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Martin Kaymer- Something special..

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comment by Redrage (U1710671)

posted Oct 10, 2010

I agree, he is a special player. His putting is exceptional under pressure and that is the one skill that really separates the wheat from the chaff. There was only going to be one winner after he birdied this first today.

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posted Oct 10, 2010

He just seems to come up with the right shots at the right time. He doesn't appear to have a weakness. Solid driver nearly always on green. Very accurate pitcher and a great reader on the green.

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comment by Davie (U174955)

posted Oct 10, 2010

One of the Sky on-course reporters today (Wayne Riley??) seemed to have a man-crush on Kaymer - but the boy is indeed very good.

I can see Lee getting to No1 very soon but kaymer won't have long to wait before he takes that crown

Loved his shot to 18 from off the road. A good pro will tell you that a shot like that isn't so difficult but under the circumstances it was amazing. I would like to have to try it

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posted Oct 10, 2010

I have to say I was immensely impressed by his performance today. The putts he holed on 14 and 17 were pretty special. In the same way some people are described as 'sneaky long', Kaymer is sneaky good.

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posted Oct 10, 2010

theres no doubt kaymer is the best player in the world at the moment

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posted Oct 10, 2010

Very special player no doubt. He had a very poor RC though.

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posted Oct 10, 2010

WillyGilly- i thought that too- however he got joint second most points for Europe! Believe it or not...

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posted Oct 10, 2010

Both Westy and Poults carried him though. I like the idea of Kaymer and McIlroy in 2012

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posted Oct 10, 2010

Great swing to watch. He can putt and that's why he'll be great.

WillyGilly - whilst talented, McIlroy's swing is not good enough to sustain consistent form and he can't putt. He's come on the scene too soon. Someone needs to take him away from pro golf for a couple of seasons and coach him.

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posted Oct 11, 2010

Have to agree with the Sky Commentator. A future World #1 no question. Multiple Major winner, I can see him winning The Open next year, his low flight and distance off the tee is a recipe for Links golf success. Not just this, he is a great putter and has it all.

I think he could be the greatest European player for sometime.

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comment by BJD128 (U10603300)

posted Oct 11, 2010

Purple, you have really got to be joking when you say 'McIlroy's swing is not good enough to sustain consistent form'. Bob Torrance looked at his swing and told him that there was nothing left to improve but you dont think its good enough. As close to a perfect golf swing as there has ever been. He has flaws young Rory but the swing is not one of them.

Kaymar and Westwood will be no one and two in the world by the time the year ends. They will be playing for big ranking points in Dubai while Phil & Tiger will not be playing at all. Any sort of form will get them both there and both are only one good result short of it.

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posted Oct 11, 2010

Not sure McIlroy would have got to where he is in the rankings etc without a strong all around game, however, to me he doesn't look solid on the putting green - think he would benefit massively from improving that area of his game. After all, most of the pro's hit the ball well, the differentiator is their ability to putt.

For me, Kaymer is the best in the world at the moment with Westwood probably #2.

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posted Oct 11, 2010

Kaymer is going to be strong for many a years and can see him being top of the game for a long time, and with his game quite possibly the best equiped player for winning all the majors in his career, has the putting stroke to win a masters and long game to win the US Open and proved this week he can handle links golf to take an Open title.

Will become a great of the game

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posted Oct 11, 2010

Once mcilroy establishes a short game worthy of the very best he will decimate any field. The way he reads some putts i do wonder if he has a squint.

As for Kaymer, would be a very big surprise not to see him bag a few more majors.

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posted Oct 11, 2010

comment by backfootpunch (U9763275)
posted 14 Hours Ago

theres no doubt kaymer is the best player in the world at the moment

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Well said <ok>

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posted Oct 11, 2010

Kaymer = quality in abundance

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posted Oct 11, 2010

Kaymer seems to have that unflappable quality that true greats have. When a shot or two ahead, he always seems to get it done........compared to Poulter, Casey, Donald Westwood & McIlroy winning seems to come easier to Kaymer...........
Only a matter of time before he is World no 1

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posted Oct 11, 2010

No doubt Kaymer can be number one. It's an exciting time for European golf at the moment obviously with the win at Celtic Manor but with some of the players playing the best golf in the World right now.

If either Westwood or Kaymer got to the top of the rankings I don't think anyone could have any complaints. Kaymer has been superb recently (except the Monday in the Ryder Cup) and i agree with the other posters who say he will be there. The top 10 could very soon have a good number of players in the top 10.

It will interesting how Poulter kicks on from the Ryder Cup as he has always been a player i expected more from. Very good player but i thought a couple of years ago that by now he might of been a player being talked as as a number 1.

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posted Oct 11, 2010

For all the months of discussion and controversy about the Ryder Cup team, it just goes to show you can't really tell what the right answer is -- who could have predicted Kaymer's modest Ryder Cup based on his current form?!

Back on tour, though, he really is burning it up -- that's now 3 on the trot and I wouldn't be surprised to see him at No 1 sooner rather than later. Is it even possible that he might beat Westie there?

*reaches for calculator*

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comment by laertes (U2755025)

posted Oct 11, 2010

By my calculations, he will overtake Woods and Mickelson by year end, unless they score big points, even if he does not play. If he gets a top 2 in Valderrama, he would go ahead of Westwood too.

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posted Oct 11, 2010

Hibs,

"The top 10 could very soon have a good number of players in the top 10."

I presume you meant European players? Although, we currently have five in the top ten and eight in the top fifteen including Poulter at No 15. In my view, love him or hate him, Ian Poulter was the star man at the Ryder Cup and is arguably the best 'match play' player in the world at the moment.


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posted Oct 11, 2010

i cant believe people are questioning McIlroys putting ability, he nailed some great long putts at Celtic Manor. also, his last putt at Quail Hallow was rather special. he cant be far away from a major

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posted Oct 11, 2010

In answer to my own question above, outright 3rd at Valderama would see Kaymer go to No 1 just at the moment that Westwood gets past Woods.

I'm not sure too many Westwood fans have noticed this yet!!

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posted Oct 11, 2010

europeans 1 and 2 in the rankings then?

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comment by Redrage (U1710671)

posted Oct 11, 2010

Dado, any pro will hole long putts at some stage in a round. It is how they hole out under pressure that really separates the very best. Lee Westwood is a good putter, but in the final round he often starts missing and it has cost him a few majors over the last couple of seasons, McIlroy and Casey are the same. They are streaky putters rather than consistent the way Woods and Harrington were, they way Kaymer, Poulter and Donald putt is really impressive.

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posted Oct 11, 2010

Redrage, spot on there - i'd rate McIlroy's putting alongside Casey at the moment. Capable of moments of brilliance and inspiration but doesn't necessarily do it when he really needs to and by that i don't mean to win a tournament or match e.g. Quail Hollow or RC, but more like the 6 footers for par or bogey on a saturday afternoon when he needs to keep a round going to stay right in the thick of the tournament.

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posted Oct 11, 2010

I don't want to get into too much detail on McIlroy's swing for fear of hi-jacking the this Kaymer thread but a high draw may be pretty but it isn't the shot of a consistent pro.

Yes, Redrage, I also agree with your assessment on putting strengths.

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posted Oct 11, 2010

It's nonsense to suggest anyone can take the No1 spot from Woods. He's missed most of the the last two years, had a knee re-construction and run the gammit of a public divorce and the fact that he's still No 1 means he's still the best.

Westwood hasn't got a full game, his chipping and bunker play is ordinary and Kaymer is still not the finished product.

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posted Oct 11, 2010

McIlroy and Casey don't win enough. McIlroy seems to immature yet, Casey just too unstable.

Poulter has the right attitude, but seems to be motivated only by the big tournaments.

Westy is getting there (ie. major win, world #1), can't wait to see him overcome his injury.

Kaymer is only 25, goes low on the radar, but gets things done. Disappointment at the Ryder Cup though.

Donald surprised me positively at the RC however. If he can keep his head in the right place, he can be a factor in the year to come.

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posted Oct 12, 2010

pedro01 - are you mad?

Kaymer was a disappointment at the ryder cup... he got 2.5 points from his games (only bettered by Woods, Stricker, Donald and Poulter)

Have really liked the look of Kaymer since he broke into the top 10... and a future world number one (probably not ye, but give it 1 or 2 years)

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posted Oct 12, 2010

Kaymer could got top of the rankings with a good finish at Valderamma, which would mean westwood doesn't even get the number spot on october 31st.

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posted Oct 12, 2010

sam,
Yes, Kaymer got 2.5 points, but was still a minor disappointment. Was to a large extent carried through by Westy in the doubles, and lost his single.

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posted Oct 12, 2010

Kaymers RC record is hardly relevant anyway is it when discussing world Ranking points.

I would love to see Lee top the rankings first Englishman since sir Nick be a fantastic feat and deserved for a long consistent career.

However KAymer 4 wins this year, 3 wins in last 3 events and one of those a Major, he has accrued enough points that with a good finish at Valderamma will sneak it and no-one can say he would not deserve it for his play and wins.

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comment by Redrage (U1710671)

posted Oct 12, 2010

Unfortunately for Lee Westwood, Kaymer has impressive form at Valderamma, 6th and T2nd in two starts... and he looks very comfortable with his game just now.

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posted Oct 12, 2010

Koppite, talking out of your hole re: Woods.
Unless he undergoes a rapid return to form in the next few months his ranking is going to drop like a stone.
Both Westwood and Kaymer could be miles ahead of him by the time the new season comes around.

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posted Oct 12, 2010

its an insult to kaymer to talk about them in the same sentence..westwood is worst player in modern history if not ever to lose his head when it matters..kaymer is complete opposite kaymer has arguably being more sucessful in the last 18 months than westwood has been in his career to date or probably ever will be..westwood i think will never win anything of note he just doesnt have the head for it

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posted Oct 12, 2010

"its an insult to kaymer to talk about them in the same sentence..westwood is worst player in modern history if not ever to lose his head when it matters..kaymer is complete opposite kaymer has arguably being more sucessful in the last 18 months than westwood has been in his career to date or probably ever will be..westwood i think will never win anything of note he just doesnt have the head for it"

Your comment is an insult to the career of one of the worlds leading golfers. Lee hasnt won a major yet! But has won events world wide and is consistently one of the highest finishes in the events he competes in. and to say he is the worst player in modern history you fool is why he is so high in the rankings above 100's of other golfer who are not as good but are in your book better than him as you state he is the worst in modern history!

Is stricker one of the worst to as he is a consisten high finisher but no majors, or luke donald.

Or maybe you think Ooshuizen is leagues abouve westwood as he won the open last year but has failed to make the cut in any other major he has played in WUM

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posted Oct 12, 2010

Mav, what can you expect from someone who has "tiger" in his username.

Let's not forget that in the last 7 majors, Westwood has finished consistently higher than any other player in the world.

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posted Oct 12, 2010

tiger9991, you are an insult to this board.

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posted Oct 12, 2010

SR, i make you right, just made my blood boil a little bit there, complete fool, obviously has no interest in golf other than wanting to become one of tigers conquests no doubt

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posted Oct 12, 2010

Exactly Mav, there's been a lot of that type around lately. They have as much to do with and know as little about golf as X Factor has to do with and knows about music. E.G. None.

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posted Oct 12, 2010

Seems to be that something in the air has moved the rock that these parasites live under and they've come crawling out. Well i for one hope Westy tramples all over there Tiger is the only man alive dreams.

I'd be surprised the way the Rankings points are worked out it Tiger is even top5 by the masters.

I can see Kaymer, Lee, Stricker, Furyk and Phil occupying the top 4 spots, and mr Woods now for the first time has a real fight on his hands which is good for golf.

as for X Factor and likes of Tiger9991, back to the phone votes!

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posted Oct 12, 2010

I'm afraid its the flag waving nature of the Ryder Cup and Majors that bring these people out. Unfortunately this time lots of been sticking around. They'll get bored soon.

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posted Oct 12, 2010

It's a shame but soon they'll slope off and leave us to have intelligent conversation rather than listening to those stomping there feet like an 8 year old whose favourite toy is not as good as it was

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posted Oct 12, 2010

comment by super_realist (U4410571)
posted 1 Hour Ago

Koppite, talking out of your hole re: Woods.
Unless he undergoes a rapid return to form in the next few months his ranking is going to drop like a stone.
Both Westwood and Kaymer could be miles ahead of him by the time the new season comes around.
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The only guy in modern times who has dominated his sport as well as Woods is the dartist Taylor.

Both these people are the ultimate competitors, when the going gets tough the tough get going and whatever it takes they come up with the goods.

Westwood is a very good pro but not a champion in the manner of Woods. The game is stronger than it has ever been and Woods has sat on top of it as the ultimate competitor.

Kaymer looks to have a better all-round game than Westwood and McIlroy has the potential to go to the top But neither have shown signs of being the competitor that Woods has been. He was back to his best when he hammered Francesco in the singles and if that means he has put his troubles behind him you have to back him to see off all challenges for the foreseeable future.

Finally, if you have any doubt ask yourself, if there was a head-to-head involving Woods at his best and anyone else and you had to back one of them with all your worldly goods, who would you choose?

Not difficult is it?

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posted Oct 12, 2010

Kaymer demeanor and general ability reminds me of Goosen a few years ago when his putting ability was unquestionnably rock solid... ..until it crumbled

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posted Oct 12, 2010

Koppite,
I'm not denying Woods historical effect on the rankings and professional golf, but only a golfing luddite (or Woods sycophant) would claim that he is currently anything like the player he once was. Remind me how many tournaments he has won in 2010. That's right - NONE.
Once again I reiterate that unless he regains form rapidly he's going to lose a great deal of rankings points during 2011, and might be lucky to find himself in the top 10 come the end of next season.
You also think that because he had one good round in the Ryder Cup singles he's back to his best. How well did he play against Donald and Westwood? Absolutely pumped and played rubbish and was carried quite a lot of the way in other matches by Stricker.
One swallow doesn't make a summer Koppite and it's clear that Woods has been struggling for form for most of 2010. So it's ridiculous to say he's put his troubles behind him on the basis of one Ryder Cup singles game. Monty shot a 62 in Open qualifying this year, does that make him great and in form again? No. Stick to being a football fan because you don't understand golf.
Your closing fictitious match between Woods at his best and anyone else is a moot point, because Woods hasn't been at his best for over a year now. He might well get back to his best but until he does you cannot claim he's the best golfer in the world, it's like saying Owen is Englands best striker on the basis of his historical goal scoring record, yet his form has slumped, the simple truth which you cannot argue is that in real terms Woods has the potential to be the worlds best golfer again, but currently he isn't, despite what the rankings say.

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posted Oct 12, 2010

Yet again another Woods is the only player that can be number one post!

This frustrates me for a varying number of reasons

1. Yes he is possibly the greatest golfer to walk the earth, but The OGWR is on recent form (2years) so inlcuding this year Woods is not the CURRENT No.1 in world golf, 0 wins think on 2 top tens and then theres the missed cuts. So is he the CURRENT best player in the world NO.

2. There are other golfers out there that are playing golf deserving of WOrld No.1 status Furyk, Westwood, Kaymer to name but 3, all amassed more OGWR points than woods this year

3. Just beacuse he's your favourite doesnt make him the best in the World.

4. Im getting bored of making my point again! I do not dislike Tiger so am not having a go at the man, in fact i think he is a great player but he is not the current number 1 nor does he deserve to be just based on his history, if you are saying the world number has to be based on History then it's Jack Nicklaus but it doesnt work like that.

I think a better way of Woods fans and those that are not to look at this would be that when he is back to his best which i think he will be at some point it's going to give us something we havent had for a while and thats a fight at the tiop of the rankings much like one we had with Price/Norman/Faldo, and Duval/Woods/Singh.

Something thats been lacking for a while there'll now be Westwood/Kaymer/Woods and a couple of others so be excited if you like Tiger he can now prove himself against tougher opponents and if you dont like him you be pleased there are challengers to his crown simples

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posted Oct 12, 2010

I have been a Kaymer fan for some years now and think ha has the potential to be at the top for a long time. I was however really disapointed with his singles performance in the Ryder Cup and now with him winning only days later, does this now question his nerve?

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