worry about the club, "we can't stand in the way of the player to better himself". What Crap! It's money! Apparently plan B is, get rid of the New road stand and build more flats.

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