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Harry shouldn't face FA Charge!

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posted Nov 1, 2010


What is your problem.....

If Harry is innocent then he'll be cleared of all charges....simples dear boy simples !!

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posted Nov 1, 2010

5) Why did Clattenburg shoo away the Spurs players yet allow Ferdinand to stand there

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comment by Joe (U14448818)

posted Nov 1, 2010

Harry will get charged for suggesting the officials attempted to 'cover up' their mistake, not for making the wrong decision.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

5) Why did Clattenburg shoo away the Spurs players yet allow Ferdinand to stand there

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Oh I get it now.....thats why Harry is facing charges right ?????

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posted Nov 1, 2010

5) Why did Clattenburg shoo away the Spurs players yet allow Ferdinand to stand there

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Oh I get it now.....thats why Harry is facing charges right ?????

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Answer the question.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

Wouldnt we still have won 1-0? Apart from the VDV strike you didnt really get close to our goal. Your record against the 'top 4' speaks for itself - you should really look at yourselves before anyone else. Keane and Jenas starting?? What do you expect?

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posted Nov 1, 2010

Answer the question.

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Be happy to once you explain what it has to do with Harry R facing charges....which I gather is what this article is about....

Be happy to expand the debate....but first things first theres a good chap....

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posted Nov 1, 2010

comment by English (U14621373)
posted 2 Minutes Ago

hahah typical dumb spuds ..always whining cause they to stupid to understand the rules, yes it was a disgrace, worse still are the morons defending it, but the whistle had not gone, it was a the spuds to blame for being idiots and man u to blame for always cheating.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

shatners,

You seem to be missing the point of the article (and with it our comments on the other 1,352 threads about the subject)

We are not talking about the performance, result, etc. We are on about YET ANOTHER dubious decision at OT by blithering idiots who are scared of getting a backlash from Fergie.

The fact that we probably would have lost is by-the-by!

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posted Nov 1, 2010

It is obvious old bean. Harry will face an FA rap because he dared to question a bad ref's decision at OT.

No one should EVER do that. Especially with 'Sir' in the next dug out.

Come on Harry. Tut Tut.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

comment by Harry Redknapp and the Philosophers Moan (U14125404)
posted 4 Minutes Ago

5) Why did Clattenburg shoo away the Spurs players yet allow Ferdinand to stand there

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Oh I get it now.....thats why Harry is facing charges right ?????

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Answer the question.

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because the rules quite clearly state, that the what Harry said was not allowed which he was quite well aware of, you may not make any comment about the ref honesty in anyway what so ever, if you as a manger have a problem then report it the the correct channels, or we will be having kangaroo courts like this one all over the place ...


There your question is answered not shut up you plank!!!

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posted Nov 1, 2010

1. It should have been a penalty.
2. Gomes put the ball down 10 yards ahead of the incident so clearly didnt think it was a free kick, and if he did he was cheating by trying to gain an advantage.
3. The referee didnt blow for a free kick, so play on.
4. The linesman didnt flag until after Nani put the ball in the net - the linesman has to flag at the time the incident occurs.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

There your question is answered not shut up you plank
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laugh Sorry, I know you shouldnt laugh at someone who is backward, but........laugh

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posted Nov 1, 2010

5. If the 'ref' didn't give a penalty, he should have booked Nani for diving!


But it's not like ManU players ever get decisions going against them at OT is it?

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posted Nov 1, 2010

Utd fans don't seem to get this - we were cheated. Irrespective of what else happened in the match the incompetence of the referee has cost us a goal. What do you expect us and HR to do - roll over?

This is a multi billion pound industry and supposedly one of our finest referees has made a total mess of a fairly simple situation - the "goal" should have been disallowed and free kick given - a 10 year old could tell you that.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

As an Aston Villa supporter I have great sympathy with Spurs manager Harry Redknapp over this shameful affair. Apart from anything else, Nani came from an offside position to kick the ball into the net, meaning no goal. I just wonder what would happen if Mr. Redknapp refused to pay any fine imposed, or refused to obey any touchline ban. I bet 18 other managers would back him.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

must be second nature to you, I'm sure you do it every morning in the mirror, typical spud always running off at the mouth while being run off the pitch.
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laugh utter, utter mug laugh

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posted Nov 1, 2010

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posted Nov 1, 2010

comment by Shatners Bassoon (U1878982)

posted 2 Minutes Ago

1. It should have been a penalty.
2. Gomes put the ball down 10 yards ahead of the incident so clearly didnt think it was a free kick, and if he did he was cheating by trying to gain an advantage.
3. The referee didnt blow for a free kick, so play on.
4. The linesman didnt flag until after Nani put the ball in the net - the linesman has to flag at the time the incident occurs.

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1. It was a dive or very minimal contact. So no penalty.

2. Putting it 10 yds ahead means nothing, Everton put it 20 yds ahead on a free kick once!

3. A player should play to the whistle, but Mr. Clatternbeg claimed it was advantage, the signal for advantage WAS NOT used (Law 5).

4. Law 5 clearly states that the referee can change a decision as long as play has not been restarted. As I understand it, the assistant raised his flag to get the attention of the referee, not to signal offside.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

comment by Shatners Bassoon (U1878982)
posted 10 Minutes Ago

1. It should have been a penalty.
2. Gomes put the ball down 10 yards ahead of the incident so clearly didnt think it was a free kick, and if he did he was cheating by trying to gain an advantage.
3. The referee didnt blow for a free kick, so play on.
4. The linesman didnt flag until after Nani put the ball in the net - the linesman has to flag at the time the incident occurs.

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1) If you think that was a penalty you need your eyes tested.

2) Why would he put it down if he didn't think it was a free kick doh

3) The referee didn't indicate play on, so why assume it's play on?

4) The linesman caved in under the pressure and showed he can't handle the big games clearly.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

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posted Nov 1, 2010

1) It's Man U
2) It's at Old Trafford
3) It's Man U.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

RED LEGION (U7782461)

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Before the referee gaffe, Spurs were still in the game and getting good chances. The goal that was scored was only from a result of non-existent man marking, probably something the Spurs players will be practicing today in training.

One goal in a game is nothing, a team can always eqaulise, as I tell my players when we are one-nil down: it takes one second to score a goal and we will get chances.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

CLF - But be fair when Manyoo are 1-0 up at OT thats normally the end of it one way or another by foul means or fair and so it turned out. If they aren't 1-0 up the ref plays on until they are and then blows.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

don't understand the 'you lost anyway' argument...

with anything in life, if something changes, the following actions and reactions will also change.

for example, if uniteds first goal had been saved, that doesn't mean it would have been 0-0 for the next 60 mins, they could well have scored 4, or conceded... as everything would change.

If Nani's goal had been chalked off, we could well have equalized in the next 10 mins. Or united could have scored another or any number of things.

I'm not saying we lost because of the decision, bt theres nothing to say if the ref had got it right that we couldn't havce got something from the game.



Not only that but mentally it finished us off... whereas we may have really put pressure on at 1-0.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

blantant penalty anyway, so it shouldnt of got as far as the nani goal.

If my memory serves me correctly you're not allowed to pull someones shirt in the area or grab hold of them.

We were the better side anyway, spurs werent nothing special apart from modric and van der vart, they never looked liek scoring especially in the 2nd half, we always looked dangerous.

Go hom and take your bitter pills, it pathetic, just becuase its Man Utd it must be a conspiracy.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

comment by feetofmagic (U11159061)

posted 3 Minutes Ago

blantant penalty anyway, so it shouldnt of got as far as the nani goal.

If my memory serves me correctly you're not allowed to pull someones shirt in the area or grab hold of them.

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So the penalty gets dismissed, and Gomes clears the ball upfield and we scored from it - you'd accept that as the correct decision would you?

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posted Nov 1, 2010

Come on Spurs fans.....when did the Linesman raise his flag for handball? ????
You all know the answer but can’t bare the facts.
Gomes failed to play to the whistle and got punished; these are the facts and are undisputed

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posted Nov 1, 2010

The Laws of the Game are quite clear:

Law 5 - "The Referee...allows play to continue when the team against which an offence has been committed will benefit from such an advantage and penalises the original offence if the anticipated advantage does not ensue at that time"
and

"The referee may play advantage whenever an infringement or offence occurs.
The referee should consider the following circumstances in deciding whether to apply the advantage or stop play:
• the severity of the offence: if the infringement warrants an expulsion, the referee must stop play and send off the player unless there is a subsequent opportunity to score a goal
• the position where the offence was committed: the closer to the
opponent’s goal, the more effective it can be
• the chances of an immediate, promising attack
• the atmosphere of the match
The decision to penalise the original offence must be taken within a few seconds.
If the offence warrants a caution, it must be issued at the next stoppage.
However, unless there is a clear advantage, it is recommended that the referee stops play and cautions the player immediately. If the caution is NOT issued at the next stoppage, it cannot be shown later."

So I reckon the ref should not have even played advantage as he should have cautioned Nani for deliberate handball and in any case should definitely have gone back for the handball when no advantage ensued in a few seconds.

Doesn't exonerate Gomes for not playing to the whistle though.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

comment by Creamfresh (U4424454)

posted 4 Minutes Ago

Come on Spurs fans.....when did the Linesman raise his flag for handball? ????
You all know the answer but can’t bare the facts.
Gomes failed to play to the whistle and got punished; these are the facts and are undisputed

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So did Nani, blatant handball. Free kick and yellow card, possibly a second because for the dive.

He raised his flag in the correct signal for an assitant referee to signal for a foul. Contrary to what has been said he did NOT signal for offside, if that was it would of been for offside on the FAR SIDE, Nani was on the NEAR SIDE.

The FACTS are in the Laws of the Game which we referees should stick to.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

Feet of magic,

Were you at the game? Becuase your description of it is very different to what I saw. Neither team looked dangerous. Both were poor. Nani was the only player for you in the second half that was attacking effectively.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

to Cechs Left Foot (U11244689)
The only time the linesman signalled for anything was after the goal and even then ONLY after Gomes runs up and complains.
Watch the replay, it really is that clear.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

Does anyone really believe this was a legitimate goal? The pomposity of the Premier League is astounding, blindly trumpeting their own infallibility regardless of actual evidence like a truculent toddler. We saw you The Premier League, we got it on video.

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comment by Ken (U7393978)

posted Nov 1, 2010

Gomes was asleep on the job. If he was so convinced it was a free kick then he had no right to put the ball down at least 10 yards ahead of where Nani handled it. I don't think Clattenburg bottled it at all - the easy decision was to let Gomes take the free kick and book Nani for kicking the ball away. Goodness knows what the linesman was doing though. He only put his flag up to be rescued when the Tottenham players were running towards him! And as for Rio - might as well just give him a whistle

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posted Nov 1, 2010

It was a Penalty
Yes nani handled it
The referee never signalled for a free kick
Clattenburg was seen clearly giving arm gestures indicating play on
Gomes moved the ball forward several yards is that an offence
Nani reacted the quickest I am certain Paul Scholes urged him to shoot
United were better than Spurs so the right result was reached
If I was Redknapp I would be pulling my keeper for not clearing the ball

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comment by Fizzoid (U6216496)

posted Nov 1, 2010

comment by bigjackearle (U13468073)

posted 2 Minutes Ago

Does anyone really believe this was a legitimate goal? The pomposity of the Premier League is astounding, blindly trumpeting their own infallibility regardless of actual evidence like a truculent toddler. We saw you The Premier League, we got it on video.
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Yes it was a legitimate goal if you get over the fact Clattenberg and the assisstant ref clearly missed a blatant handball.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

Punish the innocent, promote the guilty - it's the FA way.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

While he may not have awarded the freekick and Gomes may have taken time out from his senses. You can see that backing the goal just makes the referees and anyone associated with the game look stupid.

It would've been far better to have disallowed the goal and insisted on there being a freekick or simply holding up your hands and admitting this is wrong and won't happen again.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

lots of ABU on here all soooooooooo bitter
Fulham fans will feel justice was done, have you forgotten that goal Harry
Swings and Roundabouts

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posted Nov 1, 2010

English refs seem to be going from bad to worse. Even the guy who officated during the world cup final, gave a yellow card to a player who very frankly should have recevied a red for his 'karate kick' on a spanish player and I am certain evrybody who reads this post knows exactly which point in the world cup final that I am talking about. However this goal was certainly legitimate but the very fact a blatant hand ball was missed by the ref shows his incompetence in refering.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

The argument that you should play to the whistle is completely irrelevant. Nani clearly handled the ball and therefore it should have been a free-kick to Spurs.

The linesman only raised his flag after Gomes began to run over to him. What was going through his head? And Clattenberg didn't even see the incident. A calamity of errors.

I can't understand why people are trying to justify Nani's antics. There really is no argument in his favour.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

I'm not saying we lost because of the decision, bt theres nothing to say if the ref had got it right that we couldn't havce got something from the game.

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Spurs were a bit unlucky with the goal, if anything the referee should have made it clearer that he was playing on but you'd expect a professional goalkeeper to keep hold of the ball if he's unsure what's going on around him.

It's not the reason Spurs lost though, they lost because they created next to nothing over 90 minutes. Van Der Vaart hitting the post was the only time they came close in the whole game. United did a great job on Bale sho showed that whilst his left foot is lethal, show him onto his right and he has nothing to offer. If I was a Spurs fan i'd be questioning why Redkhapp picked Robbie Keane more than the goal, he was absolutely no threat whatsoever.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

couple of things

1. did Mark Clattenburg see the foul on Nani? Not even sure there was one! if he didn't think it was a fould then surely it becomes a dive and the handball is irrelevant? plus Nani earns a yellow for simulation.

2. as nani went down could MC see the handball? from the MOTD replay it didn't look like it, in which case the AR should have flagged.

3. Gomes picks up the ball and puts it down 10 yards from the incident, if a free kick the Ref or AR should have moved him back. (but this never happens), also if it wasn't a freekick, it should have been an indirect free kick to Man U, gomes picks up the ball, throws it to the ground and then handles it again = indirect freekick.

4. why the linesman didn't flag earlier i don't know. only after seeing 5/6 spurs players running over did he mouth i know and put his flag up.

Seems like its a complete mess. nani needs to stop throwing himself around, i don't think it was a penalty, given his reputation and previous behaviour in the game its easy to see why the ref waved that away. was gomes waiting for MC to blow whistle to start game? did MC wave his arms to say play on?

the best thing to happen would be for MC to come out and explain his decision. but it he does he'll be chewed to bits, irrelevant as at the moment he's getting pummelled anyway

whould spurs have got an equaliser? would manu have got another goal? who knows.

Move on

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